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Berkeley Brett

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:01:57 PM12/18/07
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Just two quick questions:

1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
sound, or the long "i" sound)?

and

2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on EITHER
question!

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Skitt

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:20:07 PM12/18/07
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Berkeley Brett wrote:

> Just two quick questions:
>
> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
> and
>
> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on EITHER
> question!

I do it either way, as the mood strikes me. I don't believe there are any
regional divisions for those pronunciations, but I could be wrong.
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Adrian Bailey

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:30:54 PM12/18/07
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"Berkeley Brett" <Roya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just two quick questions:
>
> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?

both

> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?

I'm not sure there is one. I think the E pronunciation is the more usual
one, but the I pronunciation is more "educated".

Adrian


Mark Brader

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:34:21 PM12/18/07
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Berkeley Brett writes:
> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?

Either way. Or either way. Either one of those.

> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?

I have no idea.
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Joe Fineman

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Dec 18, 2007, 8:36:07 PM12/18/07
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"Skitt" <ski...@comcast.net> writes:

> I do it either way, as the mood strikes me. I don't believe there
> are any regional divisions for those pronunciations, but I could be
> wrong.

According to the OED, the two pronunciations have been mixing it up
for several centuries. I used to waver myself, but then I heard that
the I pronunciation had been introduced into English by George III &
was a Germanism. As a good American in small matters, I thenceforth
confined myself to the E pronunciation, tho I soon learned that the
history was wrong.
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Steve Hayes

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Dec 18, 2007, 10:37:11 PM12/18/07
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:01:57 -0800 (PST), Berkeley Brett <Roya...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Just two quick questions:
>
>1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
>sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
>and
>
>2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?

I use the long I sound, but my mother used the ee sound.

Perhaps it's generational rather that geographical, just as my son says "AS
well" while I say "As WELL".


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R H Draney

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Dec 18, 2007, 11:32:37 PM12/18/07
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Mark Brader filted:

>
>Berkeley Brett writes:
>> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
>> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
>Either way. Or either way. Either one of those.
>
>> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>
>I have no idea.

Let's call the whole thing off....r


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jerry_f...@yahoo.com

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Dec 19, 2007, 12:04:58 AM12/19/07
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On Dec 18, 6:01 pm, Berkeley Brett <Royal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just two quick questions:
>
> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
> and
>
> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>
> Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on EITHER
> question!

Just to be different from those whose posts I've seen, I always say
"eether".

My impression, just an impression, is that in the U.S.
"eyether" (/'aIDR/) is most common in the suburban northeast, but I've
heard it everywhere I've lived.

Sal?

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Jerry Friedman

Oleg Lego

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Dec 19, 2007, 2:15:28 AM12/19/07
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:01:57 -0800 (PST), Berkeley Brett posted:

>Just two quick questions:
>
>1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
>sound, or the long "i" sound)?

Ayther way.

>and
>
>2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>
>Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on EITHER
>question!

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Wood Avens

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Dec 19, 2007, 7:51:48 AM12/19/07
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:01:57 -0800 (PST), Berkeley Brett
<Roya...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Just two quick questions:
>
>1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
>sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
>and
>
>2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>

Considering this question, it struck me that it was a long time since
I heard anyone in England pronounce either of them with a long ee.

Probably half-a-dozen fellow-Brits will be along in a minute to
demonstrate the smallness of the circle of my acquaintances.

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James Silverton

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Dec 19, 2007, 8:20:48 AM12/19/07
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"Skitt" <ski...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Berkeley Brett wrote:
>
>> Just two quick questions:
>>
>> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long
>> "e"
>> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>>
>> and
>>
>> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these
>> pronunciations?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on
>> EITHER
>> question!
>
> I do it either way, as the mood strikes me. I don't believe
> there are any regional divisions for those pronunciations, but
> I could be wrong.
> --

It's good to know I'm not the only who who does it!

--
Jim Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Peter Moylan

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Dec 19, 2007, 8:27:00 PM12/19/07
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On 19/12/07 12:01, Berkeley Brett wrote:

> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?

Both ways, with perhaps a slight preference for the "ee" versions.

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Fred Springer

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Dec 19, 2007, 8:41:54 PM12/19/07
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Berkeley Brett wrote:
> Just two quick questions:
>
> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>
> and
>
> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
The ee sound is standard American, and the long I (ai) sound is standard
British. But the ee sound has also become quite common in British
English in recent years.

This answer is supported by three separate pronunciation dictionaries
I've looked at:
Daniel Jones, English Pronouncing dictionary, 11th ed 1956
Jack Windsor Lewis, Concise Pronouncing dictionary of British And
American English, 1972
Oxford BBC Guide to Pronunciation, 2006

The original pronunciation was with a long I, as is clear from the
spelling of the OED's oldest cited Old English use of the word in 893.
Anglo Saxon spelling was a much more reliable guide to the sound of a
word than modern English spelling.

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Jan 2, 2008, 5:48:04 PM1/2/08
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"Skitt" <ski...@comcast.net> writes:

> Berkeley Brett wrote:
>
>> Just two quick questions:
>>
>> 1) How do you pronounce "either" and "neither" (with the long "e"
>> sound, or the long "i" sound)?
>>
>> and
>>
>> 2) Do you know the regional breakdowns of these pronunciations?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might care to share on EITHER
>> question!
>
> I do it either way, as the mood strikes me. I don't believe there are
> any regional divisions for those pronunciations, but I could be wrong.

I think you are. I picked up /aITR/ (long "i") sometime after moving
to California from Chicago in 1982, and my mom still notices it. I
actually use both, but it seems to be systematic. In "either X or Y"
or "either one", it's (usually) /aITR/, but in "me, either" or
"either/or" it's /iTR/ (long "e").

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Christian Weisgerber

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Jan 3, 2008, 11:14:07 AM1/3/08
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Evan Kirshenbaum <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:

> I think you are. I picked up /aITR/ (long "i") sometime after moving
> to California from Chicago in 1982, and my mom still notices it. I
> actually use both, but it seems to be systematic. In "either X or Y"
> or "either one", it's (usually) /aITR/, but in "me, either" or
> "either/or" it's /iTR/ (long "e").

/T/? Really?

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Evan Kirshenbaum

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Jan 3, 2008, 3:06:01 PM1/3/08
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na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:

> Evan Kirshenbaum <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>
>> I think you are. I picked up /aITR/ (long "i") sometime after moving
>> to California from Chicago in 1982, and my mom still notices it. I
>> actually use both, but it seems to be systematic. In "either X or Y"
>> or "either one", it's (usually) /aITR/, but in "me, either" or
>> "either/or" it's /iTR/ (long "e").
>
> /T/? Really?

No. I have no idea where that came from. /D/, of course.

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Peter Moylan

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Jan 4, 2008, 4:41:36 AM1/4/08
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On 04/01/08 07:06, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> na...@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) writes:
>
>> Evan Kirshenbaum <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think you are. I picked up /aITR/ (long "i") sometime after moving
>>> to California from Chicago in 1982, and my mom still notices it. I
>>> actually use both, but it seems to be systematic. In "either X or Y"
>>> or "either one", it's (usually) /aITR/, but in "me, either" or
>>> "either/or" it's /iTR/ (long "e").
>> /T/? Really?
>
> No. I have no idea where that came from.

From the eithernet, I imagine.

> /D/, of course.

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