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James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 4:53:26 PM7/13/16
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I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html

Taxed and Spent

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Jul 13, 2016, 5:03:28 PM7/13/16
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C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
clamp, no.

dpb

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Jul 13, 2016, 5:03:44 PM7/13/16
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Never heard it of anything but "C" in US; I guess it's that we ignore
the stem and look only at the casting in characterizing the shape.

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Richard Heathfield

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Jul 13, 2016, 5:23:56 PM7/13/16
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I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.

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RH Draney

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On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

What's that thing under the bathroom sink?...a J trap or a P trap?...r

James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 6:17:58 PM7/13/16
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We call it a U-bend. Because the important part is the curve.

I can understand J-trap, but where does a P shape come into it?

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Jerry Friedman

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:19:28 PM7/13/16
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[a.u.e. only]

On 7/13/16 3:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 13/07/16 22:03, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>>
>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>> clamp, no.
>
> I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
> another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.

Search for light grip, we hear (6)

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Ed Pawlowski

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:23:42 PM7/13/16
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Never heard of a G clamp on this side of the pond. False advertising
though, they can be broken if you try hard enough or abuse them enough.

Jerry Friedman

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:23:59 PM7/13/16
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On 7/13/16 5:19 PM, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> [a.u.e. only]
>
> On 7/13/16 3:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 13/07/16 22:03, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>>
>>>
>>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>>> clamp, no.
>>
>> I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
>> another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.
>
> Search for light grip, we hear (6)

Okay, "6" is unfair, but (1, 5) makes it too easy.

James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:28:48 PM7/13/16
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If you try to use them as a vice perhaps. But I find them very useful for holding something steady for gluing or cutting.

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Frank

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:38:06 PM7/13/16
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On 7/13/2016 4:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
As a Yank my preference is for C clamps and G strings.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 13, 2016, 7:44:42 PM7/13/16
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It'a "c" clamp when it's open, and a "G" clamp when it's partway
closed and a "GD" clamp when you can't find it!!

And on the subject of clamps I still haven't figgured out why Britts
use "g-clamps" to "cramp" something together - - - -

James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:15:52 PM7/13/16
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We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're sleeping on top of each other.

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James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:16:04 PM7/13/16
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At once?

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dpb

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:20:44 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 5:17 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
...

> I can understand J-trap, but where does a P shape come into it?

Lay the P on its side...

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dpb

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:24:50 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
...

> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
> sleeping on top of each other.

That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
don't know that could put my hands on an example.

I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".

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Tony Cooper

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:43:25 PM7/13/16
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That might surprise a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters
and Joiners of America.

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James Wilkinson

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You've got a short circuit.

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James Wilkinson

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Jul 13, 2016, 8:53:36 PM7/13/16
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:24:47 +0100, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:

> On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> ...
>
>> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
>> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
>> sleeping on top of each other.
>
> That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
> don't know that could put my hands on an example.

It's entirely possible I'm not familiar with the career path that would cause someone to use that expression.

> I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
> cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
> see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".

I've never seen Joinery for Purpose.

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Dean Hoffman

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:00:50 PM7/13/16
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C clamp in the center of the U.S. This is a farming area
if that matters.

dpb

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:28:16 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 7:43 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:

Dates from the "wayback" machine...when have you _ever_ seen the term in
advertising a commercial cabinet shop in the US? Since the early 20th
century, _maybe_?

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dpb

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:37:27 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 7:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> I've never seen Joinery for Purpose.

Was (I presume still is) the sign in window in cabinet shop in Chatham...

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rbowman

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:41:34 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 02:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

C clamp, G string. Don't confuse the two. I'll admit the C clamps
usually look more like G's.

rbowman

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:43:34 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 03:23 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>
>
> I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
> another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.

I've sometimes wondered if 'capo' is related to 'capon' in some way.

rbowman

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:48:30 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 06:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally
> we'd say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small
> we're sleeping on top of each other.

I can't help it if something cramps your style.

rbowman

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:49:46 PM7/13/16
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On 07/13/2016 06:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:38:04 +0100, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2016 4:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>> As a Yank my preference is for C clamps and G strings.
>
> At once?
>

Something has to hold the G string in place...

Ed Pawlowski

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Jul 13, 2016, 9:49:51 PM7/13/16
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Quaint name, but I wonder how many non-woodworkers know what it means.

Mike Duffy

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:15:46 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote:

> We don't use cramp as a verb.

We do. It's an intransitive verb that is usually only actioned by
musculature:

- Due to the cold, my fist cramped closed.
- Don't yawn too hard or your digastricus might cramp.

I suppose that it is also correct to designate 'to cramp' a transitive
verb which requires musculature as a direct object. It is possible to
deliberately cramp a muscle, but normally this is not done due to the
pain involved.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 13, 2016, 10:38:38 PM7/13/16
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:24:47 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:

>On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>...
>
>> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
>> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
>> sleeping on top of each other.

Same useage as here
>
>That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
>don't know that could put my hands on an example.
>
>I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
>cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
>see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".
I worked with a slew of Limeys in Zambia - several were from
Liverpool, one was actually a Scott - and another was a Cockney. And
then there was an Orangeman as well. half of them used "cramp" instead
of "clamp" for holding something in place with clamps or straps. And
the Orangeman wouldn't have known a clamp if it was tightened on his
--- ear.

dpb

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Jul 14, 2016, 12:34:52 AM7/14/16
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On 07/13/2016 8:49 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 9:37 PM, dpb wrote:
>> On 07/13/2016 7:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've never seen Joinery for Purpose.
>>
>> Was (I presume still is) the sign in window in cabinet shop in Chatham...
...

> Quaint name, but I wonder how many non-woodworkers know what it means.

Well, I would presume quite a few "over there" or it'd been pretty
ineffective signage... :)

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dpb

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I always wanted to stop in and chat but were working trips and were
always out at the plant before they were open and by time were back
wasn't that high on my list of priorities of the day any longer... :)

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the Omrud

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On 13/07/2016 21:53, James Wilkinson wrote:
> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html

There was a peripatetic brass tutor at my school named Mr G Clamp.

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bert

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On Thursday, 14 July 2016 01:15:52 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:44:41 +0100, <clare...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
> > And on the subject of clamps I still haven't figgured out why Britts
> > use "g-clamps" to "cramp" something together - - - -
> We don't. Do you mean crimp? . . .

Actually, we (sort of) do. For a large-scale woodworking
task, a "cramp" is a long metal bar with movable jaw pieces,
perforations to locate them, and a screw action. It could
apply pressure to both ends of a workpiece several feet long,
and the verb for applying such pressure was quite definitely
"to cramp". But it's a "cramp", not a "clamp" of any kind.
--


Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Jul 14, 2016, 6:02:31 AM7/14/16
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In BrE we use "clamp".

Various types of clamp are listed here:
http://www.rutlands.co.uk/pp+woodworking-hand-tools-clamps-vices+b05000

Bar Clamps
F & Parallel Clamps
G Clamps
Strap & Frame Clamps
Door Installation Clamps
Drawer Installation Clamps
Panel Clamps
Quick Action Clamps
Vacuum Clamps
Cable Clamps
Corner Clamps
Toggle Clamps

And lots more clamps here:
http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/clamps/cat831044


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(in alt.usage.english)

Peter T. Daniels

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Jul 14, 2016, 7:26:46 AM7/14/16
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"For Purpose," doofus.
"
Doubtless you'd try to make it "Bespoke Joinery."

Peter T. Daniels

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Jul 14, 2016, 7:29:32 AM7/14/16
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So Canadians (presumably) use "Limey" in non-pejorative contexts.

musika

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On 14/07/2016 11:01, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:15:49 -0700 (PDT), bert
> <bert.hu...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Actually, we (sort of) do. For a large-scale woodworking
>> task, a "cramp" is a long metal bar with movable jaw pieces,
>> perforations to locate them, and a screw action. It could
>> apply pressure to both ends of a workpiece several feet long,
>> and the verb for applying such pressure was quite definitely
>> "to cramp". But it's a "cramp", not a "clamp" of any kind.
>
> In BrE we use "clamp".
>
Except when we use "cramp".

<https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sash+cramp%2Csash+clamp&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Csash%20cramp%3B%2Cc0>

http://tinyurl.com/jl3utve

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Adam Funk

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On 2016-07-13, RH Draney wrote:

> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
> What's that thing under the bathroom sink?...a J trap or a P trap?...r


Plumber (over the phone): I'll get there as soon as I can. Is it a
P-trap or an S-trap?

Distressed housewife: Well, I use it for both!



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Scott Lurndal

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"James Wilkinson" <inv...@something.com> writes:
>I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

Wouldn't it be a G-cramp in the UK?

cramp
kramp/
noun
noun: cramp; plural noun: cramps

1.
a painful, involuntary contraction of a muscle or muscles, typically caused by fatigue or strain.
"he suffered severe cramps in his foot"
synonyms: muscle/muscular spasm, pain, shooting pain, pang, stitch; hyperkinesis
"stomach cramps"
North American
abdominal pain caused by menstruation.
2.
a tool, typically shaped like a capital G, for clamping two objects together for gluing or other work.
a metal bar with bent ends for holding masonry together.
noun: cramp-iron

Jerry Friedman

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Jul 14, 2016, 9:44:21 AM7/14/16
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It's not, but it is related to the Mafia "capo". "Capo" is short for
"capo tasto", which means "head stop"--"capo" is just an Italian word
for "head".

"Capon" comes from a Latin word of obscure origin, maybe from an
Indo-European root meaning "cut".

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=capo

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On 13/07/2016 6:04 PM, RH Draney wrote:
> James Wilkinson wrote:

>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

> What's that thing under the bathroom sink?...a J trap or a P trap?...r

Is no a trap. Is a Siberian Jamster.


Jerry Friedman

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That could be an advantage if the pain is somebody else's. In my
childhood, boys believed that a punch to the right spot on the upper arm
or thigh could cause a cramp, called a Charlie horse.

Friend 1: What horse won the Kentucky Derby?

Friend 2: I don't know.

Friend 1 (punches him): Charlie horse!

It hurt, but I never felt or saw it cause a cramp, and anyway we didn't
use "cramp" as a transitive verb.

"Charlie horse" was discussed in a.u.e. recently. The origin seems to
be unknown.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?


Hey, you wanna buy some nakkid pics of yer wife?


Charles Bishop

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In article <tvndobpv0dnoltfkf...@4ax.com>,
Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:24:47 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
>
> >On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> >...
> >
> >> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
> >> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
> >> sleeping on top of each other.
> >
> >That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
> >don't know that could put my hands on an example.
> >
> >I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
> >cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
> >see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".
>
> That might surprise a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters
> and Joiners of America.

There is also a woodworking tool called a "joiner". It's purpose is to
give a smooth, straight edge to a piece of wood. I was confused by the
name until I realized that with a smooth, straight edge, the piece of
wood could be "joined" together with a second piece.

A "planer" does the same thing with the wider part of the piece of wood.

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Taxed and Spent

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A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.

Mike Duffy

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:35:33 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:

> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.

What do you call the tool who passes out joints?

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Scott Lurndal

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Mike Duffy <mqduf...@bell.net> writes:
>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:35:33 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.
>
>What do you call the tool who passes out joints?

A dealer.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jul 14, 2016, 12:30:38 PM7/14/16
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Actually nit is called a "jointer" - short for "jointer plane"

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 10:47:55 -0400, Mike Duffy <mqduf...@bell.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:35:33 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.
>
>What do you call the tool who passes out joints?
a TOOL.

bill van

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In article <aeb4ccc2-9a66-41ae...@googlegroups.com>,
Perhaps I travel in the wrong circles, but I haven't heard a Canadian
use "Limey" in any context for decades. The only vague memory I can
dredge up is of American soldiers in a WWII movie using it.
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James Wilkinson

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Is a jointer not someone who prepares joints to smoke?

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In article <nm87vl$f4r$2...@dont-email.me>,
Taxed and Spent <nospam...@nonospam.com> wrote:
and jointer can be a trade in the electrical industry. Someone who joints
cables with a joint.

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message news:op.ykj4a...@red.lan...

I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp?
Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html

You mean you don't know!!! "G" clamp is Female and "C" clamp is male

notX

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On 07/13/2016 04:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>
>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>
>
> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
> clamp, no.

I need a U-clamp.

hah

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Jul 14, 2016, 3:08:38 PM7/14/16
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On 07/13/2016 07:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:38:04 +0100, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2016 4:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>> As a Yank my preference is for C clamps and G strings.
>

In case anyone didn't know, a G-string is something you'd find on a guitar.

> At once?
>

Some people do like listening to music while clamping things.

Sam E

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On 07/13/2016 07:20 PM, dpb wrote:
> On 07/13/2016 5:17 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> ...
>
>> I can understand J-trap, but where does a P shape come into it?
>
> Lay the P on its side...
>

What about as S-trap?

Mark Lloyd

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On 07/14/2016 09:35 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:

[snip]

> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.

I have a dictionary from 1934, that defines a "computer" as a person.

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James Wilkinson

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The U does look like an S if you include the rest of the pipe after you've gone up the far side of the U. But the U is the important part where the water trap is.

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:08:35 +0100, hah <h...@no.email.stupid.invalid> wrote:

> On 07/13/2016 07:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:38:04 +0100, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2016 4:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>>
>>> As a Yank my preference is for C clamps and G strings.
>>
>
> In case anyone didn't know, a G-string is something you'd find on a guitar.

Yes of course....

>> At once?
>>
>
> Some people do like listening to music while clamping things.

But playing a guitar while clamping would be difficult.

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More space inside than a C?

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:22:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <n...@mail.invalid>
wrote:

>I have a dictionary from 1934, that defines a "computer" as a person.

Please look up 'Cracker", if you will. People can learn they were
black cowboys. Former slaves, they collected cows left in Florida by
the Spanish, c. 1500s. Hence cracker cows.

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:22:51 -0500, Mark Lloyd <n...@mail.invalid> wrote:

>On 07/14/2016 09:35 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.
>
>I have a dictionary from 1934, that defines a "computer" as a person.

That use goes back a long way.

OED:

computer, n.

1. A person who makes calculations or computations; a calculator, a
reckoner; spec. a person employed to make calculations in an
observatory, in surveying, etc. Now chiefly hist.

1613 ‘R. B.’ Yong Mans Gleanings 1, I haue read the truest
computer of Times, and the best Arithmetician that euer breathed,
and he reduceth thy dayes into a short number.
1646 Sir T. Browne Pseudodoxia Epidemica vi. vi. 289 The
Calenders of these computers .
1704 Swift Tale of Tub vii. 140 A very skillful Computer, who
hath given a full Demonstration of it from Rules of Arithmetick.
1855 D. Brewster Mem. Life I. Newton (new ed.) II. xviii. 162 To
pay the expenses of a computer for reducing his observations.
1893 Publ. Amer. Econ. Assoc. 8 23 Some curious computer makes
out the cost of electing a President for these United States to be
four hundred millions of dollars.
<snip>

Before the elctronic computer came along there were mechanical
"computers".

Electronic computers came into use during WWII.


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Tony Cooper

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No, a more permanent clamp. Often used to hold the tailpipe up on the
frame of a vehicle. Tightened with nuts.

Another clamp is the "head clamp" used by early studio photographers
to keep the subject's head from moving (and blurring) because exposure
times were slow:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c1/fc/44/c1fc44f145dc59a966513600ed3f6d73.jpg

https://ddelosrios.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/head-clamp-2.jpg

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Lewis

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In message <GeWdnb0eip8CThrK...@giganews.com>
Tony944 <to...@seput.com> wrote:
> "James Wilkinson" wrote in message news:op.ykj4a...@red.lan...

> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp?
> Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?

> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html

I've only ever heard those called C-clamps here in the US.

> You mean you don't know!!! "G" clamp is Female and "C" clamp is male



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Ouch! I always thought a head clamp was to hold the flash gun head or something.

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:38:37 +0100, <cl...@snyder.on.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:24:47 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
>
>> On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
>>> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
>>> sleeping on top of each other.
>
> Same useage as here

Stop replying to me if you've killfiled me.

>> That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
>> don't know that could put my hands on an example.
>>
>> I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
>> cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
>> see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".
> I worked with a slew of Limeys in Zambia - several were from
> Liverpool, one was actually a Scott - and another was a Cockney. And
> then there was an Orangeman as well. half of them used "cramp" instead
> of "clamp" for holding something in place with clamps or straps. And
> the Orangeman wouldn't have known a clamp if it was tightened on his
> --- ear.

The Irish are all stupid. I understand there's a lot of Irish blood in the USA....

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Isn't that rather limited?

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 03:13:46 +0100, Mike Duffy <mqduf...@bell.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:15:46 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote:
>
>> We don't use cramp as a verb.
>
> We do. It's an intransitive verb that is usually only actioned by
> musculature:
>
> - Due to the cold, my fist cramped closed.
> - Don't yawn too hard or your digastricus might cramp.
>
> I suppose that it is also correct to designate 'to cramp' a transitive
> verb which requires musculature as a direct object. It is possible to
> deliberately cramp a muscle, but normally this is not done due to the
> pain involved.

I'd forgotten about muscles, because for some reason I never get cramps.

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In article <4ec0f736-a743-41db...@googlegroups.com>,
I've read it in this newsgroup. I haven't heard it anywhere.
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James Wilkinson

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:52:10 +0100, Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 7/13/16 8:13 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 01:15:46 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>
>>> We don't use cramp as a verb.
>>
>> We do. It's an intransitive verb that is usually only actioned by
>> musculature:
>>
>> - Due to the cold, my fist cramped closed.
>> - Don't yawn too hard or your digastricus might cramp.
>>
>> I suppose that it is also correct to designate 'to cramp' a transitive
>> verb which requires musculature as a direct object. It is possible to
>> deliberately cramp a muscle, but normally this is not done due to the
>> pain involved.
>
> That could be an advantage if the pain is somebody else's. In my
> childhood, boys believed that a punch to the right spot on the upper arm
> or thigh could cause a cramp, called a Charlie horse.
>
> Friend 1: What horse won the Kentucky Derby?
>
> Friend 2: I don't know.
>
> Friend 1 (punches him): Charlie horse!
>
> It hurt, but I never felt or saw it cause a cramp, and anyway we didn't
> use "cramp" as a transitive verb.
>
> "Charlie horse" was discussed in a.u.e. recently. The origin seems to
> be unknown.

We just used Chinese burns. Or a punch on the nose, depending how much you hated the other person.

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:51:11 +0100, CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13/07/2016 6:04 PM, RH Draney wrote:
>> James Wilkinson wrote:
>
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
>> What's that thing under the bathroom sink?...a J trap or a P trap?...r
>
> Is no a trap. Is a Siberian Jamster.

[THWAPP!!!] BASIL!!! Don't intimidate the foreign workers!

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:03:59 +0100, Scott Lurndal <sc...@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

> "James Wilkinson" <inv...@something.com> writes:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
> Wouldn't it be a G-cramp in the UK?

[crosses legs]
I don't wish to imagine how that could happen or how much it would hurt.

> cramp
> kramp/
> noun
> noun: cramp; plural noun: cramps
>
> 1.
> a painful, involuntary contraction of a muscle or muscles, typically caused by fatigue or strain.
> "he suffered severe cramps in his foot"
> synonyms: muscle/muscular spasm, pain, shooting pain, pang, stitch; hyperkinesis
> "stomach cramps"
> North American
> abdominal pain caused by menstruation.
> 2.
> a tool, typically shaped like a capital G, for clamping two objects together for gluing or other work.
> a metal bar with bent ends for holding masonry together.
> noun: cramp-iron

I see cramp and clamp as two seperate ideas. Clamp means thing A is holding thing B together. Cramp means thing A has jammed up.

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On 7/14/2016 3:22 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
> On 07/14/2016 09:35 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.
>
> I have a dictionary from 1934, that defines a "computer" as a person.
>

Well, it was a job performed by people gathering and manipulating
numbers. The electronic version today does nothing that people cannot
do manually, albeit a bit slower.

James Wilkinson

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:51:35 +0100, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:

> On 2016-07-13, RH Draney wrote:
>
>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>
>> What's that thing under the bathroom sink?...a J trap or a P trap?...r
>
>
> Plumber (over the phone): I'll get there as soon as I can. Is it a
> P-trap or an S-trap?
>
> Distressed housewife: Well, I use it for both!

Causing the person replying to post to a different group to what he read it in is childish.

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James Wilkinson

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:29:42 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 13/07/2016 21:53, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>
>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>
> There was a peripatetic brass tutor at my school named Mr G Clamp.

He should have been a woodworking teacher.

There's a bloke called A Prentice round here, he's a tradesman.

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Taxed and Spent <nospam...@nonospam.com> wrote:

> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
> clamp, no.

No G strings, please. He's English.

Mack A. Damia

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Quite right.

Maintain a respectable air.



Charles Bishop

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In article <nfffob54hfkaiu9ei...@4ax.com>,
cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:16:44 -0700, Charles Bishop
> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <tvndobpv0dnoltfkf...@4ax.com>,
> > Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:24:47 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> >> >...
> >> >
> >> >> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
> >> >> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
> >> >> sleeping on top of each other.
> >> >
> >> >That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
> >> >don't know that could put my hands on an example.
> >> >
> >> >I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
> >> >cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
> >> >see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".
> >>
> >> That might surprise a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters
> >> and Joiners of America.
> >
> >There is also a woodworking tool called a "joiner". It's purpose is to
> >give a smooth, straight edge to a piece of wood. I was confused by the
> >name until I realized that with a smooth, straight edge, the piece of
> >wood could be "joined" together with a second piece.
>
> Actually nit is called a "jointer" - short for "jointer plane"
> >
> >A "planer" does the same thing with the wider part of the piece of wood.

Sorry, I did know that, and left out the "t".

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James Wilkinson

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Clare will spank you in due course.

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Tony Cooper

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:36:20 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
<inv...@something.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:04:38 +0100, Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:29:26 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
>> <inv...@something.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 20:00:59 +0100, notX <no.e...@dummy.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/13/2016 04:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>>>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>>>>> clamp, no.
>>>>
>>>> I need a U-clamp.
>>>
>>> More space inside than a C?
>>
>> No, a more permanent clamp. Often used to hold the tailpipe up on the
>> frame of a vehicle. Tightened with nuts.
>>
>> Another clamp is the "head clamp" used by early studio photographers
>> to keep the subject's head from moving (and blurring) because exposure
>> times were slow:
>>
>> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c1/fc/44/c1fc44f145dc59a966513600ed3f6d73.jpg
>>
>> https://ddelosrios.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/head-clamp-2.jpg
>
>Ouch! I always thought a head clamp was to hold the flash gun head or something.

The ones pictured were used before flash guns were invented.

James Wilkinson

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I'm now thinking of something to prevent leakage of a high pressure water system using a tank raised several metres off the ground. Maybe I need more sleep or less drugs.

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James Wilkinson

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:51:20 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On 07/13/2016 06:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 00:38:04 +0100, Frank <"frank "@frank.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/13/2016 4:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>>
>>> As a Yank my preference is for C clamps and G strings.
>>
>> At once?
>>
>
> Something has to hold the G string in place...

I could post some very disgusting links here.

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James Wilkinson

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:50:05 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On 07/13/2016 06:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally
>> we'd say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small
>> we're sleeping on top of each other.
>
> I can't help it if something cramps your style.

I would never say such a girly thing.

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On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 02:43:08 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

> On 07/13/2016 02:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
> C clamp, G string. Don't confuse the two. I'll admit the C clamps
> usually look more like G's.

Look up BDSM and learn they are interchangeable.

Tak To

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Jul 14, 2016, 9:20:23 PM7/14/16
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On 7/13/2016 5:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>
>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>
> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
> clamp, no.

C-string (the clothing kind) is somewhat like a C-clamp.

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On 7/14/2016 10:35 AM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/14/2016 7:16 AM, Charles Bishop wrote:
>> In article <tvndobpv0dnoltfkf...@4ax.com>,
>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:24:47 -0500, dpb <no...@non.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/13/2016 7:15 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> We don't. Do you mean crimp? We don't use cramp as a verb. Normally we'd
>>>>> say something like "this tent is cramped", meaning it's so small we're
>>>>> sleeping on top of each other.
>>>>
>>>> That surprises me to hear--I _know_ I've heard/seen the usage altho I
>>>> don't know that could put my hands on an example.
>>>>
>>>> I remember getting a kick when last over there of the sign for a
>>>> cabinetmaker's shop of "Joinery for Purpose"...not a phrase one would
>>>> see over here; it'd just be "Custom-built" or "Custom-made".
>>>
>>> That might surprise a member of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters
>>> and Joiners of America.
>>
>> There is also a woodworking tool called a "joiner". It's purpose is to
>> give a smooth, straight edge to a piece of wood. I was confused by the
>> name until I realized that with a smooth, straight edge, the piece of
>> wood could be "joined" together with a second piece.
>>
>> A "planer" does the same thing with the wider part of the piece of wood.
>
> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.

There is a kind of tool called a jointer, which is like
a planer; and there is a kind of tool called a joiner,
aka a biscuit joiner, which is used to cut high precision
slots for a "biscuit join".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNd7I4OiOf8

rbowman

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Jul 14, 2016, 10:39:52 PM7/14/16
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On 07/14/2016 08:47 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 07:35:33 -0700, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>
>> A joiner is a person. A jointer is a tool.
>
> What do you call the tool who passes out joints?
>

Yo, dude!

rbowman

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On 07/14/2016 01:24 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>
> But playing a guitar while clamping would be difficult.

That's where the capo comes in. Watch out for those Bill Russel Double
Action Capos.

rbowman

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Jul 14, 2016, 10:56:04 PM7/14/16
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On 07/14/2016 03:30 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> The Irish are all stupid. I understand there's a lot of Irish blood in
> the USA....

They were smart enough to kick the fucking Brits out and set an example
for all the rest of the British colonies to follow.

RH Draney

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On 7/14/2016 6:20 PM, Tak To wrote:
> On 7/13/2016 5:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>> clamp, no.
>
> C-string (the clothing kind) is somewhat like a C-clamp.

Entry in one of the contests that used to run in the Magazine of Fantasy
& Science Fiction: "My parents went to the planet of asymmetrical
people and all I got was this lousy F-shirt"....r

Peter Moylan

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On 2016-Jul-14 07:23, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 13/07/16 22:03, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>>
>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>> clamp, no.
>
> I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
> another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.
>
Two cases of E-clampsia, then.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Peter Moylan

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Jul 15, 2016, 3:29:37 AM7/15/16
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On 2016-Jul-14 23:03, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> "James Wilkinson" <inv...@something.com> writes:
>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>
> Wouldn't it be a G-cramp in the UK?
>
> cramp
> kramp/
> noun
> noun: cramp; plural noun: cramps
>
> 1.
> a painful, involuntary contraction of a muscle or muscles, typically caused by fatigue or strain.
> "he suffered severe cramps in his foot"
> synonyms: muscle/muscular spasm, pain, shooting pain, pang, stitch; hyperkinesis
> "stomach cramps"
> North American
> abdominal pain caused by menstruation.
> 2.
> a tool, typically shaped like a capital G, for clamping two objects together for gluing or other work.
> a metal bar with bent ends for holding masonry together.
> noun: cramp-iron
>
See also crampon, the climber's tool.

James Wilkinson

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Jul 15, 2016, 1:29:26 PM7/15/16
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Or tampon.... no that doesn't fit.

James Wilkinson

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Jul 15, 2016, 1:30:14 PM7/15/16
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:38:56 +0100, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 2016-Jul-14 07:23, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 13/07/16 22:03, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>>
>>>
>>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>>> clamp, no.
>>
>> I use an E clamp, an A clamp, a D clamp, a G clamp, a B clamp, and then
>> another E clamp, two octaves higher than the first.
>>
> Two cases of E-clampsia, then.

So the ladies liked the music?

James Wilkinson

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Jul 15, 2016, 1:32:20 PM7/15/16
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 02:20:20 +0100, Tak To <ta...@alum.mit.eduxx> wrote:

> On 7/13/2016 5:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>> On 7/13/2016 1:53 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> I've always called this a G clamp in the UK, do Americans all say C
>>> clamp? Or is there a subtle difference in the shape?
>>>
>>> http://www.accordbenchvices.com/gclamp-cclamp.html
>>
>> C clamp here. Never heard the term G clamp. G string, sure. But G
>> clamp, no.
>
> C-string (the clothing kind) is somewhat like a C-clamp.

Those are good for pissing someone off who says nudity isn't allowed somewhere.

--
Peter is listening to Eric Clapton - Layla

James Wilkinson

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Jul 15, 2016, 1:33:05 PM7/15/16
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N.Ireland is ours.

--
Interesting fact number 923:
Half the world's population has seen at least one Bond movie.

rbowman

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Jul 15, 2016, 11:24:06 PM7/15/16
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On 07/15/2016 11:32 AM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 03:57:39 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/14/2016 03:30 PM, James Wilkinson wrote:
>>> The Irish are all stupid. I understand there's a lot of Irish blood in
>>> the USA....
>>
>> They were smart enough to kick the fucking Brits out and set an example
>> for all the rest of the British colonies to follow.
>
> N.Ireland is ours.
>

Only because the Ulster Scot Presbyterian Pricks prevailed. Enjoy it
while you can. With Brexit swallowing their pride and uniting with the
Republic looks better and better. Instead of being a third world
shithole Belfast might even become as prosperous as Dublin.

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Jul 16, 2016, 6:01:38 AM7/16/16
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Have you visited Belfast recently?

I live about 7 miles from the centre.

Please don't judge Belfast by the scenes in the TV show "Game of
Thrones" which is made mainly in a studio in Belfast and in various
locations in Northern Ireland.


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
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