"Posted Keep Out" - What does "Posted" mean here?
Podibanda Kuruppu
Posted
Keep Out
Why "Posted"? Isn't "Keep Out" enough here?
John Simutis
: A sign on the roof of a huge water tank reads:
: Posted
: Keep Out
: Why "Posted"? Isn't "Keep Out" enough here?
I think it is probably related to a legal requirement to give public
notice of the restriction; this appears to be the sense of many uses of
'posted' in the California Fish and Game Code.
Other codes or other states may differ.
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Gary G. Taylor
Trespassing" sign (or signs) has(have) been posted. In many
jurisdictions, actually posting such a sign(ahem) is a necessary first
step in order to have trespassers arrested, since one cannot know
whether property is privately- or publicly-owned without such a
notice.
On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:03:11 GMT, po...@nospam3com.com (Podibanda
Kuruppu) wrote:
>A sign on the roof of a huge water tank reads:
>
> Posted
>Keep Out
>
>Why "Posted"? Isn't "Keep Out" enough here?
Gary G. Taylor 29 Palms, CA
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Truly Donovan
Kuruppu) wrote:
>A sign on the roof of a huge water tank reads:
>
> Posted
>Keep Out
>
>Why "Posted"? Isn't "Keep Out" enough here?
I suspect that somewhere there is a law that says if you want to keep
people out of an area, signs must be posted in the area [or words to
that general effect], and so the signs mean "here's the damn post the
law requires: keep out!"
But that's only a suspicion.
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Truly Donovan
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peter prictoe
John Simutis wrote in message <7d5va9$eb3$1...@news.ncal.verio.com>...
>
>: A sign on the roof of a huge water tank reads:
>
>: Posted
>: Keep Out
>
>: Why "Posted"? Isn't "Keep Out" enough here?
>
PP There is a sign in a field here in South Yorkshire
that reads
"Do not throw stones at this notice"
Peter
John Davies
<pe...@algy44.freeserve.co.uk> writes
And the fly-posted:
STICK NO
"STICK NO BILLS"
BILLS
Is "fly posting" common to both sides of the Atlantic? It means the
practice of sticking posters or handbills up in places where they're not
allowed, like fences around building sites, or boarded-up shop fronts,
or whatever. When it was part of my job to organise arts events in
Germany, I discovered that, although illegal, the practice was winked at
by the authorities so long as one kept off certain sites like hospitals
and churches. And the practitioners had a code of conduct about not
posting over competitors' bills until a certain period had elapsed. Is
all that peculiarly German, does anyone know?
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John Davies (jo...@redwoods.demon.co.uk)
Rod Taylor
John Davies wrote in message
<1uNZ$bAd7Y...@redwoods.demon.co.uk>...
>Is "fly posting" common to both sides of the Atlantic? It means
the
>practice of sticking posters or handbills up in places where
they're not
>allowed, like fences around building sites, or boarded-up shop
fronts,
>or whatever ...
It's certainly very common here in South Africa.
Rod
Eric The Read
> Is "fly posting" common to both sides of the Atlantic?
I've never heard that name for it (in fact, I didn't know it *had* a
name), but the practise is common in North America.
> When it was part of my job to organise arts events in Germany, I
> discovered that, although illegal, the practice was winked at by the
> authorities so long as one kept off certain sites like hospitals and
> churches.
This would probably be true or not on a case-by-case basis in the US.
Most laws like this are city or county laws. I do know that (especially
in college towns) nobody seemed to mind, as long as you stuck to
lampposts or areas where such signs were explicitly allowed.
> And the practitioners had a code of conduct about not
> posting over competitors' bills until a certain period had elapsed.
I was told by a friend who had a band that you didn't paste over anybody
else's poster until after their event was over. It's simple
self-interest: if you pre-empted their poster, somebody else would feel
justified in papering over yours, and then nobody would be able to put up
a poster.
> Is all that peculiarly German, does anyone know?
I doubt it. :)
-=Eric
JMccull171
over in England that everywhere you go you can see signs that say
BILL STICKERS WILL BE PROSECUTED.
Jack
JB
He's probably wanted for putting up those 'POST NO BILLS' signs
everywhere. --JB
Truly Donovan
public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
So why "Post No Bills"?
R J Valentine
] All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
] public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
]
] In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
] are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
] people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
] verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
]
] So why "Post No Bills"?
Tradition. (Didn't the _Gasoline Alley_ strip have it in the title panel
next to a sign that said something like "NOTARY SOJAC"?)
It probably has a well defined legal meaning.
It's shorter.
ObOffTopic: When mailing packages, I usually print "Priority Mail" front
and back and "Post No Bills" on one end and "Use No Hooks" on the other.
--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:r...@clark.net>
Robert Lieblich
<snip>
> Tradition. (Didn't the _Gasoline Alley_ strip have it in the title panel
> next to a sign that said something like "NOTARY SOJAC"?)
Smokey Stover.
Bob Lieblich
BA
"poster." The huge, tacky highway signs are still called "bill"boards.
Advertising bills were "posted"
on vertical surfaces. Thus the change to "poster" after "bill" came to mean
more different things.
"Post no bills" means don't hang your junk on my wall.
BA
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Truly Donovan wrote in message <3705fc49...@news3.ibm.net>...
Robert M. Wilson
Truly Donovan wrote in message <3705fc49...@news3.ibm.net>...
>All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
>public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
>
>are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
>people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
>verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
>
>So why "Post No Bills"?
Because we put them on "billboards", and if we have two shows, we have a
"double bill",
unless you are the Pope who posts "bulls" (same origin).
Americans have a "dollar bill" but I have never heard of an Englishman
having a "pound bill".
Robert Bryan Lipton
Truly Donovan wrote in message <3705fc49...@news3.ibm.net>...
>All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
>public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
>
>In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
>are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
>people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
>verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
>
>So why "Post No Bills"?
It's traditional. It's a short phrase, everyone knows what it means and no
one pays attention.
Artound here we don't call them signs. We call them 'posters'. Signs are,
generally, more permanent things. A billboard -- big, looming over the
road, that can be seen two states away, is a sign. sign. Things that are
glued to the wooden walls of construction sites -- marked by blue paint and
white, stencilled 'post no bills' -- that are meant to inform people of
the laterst HBO special, gangsta rap album or the Queen Mum's drug cartel,
are posters.
Bob
Bob
JB
>
> All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
> public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
>
> In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
> are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
> people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
> verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
>
> So why "Post No Bills"?
Headline English. It's shorter than 'do not put up any handbills here'.
One meaning of bill has always been a printed announcement or
advertisement, as in billboard. Posting means displaying, a legal term.
Post No Bills reminds me of an occasion when I lived in Rio: an estate's
block-long sidewalk wall which was a perennial graffiti magnet received
one of its periodic whitewashings. The next day it had been decorated
full length in large letters with the phrase 'nao escreve nesta parede'
(do not write on this wall).
--JB
Peter Moylan
>All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
>public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
>
>In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
But you still have billboards, n'est-ce pas?
>are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
>people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
>verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
>
>So why "Post No Bills"?
I suspect that it was originally no more than a desire to save
on paint. It's a nice compact way of getting the message across.
Always assuming, that is, that you do get the message across.
These days it's likely that many people would have trouble parsing
that sentence. In Australia, "Post No Bills" is gradually giving
way to more verbose notices, such as "Bill Posters Will Be Prosecuted."
(Leading, of course, to other signs saying "Bill Posters is innocent.")
One might argue that "prosecuted" is also a Hard Word that some
people will fail to understand. So far it's working out,
because "prosecuted" is still understood by anyone who grew
up reading about Trespassers William.
--
Peter Moylan pe...@ee.newcastle.edu.au
Larry Phillips
> Tradition. (Didn't the _Gasoline Alley_ strip have it in the title
> panel next to a sign that said something like "NOTARY SOJAC"?)
'NOTARY SOJAC ' was from Smokey Stover. I know this because I loved
reading Smokey Stover, and found Gasoline Alley to be the most
humourless, boring, and pointless comic strip in existence.
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willia...@my-dejanews.com
tr...@lunemere.com wrote:
> All my reading life I've been intrigued by the notice often found in
> public places in the US, "Post No Bills."
>
> In normal usage, we don't call them "bills," we call them signs; we
Hmmm...I'd always thought of them as more like "handbills", which are flimsy
paper; but, of course, it's probably the flimsy paper that makes them
handbills rather than bills.
> are far more likely to use "put up" than "post"; and, if we want
> people to refrain from doing something, we express it with a negative
> verb form, not a negative noun form--"do not post any," not "post no."
>
> So why "Post No Bills"?
I think that the signs indicate that the places are intended for the display
of grand jury findings that there has been no indictable offense. Either
that, or the signs encourage the delivery of invoices by some other means
than the mail.
Or else, possibly, it's just a fossil.
Gary Williams
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Rachel Meredith Kadel-Garcia
<bobl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Artound here we don't call them signs. We call them 'posters'. Signs are,
>generally, more permanent things. A billboard -- big, looming over the
>road, that can be seen two states away, is a sign. sign. Things that are
>glued to the wooden walls of construction sites -- marked by blue paint and
>white, stencilled 'post no bills' -- that are meant to inform people of
>the laterst HBO special, gangsta rap album or the Queen Mum's drug cartel,
>are posters.
The glossy ones are. The ones printed on ordinary 8 1/2 x 11 paper
I'm more likely to call "flyers", although the act of putting them up
en masse is still "postering".
Rachel
Patrick M. Berry
> R J Valentine wrote:
>
> > Tradition. (Didn't the _Gasoline Alley_ strip have it in the title
> > panel next to a sign that said something like "NOTARY SOJAC"?)
>
> 'NOTARY SOJAC ' was from Smokey Stover. I know this because I loved
> reading Smokey Stover, and found Gasoline Alley to be the most
> humourless, boring, and pointless comic strip in existence.
That was before "Family Circus," right?
Harald Manninga
> I have heard that a man named William Stickers is such a
> notorious criminal over in England that everywhere you go you
> can see signs that say
>
> BILL STICKERS WILL BE PROSECUTED.
He's not the only one: There were times when BILL *POSTERS* used to be
prosecuted. They got hold of him, eventually, and Alan Silitoe wrote his
biography: "The Death of William Posters".
Harry
--
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Larry Phillips
>
> Larry Phillips <lar...@home.com> writes:
>>
>> 'NOTARY SOJAC ' was from Smokey Stover. I know this because I loved
>> reading Smokey Stover, and found Gasoline Alley to be the most
>> humourless, boring, and pointless comic strip in existence.
>
> That was before "Family Circus," right?
Yes, but even so, 'Gasoline Alley' would still take the prize, even
against such 'winners' as 'Henry', 'Little Lulu', 'Luann', and
'Rex Morgan. M.D.'.
Bruce Girrell
Larry Phillips wrote in message <3701AA1B...@home.com>...
>Yes, but even so, 'Gasoline Alley' would still take the prize, even
>against such 'winners' as 'Henry', 'Little Lulu', 'Luann', and
>'Rex Morgan. M.D.'.
Oh, please don't leave out 'Dondi.'
Larry Phillips
I never saw 'Dondi'. The word 'spared' comes to mind.
golgo13
> "Post no bills" means don't hang your junk on my wall.
I recall seeing this on background scenery in cartoons, but I don't
recall ever running across a real "post no bills" sign. I've always
assumed these things were frequently observed at some point in the past,
but they must have lost their popularity at some point - I'm betting in
the 1950s or so. I'm sure there are probably a few around, but they must
be rather uncommon.
DLS
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work have come from the destructive variety." - H.L.M.
Richard Fontana
> BA <spe...@cutmindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > "Post no bills" means don't hang your junk on my wall.
>
> I recall seeing this on background scenery in cartoons, but I don't
> recall ever running across a real "post no bills" sign. I've always
> assumed these things were frequently observed at some point in the past,
> but they must have lost their popularity at some point - I'm betting in
> the 1950s or so. I'm sure there are probably a few around, but they must
> be rather uncommon.
"Post No Bills" signs can be seen in New York on nearly every
commercial street.
RF
Iskandar Baharuddin
> BA <spe...@cutmindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > "Post no bills" means don't hang your junk on my wall.
>
> I recall seeing this on background scenery in cartoons, but I don't
> recall ever running across a real "post no bills" sign. I've always
> assumed these things were frequently observed at some point in the past,
> but they must have lost their popularity at some point - I'm betting in
> the 1950s or so. I'm sure there are probably a few around, but they must
> be rather uncommon.
>
> DLS
> --
> D.Sosnoski
> gol...@mindspring.com
> "All the benefits I have ever got from the critics of my
> work have come from the destructive variety." - H.L.M.
I haven't been following this thread, and I admit I haven't looked in
DejaNews..
But I'll ask anyway. Has anyone come up with:
"Bill Posters will be prosecuted"?
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Izzy
"So I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse..."
from "My Struggle", by Alfred E Neuman
Robert Lieblich
<snip>
> "Post No Bills" signs can be seen in New York on nearly every
> commercial street.
But in many instances X-ray vision is required.
Bob Lieblich
Richard Fontana
That's true. From what I've noticed (during the past twenty-four hours),
most of the *visible* "Post No Bills" signs are actually those which are
stencilled onto the scaffolding and temporary walls at building
construction sites, which makes me think that posting a Post No Bills sign
may be a requirement contained in the grant of a commercial construction
permit.
RF
Evan Kirshenbaum
> I haven't been following this thread, and I admit I haven't looked
> in DejaNews..
>
> But I'll ask anyway. Has anyone come up with:
>
> "Bill Posters will be prosecuted"?
I remember a Benny Hill skit (about graffiti) in which he talks about
seeing a sign that reads
"Bill Stickers Will Be Prosecuted"
with the scrawled message nearby:
"Let Bill Stickers Go Free"
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