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Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:19:11 AM4/21/03
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Actual Instructions On Consumer Products
----------------------------------------
(Source: Anon)

On Sears hairdryer: Do not use while sleeping.

On a bag of Fritos chips: You could be a winner! No purchase
necessary. Details inside.

On a bar of Dial soap directions: Use like regular soap.

On some Swanson frozen dinners serving suggestion: Defrost.

On a hotel-provided shower cap in a box: Fits one head.

On Tesco's Tiramisu dessert, printed on bottom of the box:
Do not turn upside down.

On Marks & Spencer Bread Pudding: Product will be hot after heating.

On packaging for a Rowenta iron: Do not iron clothes on body.

On Boot's Children's cough medicine: Do not drive car or
operate machinery.

On Nytol sleep aid: Warning: may cause drowsiness.

On a Korean kitchen knife: Warning keep out of children.

On a string of Chinese-made Christmas lights:
For indoor or outdoor use only.

On a Japanese food processor: Not to be used for the other use.

On Sainsbury's peanuts: Warning: contains nuts.

On an American Airlines packet of nuts:
Instructions: open packet, eat nuts.

On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
with your hands or genitals.

On a child's Superman costume: Wearing of this garment does
not enable you to fly.

On a blanket from Taiwan: Not to be used as
protection from a tornado.

On a helmet-mounted mirror used by U.S. cyclists: Remember,
objects in the mirror are actually behind you.

On a Taiwanese shampoo: Use repeatedly for severe damage.

On the bottle-top of a flavoured U.K. milk drink:
After opening, keep upright.

On a New Zealand insect spray: This product not tested on animals.

In a U.S. guide to setting up a new computer: To avoid
condensation forming, allow the boxes to warm up to room
temperature before opening. (Instructions INSIDE the box.)

On a Japanese product used to relieve painful hemorrhoids:
Lie down on bed and insert Poscool slowly up to the projected
portion like a sword-guard into anal duct. While inserting
Poscool for approximately 5 minutes, keep quiet.

In some countries, on the bottom of Coke bottles:
Open other end.

On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
your favourite breakfast cereal?

On a bottle of Palmolive dishwashing liquid: Do not use on food.

On a tube of Crest Toothpaste: If swallowed contact
poison control.

On a bottle of ALL laundry detergent: Remove clothing before
distributing in washing machine.

On Dentyne they used to put these directions: Put one or
two pieces into your mouth and chew.

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Reinhold (Rey) Aman

mike

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Apr 21, 2003, 7:51:04 AM4/21/03
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This is good :)

mike

Uzytkownik "Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> napisal w wiadomosci
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Dena Jo

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Apr 21, 2003, 10:02:18 AM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:

>> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
>> your favourite breakfast cereal?

That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
up.

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Dena Jo
Killjoy

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R F

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Apr 21, 2003, 11:02:30 AM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003, Dena Jo wrote:

> On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:
>
> >> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
> >> your favourite breakfast cereal?
>
> That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
> up.

I've recently mused about how various drugstore-type items (e.g.,
toothpaste or aspirin) contain warnings that say: "In case of
accidental overdose, contact your nearest Poison Control Center..." and
the like. The word "accidental" or "accidentally" seems to be standard
in such warnings. Does it mean they don't care about people who
intentionally overdose on aspirin or intentionally eat a whole tubeful
of toothpaste? Or are they trying to be polite, pretending to assume
that such overdoses are necessarily going to be the result of accident?

I'd guess that there's some tort-law reason for it. They wouldn't have
any liability for intentional misuse by the consumer, presumably, so
they have no obligation to warn such misusers. Also, if they warn the
intentional misusers, I suppose it could somehow establish some sort of
higher duty of care to that class of users of the product.

Frances Kemmish

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Apr 21, 2003, 11:13:43 AM4/21/03
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I don't know. I just checked the bottle of shampoo I have here ("if
swallowed, get medical help, or contact a Poison Control Center") and a
bottle of Swiss Formula St. Ives Peach Splash Moisturizing Body Wash,
which offers no warnings, but does tell me to "Pour onto moistened pouf".

Fran

Dena Jo

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Apr 21, 2003, 11:32:54 AM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003, R F posted thus:

> I'd guess that there's some tort-law reason for it. They wouldn't
> have any liability for intentional misuse by the consumer,
> presumably, so they have no obligation to warn such misusers.
> Also, if they warn the intentional misusers, I suppose it could
> somehow establish some sort of higher duty of care to that class
> of users of the product.

I just checked the back of my tube of Crest, and what it says is "If
you accidentally swallow *more than used for brushing*, seek
professional help or contact a poison control center immediately"
(emphasis added). I must confess, I was surprised to see the warning
there.

I also checked two bottles of Palmolive. No instructions not to put it
on food.

--
Dena Jo

djarvinen

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Apr 21, 2003, 12:27:28 PM4/21/03
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Dena Jo <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Xns936447C9...@130.133.1.4>...

> On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:
>
> >> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
> >> your favourite breakfast cereal?
>
> That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
> up.

Perhaps, but I have one you can check yourself: On the bottom of the
back label on Frog's Leap Wines (they make a damn fine Chardonney, by
the way), it says "Open Other End". :)

Bob Cunningham

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Apr 21, 2003, 2:44:50 PM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 14:02:18 GMT, Dena Jo
<TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:

>>> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
>>> your favourite breakfast cereal?

>That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
>up.

The one about the sharp knife may have been adapted from an earlier --
supposedly authentic -- list of assembly instructions that came with
Japanese imports: "Knife is sharp. Keep out of children".

Bob Cunningham

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Apr 21, 2003, 2:52:44 PM4/21/03
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This brings to mind a saying that is at least fifty years old and
probably way older: "not smart enough to pour piss out of a boot with
the directions written on the sole".

Actually, I've always heard "heel" rather than "sole", but it hasn't
seemed satisfactory, since the directions could be written on the side
of a heel.

Come to think of it, why would the piss be in the boot in the first
place?

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:06:42 PM4/21/03
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Frances Kemmish wrote:

[...]

> I don't know. I just checked the bottle of shampoo I have here ("if
> swallowed, get medical help, or contact a Poison Control Center") and a
> bottle of Swiss Formula St. Ives Peach Splash Moisturizing Body Wash,
> which offers no warnings, but does tell me to "Pour onto moistened pouf".

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Homophobes are everywhere, right, Mick? Pouring body wash on a poor
poufter, tsk, tsk.

BTW, how does one moisten a pouf, with a golden shower?

--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Some of whose best friends are homosexuals

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:12:09 PM4/21/03
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Bob Cunningham wrote:

[...]

> This brings to mind a saying that is at least fifty years old and
> probably way older: "not smart enough to pour piss out of a boot
> with the directions written on the sole".
>
> Actually, I've always heard "heel" rather than "sole", but it hasn't
> seemed satisfactory, since the directions could be written on the side
> of a heel.
>
> Come to think of it, why would the piss be in the boot in the first
> place?

To pour it onto a pouf?

--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:27:06 PM4/21/03
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Dena Jo wrote:

> On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:

> >> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
> >> your favourite breakfast cereal?

> That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably
> made up.

I don't think so. Most, if not all, sound authentic. My fave:


On a Japanese food processor: Not to be used for the other use.

What other use? Those inscrutable Orientals!

--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Some of whose best friends are Orientals

Ross Howard

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:32:32 PM4/21/03
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:27:06 GMT, "Reinhold (Rey) Aman"
<am...@sonic.net> wrote:

>My fave:
>On a Japanese food processor: Not to be used for the other use.
>
>What other use? Those inscrutable Orientals!

So *that's* what "scrute" means!


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R H Draney

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Apr 21, 2003, 3:34:49 PM4/21/03
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In article <Xns936447C9...@130.133.1.4>, Dena says...

>
>On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:
>
>>> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
>>> your favourite breakfast cereal?
>
>That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
>up.

Fine, then I'll report one I *know* is real....

On a brush for dusting the blades of ceiling fans: "Turn off fan before using"

....r

djarvinen

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:01:31 PM4/21/03
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Bob Cunningham <exw...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<fff8avcp24jj0h07m...@4ax.com>...


Sadly enough, I actually tried to find some sort of rationale for this
(but couldn't). Perhaps this topic merits its own thread? But I'll
leave it to you to start it. :)

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:08:04 PM4/21/03
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"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:

> Actual Instructions On Consumer Products
> ----------------------------------------
> (Source: Anon)

Good old Anon. But these look plausible.

[snips here and there]

> On packaging for a Rowenta iron: Do not iron clothes on body.

You'd be surprised how many people will try to do a little "touch-up"
without taking off the wrinkled garment. (mumbles "Done it myself--
but *carefully* and making sure that it's not my body the iron is
pressing the clothes against. But if I slipped, it would be ODF.)

> On Boot's Children's cough medicine: Do not drive car or
> operate machinery.

Hey, if it's the only thing in the house...

> On Nytol sleep aid: Warning: may cause drowsiness.

Or, probably, insomnia.

> On a Korean kitchen knife: Warning keep out of children.

Always sound advice.

> On Sainsbury's peanuts: Warning: contains nuts.

This one may be reasonable if the warning refers to tree nuts. There
are people who are alergic to tree nuts but not peanuts, and quite
often the two are processed on the same lines. I would have expected
to see "warning: may contain nuts", which is, on its face, even
funnier.

> On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
> with your hands or genitals.

This one I have trouble believing.

> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
> your favourite breakfast cereal?

I had to stop to think about why that might be funny.

> On a bottle of Palmolive dishwashing liquid: Do not use on food.

You've never seen someone use dishwashing liquid to wash vegetables?

Fruit & Vegetable Wash: Use Planet Dishwashing Liquid as a fruit &
vegetable wash to help remove waxes, dirt, and pesticides. Use
several drops mixed in a large bowl of cold water. Submerse your
fruits and vegetables, and let soak for a minute. Swish leafy
vegetables around to loosen dirt, and use a soft cloth on firm
fruits. Plastic scour pads work well on potatoes. Rinse thoroughly
and pat dry.

http://www.planetinc.com/04dish.htm

If Palmolive isn't safe to be used like that, I'd *hope* they include
a warning.

> On a tube of Crest Toothpaste: If swallowed contact
> poison control.

The LD50 of fluoride is apparently around 50mg/kg. Crest is
apparently 0.15% fluoride by weight (in the active ingredient, sodium
fluoride). For my son, if I did the math right, that would be about
19 oz., so I can see being somewhat worried about any non-trivial
ingestion, and most books recommend being very stingy with toothpaste
until the kid learns to spit it out rather than swallow it most of the
time. I don't have a tube handy, but the actual warning appears to be

Warnings & Precautions for all Toothpastes
Keep out of the reach of children under 6 years of age. If you
accidentally swallow more than used for brushing, seek
professional assistance or contact a Poison Control Center
Immediately.

http://www.dentist.net/toothpaste.asp

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1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 |support of government. Truth can
Palo Alto, CA 94304 |stand by itself.
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Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:10:50 PM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 14:01:31 -0700, the renowned jarv...@proaxis.com
(djarvinen) wrote:

>>Sadly enough, I actually tried to find some sort of rationale for this
>(but couldn't). Perhaps this topic merits its own thread? But I'll
>leave it to you to start it. :)

Try the joke with "rainwater", "acid", "Evian", "Koolaid", "Coffee",
and so on and see which is the funniest.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:16:49 PM4/21/03
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Thus Spake Reinhold (Rey) Aman:

What's with this faggotty "pouf" spelling?
--
Simon R. Hughes
War is Peace!

Frances Kemmish

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:22:42 PM4/21/03
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You'd have to ask St. Ives Laboratories about that.

Fran

Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:21:53 PM4/21/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 14:08:04 -0700, the renowned Evan Kirshenbaum
<kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:

>"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:

>> On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
>> with your hands or genitals.
>
>This one I have trouble believing.

I know a fellow who stopped one with his knee (ouch), presumably he'd
have cause to sue that manufacturer if the label actually said that.

http://www.engrish.com has some interesting labels, though they failed
to put the one I sent them. It was a photo of a package of "Sham Poo"
from a Chinese hotel. I wish "Sham Poo" for my real friends and real
poo for my sham friends.

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 5:49:33 PM4/21/03
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Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:


> Reinhold (Rey) Aman writes:

> > Actual Instructions On Consumer Products
> > ----------------------------------------
> > (Source: Anon)

> Good old Anon. But these look plausible.

Exactly, that's why I posted them.

[...]

> > On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
> > with your hands or genitals.

> This one I have trouble believing.

I'm convinced that there *are* people who try to stop a slowly running
chain saw by pressing its front part between their thighs. I think
this is what the Swedish manufacturer wants to warn about.

[...]

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Reinhold (Rey) Aman

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:04:16 PM4/21/03
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Frances Kemmish wrote:

> Simon R. Hughes wrote:

> > Thus Spake Reinhold (Rey) Aman:

> >>Bob Cunningham wrote:

[...]

> >>>Come to think of it, why would the piss be in the boot
> >>>in the first place?

> >>To pour it onto a pouf?

> > What's with this faggotty "pouf" spelling?

> You'd have to ask St. Ives Laboratories about that.

Precisely. You've never heard of a moistened pouf, Simon? They got
loads of them even in Norway.

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Reinhold (Rey) Aman

M. J. Powell

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Apr 21, 2003, 4:07:25 PM4/21/03
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In message <4c6b7a6a.03042...@posting.google.com>, djarvinen
<jarv...@proaxis.com> writes

On the spine of one of Spike Milligan's books: 'Open other side'.

Mike
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M.J.Powell

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:14:47 PM4/21/03
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Thus Spake M. J. Powell:

Hoax?
<http://krisalis.org/weblog/archives/2003_04.php#002277>
It comes from Singapore.

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:39:43 PM4/21/03
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Thus Spake Reinhold (Rey) Aman:
> Frances Kemmish wrote:
>
> > Simon R. Hughes wrote:
>
> > > Thus Spake Reinhold (Rey) Aman:
>
> > >>Bob Cunningham wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > >>>Come to think of it, why would the piss be in the boot
> > >>>in the first place?
>
> > >>To pour it onto a pouf?
>
> > > What's with this faggotty "pouf" spelling?
>
> > You'd have to ask St. Ives Laboratories about that.
>
> Precisely. You've never heard of a moistened pouf, Simon?

Nope. Not me. No, sirree!

> They got
> loads of them even in Norway.

I just Googled and it appears you're right. Clairol. I think it's
time for Norway to close its borders.

Simon R. Hughes

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Apr 21, 2003, 6:39:44 PM4/21/03
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Thus Spake Reinhold (Rey) Aman:
> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>
> > Reinhold (Rey) Aman writes:
>
> > > Actual Instructions On Consumer Products
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > (Source: Anon)
>
> > Good old Anon. But these look plausible.
>
> Exactly, that's why I posted them.
>
> [...]
>
> > > On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
> > > with your hands or genitals.
>
> > This one I have trouble believing.
>
> I'm convinced that there *are* people who try to stop a slowly running
> chain saw by pressing its front part between their thighs.

Natural selection cutting off trouble at the source.

> I think
> this is what the Swedish manufacturer wants to warn about.

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Apr 21, 2003, 9:22:39 PM4/21/03
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"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:

> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>
> > Reinhold (Rey) Aman writes:
>
> > > Actual Instructions On Consumer Products
> > > ----------------------------------------

[snip]

> > > On a Swedish chainsaw: Do not attempt to stop chain
> > > with your hands or genitals.
>
> > This one I have trouble believing.
>
> I'm convinced that there *are* people who try to stop a slowly
> running chain saw by pressing its front part between their thighs.
> I think this is what the Swedish manufacturer wants to warn about.

Oh, I have no trouble believing that someone would *do* it. I just
have trouble with the notion that the manufacturer would specify
"hands or genitals" rather than "hands or legs" or "hands or any other
part of your body". I suppose, on the other hand, that it's possible
that this is just a poor translation, as with the Japanese(?)
instructions that used "fuck" rather than "screw".

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Charles Riggs

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The OED says poofter is "often considered offensive".

Oy!
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Charles Riggs

Charles Riggs

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:41:50 AM4/22/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 15:32:54 GMT, Dena Jo
<TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I just checked the back of my tube of Crest, and what it says is "If
>you accidentally swallow *more than used for brushing*, seek
>professional help or contact a poison control center immediately"
>(emphasis added). I must confess, I was surprised to see the warning
>there.

On the back of my tube of Aquafresh, made in the UK, are the
directions: "For children under 7, use a pea-sized amount and
supervise brushing to minimise swallowing. If using fluoride
supplements consult your dentist."

Is the fluoride in each, the problem?
--
Charles Riggs

Charles Riggs

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:41:52 AM4/22/03
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On 21 Apr 2003 14:08:04 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
<kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:


>You'd be surprised how many people will try to do a little "touch-up"
>without taking off the wrinkled garment.

I'm sure I would if I owned an iron. What I often do is wash and rinse
a soiled spot, then dry it with an electric fire. It is not necessary
to go to the bother of removing the article of clothing.
--
Charles Riggs

Reinhold (Rey) Aman

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:11:19 AM4/22/03
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Charles Riggs wrote:


> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:

> >You'd be surprised how many people will try to do a little
> >"touch-up" without taking off the wrinkled garment.

> I'm sure I would if I owned an iron. What I often do is wash and
> rinse a soiled spot, then dry it with an electric fire.

What's that? Did you mean "electric fan"?

> It is not necessary
> to go to the bother of removing the article of clothing.

Not even frontally soiled crusty boxer shorts? Be careful, man!

--
Reinhold (Rey) Aman

Jacqui

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:50:10 AM4/22/03
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Bob Cunningham wibbled:

> This brings to mind a saying that is at least fifty years old and
> probably way older: "not smart enough to pour piss out of a boot
> with the directions written on the sole".
>
> Actually, I've always heard "heel" rather than "sole", but it
> hasn't seemed satisfactory, since the directions could be written
> on the side of a heel.
>
> Come to think of it, why would the piss be in the boot in the
> first place?

Army boots. They were notoriously uncomfortable (and often the wrong
size) and new recruits were advised to piss in them and leave them to
stand overnight, as it softened them up. Remembering to empty them
before putting them on was the tricky bit.

Spike Milligan gives quite detailed instructions on this in Adolf
Hitler: My Part In His Downfall, and I've read it in other people's war
memoirs too, so it wasn't just him funning. (AH:MPIHD is for the large
part quite serious.)

Jac

Jacqui

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:52:02 AM4/22/03
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Charles Riggs wibbled:

> On the back of my tube of Aquafresh, made in the UK, are the
> directions: "For children under 7, use a pea-sized amount and
> supervise brushing to minimise swallowing. If using fluoride
> supplements consult your dentist."
>
> Is the fluoride in each, the problem?

For young children, certainly. Too much fluoride can result in
permanent marking of adult teeth, even before the teeth make a hint of
an appearance. My best friend and DH both have some fluoridation
marking on their teeth, the result of living in areas that had
fluoridated water too (his is quite minor, hers quite bad and she's
having cosmetic work done because of it).

Jac

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:56:52 AM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:50:10 +0000 (UTC), Jacqui
<sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Spike Milligan gives quite detailed instructions on this in Adolf
>Hitler: My Part In His Downfall, and I've read it in other people's war
>memoirs too, so it wasn't just him funning. (AH:MPIHD is for the large
>part quite serious.)

One of Spike Milligan's books contained what -- when I was 11 -- I
was convinced was the most-funniest-ever joke in the history of the
world:

He walked with a pronounced limp -- L, I, M, P; pronounced "limp".

Jacqui

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:08:13 AM4/22/03
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Ross Howard wibbled:

> Jacqui wrote:
>
>>Spike Milligan gives quite detailed instructions on this in Adolf
>>Hitler: My Part In His Downfall, and I've read it in other
>>people's war memoirs too, so it wasn't just him funning. (AH:MPIHD
>>is for the large part quite serious.)
>
> One of Spike Milligan's books contained what -- when I was 11 --
> I was convinced was the most-funniest-ever joke in the history of
> the world:
>
> He walked with a pronounced limp -- L, I, M, P; pronounced "limp".

<g> I love Spike. One of the funniest bits of AH:MPIHD for me, sick as
it is, is the story that ends with the punchline "is this your dog?".
It's the way he tells 'em.

(scroll if you really want to know)


Much paraphrased and condensed:
Posted at Bexhill-on-Sea for training, Spike's battalion were
practising for minefields, by laying their own (which also acted as a
possible defence in case of invasion). Locals were warned to keep off,
but animals don't read signs. They knocked on one woman's door, handed
her a collar and a tail and said "is this your dog?".

I'd look up and quote the original but I know I won't find the book
today.

Jac

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:47:02 AM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Jacqui wrote:

> For young children, certainly. Too much fluoride can result in
> permanent marking of adult teeth, even before the teeth make a hint of
> an appearance. My best friend and DH both have some fluoridation
> marking on their teeth, the result of living in areas that had
> fluoridated water too (his is quite minor, hers quite bad and she's
> having cosmetic work done because of it).

What does fluoride marking on the teeth look like? (I ask as someone
who grew up in a fluoridated-water area, so I'm wondering whether I
have it.)

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M. J. Powell

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:39:31 AM4/22/03
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In message <MPG.190e8bbf...@news.online.no>, Simon R. Hughes
<shu...@tromso.online.no> writes

>Thus Spake M. J. Powell:
>> In message <4c6b7a6a.03042...@posting.google.com>, djarvinen
>> <jarv...@proaxis.com> writes
>> >Dena Jo <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:<Xns936447C9...@130.133.1.4>...
>> >> On 21 Apr 2003, mike posted thus:
>> >>
>> >> >> On a packet of Sunmaid raisins: Why not try tossing over
>> >> >> your favourite breakfast cereal?
>> >>
>> >> That's pretty funny, but most, if not all, of these are probably made
>> >> up.
>> >
>> >Perhaps, but I have one you can check yourself: On the bottom of the
>> >back label on Frog's Leap Wines (they make a damn fine Chardonney, by
>> >the way), it says "Open Other End". :)
>>
>> On the spine of one of Spike Milligan's books: 'Open other side'.
>
>Hoax?

I forget the title...

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Dena Jo

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:50:14 AM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003, Charles Riggs posted thus:

Use a blow-dryer next time.

--
Dena Jo

(Email: Replace TPUBGTH with denajo2)

Dena Jo

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Apr 22, 2003, 9:53:43 AM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003, Jacqui posted thus:

> <g> I love Spike. One of the funniest bits of AH:MPIHD for me,
> sick as it is, is the story that ends with the punchline "is this
> your dog?". It's the way he tells 'em.

<switching to Peter Sellers>

"Does your dog bite?"

Tony Cooper

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Apr 22, 2003, 10:15:50 AM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 13:50:14 GMT, Dena Jo
<TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily
have blow-driers around? We're not sure if Charles needs a comb, let
alone a blow-dryer.


--
Tony Cooper aka: tony_co...@yahoo.com
Provider of Jots, Tittles, and Oy!s

Dena Jo

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:10:44 AM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003, Tony Cooper posted thus:

> You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily
> have blow-driers around? We're not sure if Charles needs a comb, let
> alone a blow-dryer.

But I think Charles has hair, although I may be thinking of his chest.

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:12:40 AM4/22/03
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>But I think Charles has hair, although I may be thinking of his chest.

Is this an unhealthy obsession?

PB

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:28:17 AM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Tony Cooper wrote:

> On 22 Apr 2003 13:50:14 GMT, Dena Jo
> <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >Use a blow-dryer next time.
>
> You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily
> have blow-driers around?

Dead right, C**p. I'm surprised to see such a perceptive comment from
you.

I could say a whole lot about this subject, but for now I'll just
remind everyone that the electric hairdryer was, like no other object,
an emblem of 1970s adolescent and 20-something post-'Sixties youth
culture. The hairdryer came to symbolize everything the "Me Decade"
(as the 'Seventies was dubbed) was about: decadent self-absorption,
sunny hedonism, careless materialism, and astonishingly
bad taste. The fetishization of the hairdryer was common to both
sexes, or, in the parlance of the day, it was a "unisex" phenomenon.
It's not hard to see why, C**p, if you consider the popular youth
hairstyles of the day. What's less clear is why those youth hairstyles
were popular.

There were signs of dissent all along, some reactionary and others
progressive, but it was pretty much up to the
pioneering urban advance guard of the Early Post-Tet Generation to put
a true cultural stop to this horrific state of affairs. And they did.
C**p, I'm proud to report that I haven't used an electric hairdryer
since 1980 or so, and I've certainly never bought or owned one.
Hairdryers are not only bad; they're wrong, wrong, dead wrongity wrong.
They're right up there with the electric can opener.


Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:33:21 AM4/22/03
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>From: R F rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu

> I'm proud to report that I haven't used an electric hairdryer
>since 1980 or so, and I've certainly never bought or owned one.

That's too bad. It may come in handy when you need to dry a piece of wet cloth
pronto.

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:39:06 AM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, R F wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
> > On 22 Apr 2003 13:50:14 GMT, Dena Jo
> > <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Use a blow-dryer next time.
> >
> > You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily
> > have blow-driers around?
>
> Dead right, C**p. I'm surprised to see such a perceptive comment from

> you. [...]

Actually, I don't understand why you limit your observation to "single"
men, C**p. Non-reactionary post-Tet men, single or married, do not use
hairdryers.


Frances Kemmish

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:50:35 AM4/22/03
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I think that you will find that many married men have access to
hairdryers, even if they do not use them.

Fran

Dena Jo

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Apr 22, 2003, 11:58:12 AM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003, Padraig Breathnach posted thus:

Not if I don't think about it for too long.

Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 22, 2003, 12:25:39 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 15:33:21 GMT, the renowned arcadi...@aol.com
(Arcadian Rises) wrote:

They are good for drying photographic prints. Or even shrinking
shrink-tubing. I bought a large carton of them at auction when the
last manufacturer moved their production to China, and found few other
uses for them. They are all gone now; I know not where.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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mickwick

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Apr 22, 2003, 12:32:14 PM4/22/03
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In alt.usage.english, Reinhold (Rey) Aman wrote:

>BTW, how does one moisten a pouf, with a golden shower?

I've moistened a pouf. Poufs (which I, being a bit nouveau, have always
spelt 'pouffes' until now) were all the rage in the '70s and for a while
no living room was complete without one. They were always of Moroccan
origin, circular, of beige or cream leather with coloured insets, about
a foot high and eighteen inches in diameter. I spilt a soft drink on one
owned by the teacher who, together with his wife, had been appointed to
give me and two other boys moral guidance (these moral guardians had a
fancy title but I've forgotten it). They invited us into their house,
served us biscuits and soft drinks and tried to get us to talk to them
like human beings but we were only interested in the pouf and spent the
whole time trying not to giggle about it. One boy, who, like our
Charles, was half-Norwegian, kept expressing profound but not wholly
sincere admiration for it - 'That's a very nice pouf, Mrs X. Have you
had the pouf for very long, Mrs X?' etc. - and it was this that caused
the spillage. The leather was very absorbent and Mrs was clearly very
upset and I, being a polite little chap back then, was mortified. The
giggling ceased abruptly but it was too late. We were ushered out of the
house, never to return. We went without moral guidance thereafter.

But it wasn't all bad. The third boy had vertical hair and consequently
was bullied a lot. (We called him Bog Brush.) That evening was the only
time I ever saw him laugh.

(And if that last sentence sounds like the voice-over for a crappy
American rights-of-passage film ... well, I'm not proud. Anyone want to
buy the movie rights? Working titles: _The Pouf_ (Dogme version), _The
Ottoman Inundation_ (thriller version), _Bog Brush Pulls It off_ (low-
budget British version full of tittering innuendo and Hattie Jacques
[pron: 'Jakes']).

--
Mickwick

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 12:45:28 PM4/22/03
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>From: Spehro Pefhany sp...@interlog.com

[on hair dryers used for other than their purpose]>They are good for drying


photographic prints. Or even shrinking
>shrink-tubing. I bought a large carton of them at auction when the
>last manufacturer moved their production to China, and found few other
>uses for them.

Like drying your (not yours. of course) nails, or even as an emergency iron.

Padraig Breathnach

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:08:42 PM4/22/03
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Spehro Pefhany <sp...@interlog.com> wrote:

>On 22 Apr 2003 15:33:21 GMT, the renowned arcadi...@aol.com
>(Arcadian Rises) wrote:
>
>>>From: R F rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu
>>
>>> I'm proud to report that I haven't used an electric hairdryer
>>>since 1980 or so, and I've certainly never bought or owned one.
>>
>>That's too bad. It may come in handy when you need to dry a piece of wet cloth
>>pronto.
>
>They are good for drying photographic prints. Or even shrinking
>shrink-tubing. I bought a large carton of them at auction when the
>last manufacturer moved their production to China, and found few other
>uses for them. They are all gone now; I know not where.
>

Your mistake was in buying a number of them. Had there been only one,
you would have taken care of it.

PB

Sara Moffat Lorimer

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:36:08 PM4/22/03
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

> On 22 Apr 2003 15:33:21 GMT, the renowned arcadi...@aol.com
> (Arcadian Rises) wrote:
>
> >>From: R F rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu
> >
> >> I'm proud to report that I haven't used an electric hairdryer
> >>since 1980 or so, and I've certainly never bought or owned one.
> >
> >That's too bad. It may come in handy when you need to dry a piece of wet
> >cloth pronto.
>
> They are good for drying photographic prints. Or even shrinking
> shrink-tubing.

I bought my first hairdryer last month. We use it on the cat.

--
SML
http://www.pirate-women.com

Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:51:23 PM4/22/03
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My mother has always hoovered her cats.

I was given a free hairdryer with some other purchase. I use it to
defrost the freezer.

--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:49:31 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:51:23 +0100, Laura F Spira
<la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:

>Sara Moffat Lorimer wrote:

>> I bought my first hairdryer last month. We use it on the cat.
>
>My mother has always hoovered her cats.

Is this some sort of girl code?

Ross Howard
-------------------
(Kick ass for e-mail)

"It's a new dawn, it's a new day, it's a new life for me -- and I'm
feelin' good." -- US emigré Nina Simone (1933-2003)

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:55:31 PM4/22/03
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>From: Laura F Spira

>I was given a free hairdryer with some other purchase. I use it to
>defrost the freezer.

That's the best use of a hair dryer I've ever heard of so far.

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:56:51 PM4/22/03
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>From: Ross Howard gdonke...@yahoo.com

>>My mother has always hoovered her cats.
>
>Is this some sort of girl code?

I believe she was referring to Hoover, a brand of vacuum cleaners, but I may be
wrong.

Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:00:20 PM4/22/03
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Ross Howard wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:51:23 +0100, Laura F Spira
> <la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:
>
> >Sara Moffat Lorimer wrote:
>
> >> I bought my first hairdryer last month. We use it on the cat.
> >
> >My mother has always hoovered her cats.
>
> Is this some sort of girl code?
>
>

Could be. Since you managed to post a reply before my message appeared,
I imagine that you could crack it if you tried hard enough.

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:57:36 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 17:56:51 GMT, arcadi...@aol.com (Arcadian Rises)
wrote:

No I meant the cats business. I suspect they're secretly touching upon
"moistened pouf"-related matters.

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 1:59:29 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 17:55:31 GMT, arcadi...@aol.com (Arcadian Rises)
wrote:

>>From: Laura F Spira

Theoretically, yes. Tried it once. It blew a blizzard of ice-cold
powdered snow into my face, so I went back to me trusty spatula.

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:01:28 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:00:20 +0100, Laura F Spira
<la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:

>Ross Howard wrote:

>> Is this some sort of girl code?
>
>Could be. Since you managed to post a reply before my message appeared,
>I imagine that you could crack it if you tried hard enough.

That's Spain for you: 99.9% *mañana* and just now and again we're done
before anyone else has started.

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:05:24 PM4/22/03
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>From: Ross Howard gdonke...@yahoo.com

>>
>>That's the best use of a hair dryer I've ever heard of so far.
>
>Theoretically, yes. Tried it once. It blew a blizzard of ice-cold
>powdered snow into my face, so I went back to me trusty spatula.

Try boiled water. It's messy, but does the job faster than spatula alone.

Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:09:22 PM4/22/03
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Ross Howard wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:00:20 +0100, Laura F Spira
> <la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:
>
> >Ross Howard wrote:
>
> >> Is this some sort of girl code?
> >
> >Could be. Since you managed to post a reply before my message appeared,
> >I imagine that you could crack it if you tried hard enough.
>
> That's Spain for you: 99.9% *mañana* and just now and again we're done
> before anyone else has started.
>
>

Got my photos back - we only visited three bodegas in three days in
Jerez - funny, it seemed like more...

Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:13:24 PM4/22/03
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Do you mean boiling water?

You can get stuff in a spray can that is a very effective defroster -
it's in the Lakeland catalogue (hi, Rudolf!) But the hairdryer is good
for the lingering lumps of ice that lurk at the back and can't be
reached easily.

Frances Kemmish

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:16:26 PM4/22/03
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Ross Howard wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:00:20 +0100, Laura F Spira
> <la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Ross Howard wrote:
>
>
>>>Is this some sort of girl code?
>>
>>Could be. Since you managed to post a reply before my message appeared,
>>I imagine that you could crack it if you tried hard enough.
>
>
> That's Spain for you: 99.9% *mañana* and just now and again we're done
> before anyone else has started.
>

I've met men like that.

Fran

Skitt

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:15:37 PM4/22/03
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Arcadian Rises wrote:
>> From: Ross Howard:

>>> That's the best use of a hair dryer I've ever heard of so far.
>>
>> Theoretically, yes. Tried it once. It blew a blizzard of ice-cold
>> powdered snow into my face, so I went back to me trusty spatula.
>
> Try boiled water. It's messy, but does the job faster than spatula
> alone.

Is boiled water better for it than the unboiled kind? Oh, more sanitary, I
guess. Or did you mean "boiling water"? "Hot water", even?
--
Skitt (in SF Bay Area) http://www.geocities.com/opus731/
I speak English well -- I learn it from a book!
-- Manuel (Fawlty Towers)

Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:19:50 PM4/22/03
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<chortle>

The fizzy stuff I was drinking when I read that has gone up my nose and
the cat is looking distinctly cross at being sprayed with it - now I
suppose I'll have to find the hairdryer....

tomca...@yanospamhoo.com

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:18:14 PM4/22/03
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Charles Riggs <chr...@eircom.net> wrote:

> The OED says poofter is "often considered offensive".

Is a poofter the same as a paunce?

Oliver Cromm

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:20:30 PM4/22/03
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Quoth Tony Cooper:

> You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily

> have blow-driers around? We're not sure if Charles needs a comb, let
> alone a blow-dryer.

For most of my life, I didn't have a blow-dryer, whether single or with
female counterpart. And all persons involved had/have a nice crest of
hair. I mostly comb with my fingers, though a comb is available, if I
find out where junior put it - it's one of his favorite toys.

--
Oliver Cromm
This primitive breed is unique in that it is hairless except
for a crest of hair on its head, socks on the feet and
a plume on the tail (not about Charles, obviously, but
about the "Chinese Crested Dog")

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:36:28 PM4/22/03
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Perhaps. It depends on how moist he is.

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:37:18 PM4/22/03
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See! It *is* a girl code!

>
>Fran

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:38:43 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 19:13:24 +0100, Laura F Spira
<la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote:

>You can get stuff in a spray can that is a very effective defroster -
>it's in the Lakeland catalogue

Oh, a spray can? That doesn't sound very Earth Day, does it.

Jacqui

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Apr 22, 2003, 2:58:21 PM4/22/03
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R F wibbled:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, R F wrote:

>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Tony Cooper wrote:

>> > You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't
>> > necessarily have blow-driers around?
>>

>> Dead right, C**p. I'm surprised to see such a perceptive comment
>> from you. [...]
>
> Actually, I don't understand why you limit your observation to
> "single" men, C**p. Non-reactionary post-Tet men, single or
> married, do not use hairdryers.

The bit about having them around makes the difference. Married men may
well share a house with a hairdryer, whether they know it or not, and
whether they use it or not. Single men are far less likely to do so.
Tony was right.

Jac

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:01:41 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 18:57:19 +0000 (UTC), c...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk (Chris
Malcolm) wrote:

>Dena Jo <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> writes:

>><switching to Peter Sellers>
>
>>"Does your dog bite?"
>
>"Deug" as in "beumb".

Is that clip from *Parkinson* some 30 years ago of PS telling the joke
about the aged "actaw" trying to get a cheque cashed still repeated on
the Beeb at least twice a year?

And his emu moment three times?

[ObBadTaste: The most celebated regular guest on *Parkinson* was
Muhammad Ali.]

Rudolf Schwarzkopf-Zskai

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:05:06 PM4/22/03
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"Laura F Spira" <la...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com> wrote in message
news:3EA58644...@DRAGONspira.u-net.com...

(Hi, Laura) - lingering lumps that lurk at the back should only ever be
treated with, er, a moistened pouffe.
--
Rudolf - Nottingham UK - www.lizardnet.freeserve.co.uk


Laura F Spira

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:33:38 PM4/22/03
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But there's never one of those around when needed, is there?

Hey, Rudolf, where've you been? I thought of you today when the new
catalogue arrived. It's gone a bit upmarket with trendy decanters and
garden furniture.

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:36:19 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003, Arcadian Rises wrote:

> >From: Spehro Pefhany sp...@interlog.com
>
> [on hair dryers used for other than their purpose]>They are good for drying


> photographic prints. Or even shrinking

> >shrink-tubing. I bought a large carton of them at auction when the
> >last manufacturer moved their production to China, and found few other
> >uses for them.
>

> Like drying your (not yours. of course) nails,

So, is that something you use hairdryers for?

Raymond S. Wise

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:38:09 PM4/22/03
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"R F" <rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.44.030422...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu...
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Jacqui wrote:
>
> > For young children, certainly. Too much fluoride can result in
> > permanent marking of adult teeth, even before the teeth make a hint of
> > an appearance. My best friend and DH both have some fluoridation
> > marking on their teeth, the result of living in areas that had
> > fluoridated water too (his is quite minor, hers quite bad and she's
> > having cosmetic work done because of it).
>
> What does fluoride marking on the teeth look like? (I ask as someone
> who grew up in a fluoridated-water area, so I'm wondering whether I
> have it.)


There's a picture at

http://cudental.creighton.edu/htm/fluoride.htm


--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com


Spehro Pefhany

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Apr 22, 2003, 3:51:16 PM4/22/03
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I prefer to let mine air dry before giving them a good buffing.

I challenged a grade-two kid the other day on what "hangnail" means.
As I suspected, he didn't know what it means and described it as the
green part of his fingernail that sticks out from the pink part that
sticks out from the white part. The dirt under his nails was indeed
greenish.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
sp...@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Ray Heindl

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:20:24 PM4/22/03
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arcadi...@aol.com (Arcadian Rises) wrote:

They're handy for removing stick-on labels; gentle heating will soften
the adhesive on many kinds of labels and tapes, including price
stickers and floppy discs. They're also good for drying bicycle
chains. They're not so good for drying dogs, though -- mine really
hated it the few times I tried it.

--
Ray Heindl
(remove the X to reply)

Ray Heindl

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:21:53 PM4/22/03
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Oliver Cromm <scherzk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> For most of my life, I didn't have a blow-dryer, whether single or
> with female counterpart. And all persons involved had/have a nice
> crest of hair. I mostly comb with my fingers, though a comb is
> available, if I find out where junior put it - it's one of his
> favorite toys.

What is the female counterpart of a blow-dryer?



> --
> Oliver Cromm
> This primitive breed is unique in that it is hairless except
> for a crest of hair on its head, socks on the feet and
> a plume on the tail (not about Charles, obviously, but
> about the "Chinese Crested Dog")

I once met a dog that was a mix of Chinese Crested and Dachshund. It
looked like something from a science fiction movie -- the Chinese
Crested coat pattern, but with the body shape of a dachshund.

John Dean

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Apr 22, 2003, 4:42:37 PM4/22/03
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Meantime, while aue was looking the other way, the 21st Century slipped
quietly in. The latest development is the 'frost-free' freezer. It hardly
ever needs to be defrosted. What is 'hardly ever'? Dunno, we've had one for
6 months and there's not a trace of ice (yes, it *is* plugged in) except
where there's supposed to be ice - ie where we store ice cubes. Which is a
brilliant spin-off because you can decant your cubes from your tray into an
ice-bucket which you can store in the freezer and they DON'T STICK TOGETHER!
(The cubes, not the trays). Finito the bowls of hot water, spatulae, special
Lakeland aerosols, newspapers on the kitchen floor, cursing, muttering,
hacking. 'Frost-free' is the magic phrase (in the UK anyway)
--
John Dean
Oxford
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Wood Avens

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:11:18 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 20:20:24 -0000, Ray Heindl <rhe...@nccwx.net>
wrote:

We used ours successfully for removing a decal, consisting of stripey
lines and diagrammatic footballers, from my current car. (We wouldn't
have thought of doing this if I hadn't googled for it, but I
thoroughly recommend it should others find themselves in an unwanted-
decal situation.)

I have tried it on the cat. He vacated the premises with some speed.

I've also used it occasionally to tighten the skin of my frame drum -
standard practice for a drum without a built-in tuning device.
bb
Wood Avens

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Joe Fineman

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:41:14 PM4/22/03
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"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:

> Charles Riggs wrote:

> > I'm sure I would if I owned an iron. What I often do is wash and
> > rinse a soiled spot, then dry it with an electric fire.
>
> What's that? Did you mean "electric fan"?

British for a small space heater -- recently discussed on another
thread.
--
--- Joe Fineman j...@TheWorld.com

||: Hypocrisy is the homage vice renders to virtue. :||

Joe Fineman

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:47:15 PM4/22/03
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jarv...@proaxis.com (djarvinen) writes:

> Perhaps, but I have one you can check yourself: On the bottom of the
> back label on Frog's Leap Wines (they make a damn fine Chardonney,
> by the way), it says "Open Other End". :)

About 35 years ago, the office I worked in received from Eastman Kodak
a large carton containing an expensive microfilm reader, assembly
required. We unpacked it rather gingerly, and spread the
vulnerable-looking parts across a table. At the bottom of the carton
was a sheet of instructions for unpacking, of which the first was to
turn the carton upside down and open the bottom.


--
--- Joe Fineman j...@TheWorld.com

||: Mixima should be rendered manimal. :||

Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:45:09 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 17:41:14 -0400, Joe Fineman <j...@TheWorld.com> wrote:

>"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:
>
>> Charles Riggs wrote:
>
>> > I'm sure I would if I owned an iron. What I often do is wash and
>> > rinse a soiled spot, then dry it with an electric fire.
>>
>> What's that? Did you mean "electric fan"?
>
>British for a small space heater -- recently discussed on another
>thread.

No fans. Two or three exposed elements horizontally in front of a
concave mirror (I always thought convex would spread the heat out
better but I'm no domestic-thermalware designer) with a wire safety
guard in front.

The British electric fire was the inspiration for the UV lamp: you can
get a great facial tan while lighting cigarettes if you can't find
your lighter.

Joe Fineman

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:51:40 PM4/22/03
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"Reinhold (Rey) Aman" <am...@sonic.net> writes:

> On Sainsbury's peanuts: Warning: contains nuts.

On one packet of nuts I found the information: "If salted, contains
salt."


--
--- Joe Fineman j...@TheWorld.com

||: Everything you do costs money, dissipates heat, and makes :||
||: crumbs. :||

Mike Barnes

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Apr 22, 2003, 5:57:22 PM4/22/03
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In alt.usage.english, John Dean wrote:
>Meantime, while aue was looking the other way, the 21st Century slipped
>quietly in. The latest development is the 'frost-free' freezer. It hardly
>ever needs to be defrosted. What is 'hardly ever'? Dunno, we've had one for
>6 months and there's not a trace of ice

Ditto, but a few years in our case.

>(yes, it *is* plugged in) except
>where there's supposed to be ice - ie where we store ice cubes. Which is a
>brilliant spin-off because you can decant your cubes from your tray into an
>ice-bucket which you can store in the freezer and they DON'T STICK TOGETHER!
>(The cubes, not the trays).

Trays? You don't use those dinky little polythene bags? I like to think
that ice stays fresher in the bags.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:04:24 PM4/22/03
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>From: Joe Fineman j...@TheWorld.com

>On one packet of nuts I found the information: "If salted, contains
>salt."

That's a useful piece of information.:)
Can we safely assume that "if not salted, they're salt free?"

Tony Cooper

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:27:15 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:25:39 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <sp...@interlog.com>
wrote:

>On 22 Apr 2003 15:33:21 GMT, the renowned arcadi...@aol.com
>(Arcadian Rises) wrote:
>
>>>From: R F rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu
>>
>>> I'm proud to report that I haven't used an electric hairdryer
>>>since 1980 or so, and I've certainly never bought or owned one.
>>
>>That's too bad. It may come in handy when you need to dry a piece of wet cloth
>>pronto.


>
>They are good for drying photographic prints. Or even shrinking
>shrink-tubing. I bought a large carton of them at auction when the
>last manufacturer moved their production to China, and found few other

>uses for them. They are all gone now; I know not where.
>
I've used my wife's for shrinking shrink-tubing, drying the dog and
cat after their bath, softening decals and price tags that need
removing, loosing plastic things stuck in other plastic things, and
even for loosening stuck nuts. (Leave it alone. It's too easy)


--
Tony Cooper aka: tony_co...@yahoo.com
Provider of Jots, Tittles, and Oy!s

Tony Cooper

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:33:46 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:39:06 -0400, R F <rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu>
wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, R F wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>
>> > On 22 Apr 2003 13:50:14 GMT, Dena Jo
>> > <TPUBGTH.don't.use.this...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Use a blow-dryer next time.


>> >
>> > You are aware that many single men of a certain age don't necessarily
>> > have blow-driers around?
>>
>> Dead right, C**p. I'm surprised to see such a perceptive comment from
>> you. [...]
>
>Actually, I don't understand why you limit your observation to "single"
>men, C**p. Non-reactionary post-Tet men, single or married, do not use
>hairdryers.

I said "around". Married bald men are not likely to be married to
bald women. I have never purchased a hair dryer, but there is one
around the house.

R H Draney

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Apr 22, 2003, 6:57:23 PM4/22/03
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In article <wkbryy1...@TheWorld.com>, Joe says...

>
>||: Mixima should be rendered manimal. :||

I'll have to check, but this may be the first Simon McCorkindale reference ever
made on aue....r

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:19:35 PM4/22/03
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, John Dean wrote:

> Meantime, while aue was looking the other way, the 21st Century slipped
> quietly in. The latest development is the 'frost-free' freezer. It hardly
> ever needs to be defrosted. What is 'hardly ever'? Dunno, we've had one for
> 6 months and there's not a trace of ice (yes, it *is* plugged in) except
> where there's supposed to be ice - ie where we store ice cubes. Which is a
> brilliant spin-off because you can decant your cubes from your tray into an
> ice-bucket which you can store in the freezer and they DON'T STICK TOGETHER!
> (The cubes, not the trays). Finito the bowls of hot water, spatulae, special
> Lakeland aerosols, newspapers on the kitchen floor, cursing, muttering,
> hacking. 'Frost-free' is the magic phrase (in the UK anyway)

I was going to remark on this. C**p, listen up, 'cause maybe you can
help out. Haven't such "frost-free" refrigerators been standard in the
US since the early 'Seventies at the latest? A year ago I was
living in a run-down old apartment in a run-down old city in
Connecticut, and one of the unbelievably run-down and old features of
this apartment was that it had a refrigerator that had to be defrosted.
I didn't even know how to defrost a refrigerator. To give you some
perspective, this apartment also featured a gas oven that *had to be
lit each time you wanted to use it*. (The oven didn't really work,
anyway, it turned out.) Well, having a refrigerator that had to be
defrosted was as much a sign of oldness and run-down-ness as having an
oven that *had to be lit each time you wanted to use it*. It was clear
that this apartment hadn't been renovated since the 'Fifties, which is
about when the building was built.

Now, recently I moved from another place to Chicago, and when I was
looking at ads and other propaganda for apartments, I was shocked to
see so many buildings touting the fact that they featured "frost-free
refrigerators". In years past, on a few different occasions, I spent a
lot of time looking at apartments in New York, and I can't remember a
single one touting the fact that it had a "frost-free refrigerator".
It was sort of understood that even in a run-down old apartment
building in Manhattan you'd at least get a refrigerator that didn't
have to be defrosted.

So what's going on here? Don't tell me New York and the other places
I've lived in (except the small city in Connecticut) were unusual in
providing "frost-free refrigerators" since time immemorial. You'd
think that once something like that is introduced, it'll catch on right
away. Obviously, people don't want to throw out their old
refrigerators if they're working okay, but that still doesn't really
explain anything. But what's odd is that John Dean's posting suggests
that in Britain the "frost-free" fridge is a new thang, and so do
Chicago apartment ads. Am I missing something again?


Ross Howard

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:27:07 PM4/22/03
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On 22 Apr 2003 15:57:23 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>I'll have to check, but this may be the first Simon McCorkindale reference ever
>made on aue....r

Only a few hours after Bruce Boxleitner, too.

Arcadian Rises

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:32:19 PM4/22/03
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>From: R F rf...@sparky.cs.nyu.edu

>It was sort of understood that even in a run-down old apartment
>building in Manhattan you'd at least get a refrigerator that didn't
>have to be defrosted.

In my Manhattan office, I keep a small refrigerator for drinks (except, of
course, the red wine). It's not a frost-free fridge, so every 7-8 months it
needs to be defrosted, so that I can open the ice compartment that grows
icebergs.
I felt the need to explain this, since I was the one who congratulated one of
the posters for the brilliant idea to use a blo-dryer as a defrosting device.

R F

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Apr 22, 2003, 7:44:49 PM4/22/03
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Question is, can a Post-Tet Pre-Bicentennial woman remain true to PTPB
ideals and still use a hairdryer? Unclear. NTTAWWWRPTPBI.


Robert Bannister

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Apr 22, 2003, 8:02:47 PM4/22/03
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mickwick wrote:
> In alt.usage.english, Reinhold (Rey) Aman wrote:
>
>
>>BTW, how does one moisten a pouf, with a golden shower?
>
>
> I've moistened a pouf. Poufs (which I, being a bit nouveau, have always
> spelt 'pouffes' until now) were all the rage in the '70s and for a while
> no living room was complete without one. They were always of Moroccan
> origin, circular, of beige or cream leather with coloured insets, about
> a foot high and eighteen inches in diameter.

Nice story (if true), but Obaue: what about pronunciation? I pronounce
'pouf/pouffe' with the vowel of 'proof/truth', while 'poof' has the
vowel of 'book/put'. (Now, I'm not sure whether 'book' and 'put' do have
the same vowel).

--
Rob Bannister

Robert Bannister

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Apr 22, 2003, 8:07:57 PM4/22/03
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Ross Howard wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:50:10 +0000 (UTC), Jacqui
> <sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Spike Milligan gives quite detailed instructions on this in Adolf
>>Hitler: My Part In His Downfall, and I've read it in other people's war
>>memoirs too, so it wasn't just him funning. (AH:MPIHD is for the large
>>part quite serious.)
>
>
> One of Spike Milligan's books contained what -- when I was 11 -- I
> was convinced was the most-funniest-ever joke in the history of the
> world:
>
> He walked with a pronounced limp -- L, I, M, P; pronounced "limp".

Must be me, but I've never found Spike's books very funny. However, when
he spoke - even quoting from his books - I would laugh my head off. I
once went to a recording session of the Goon Show in London - it took
hours because of the retakes. The main problem was Spike who kept
reducing Harry to fits of giggles with his ad libs. After a while, they
didn't even bother to hold up the 'Laugh' signs.

--
Rob Bannister

Robert Bannister

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Apr 22, 2003, 8:10:38 PM4/22/03
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Dena Jo wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2003, Charles Riggs posted thus:
>
>
>>On 21 Apr 2003 14:08:04 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
>><kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>You'd be surprised how many people will try to do a little
>>>"touch-up" without taking off the wrinkled garment.
>>
>>I'm sure I would if I owned an iron. What I often do is wash and
>>rinse a soiled spot, then dry it with an electric fire. It is not
>>necessary to go to the bother of removing the article of clothing.

>
>
> Use a blow-dryer next time.
>

So that's the origin of blow job.

--
Rob Bannister

Robert Bannister

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Apr 22, 2003, 8:17:00 PM4/22/03
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The ice forms when you allow a jar or something to get too far back so
that it is in contact with the thingie that does the cooling. The ice
forms very quickly. In our hot climate, I find just leaving the door
open for 2-3 hours does the trick, but I could imagine how a hair-dryer
would help, if I had a hair-dryer.

--
Rob Bannister

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