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Berkeley Brett

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Apr 15, 2013, 7:38:49 PM4/15/13
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I hope you are all well & in good spirits.

I was recently visiting a friend in the hospital. She had suffered a fracture. Happily, the prognosis is good.

During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of them at different times referred to possible effects of such an "insult" to the body.

I had never heard the word "insult" used in this way. They did not seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical way.

Seems this is an acknowledge special definition:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insult

1. An offensive action or remark.
2.
a. Medicine: A bodily injury, irritation, or trauma.
b. Something that causes bodily injury, irritation, or trauma: "the middle of the Bronx, buffeted and poisoned by the worst environmental insults that urban America can dish out" (William K. Stevens).

Curious.

As always, your thoughts on this are most welcome....

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Apr 15, 2013, 10:16:21 PM4/15/13
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On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:38:49 PM UTC-7, Berkeley Brett wrote:

[...]
> During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of them at different times referred to possible effects of such an "insult" to the body.
>
> I had never heard the word "insult" used in this way. They did not seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical way.
>
> Seems this is an acknowledge special definition:
>
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insult
>
> 1. An offensive action or remark.
>
> 2.
>
> a. Medicine: A bodily injury, irritation, or trauma.
>
> b. Something that causes bodily injury, irritation, or trauma:
> "the middle of the Bronx, buffeted and poisoned by the worst environmental
> insults that urban America can dish out" (William K. Stevens).
>
> Curious.
>
> As always, your thoughts on this are most welcome....

My thoughts are that it is a somewhat familiar usage, though I'm not a medical professional, and I can no longer remember when or where I first heard the usage.


/dps

--
probably in prose, though

Steve Hayes

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Apr 15, 2013, 11:14:41 PM4/15/13
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:38:49 -0700 (PDT), Berkeley Brett <roya...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I hope you are all well & in good spirits.
>
>I was recently visiting a friend in the hospital. She had suffered a fracture. Happily, the prognosis is good.
>
>During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of them at different times referred to possible effects of such an "insult" to the body.
>
>I had never heard the word "insult" used in this way. They did not seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical way.
>
>Seems this is an acknowledge special definition:
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insult
>
>1. An offensive action or remark.
>2.
>a. Medicine: A bodily injury, irritation, or trauma.
>b. Something that causes bodily injury, irritation, or trauma: "the middle of the Bronx, buffeted and poisoned by the worst environmental insults that urban America can dish out" (William K. Stevens).
>
>Curious.
>
>As always, your thoughts on this are most welcome....

Is that the origin of the phrasde "adding insult to injury"?


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Peter Brooks

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Apr 16, 2013, 1:12:07 AM4/16/13
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On Apr 16, 5:14 am, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:38:49 -0700 (PDT), Berkeley Brett <royal...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >I hope you are all well & in good spirits.
>
> >I was recently visiting a friend in the hospital. She had suffered a fracture. Happily, the prognosis is good.
>
> >During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of them at different times referred to possible effects of such an "insult" to the body.
>
> >I had never heard the word "insult" used in this way. They did not seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical way.
>
> >Seems this is an acknowledge special definition:
>
> >http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insult
>
> >1. An offensive action or remark.
> >2.
> >a. Medicine: A bodily injury, irritation, or trauma.
> >b. Something that causes bodily injury, irritation, or trauma: "the middle of the Bronx, buffeted and poisoned by the worst environmental insults that urban America can dish out" (William K. Stevens).
>
> >Curious.
>
> >As always, your thoughts on this are most welcome....
>
> Is that the origin of the phrasde "adding insult to injury"?
>
No. "2.2 An act, or the action, of insulting (in sense 1 or 2 of vb.);
injuriously contemptuous speech or behaviour; scornful utterance or
action intended to wound self-respect; an affront, indignity, outrage.
Freq. in phr. to add insult to injury. " [OED]

Dr Nick

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Apr 19, 2013, 2:27:18 AM4/19/13
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Berkeley Brett <roya...@gmail.com> writes:

> I hope you are all well & in good spirits.
>
> I was recently visiting a friend in the hospital. She had suffered a
> fracture. Happily, the prognosis is good.
>
> During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of
> them at different times referred to possible effects of such an
> "insult" to the body.
>
> I had never heard theq word "insult" used in this way. They did not
> seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical
> way.

We discussed this here only a few months ago.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB&fromgroups=#!topic/alt.usage.english/IZLrq3B82KI

Marius Hancu

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Apr 19, 2013, 5:39:56 AM4/19/13
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On Apr 15, 7:38 pm, Berkeley Brett <royal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope you are all well & in good spirits.
>
> I was recently visiting a friend in the hospital. She had suffered a fracture. Happily, the prognosis is good.
>
> During our visit, a doctor came in and later a nurse (an RN). Each of them at different times referred to possible effects of such an "insult" to the body.
>
> I had never heard the word "insult" used in this way. They did not seem to be speaking metaphorically, but in a natural though technical way.
>
> Seems this is an acknowledge special definition:
>
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insult
>
> 1. An offensive action or remark.
> 2.
> a. Medicine: A bodily injury, irritation, or trauma.
> b. Something that causes bodily injury, irritation, or trauma: "the middle of the Bronx, buffeted and poisoned by the worst environmental insults that urban America can dish out" (William K. Stevens).
>
> Curious.
>
> As always, your thoughts on this are most welcome....

Seems common:
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Medical Desk Dictionary - Page 332
1995 - Preview

insult
injury to the body
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insult

3
: damage or an instance of injury to the body or one of its parts
<repeated acute vascular insults> <any insult to the constitution of a
patient suffering from active tuberculosis — Journal of the American
Medical Association> also : an agent that produces such an insult <a
thermal insult> <damage resulting from malnutritional insults>

M-W U
----

Not that I've known about it.

Marius Hancu
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