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Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
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Liam O'Connor
May 10, 2014, 12:25:04 PM5/10/14
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Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
Googling, I find both.
Googling, I find both.
charles
May 10, 2014, 12:39:07 PM5/10/14
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In article <bc596$536e52e0$43da7656$12...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>,
A "plumb line" is a straight (vertical) line made by hanging a lead weight
on a piece of string.
By association, in your context it means completely (or straight)
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Liam O'Connor <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
> Googling, I find both.
I susect it was originally Plumb.
> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
> Googling, I find both.
A "plumb line" is a straight (vertical) line made by hanging a lead weight
on a piece of string.
By association, in your context it means completely (or straight)
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Bertel Lund Hansen
May 10, 2014, 1:26:44 PM5/10/14
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Liam O'Connor skrev:
> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"?
If you are talking about a plum that is being squeezed, it's a
plum out of luck. But the ordinary expression is "plumb out of
luck" which means "completely out of luck"
> Why?
Because that is what "plumb" means in this sentence. "Plumb" also
means "weight/lead/sinker/plumb bob" - that is something heavy at
the end of a line. Such a contraption is used to measure if
something is precisely vertical, and this has led to "plumb"
meaning "perfectly" or "completely".
> Googling, I find both.
"Plum" is an error - a (in this group) socalled eggcorn.
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> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"?
plum out of luck. But the ordinary expression is "plumb out of
luck" which means "completely out of luck"
> Why?
Because that is what "plumb" means in this sentence. "Plumb" also
means "weight/lead/sinker/plumb bob" - that is something heavy at
the end of a line. Such a contraption is used to measure if
something is precisely vertical, and this has led to "plumb"
meaning "perfectly" or "completely".
> Googling, I find both.
"Plum" is an error - a (in this group) socalled eggcorn.
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bertel.lundhansen.dk fiduso.dk obese.dk
Peter Moylan
May 10, 2014, 8:39:01 PM5/10/14
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On 11/05/14 02:25, Liam O'Connor wrote:
> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
>
> Googling, I find both.
>
Web pages about unfortunate fruit?
> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
>
> Googling, I find both.
>
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micky
May 10, 2014, 9:14:38 PM5/10/14
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Please say where you live, or what
area's English you are asking about.
So your question or answer makes sense.
. .
I have lived all my life in the USA,
Western Pa. Indianapolis, Chicago,
Brooklyn, Baltimore.
Skitt
May 10, 2014, 9:48:16 PM5/10/14
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On 5/10/2014 6:14 PM, micky wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:25:04 -0500, Liam O'Connor
> <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
>>
>> Googling, I find both.
>
> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
>
Plumb, in all cases. /Plumb/ means /completely/ in these cases.
> On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:25:04 -0500, Liam O'Connor
> <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
>>
>> Googling, I find both.
>
> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
>
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Ross
May 10, 2014, 11:59:40 PM5/10/14
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On Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:14:38 PM UTC+12, micky wrote:
> On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:25:04 -0500, Liam O'Connor
>
> <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
> >Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
> >Googling, I find both.
>
> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
"plumb tuckered out" (remembering it as spoken by Gabby Hayes
> On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:25:04 -0500, Liam O'Connor
>
> <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
> >Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why?
> >Googling, I find both.
>
> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
or somebody like him)
Peter T. Daniels
May 11, 2014, 8:33:23 AM5/11/14
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CDB
May 11, 2014, 8:43:29 AM5/11/14
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On 11/05/2014 8:33 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> Ross wrote:
> Ross wrote:
>> , micky wrote:
>>> Liam O'Connor <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
>>>> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why? Googling,
>>>> I find both.
>>> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
>> "plumb tuckered out" (remembering it as spoken by Gabby Hayes or
>> somebody like him)
> Could you hear the <b>?
Gosh, Miss Kitty, this-here new cathouse settee is plum velvety.
>>> Liam O'Connor <liamo...@example.com> wrote:
>>>> Is it "plum out of luck" or "plumb out of luck"? Why? Googling,
>>>> I find both.
>>> There is also plum... tired. How do you spell that one.
>> "plumb tuckered out" (remembering it as spoken by Gabby Hayes or
>> somebody like him)
> Could you hear the <b>?
Ross
May 11, 2014, 6:37:59 PM5/11/14
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Still, I'm sure Mr Hayes, a native of upstate New York, and "in real life an intelligent, well groomed and articulate man" (Wiki), would have spelled it that way.
Peter T. Daniels
May 11, 2014, 11:16:34 PM5/11/14
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region.) So, more to the point, would have the scriptwriters.
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