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Hotdog

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Sep 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/3/99
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Is Corel pronounced same as coral? and what could corel be?

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Larry Phillips

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Hotdog wrote:
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> Is Corel pronounced same as coral?

No.

> and what could corel be?

No idea. 'Corel', however, is a company.

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Markus Laker

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Hot...@sidewalk.com (Hotdog) wrote:

> Is Corel pronounced same as coral?

No. I once saw a training video produced by Corel, and the company name
was pronounced /k@ 'rEl/.

Markus

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Steffen Bühler

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Markus Laker wrote:

I once saw a training video produced by Corel, and the company name
was pronounced /k@ 'rEl/.

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In Germany, everyone I know stresses the first syllable. This holds for
Microsoft's "Excel", too, whereas "Access" is pronounced with stress on the
second syllable. Even people with fluent English do it. I can't think of the
reason.
Best regards,
Steffen

Stephen Toogood

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In article <YJNz3.6$_h3.68@client>, Steffen Bühler <steffen.buehler@pruf
technik.com> writes

Can't you?

It's just a very proper unwillingness to roll over in front of
commercial interest. You find out how 'They' want to pronounce it, then
you use your ingenuity to devise a pronunciation that is as far away
from that as possible while remaining plausible.

So Coral it is.

EXcel I like, and will use from henceforth. Makes it sound like a doomed
Ford car, which is somehow comforting. This microSOFT stuff will never
catch on, you know...

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Larry Phillips

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Sep 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/4/99
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Mimi Kahn wrote:

> So how do you pronounce Intel?

I hear it stressed on the second syllable about as often as I hear it
stressed on the first syllable. I stress the first.

Bertel Lund Hansen

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Mimi Kahn skrev:

>>stressed on the first syllable. I stress the first.

>So, I believe, does the company

I always thought that it was short for "intelligent" (I still
do), so I was sure that the stress should be on the second
syllable.

Bertel
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Markus Laker

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nj...@spamfree.cornell.edu (Mimi Kahn) wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 02:47:09 GMT, Larry Phillips <lar...@home.com>
> wrote:

[About 'Intel']

> >I hear it stressed on the second syllable about as often as I hear it

> >stressed on the first syllable. I stress the first.

> So, I believe, does the company, but I got in the habit of stressing
> the second. And the slogan "Intel Inside" seems to lead one down that
> path.

Over here, 'Intel' always has first-syllable stress -- even in the
company's toe-curlingly gee-whiz adverts for the Pentium processor.

Jitze Couperus

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In article <sjXQN2tPIi7Qcu...@4ax.com>,
nj...@spamfree.cornell.edu wrote:

>
> And how will you bastardize Photoshop?
>

I have for some years assumed that it was named in honour of a
certain flatulent Irish store-owner.

Fart O'Shop

Jitze

Larry Phillips

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Sep 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/5/99
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Mimi Kahn wrote:

>> I hear it stressed on the second syllable about as often as I hear it
>> stressed on the first syllable. I stress the first.
>
> So, I believe, does the company, but I got in the habit of stressing
> the second. And the slogan "Intel Inside" seems to lead one down that
> path.

I agree, though I don't always pay attention to the warning labels.

(I have a T-Shirt that says "Intel Insidious".

Larry Phillips

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Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:

<pronunciation of Intel>

> I always thought that it was short for "intelligent" (I still
> do), so I was sure that the stress should be on the second
> syllable.

Back in the late 70s, one of my .sigs said

Intel CPU? No! I said 'intelligent CPU'!
-- Anonymous IBM engineer

cosmo...@webtv.net

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The easiest way to determine how a business name is said, is to call the
company. I used this system to convince a friend that Data General, is
pronounced Day-tuh.


Richard Fontana

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That isn't always reliable. I once worked for a company where the name of
the company was pronounced in two different ways by the employees of the
company. This was a fairly well-known British company, and the name of the
company was ultimately derived from the founder's surname, I believe.
One of the pronunciations used in the American offices was in fact more
correct, since it coincided with the standard pronunciation of the company's
name in Britain. But you wouldn't necessarily be able to figure this out
from calling their American offices, where the other pronunciation
was probably more common, and was in fact the one used by me when dealing
with customers of the company on the telephone.


Richard

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In article <slrn7t57fj...@localhost.localdomain>,
re...@cunix.columbia.edu (Richard Fontana) wrote:

Yes, I have noticed that in the U. S., you can equip your car with
Mish-uh-lun tires, but elsewhere, you buy Mitch-ih-lin tyres.

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TsuiDF

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Baffles me that Nike (the sports shoe company) seems to call itself
'Nike' with a silent 'e' in the UK.

It doesn't in the US, does it?

Stephanie M in M20

Richard Fontana

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TsuiDF sez:
> Baffles me that Nike (the sports shoe company) seems to call itself
> 'Nike' with a silent 'e' in the UK.
>
> It doesn't in the US, does it?

In the US the 'e' is pronounced. It rhymes with "Mikey".


RF

Bertel Lund Hansen

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cosmo...@webtv.net skrev:

>The easiest way to determine how a business name is said, is to call the
>company.

I have a book on rhyming slang. It starts with a story of how the
writer phoned a company that was presented to him in the phone as
"ham jam". He tried several times and it was not just garbled by
the telephone. I even believe he spoke to the telephone girls
later.

... Oh the company? It was MGM.

Matt Gibson

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In article <37D2C2...@mcmail.com>, sj...@mcmail.com says...

> Baffles me that Nike (the sports shoe company) seems to call itself
> 'Nike' with a silent 'e' in the UK.

Do they? I seem to remember people calling them Nike (without the 'e')
at school, but everyone I know pronounces it properly these days. Was
Nike a Greek goddess, by the way, or is my non-classical education
letting me down again?

M

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Pierre Jelenc

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Mimi Kahn <nj...@spamfree.cornell.edu> writes:
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> *Are* they French? I'll go look for the documentation that came with
> the Michelins I have on my car, which I think is in the glove
> compartment. Later....

Sure they are; the tyres that made Clermont-Ferrand famous.

Pierre
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Charles Riggs

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On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:57:38 -0400 (EDT), cosmo...@webtv.net wrote:

>The easiest way to determine how a business name is said, is to call the

>company. I used this system to convince a friend that Data General, is
>pronounced Day-tuh.

Wouldn't it be Day-tuh Gen-rel?

Charles Riggs

Mark Brader

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Sep 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/6/99
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In response to:

>> I used this system to convince a friend that Data General, is
>> pronounced Day-tuh.

Charles Riggs writes:
> Wouldn't it be Day-tuh Gen-rel?

Or Day-tuh Gen-er-al? Certainly it needs that syllable if the famous
Gilbert and Sullivan parody by Stephen Levine# is to scan correctly.

# - One copy is at <http://www.finifter.com/tracy/fun/data-general.html>.
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Charles Riggs

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On 6 Sep 1999 02:51:24 -0400, msbr...@interlog.com (Mark Brader)
wrote:

>In response to:
>>> I used this system to convince a friend that Data General, is
>>> pronounced Day-tuh.
>
>Charles Riggs writes:
>> Wouldn't it be Day-tuh Gen-rel?
>
>Or Day-tuh Gen-er-al? Certainly it needs that syllable if the famous
>Gilbert and Sullivan parody by Stephen Levine# is to scan correctly.

Would it then be a Modern Major Data Gen-er-al?

Charles Riggs

Anandashankar Mazumdar

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Sep 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/7/99
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In article <slrn7t57fj...@localhost.localdomain>,
re...@cunix.columbia.edu (Richard Fontana) wrote:

> That isn't always reliable. I once worked for a company where the
> name of the company was pronounced in two different ways by the
> employees of the company. This was a fairly well-known British
> company, and the name of the company was ultimately derived from the
> founder's surname, I believe. One of the pronunciations used in the
> American offices was in fact more correct, since it coincided with
> the standard pronunciation of the company's name in Britain. But you
> wouldn't necessarily be able to figure this out from calling their
> American offices, where the other pronunciation was probably more
> common, and was in fact the one used by me when dealing with
> customers of the company on the telephone.

Oof! You've got me at the edge of my seat. What _is_ the name of
the bloody company? Are you afraid that revealing this pronunciation
disagreement will expose you to liability for defamation? How are we to
discuss usage if the word under discussion is a secret?

Ananda


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Larry Phillips

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Sep 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/8/99
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Charles Riggs wrote:
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> Would it then be a Modern Major Data Gen-er-al?

The very model of.

Henry McGilton

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Hot...@sidewalk.com (Hotdog) wrote:

* Is Corel pronounced same as coral?
No --- it's usually pronounced with the emphasis on the
'rel'.

* and what could corel be?
The founder and chairman of Corel is Dr. Michael Cowpland.
The name Corel is a contraction of
COwpland REsearch Laboratories

Cheers,
........ Henry

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fyac...@gmail.com

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On Friday, September 3, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Hotdog wrote:
> Is Corel pronounced same as coral? and what could corel be?
>
> --

A good way to find out is to call the company as they will state their name and you can hear how it is pronounced. I did so and the pronunciation is 'Core Rell' with the emphasis on 'Rell'. And...now we know. (smile)

Peter Moylan

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On 06/08/17 22:45, fyac...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Hotdog wrote:
>> Is Corel pronounced same as coral? and what could corel be?
>
> A good way to find out is to call the company as they will state their name and you can hear how it is pronounced. I did so and the pronunciation is 'Core Rell' with the emphasis on 'Rell'. And...now we know. (smile)

I'll probably continue to say "coral", on the grounds that it's easy to
pronounce.

Oh, wait, zombie thread. Forget that I said anything.

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Tony Cooper

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On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 00:18:04 +1000, Peter Moylan
<pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 06/08/17 22:45, fyac...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, September 3, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Hotdog wrote:
>>> Is Corel pronounced same as coral? and what could corel be?
>>
>> A good way to find out is to call the company as they will state their name and you can hear how it is pronounced. I did so and the pronunciation is 'Core Rell' with the emphasis on 'Rell'. And...now we know. (smile)
>
>I'll probably continue to say "coral", on the grounds that it's easy to
>pronounce.
>
I've been using CorelDRAW for many years as my software for vector
work. Along the way I've watched many tutorial videos, and some have
been official Corel training material. Most pronounce it "Core-ell",
but some do add that second "r".

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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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