Your dictionary does. It's under the b's, toward the end of them.
Without reference to a dictionary I am fairly sure it's one of those
words imported from the Indian subcontinent in the days of the British
Raj. A more interesting question is: who invented the term "bungaloid
growth" to describe the spread of unattractive suburbs (probably around
London)?
I thought it came from the Indian subcontinent too, and in fact my edition
of Webster's says 'Anglo-Ind; Hind bangla, thatched house, lit., belonging
to Bengal.' (I can't get the accents in 'bangla'.)
But 'bungaloid growth'? That's new to me, but seems appropriate for the
type of boring subdivision which I imagine London, and most large cities,
to be surrounded by.
I'm looking for a phrase for monster houses on tiny lots. A number of them
have been built here lately by people who seem to want large, pretentious
houses without bothering with the estate which they would seem to require.
I can't even describe them without snickering, but they are certainly
popular. The only justification I have yet heard for this is 'We don't
want a garden because we are allergic to plants.'.
Is there a phrase for a pseudo-castle built with its windows inches from
the next pseudo-castle? I wouldn't have thought so, but I had never heard
of bungaloid growth until tonight.
Cheryl
--
Cheryl Perkins
cper...@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca
|But 'bungaloid growth'? That's new to me, but seems appropriate for the
|type of boring subdivision which I imagine London, and most large cities,
|to be surrounded by.
_Old House Journal_ seems to have coined the term "bungaloid",
at least to refer to a classic 20s and 30s bungalow which has
been "remuddled" into something awful. "Remuddling" is another
of their terms. OHJ has also coined the term "American
Foursquare" to define a style of house architecture from the
early part of this century -- four squarish rooms to a floor (or
three squarish rooms and a stair hall) all tucked into a nearly
square footprint of about 30 x 30 feet; the attic windows tend
to be bungalow-style dormers.
[...]
|Is there a phrase for a pseudo-castle built with its windows inches from
|the next pseudo-castle?
Z-shaped lot comes close. This allows a house with lots of juts
but next to no side yard.
--
Mark Odegard.
My real address doesn't include a Christian name.
Emailed copies of responses are very much appreciated.
>Is there a phrase for a pseudo-castle built with its windows inches from
>the next pseudo-castle?
They're just building castles in each other's 'air.
Lee Rudolph
Last time I looked, it was the pricier suburbs of Atlanta, where the
"chateaux style" of American residential architecture has reached its,
um, er, zenith?
--
Truly Donovan
reply to truly at lunemere dot com
Probably not, since London's suburban growth consists almost entirely of
two-storey houses, not bungalows.
--
-- Mike Barnes, Stockport, England.
-- If you post a response to Usenet, please *don't* send me a copy by e-mail.
|Probably not, since London's suburban growth consists almost entirely of
|two-storey houses, not bungalows.
A bungalow is a representative of an architectural style of
domestic architecture that became popular in the early part of
this century. It tends to be mixed in with the "arts and crafts"
style, but has a number of features which set it apart from
other styles. Once you have had the salient features pointed
out, you'll never mistake them for what they are.
Bungalows tend to have steeply pitched roofs with
slant-ceilinged bedrooms tucked underneath. The roofline usually
includes a large front porch usually running the full length of
the house, i.e., the porch is incorporated in the main roofline
(and is thus probably better called a verandah). The upper floor
windows tend to be on the side, at the gable end, but there is
usually a two-window dormer centered at the front.
Bungalows do not always have two storeys, but most of them do,
at least as a "full" attic.
I believe that this term was originally coined to describe the unplanned
housing developments which disfigured the English south coast between
the wars. Most of them are still there, looking even tattier now than
they did when first built. Bungalows were a favoured form because many
of those buying property on the coast, then as now, were retired people
who thought the time would soon come when they would no longer be able
to manage stairs.
Incidentally, in Singapore English "bungalow" is not restricted to a
one-story building, as it is in BrEng, but applies to any largish house
in its own grounds. Does anyone know if that was also Anglo-Indian
usage?
--
John Davies (jo...@redwoods.demon.co.uk)
Anyway, this followup is a total change of topic. I note that
marko...@ptel.net (Mark Odegard) writes:
>Once you have had the salient features pointed
>out, you'll never mistake them for what they are.
and wonder if this is an idiom I've missed learning, a one-off
error of Mark's, an Irish bull, or what? (I assume, from the
context which I've snipped, that what he meant to say is what
I'd try to convey with a form of words more like "you'll never
mistake them for anything else".)
Lee Rudolph
>A bungalow is a representative of an architectural style of
>domestic architecture that became popular in the early part of
>this century. It tends to be mixed in with the "arts and crafts"
>style, but
Surely you mean the "Craftsman Style," which originated in Southern
California and was popular in the west from the late nineteenth
century to about 1920. There are some marvellous examples in Denver.
<snip>
> Bungalows tend to have steeply pitched roofs with
> slant-ceilinged bedrooms tucked underneath. The roofline usually
> includes a large front porch usually running the full length of
> the house, i.e., the porch is incorporated in the main roofline
> (and is thus probably better called a verandah). The upper floor
> windows tend to be on the side, at the gable end, but there is
> usually a two-window dormer centered at the front.
>
> Bungalows do not always have two storeys, but most of them do,
> at least as a "full" attic.
My wife and I lived for a couple of years in a Sears Bungalow. In the
early decades of this century. Sears, Roebuck & Co. sold entire houses
out of their catalog. They were customarily delivered (in sections,
obviously) by rail to the nearest plausible drop-off point, then trucked
to the construction site. Ours was in northern Arlington County,
Virginia, and had been erected around 1920. It may originally have
served as a getaway for someone living in Washington, DC, about three
miles away across the Potomac River. It had all the characteristics
described by Mark Odegard, as well as some truly wonderful wooden trim
inside and out. Unfortunately, it was too small for our needs, and the
local banks didn't want to lend us what we needed in order to expand and
refurbish it. The person who purchased it from us had more ready cash
and did an excellent job with it.
I understand that Sears Bungalows are on their way to becoming perhaps
the largest "collectibles" in the U.S., with clubs, books, newsletters,
etc., devoted to them.
Bob Lieblich
|Surely you mean the "Craftsman Style," which originated in Southern
|California and was popular in the west from the late nineteenth
|century to about 1920. There are some marvellous examples in Denver.
Yes, but I include in it the arts and crafts movement set off by
William Morris et al. _The Craftsman_ was a magazine (and now a
pricey collector's item) that encouraged this style. Bungalows
are generally in the Craftsman style, but not all examples of
this style are bungalows (e.g., Prairie School houses).
|Anyway, this followup is a total change of topic. I note that
|marko...@ptel.net (Mark Odegard) writes:
|
|>Once you have had the salient features pointed
|>out, you'll never mistake them for what they are.
|
|and wonder if this is an idiom I've missed learning, a one-off
|error of Mark's, an Irish bull, or what? (I assume, from the
|context which I've snipped, that what he meant to say is what
|I'd try to convey with a form of words more like "you'll never
|mistake them for anything else".)
Mea culpa. I looked at it before I posted it, and it seemed just
fine, if a little convoluted. Post in haste, repent at leisure.
"Bungaloid prose" is an especially apropos characterization
here.
--
Mark Odegard
My real address doesn't include a Christian name.
Emailed copies of responses are very much appreciated.
The Johnson sig below is has been brought back to defeat my ISP's recent decision to enforce the rule that quoted material cannot exceed new material.
The great orthographical contest has long subsisted between
etymology and pronunciation. It has been demanded, on one hand,
that men should write as they speak; but, as it has been shown
that this conformity never was attained in any language, and
that it is not more easy to persuade men to agree exactly in
speaking than in writing, it may be asked, with equal propriety,
why men do not rather speak as they write.
-- Samuel Johnson, "The Plan of an English Dictionary" (1747).
PM<ca> Anyone know where the word bungalow (single storey house)
PM<ca> comes from ? "Bung a low roof on it" jokes will not amuse.
British India. From Hindustani "bengla", "belonging to Bengal." (OED)
Go figure.
Gary
Thank god, someone finally took look at the most obvious place, a dictionary.
Good for you Gary.
--
Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens -Schiller-
Is "Sears Bungalow" the recognized name? In its essentials the
house you describe sounds very much like the pre-fabs called
"Sears Craftsman Houses," many of which still stand in the older
parts of Los Angeles.
As I heard it, the company did not ship the houses in "sections,"
which implies perhaps that the kitchen and dining room showed up
at the building site as finished modules. Instead the houses came
in broken-down form; their major architectural elements arrived
already joined and everything else was cut to make precise fits.
The kits included everything needed to put together one complete
house. They have a distinctive style: very solid-looking, with a
spacious porch, massive fascia rafters and equally heavy rafters
visible under the deep eaves. Beautiful things; wish we owned one.
"Craftsman" is also the brand name Sears gives to its own line of
tools.
--- NM
Mailed copies of replies always appreciated. (Mailers: drop HINTS.)
The Sears Bungalow is a sub-species of the Craftsman House. Its
distinguishing characteristics are those described by Mark Odegard in
his earlier post. The term is quite common around Arlington, VA, no
doubt in part because so many of the Sears houses there are bungalows,
but I have seen and heard it elsewhere.
I snipped the remainder of NMs post. To the extent it is inconsistent
with the part of mine I also snipped, I defer to him.
Bob Lieblich
Stephanie M on the other side of the other pond
I lived in a house in Danbury, Connecticut for a couple of years that
matched that description. It was known, however, as an "A-Frame."
Bob
Huge difference in look. An A-frame is a rough version of a
Swiss chalet. The pitch of the roof is far more drastic; you
have at least *two* floors incorporated into the roof, and
sometimes three.
Think about it. The more snow you have, the higher you build.
You have to have a roof that both sheds and withstands tons of
snow. The sharper your roof angle, the more floors you have.
Efficient houses in heavy snow country are tall and narrow. Ever
stayed in a private house in Switzerland?
--
Mark Odegard.
>Robert Lieblich wrote:
>-----
>> My wife and I lived for a couple of years in a Sears Bungalow. In the
>> early decades of this century. Sears, Roebuck & Co. sold entire houses
>> out of their catalog. They were customarily delivered (in sections,
>> obviously) by rail to the nearest plausible drop-off point, [...]
>>
>> I understand that Sears Bungalows are on their way to becoming perhaps
>> the largest "collectibles" in the U.S., with clubs, books, newsletters,
>> etc., devoted to them.
>>.....
>
>Is "Sears Bungalow" the recognized name? In its essentials the
>house you describe sounds very much like the pre-fabs called
>"Sears Craftsman Houses," many of which still stand in the older
>parts of Los Angeles.
Sears may have produced Craftsmans, but not all Craftsmans are Sears.
Many of them have stone faces, which I doubt you get from Sears.
There are several specific identifying features of Craftsmans that
even I, amateur student of American residential architecture, can
always pick out, such as the projecting roof supports and the sturdy
fat columns, often tapered, on the front porch.
I had the pleasure of telling one Craftsman owner about his own house
-- he was delighted to discover it had a name and a place in American
history.
I think I see where the confusion is coming from. Viewed from the other
side of the pond, "around London" and "the south coast" might seem like
more-or-less the same place. In normal British usage, they're most
certainly not.
Bungaloid growth is a notable feature of many south-coast (and, to a
lesser extent, other-coast) towns, but not of Wembley or most other
areas around London.
The US bungalow is clearly different to the British one. In Britain a
bungalow is simply a single-storey house.
>Hi Phil!
>
>PM<ca> Anyone know where the word bungalow (single storey house)
> PM<ca> comes from ? "Bung a low roof on it" jokes will not amuse.
>
>British India. From Hindustani "bengla", "belonging to Bengal." (OED)
>
>Go figure.
You may be interested in the entry for "bungalow" in *Hobson-Jobson,
The Anglo-Indian Dictionary* (first published in 1886 and reissued by
Wordsworth Editions Ltd in 1996 for the ridiculous price of £2. ISBN
1-85326-363-X).
The spelling "story" is as used in the original.
===begins=====
BUNGALOW, s. H. and Mahr. /bangla/. The most usual class of house
occupied by Europeans in the interior of India ; being on one story,
and covered by a pyramidal roof, which in the normal bungalow is of
thatch, but may be of tiles without impairing its title to be called a
/bungalow/. Most of the houses of officers in Indian cantonments are
of this character. In reference to the style of the house, /bungalow/
is sometimes employed in contradistinction to the (usually more
pretentious) /pucka house/ ; by which latter term is implied a masonry
house with a terraced roof. A /bungalow/ may also be a small building
of the type which we have described, but of temporary material, in a
garden, on a terraced roof for sleeping in, &c., &c. The word has
also been adopted by the French in the East, and by Europeans
generally in Ceylon, China, Japan, and the coast of Africa.
Wilson writes the word /bangla/, giving it as a Bengali word, and as
probably derived from /Banga/, Bengal. This is fundamentally the
etymology mentioned by Bp. Heber in his /Journal/ [...], and that
etymology is corroborated by our first quotation, from a native
historian, as well as by that from F. Buchanan. It is to be
remembered that in Hindustan proper the adjective 'of or belonging to
Bengal' is constantly pronounced as /bangala/ or /bangla/. Thus one
of the eras used in E. India is distinguished as the /Bangla/ era.
The probability is that, when Europeans began to build houses of this
character in Behar and Upper India, these were called /Bangla/ or
'Bengal-fashion' houses ; that the name was adopted by the Europeans
themselves and their followers, and so was brought back to Bengal
itself, as well as carried to other parts of India. ["In Bengal, and
notably in the districts near Calcutta, native houses to this day are
divided into /ath-chala/, /chau-chala/, and /Bangala/, or
eight-roofed, four-roofed, and Bengali, or common huts. The first
term does not imply that the roof has eight coverings, but that the
roof has four distinct sides with four more projections, so as to
cover a verandah all round the house, which is square. The /Bangala/,
or Bengali house, or /bungalow/ has a sloping roof on two sides and
two gable ends. Doubtless the term was taken up by the first settlers
in Bengal from the native style of edifice, was materially improved,
and was thence carried to other parts of India. It is not necessary
to assume that the first bungalows were erected in Behar." (/Saturday
Rev/., 17th April 1886, in a review of the first ed. of this book).]
[snip many, many quotations]
===ends=====
There is a separate entry for DAWK BUNGALOW; details available on
request.
bjg
I have friends in Edinburgh, who recently moved to a suburb they call
'bungalowland'. I don't think that is the official name for the area,
but it certainly has lots of bungalows.
Fran
I recall that bungalows sometimes had extra rooms added in the roof, and
then were sold as - I think - 'chalet bungalows'. Very large one-story
houses were known as ranch-style bungalows.
Over here in Connecticut, in real-estate speak, a ranch-house is any one
story house. Those little houses with rooms in the attic seem to be
known as Cape-Cods.
I have no idea what houses on the real Cape Cod are like. Despite having
lived in New England for twelve years, I have never been to Cape Cod.
Fran
In the US Midwest, these are known as "airplane bungalows," because the
extra upper room is invariably added at the back of the house, thus
making the house's profile look vaguely like an airplane.
--
Max Thomsen
> On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:59:19 GMT, marko...@ptel.net (Mark Odegard)
> wrote:
>
> >A bungalow is a representative of an architectural style of
> >domestic architecture that became popular in the early part of
> >this century. It tends to be mixed in with the "arts and crafts"
> >style, but
>
> Surely you mean the "Craftsman Style," which originated in Southern
> California and was popular in the west from the late nineteenth
> century to about 1920. There are some marvellous examples in Denver.
I looked up that bit about Craftsman houses *originating* in Southern
California, as I had assumed they were part of that Prairie/Chicago
movement, and I found you are right. From page 454 of "The Field Guide
to American Houses" by Virginia & Lee McAlester (Knopf 1984), which I
can recomend as a delightful and informative book that is still in
print:
---BEGIN QUOTE
"Craftsman houses were inspired primarily by the work of two California
brothers -- Charles Sumner Greene and Henry Mather Greene -- who
practiced together in Pasadena from 1893 to 1914. About 1903 they began
to design simple Craftsman-type bungalows... Several influences -- the
English Arts and Crafts movement, an interest in oriental wooden
architecture, and their early training in the manual arts -- appear to
have led the Greenes to design and build these intricately detailed
buildings. These and similar residences were given extensive publicity
in such magazines as the Western Architect, The Architect, House
Beautiful [snip long list.] ...thus familiarizing the rest of the nation
with the style. As a result a flood of pattern books appeared, offering
plans for Craftsman bungalows; some even offered completely pre-cut
packages of lumber and detailing to be assembled by local labor. Through
these vehicles, the one-story Craftsman house quickly became the most
popular and fashionable smaller house in the country... One-story
vernacular examples are often called simply bungalows or the Bungaloid
style."
---END QUOTE
The house we lived in in Boston is a Craftsman. I think it was built in
1920. Someone pointed out that its built-in bookcases and cabinets are
typical details of the style, as are the diamond pane windows on each
side of the stone chimney. The 1996 movie Multiplicity was set in a
Craftsman house.
One important point to emphasize from the above is that only a small
percentage of Craftsman houses were actually kits from Sears. It was the
name of a kind of house, and Sears did sell kits, and it's true that now
Craftsman is *now* a brand name of theirs, but it is false to think they
somehow had exclusive control of the term during the time that so many
of these houses were built.
Oh yes, you asked about the difference between the Arts and Crafts
Movement and the Craftsman style."The Field Guide to American Houses"
only has one paragraph about the A&C Movement -- that it is the first
part of the Modern era, and is represented in the USA by the Prairie
Style (Chicago, Frank Lloyd Wright) from 1900-20 and Craftsman from
1905-30. I guess that Carl and Katrina (?) Larsson, the pioneers in
modern Swedish design, would be another example of this movement, but I
don't know who the English representatives are. The book says that later
styles in the Modern movement are the Machine Age, Modernistic, and
International.
Best wishes --- Donna Richoux
> _Old House Journal_ seems to have coined the term "bungaloid",
> at least to refer to a classic 20s and 30s bungalow which has
> been "remuddled" into something awful. "Remuddling" is another
> of their terms. OHJ has also coined the term "American
> Foursquare" to define a style of house architecture from the
> early part of this century -- four squarish rooms to a floor (or
> three squarish rooms and a stair hall) all tucked into a nearly
> square footprint of about 30 x 30 feet; the attic windows tend
> to be bungalow-style dormers.
Both "bungaloid" and "American Foursquare" are used in "The Field Guide
to American Houses," Virginia & Lee McAlester (Knopf 1984) as if they
are long-accepted terms. I don't know how old is the "Old House Journal"
you refer to, but it may well be drawing on the same body of knowledge.
I really like this book - it is filled chockablock not only with photos
but with little labeled drawings showing each feature and possible
combinations of floorplan and rooflines and so on, for every style of
house in the US. The first time I studied this for a while and walked
around my neighborhood, I *saw* things I never had *names* for before.
Hipped roofs! Gable fronts! Shed dormers! Knee braces! Exposed rafters!
A real eye-opener. There must be some basic connection between
observation and naming.
I noticed the book was still for sale this last summer in Harvard
Square.
>Truly Donovan <tru...@ibm.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:59:19 GMT, marko...@ptel.net (Mark Odegard)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >A bungalow is a representative of an architectural style of
>> >domestic architecture that became popular in the early part of
>> >this century. It tends to be mixed in with the "arts and crafts"
>> >style, but
>>
>> Surely you mean the "Craftsman Style," which originated in Southern
>> California and was popular in the west from the late nineteenth
>> century to about 1920. There are some marvellous examples in Denver.
>
>I looked up that bit about Craftsman houses *originating* in Southern
>California, as I had assumed they were part of that Prairie/Chicago
>movement, and I found you are right. From page 454 of "The Field Guide
>to American Houses" by Virginia & Lee McAlester (Knopf 1984), which I
>can recomend as a delightful and informative book that is still in
>print:
Of course I was right. I read it in the same book.