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Arcadian Rises

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May 7, 2011, 5:44:20 AM5/7/11
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I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
insanity.

How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
her attic"?

the Omrud

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May 7, 2011, 5:58:59 AM5/7/11
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I've never heard it. "the attic" can mean the brain (it's at the top),
but I don't know about toys.

--
David

Prai Jei

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May 7, 2011, 6:23:03 AM5/7/11
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Arcadian Rises set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

I've heard the expression but don't really know what it means. Taking it
literally, the image of the attic is of a place that's difficult to get to,
a dumping ground for things that are not required in the short-term, or
ever. So "toys in the attic" would seem to mean "toys put away for good"
and therefore the intended meaning is "grown-up, mature".

"When I became a man, I put away childish things." - St. Paul (1 Cor 13:11)
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Katy Jennison

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May 7, 2011, 6:40:03 AM5/7/11
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I think I've heard "woodworm in the attic". Not toys, though.

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Katy Jennison

Duggy

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May 7, 2011, 7:11:44 AM5/7/11
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I think it's "X it in attic" - upstairs = brain.

I don't recall toys, I think I've heard "Not enough X in the attic" or
"Bats in the attic."

I'd certainly get what "toys" means, though.

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Horace LaBadie

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May 7, 2011, 8:11:00 AM5/7/11
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In article
<49c4ec1a-99ac-4a6f...@p18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:

Other than the title of the play by Lillian Hellman (and the movie
adaptation), I don't think that it is used in ordinary speech now.

Arcadian Rises

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May 7, 2011, 8:38:01 AM5/7/11
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On May 7, 8:11 am, Horace LaBadie <hwlabadi...@nospam.highstream.net>
wrote:
> In article
> <49c4ec1a-99ac-4a6f-806f-8600d19bd...@p18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

>  Arcadian Rises <Arcadianri...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
> > insanity.
>
> > How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
> > her attic"?
>
> Other than the title of the play by Lillian Hellman (and the movie
> adaptation),

or the song

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/a/aerosmith/toys_in_the_attic.html

> I don't think that it is used in ordinary speech now.

Thank you.
So it's passe, like "groovy"?

Jerry Friedman

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May 7, 2011, 8:47:34 AM5/7/11
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Perhaps THIS will refresh your memory.

"Crazy
Toys in the attic, I am crazy.
Truly gone fishing."

(I am quoting a popular beat combo, Worm your Honour.)

--
Jerry Friedman

Nick Spalding

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May 7, 2011, 9:57:36 AM5/7/11
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Horace LaBadie wrote, in
<hwlabadiejr-2FFE...@news.isp.giganews.com>
on Sat, 07 May 2011 08:11:00 -0400:

Coincidence time, there is a reference to that play in the obituary
pages of The Times today.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

Arcadian Rises

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May 7, 2011, 10:47:11 AM5/7/11
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On May 7, 9:57 am, Nick Spalding <spald...@iol.ie> wrote:
> Horace LaBadie wrote, in
> <hwlabadiejr-2FFEB6.08105907052...@news.isp.giganews.com>

>  on Sat, 07 May 2011 08:11:00 -0400:
>
> > In article
> > <49c4ec1a-99ac-4a6f-806f-8600d19bd...@p18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

> >  Arcadian Rises <Arcadianri...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
> > > insanity.
>
> > > How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
> > > her attic"?
>
> > Other than the title of the play by Lillian Hellman (and the movie
> > adaptation), I don't think that it is used in ordinary speech now.
>
> Coincidence time, there is a reference to that play in the obituary
> pages of The Times today.
> --
> Nick Spalding
> BrE/IrE

What does it read?

Nick Spalding

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May 7, 2011, 11:04:49 AM5/7/11
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Arcadian Rises wrote, in
<e91b9a7d-45e0-4f9f...@q30g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>
on Sat, 7 May 2011 07:47:11 -0700 (PDT):

It's only a passing reference in a follow-up from one Harriet Hall to an
obituary of one Lord Ampthill (who he?) that appeared a few days ago:

"During his impresario phase, he was trying out a play in Oxford,
Lillian Hellman's /Toys in the Attic/, with a stellar cast, and invited
my parents and me to see it."
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Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

Horace LaBadie

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May 7, 2011, 12:56:45 PM5/7/11
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In article
<8752f4fb-bf20-4da3...@z37g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Arcadian Rises <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote:

> On May 7, 8:11 am, Horace LaBadie <hwlabadi...@nospam.highstream.net>
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <49c4ec1a-99ac-4a6f-806f-8600d19bd...@p18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> >  Arcadian Rises <Arcadianri...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
> > > insanity.
> >
> > > How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
> > > her attic"?
> >
> > Other than the title of the play by Lillian Hellman (and the movie
> > adaptation),
>
> or the song
>

> http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/a/aerosmith/toys in the attic.html


>
> > I don't think that it is used in ordinary speech now.
>
> Thank you.
> So it's passe, like "groovy"?

Groovy might be used now, if only in an ironical manner. Toys in the
attic, however, is limited to allusion.

Arcadian Rises

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May 7, 2011, 1:16:54 PM5/7/11
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On May 7, 11:04 am, Nick Spalding <spald...@iol.ie> wrote:
> Arcadian Rises wrote, in
> <e91b9a7d-45e0-4f9f-9fd8-3f491a95b...@q30g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>
> BrE/IrE- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you so much for your time spent to satisfy my curiosity.

The play sounds interesting, among other things it's about some
incestuous, perhaps the toys in the attic?
I let you know after I finish reading it.

Nasti J

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May 7, 2011, 3:27:05 PM5/7/11
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On May 7, 10:16 am, Arcadian Rises <Arcadianri...@aol.com> wrote:

> The play sounds interesting, among other things it's about some
> incestuous, perhaps the toys in the attic?

I think you are conflating Hellman's "Toys in the Attic" with
V.C.Andrews' "Flowers in the Attic"

Col. Edmund J. Burke

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May 7, 2011, 3:42:10 PM5/7/11
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"Arcadian Rises" <Arcadi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Toys in the attic refers to dildos up there, when in fact, they belong in
the twat.

John Varela

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May 7, 2011, 10:05:32 PM5/7/11
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On Sat, 7 May 2011 09:58:59 UTC, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

A lunatic is someone who is moony in his top story.

--
John Varela

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Arcadian Rises

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May 9, 2011, 7:53:13 AM5/9/11
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On May 8, 1:41 pm, Lane <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> I rarely hear it, but when I have, it's always been "toys in the
> attic". No "his" or "her".

Thank you. We finally got to the usage point.
Won't you please illustrate with an example for the imaginative
impaired (i.e. me)? I cannot picture the actual usage. Is it just
"there are toys in the attic"?
>
> First time I heard the expression was probably as the title of an
> Aerosmith album from the 70's.

shen...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2017, 11:28:11 AM3/30/17
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I realize I am way late on this. My note is that I heard the expression in an episode of X Files, last night. It is an episode from season 5 - maybe episode 6... (I'm binging the show before netflix takes it down April 1st).

I know I've heard the expression before, but in the episode, a detective is talking to agent scully about a little girl and he says, "Toys in the attic, you know?"

And she says, "You think she's autistic?"

I was surprised that the reference specifically went to autistic so I came on today to see if that is what is meant.

Harrison Hill

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Mar 30, 2017, 11:36:57 AM3/30/17
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On Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:28:11 UTC+1, shen...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, May 9, 2011 at 6:53:13 AM UTC-5, Arcadian Rises wrote:
> > On May 8, 1:41 pm, Lane <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > Arcadian Rises wrote:
> > > > I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
> > > > insanity.
> > >
> > > > How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
> > > > her attic"?
> > >
> > > I rarely hear it, but when I have, it's always been "toys in the
> > > attic". No "his" or "her".
> >
> > Thank you. We finally got to the usage point.
> > Won't you please illustrate with an example for the imaginative
> > impaired (i.e. me)? I cannot picture the actual usage. Is it just
> > "there are toys in the attic"?
> > >
> > > First time I heard the expression was probably as the title of an
> > > Aerosmith album from the 70's.
>
> I realize I am way late on this. My note is that I heard the expression in an episode of X Files, last night. It is an episode from season 5 - maybe episode 6... (I'm binging the show before netflix takes it down April 1st).

...bingeing...?

Jerry Friedman

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Mar 30, 2017, 12:32:22 PM3/30/17
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I think it refers to any mental illness, maybe especially the less
dangerous ones. Did Scully have some clue that the little girl might
have been autistic?

--
Jerry Friedman

bebe...@aol.com

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Mar 30, 2017, 12:44:56 PM3/30/17
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Le samedi 7 mai 2011 11:58:59 UTC+2, the Omrud a écrit :
> On 07/05/2011 10:44, Arcadian Rises wrote:
> > I understand that "toys in the attic" is a euphemism for mental
> > insanity.
> >
> > How do you use it? "He's got toys in his attic"? or "There are toys in
> > her attic"?
>
> I've never heard it. "the attic" can mean the brain (it's at the top),

Yes, as does "belfry" in "spiders in the belfry", a similar phrase.

bill van

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Mar 30, 2017, 12:46:56 PM3/30/17
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In article <88807bd3-dfdf-473f...@googlegroups.com>,
"Toys in the attic" is, according to Wikipedia, a euphemism for
insanity. "Bats in (her) belfry" would be a parallel; these expression
do not include information about a particular diagnosis. My reading: The
character Agent Scully was a medical doctor, who may have turned the
detective's vague, uninformed reference to the girl's insanity into a
reasonable assessment of her condition.
--
bill

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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Mar 30, 2017, 1:01:56 PM3/30/17
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bebe...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Yes, as does "belfry" in "spiders in the belfry", a similar phrase.
>
In AmE: "bats in the belfry".

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~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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Mar 30, 2017, 1:26:54 PM3/30/17
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Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
>
> bebe...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Yes, as does "belfry" in "spiders in the belfry", a similar phrase.
>>
> In AmE: "bats in the belfry".
>
bebercito's "spiders" seems to be from the French

« avoir une araignée au plafond »
and
« avoir une araignée dans la tête ».

bebe...@aol.com

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Mar 30, 2017, 2:10:00 PM3/30/17
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That's right, I knew the right English form, but I mixed it up with French "avoir une araignée au plafond".

I've never come across "avoir une araignée dans la tête", though.
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