Is Dave == David?
Kenmlin
I was just wondering whether these two first names
are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
a chance to ask him.
Ken
Steve MacGregor
Kenmlin <ken...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971227074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
<<I was just wondering whether these two first names are
interchangeable. This is because I had a friend named David who
signs his name Dave but I never got a chance to ask him.>>
Not quite interchangeable, but they generally refer to the same
person.
Many people -- maybe even most -- use nicknames, shortened versions
of their legal names. I am Stephen, but generally go by Steve; my
wife Patricia goes by Pattie; someone named Richard may go by Rich,
Rick, or Dick; someone named Elizabeth may go by Elsie, Liz, Beth,
Betty, Ilsa, Liza, Lizbet, Lisa, and maybe some more.
Most people named David call themselves Dave.
The legal name is used for buying houses, signing contracts, and
other legal matters, by most people. The shortened nickname is what
our friends call us, and how we introduce ourselves.
--
(Reply to SPMacGregor at NetValue dot Net)
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Robert Lipton
In article <19971227074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Kenmlin wrote:
>I was just wondering whether these two first names
>are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
>named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
>a chance to ask him.
>
The name "David" is a Bible name. It is the name of the Second King of
Israel. The name means "Beloved" in Hebrew and recent advances in
archeology and dating in the area indicate it may actually have been a
title ("Beloved of God" or a pre-Kiplingesque "Best Beloved"). "Dave"
"Davey" and, of the Welsh, "Taffy" are the most common nicknames of
people named "David". In my family, we sometimes use "Duvidl," which is
what my grandfather used to call my father.
While I cannot speak authoritatively, especially in these days when people
want to give "Unique" names to their children (1), the actual name is
invariably "David" and "Dave" the nickname.
Bob
who is astonished that his newsreader's spellchecker has "Kiplingesque"
but not "newsgroup"
(1) Old "I Love Lucy" routine. Forgive me.
Max Thomsen
On 27 Dec 1997 15:59:02 GMT, in alt.usage.english, Steve MacGregor
wrote:
>Kenmlin <ken...@aol.com> wrote in article
><19971227074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>
><<I was just wondering whether these two first names are
>interchangeable. This is because I had a friend named David who
>signs his name Dave but I never got a chance to ask him.>>
>
> Not quite interchangeable, but they generally refer to the same
>person.
> Many people -- maybe even most -- use nicknames, shortened versions
>of their legal names. I am Stephen, but generally go by Steve; my
>wife Patricia goes by Pattie; someone named Richard may go by Rich,
>Rick, or Dick; someone named Elizabeth may go by Elsie, Liz, Beth,
>Betty, Ilsa, Liza, Lizbet, Lisa, and maybe some more.
> Most people named David call themselves Dave.
> The legal name is used for buying houses, signing contracts, and
>other legal matters, by most people. The shortened nickname is what
>our friends call us, and how we introduce ourselves.
I've noticed, and surely I'm not alone, that men's names (at least in
AmE) often get chopped to one syllable:
Robert Bob, Rob
William Bill, Will
Steven Steve
Michael Mike
Gregory Greg
Edward Ed
Eugene Gene
Alan Al
Anyway, you get the picture. But if the same person is a child, then the
nickname sometimes gets a "y" tacked on at the end as a sort of
diminutive (Bobby, Billy, Stevie, Mikey, Eddy). Which leads me to my
next point.
Female names don't usually get scrunched to one syllable and often have
a "y" (or y sound), even though the person is full grown.
Katherine Kathy
Deborah Debbie
? Sally
Roberta Bobbie
? Lori
Wilhelmina Willie
OK, I faked that last one. I'm not sure what dynamic is at play here,
but perhaps we think of women as perpetually diminutive, which, in fact,
they are, relative to their physical stature vis-a-vis men. Or maybe we
think they're all Irish.
And Black AmE names are something else.
--
Max Thomsen
Daniel P. B. Smith
In article <34a64ef2...@news.networksplus.net>,
Max Thomsen <mtho...@flatiron.com> wrote:
>Robert Bob, Rob
>William Bill, Will
>Steven Steve
>Michael Mike
>Gregory Greg
>Edward Ed
>Eugene Gene
>Alan Al
>Anyway, you get the picture. But if the same person is a child, then the
>nickname sometimes gets a "y" tacked on at the end as a sort of
>diminutive (Bobby, Billy, Stevie, Mikey, Eddy). Which leads me to my
>next point.
>
>Female names don't usually get scrunched to one syllable and often have
>a "y" (or y sound), even though the person is full grown.
>
>Katherine Kathy
>Deborah Debbie
>? Sally
>Roberta Bobbie
>? Lori
>
>Perhaps we think of women as perpetually diminutive, which, in fact,
>they are, relative to their physical stature vis-a-vis men.
(Sally can be a nickname for Sarah, btw).
A little facile, I think. I would agree that the terminal -y, -i, -ie
is a diminutive. I would also agree that the "traditional" women's role
in U. S. culture has aspects of the diminutive or infantile (think of
Helen Kane baby-talking "Boop boop be doop").
It is not at all unusual for grown men to retain multisyllable names
ending in the -y, -i, -ie sound. Hockey player Bobby Orr; evangelist
Billy Graham; television commentator Andy Rooney; gangster Benny Siegel
(or Whitey Bulger, for that matter); politician Soapy Williams; cosmetics
tycoon Charlie Revson; and don't forget President Jimmy Carter, one-time
leader of the free world.
Conversely, it is not that unusual for women to have one-syllable
nicknames. Barbara can be Bobby/Bobbie/Bobbi, but also Babs or Barb.
Sarah can be Sally or Sal. Eleanor can be Elly or Nelly or Nora--or Nell.
Deborah can be Debbie or Deb. Certainly Meg and Peg are much more common
than "Margy" as a nickname for Margaret. Jennifer can be Jennie or Jen...
etc.
My daughter is named Libbie. Libbie is usually a diminutive for
Elizabeth, but my wife and I both liked Libbie and neither of us liked
the sound of "Elizabeth Smith." We figured if Libbie Henrietta Hyman
could do it, so could we. So, her birth-certificate name is "Libbie."
And her nickname is "Libs."
--
Daniel P. B. Smith
dpbs...@world.std.com
Joseph C Fineman
_Ordinarily_ a person called Dave is legally named David & is using
"Dave" as a nickname. However:
1. In the U.S., it is risky to assume that that is true, because
naming is unregulated & chaotic, and some people's legal or Christian
given names have the form of nicknames. For example, the President of
the U.S., originally William Jefferson Clinton, changed his legal name
to Bill in his youth; it would now be an error to call him "William".
Likewise, the long-time Speaker of the House, Sam Rayburn, was _never_
Samuel.
2. Many people happen to dislike one or another of the common pet
forms of their given name. If someone introduces himself to you as
David, it is courteous to address him that way until he gives you some
clue that he does not mind being called Dave.
--- Joe Fineman j...@world.std.com
||: The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but :||
||: queerer than we can suppose. :||
Cheryl L Perkins
Daniel P. B. Smith (dpbs...@world.std.com) wrote:
: >
: >Katherine Kathy
: >Deborah Debbie
Sara or Sarah: >? Sally
: >Roberta Bobbie
Laura: >? Lori
: >
: >Perhaps we think of women as perpetually diminutive, which, in fact,
: >they are, relative to their physical stature vis-a-vis men.
: (Sally can be a nickname for Sarah, btw).
: A little facile, I think. I would agree that the terminal -y, -i, -ie
: is a diminutive. I would also agree that the "traditional" women's role
: in U. S. culture has aspects of the diminutive or infantile (think of
: Helen Kane baby-talking "Boop boop be doop").
This is my experience, too.
<skip counter-argument>
I never really did that much of an analysis. My male relatives who used
nicknames like 'Bobby' dropped them as they grew up, but sure, there are
lots of prominent men who use nicknames.
: My daughter is named Libbie. Libbie is usually a diminutive for
: Elizabeth, but my wife and I both liked Libbie and neither of us liked
: the sound of "Elizabeth Smith." We figured if Libbie Henrietta Hyman
: could do it, so could we. So, her birth-certificate name is "Libbie."
You clearly haven't encountered someone (traditional minister/elderly
traditional relative) who thinks all children should have 'proper names'
regardless of what they are usually called
: And her nickname is "Libs."
My mother didn't approve of nicknames. She won out with me (Cheryl, only
rarely called Cheryl Lynne or Polly), but lost with my sib Janice (who is
only called that by blood relatives, she usually goes by 'Jan', and my sib
Pam, who decided at about junior high age that she'd had enough of being
Pammie or Pamela, thank you very much. Our brother, Edward, doesn't
shorten his name, but just try to convince new acquaintances that he's not
an Ed or Eddie!
Actually, my mother should have known she was losing in the battle against
nicknames, since a lot of my relatives have legal, on-birth-certificates
and on-legal-documents names, names they are called by relatives who have
known them since childhood, and the names they prefer to use in their
adult world.
Er, what was the thread about? A Dave? I'd think a Dave probably has a
legal name of David, but if I had some reason to want to know his legal
name, I'd ask him, because what used to be nicknames may now be legal
names.
Wasn't there a Wodehouse novel in which the plot turned on a check signed
by Mike? But he fooled the villain by signing 'Michael', when his name
was, in fact, 'Mycroft'.
Cheryl
Steve Barnard
Truly Donovan wrote:
>
> On 27 Dec 1997 07:40:05 GMT, ken...@aol.com (Kenmlin) wrote:
>
> >I was just wondering whether these two first names
> >are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
> >named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
> >a chance to ask him.
>
> interchangeable only if the person so named chooses to use both.
> Never assume that anyone named "David" would like to be addressed as
> "Dave"; similarly, it is not a safe assumption that someone called
> "Dave" is to be formally addressed as "David."
If I'm not mistaken, in Israel "David" is pronounced Da-VEED. I once
worked with an Israeli named David (Da-VEED) and I was just floored one
time when someone called him "Dave."
Steve Barnard
Aaron J. Dinkin
> If I'm not mistaken, in Israel "David" is pronounced Da-VEED. I once
> worked with an Israeli named David (Da-VEED) and I was just floored one
> time when someone called him "Dave."
I believe the Israeli nickname for "David" is in fact "Dudu". (Davida, can
you back this up? And what do they call you?)
-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
Pan
Larry Brancheau wrote in message <684nrm$8...@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>
>Kenmlin <ken...@aol.com> wrote in article
><19971227074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>> I was just wondering whether these two first names
>> are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
>> named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
>> a chance to ask him.
>>
>> Ken
>
>They can be used interchangeably if the person in question, Dave or David,
>doesn't mind. Dave is a shortened form of David.
>
Several people have mentioned that 'Dave' can be short for 'David'.
I'd like to add that some people are named 'Dave' without the
shortening.
Pan
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <68415b$f7s$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, cper...@stemnet.nf.ca
(Cheryl L Perkins) wrote:
> My mother didn't approve of nicknames. She won out with me (Cheryl, only
> rarely called Cheryl Lynne or Polly)
Polly? My goodness, where did that come from? Usually it's short for "Mary"
(for some reason), if anything.
As for nicknames in my family: I'm only Aaron, to everyone. My brother
Joseph is always Joe, except for a few cousins who persist in calling him
"Joey". My sister Gabrielle can be Gabrielle, Gabe, or Gaby, depending on
context. My mother is always Susan. And my father, whose given name is
Richard, is Dickie to people who knew him before, say, high school (I'm
guessing) and Rich to everyone else.
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <ELvCJ...@world.std.com>, j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
wrote:
> 1. In the U.S., it is risky to assume that that is true, because
> naming is unregulated & chaotic, and some people's legal or Christian
> given names have the form of nicknames. For example, the President of
> the U.S., originally William Jefferson Clinton, changed his legal name
> to Bill in his youth; it would now be an error to call him "William".
I don't believe that's true. First of all, he was originally William
Jefferson Blythe. Furthermore, if his legal first name is "Bill", no one
told any of my almanacs or the United States government, which all quite
blithely - pardon the expression - go on calling the president "William
Jefferson Clinton".
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <slrn6aa5cj...@amanda.dorsai.org>, lip...@dorsai.org
(Robert Lipton) wrote:
> While I cannot speak authoritatively, especially in these days when people
> want to give "Unique" names to their children, the actual name is
> invariably "David" and "Dave" the nickname.
I have a friend (well, friendly acquaintance whom I mildly dislike) whose
given name is Taavo, which I'm told is a Finnish nickname for "David".
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <34a64ef2...@news.networksplus.net>, mtho...@flatiron.com
(Max Thomsen) wrote:
> Female names don't usually get scrunched to one syllable and often have
> a "y" (or y sound), even though the person is full grown.
>
> Katherine Kathy
What about Kate?
> Deborah Debbie
> ? Sally
Sarah, when it's a nickname at all.
> Roberta Bobbie
> ? Lori
Lauren, but I have a feeling that it's more usually a given name itself.
> Wilhelmina Willie
Or Billie.
But that doesn't apply to all feminine names. "Katherine, as I noted,
usually becomes Kate. Alexandra and Alexander are both always "Alex" (which
can lead to all manner of confusion) - although I've met one or two Lexies
in my time. Elizabeth is frequently either Liz or Beth - more, I think,
than Lizzie or Bessie. You certainly make a very good point, however, and
I'm only citing odd examples as I think of them.
Truly Donovan
On 27 Dec 1997 07:40:05 GMT, ken...@aol.com (Kenmlin) wrote:
>I was just wondering whether these two first names
>are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
>named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
>a chance to ask him.
"Dave" is a very common nickname for "David" -- but they are
interchangeable only if the person so named chooses to use both.
Never assume that anyone named "David" would like to be addressed as
"Dave"; similarly, it is not a safe assumption that someone called
"Dave" is to be formally addressed as "David."
--
Truly Donovan
reply to truly at lunemere dot com
Truly Donovan
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:16:31 GMT, j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
wrote:
> For example, the President of
>the U.S., originally William Jefferson Clinton, changed his legal name
>to Bill in his youth; it would now be an error to call him "William".
Somebody should have told him before he got himself inaugurated as
"William Jefferson Clinton." I believe he uses both forms -- his
Christmas card was signed "Bill."
TsuiDF
Seems to me my BrE speaking female friends chop full names to nicknames
*without* the 'y' or 'ie' mentioned by the previous poster -- eg,
Melanie becomes Mel; Deborah, Deb; Katherine, Kath, and so on.
USans tend to add the 'y' thingy.
And while you're up -- a plea for calling people what they like to be
called instead of assuming the nickname is automatically all right.
Stephanie "who gets called 'Steph', 'Stephie', and 'Stevie' and only one
of them doesn't grate on my ears" M in HK
Larry Brancheau
Kenmlin <ken...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971227074...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> I was just wondering whether these two first names
> are interchangeable. This is because I had a friend
> named David who signs his name Dave but I never got
> a chance to ask him.
>
Cheryl L Perkins
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Distribution:
Aaron J. Dinkin (adi...@commschool.org) wrote:
: In article <68415b$f7s$1...@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, cper...@stemnet.nf.ca
: (Cheryl L Perkins) wrote:
: > My mother didn't approve of nicknames. She won out with me (Cheryl, only
: > rarely called Cheryl Lynne or Polly)
: Polly? My goodness, where did that come from? Usually it's short for "Mary"
: (for some reason), if anything.
From a long-ago friend. I think I discouraged it's use by throwing a fit
every time it was used.
: As for nicknames in my family: I'm only Aaron, to everyone. My brother
: Joseph is always Joe, except for a few cousins who persist in calling him
: "Joey". My sister Gabrielle can be Gabrielle, Gabe, or Gaby, depending on
: context. My mother is always Susan. And my father, whose given name is
: Richard, is Dickie to people who knew him before, say, high school (I'm
: guessing) and Rich to everyone else.
My mother is called 'Florence', not 'Ethel', largely on the same 'It's NOT
MY NAME!!' principles. She's Ethel Florence, legally. My father used to be
called 'Wes', but everyone who knew him in his late adult life called him
'Perk'. Edward Wesley Perkins, child of a man also named 'Edward', so he
needed a nickname.
One of my aunts, Mary, is called by everyone 'Maise'; another is called by
her legal name, Inez, only by those who knew her pre-leaving home.
Everyone else calls her Jody.
Cheryl
Joseph C Fineman
tru...@ibm.net (Truly Donovan) writes:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:16:31 GMT, j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
>wrote:
>> For example, the President of the U.S., originally William
>>Jefferson Clinton, changed his legal name to Bill in his youth; it
>>would now be an error to call him "William".
>Somebody should have told him before he got himself inaugurated as
>"William Jefferson Clinton." I believe he uses both forms -- his
>Christmas card was signed "Bill."
I stand corrected. I seem to have misread the entry in the 1997
_World Almanac_, which says
Bill Clinton...the son of William Blythe and Virginia Cassidy
Blythe, and was named William Jefferson Blythe IV. Blythe died in
an auto accident before his son was born. His widow married Roger
Clinton, and at age 16, William...changed his name to Bill Clinton.
This _seems_ to imply that he changed his name from William to Bill as
well as from Blythe to Clinton, but that may just be careless writing.
The 1995 _Information Please Almanac_ calls him William J. Clinton.
So I suppose that we may still call him that on formal occasions or,
within the family, to express annoyance ("William, sit up straight and
get your feet off Mr Lincoln's hassock").
--- Joe Fineman j...@world.std.com
||: Deficient contact with reality is called mania. Excessive :||
||: contact with reality is called depression. :||
Stefano Rovetta
In article <34a64ef2...@news.networksplus.net> (not present,
in my news-server) Max Thomsen <mtho...@flatiron.com> wrote:
>Katherine Kathy
>Deborah Debbie
>? Sally
For males, Sal is Salvatore (a common name in Southern Italy,
where many people came to the USA at the end of XIX century).
Could there be something similar for females too?
>Roberta Bobbie
>? Lori
I know of people called Lorenza (female for Lawrence) or Loredana
(don't know the correspoinding english name) who commonly use this
nickname. But this is again in Italy. Can anyone comment about
English-speaking countries?
--Stefano Rovetta
s...@dibe.unige.it
David McMurray
Truly Donovan wrote:
[snip]
> "Dave" is a very common nickname for "David" -- but they are
> interchangeable only if the person so named chooses to use both.
> Never assume that anyone named "David" would like to be addressed as
> "Dave"; similarly, it is not a safe assumption that someone called
> "Dave" is to be formally addressed as "David."
Well and truly put, say I redundantly.
My mother was fond of saying that the beloved child has many names.
She never called me "Dave"; when she called me "David", I knew I was in
trouble.
--
David (eliminate "hitch" to reply)
Gary Williams, Business Services Accounting
>I've noticed, and surely I'm not alone, that men's names (at least in
>AmE) often get chopped to one syllable:
>...But if the same person is a child, then the nickname sometimes gets a "y"
>tacked on at the end as a sort of diminutive...Female names don't usually get
>scrunched to one syllable and often have a "y" (or y sound), even though the
>person is full grown.
>I'm not sure what dynamic is at play here, but perhaps we think of women as
>perpetually diminutive, which, in fact, they are, relative to their physical
>stature vis-a-vis men. Or maybe we think they're all Irish.
Although I can think of exceptions to your general rule (male athletes often
keep the diminutive ending; there are some female nicknames without the
diminutive, e.g., Liz, Deb; I often hear Stephanies addressed as "Steph" and I
know a Natalie who signs informally as "Nat"), I think you are right enough
that maybe those who favor language as the vehicle for inducing correct
political thinking should lay off pronouns for a while and go after this.
Gary Williams
WILL...@AHECAS.AHEC.EDU
The Chocolate Lady
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:00:46 -0500 during the alt.usage.english
Community News Flash, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J. Dinkin)
reported:
>
> Alexandra and Alexander are both always "Alex"
No, not "always". I have found that "Sasha" is also used for both
Alexandra and Alexander. And very common it is, too.
The Chocolate Lady
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On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:12:06 -0500 during the alt.usage.english
>In article <34A5A0...@megafauna.com>, st...@megafauna.com wrote:
>
>> If I'm not mistaken, in Israel "David" is pronounced Da-VEED. I once
>> worked with an Israeli named David (Da-VEED) and I was just floored one
>> time when someone called him "Dave."
>
>I believe the Israeli nickname for "David" is in fact "Dudu". (Davida, can
>you back this up?
Yes, sir. David (Da-VEED) is often nicknamed "Dudu" here. This has
become less popular over the past 20 or so years. I attribute it to
the large influx of imported American sit-coms on TV, and cable. As
we know, the word "dudu" is sometimes used as a referance to a bowel
movement. Hence... you get the picture.
>And what do they call you?)
*If* they pronounce it right, it is Da-VEE-da. I have one colleague
who calls me "Dave" or "Davy", but she's the only one who does that.
(I let her, she has a daughter with a much more unusual name than
mine). There was a time when my close family called "D'vi" (and I do
sometimes still sign my name that way, but only in letters to my
family. However, I don't hand write letters much anymore, if I can
help it).
I am fairly pleased that the Israeli nickname didn't get tagged onto
me in either it's original or feminized forms.
("Camptown ladies sing this song... ")
The Chocolate Lady
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:22:27 -0800 during the alt.usage.english
Community News Flash, spam...@merriewood.com (Mimi Kahn) reported:
>On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:12:06 -0500, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J.
>Dinkin) wrote:
>
>>I believe the Israeli nickname for "David" is in fact "Dudu". (Davida, can
>>you back this up? And what do they call you?)
>
>And "Dov," no?
>
No. Dov is Dov - meaning bear. However, in Yiddish, David becomes
Dovid. An Israeli would never call someone Dov if their name was
David.
(The exception being within the ultra-orthodox communities where they
prefer to speek Yiddish. Then, I believe they would use Doveleh. The
name Dov wouldn't be very popular with them, since there isn't anyone
in the Bible named Dov - only the animal.)
David McMurray
The Chocolate Lady wrote:
> (Aaron J. Dinkin) reported:
> > Alexandra and Alexander are both always "Alex"
> No, not "always". I have found that "Sasha" is also used for both
> Alexandra and Alexander. And very common it is, too.
As is "Sandy".
Rhialto
I have a friend whose given name is David. He seems to respond to
anything that begins with a D. To whit:
David
Dave
Davey
Dai (welsh pronunciation: die)
Davros
Dave the rave
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Alexis Rosoff
On Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:24:48 GMT, dch...@jdc.org.il (The Chocolate Lady)
wrote:
|> On Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:00:46 -0500 during the alt.usage.english
|> Community News Flash, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J. Dinkin)
|> reported:
|>
|> >
|> > Alexandra and Alexander are both always "Alex"
|> No, not "always". I have found that "Sasha" is also used for both
|> Alexandra and Alexander. And very common it is, too.
Sasha is more common as a girl's name over here, I think. I have one
acquiantance named Alexander who's called Sasha, and people always seem to
raise eyebrows at it. Names ending in `a' tend to be stereotyped as female
in English.
using Sasha for Alexander seems to be Russian-style, like Kolya for
Nikolai and Mischa for Mikhail. (if I remember correctly!)
Alexis
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Truly Donovan
On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0000, "Rhialto"
<rhix...@easynet.co.ukx> wrote:
>To whit:
Isn't that supposed to be "to wit"?
Lee Rudolph
tru...@ibm.net (Truly Donovan) writes:
>On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0000, "Rhialto"
><rhix...@easynet.co.ukx> wrote:
>
>>To whit:
>
>Isn't that supposed to be "to wit"?
To whoo?
Lee Rudolph, on a cheery note
Stan Brown
In article <68l8pe$e...@panix3.panix.com>, lrud...@panix.com (Lee
>tru...@ibm.net (Truly Donovan) writes:
>
>>On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0000, "Rhialto"
>><rhix...@easynet.co.ukx> wrote:
>>
>>>To whit:
>>
>>Isn't that supposed to be "to wit"?
>
>To whoo?
To whoom, surely.
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In article <4802ae...@cybernexus.demon.co.uk>, bas
<b...@cybernexus.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <68l8pe$e...@panix3.panix.com>,
> Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
> > tru...@ibm.net (Truly Donovan) writes:
> >
> > >On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0000, "Rhialto"
> > ><rhix...@easynet.co.ukx> wrote:
> > >
> > >>To whit:
> > >
> > >Isn't that supposed to be "to wit"?
> >
> > To whoo?
>
> Isn't that supposed to be "to woo"?
>
> b.
>
No, no, it's "to whom"!
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