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Harrison Hill

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Aug 19, 2012, 4:50:39 PM8/19/12
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In the sixties and seventies "Rock" was a cheap alternative to "Cod"
in our English "Fish and Chip Shops", and had a bone down the centre.
Nowadays "Rock" is *more* expensive, and in the mean time it has been
suggested that "Rock Salmon" is a completely meaningless expression,
and sometimes means "Huss" (itself completely meaningless) and at
other times means "Shark" or whatever happens to be cheap at the time.

My cats are on "Ocean Fish" so I am confident they have the best
catfood available,

Skitt

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Aug 19, 2012, 5:07:18 PM8/19/12
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Have you ever tasted rock shrimp? Yumm.

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Skitt (SF Bay Area)
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Whiskers

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Aug 20, 2012, 9:37:29 AM8/20/12
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On 2012-08-19, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the sixties and seventies "Rock" was a cheap alternative to "Cod"
> in our English "Fish and Chip Shops", and had a bone down the centre.
> Nowadays "Rock" is *more* expensive, and in the mean time it has been
> suggested that "Rock Salmon" is a completely meaningless expression,
> and sometimes means "Huss" (itself completely meaningless) and at
> other times means "Shark" or whatever happens to be cheap at the time.

It was a neat bit of salesmanship, to describe any cheap and
easily-caught fish with a 'posh' name. Inevitably, the cheap and
easily caught species have now become rare and endangered - so,
expensive.

In south-west England, Rock Salmon was usually a small species of shark
known as 'dogfish', which had firm white flesh and a vaguely cod-like
taste but looked so ugly on the fishmonger's slab that people didn't
buy it. In the chippy, if you just asked for 'fish' without saying
what sort, you might well end up eating a slab of Blue Shark meat left
over from the shark fin soup trade (only the fins fetch a good price,
the rest of the beast is a by-product), or some specimen that failed to
survive the sport of shark fishing.

Salmon and oysters used to be 'poor peoples food' they were so common
and easy to catch. Farmed salmon are heading towards cheap, although
how long that'll last is anyone's guess.

> My cats are on "Ocean Fish" so I am confident they have the best
> catfood available,

I can just see your cat riding on the back of a basking shark.

At least putting the word 'Fish' into the description must mean they
don't deliberately include cetaceans.

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Don Phillipson

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Aug 20, 2012, 2:17:52 PM8/20/12
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"Harrison Hill" <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In the sixties and seventies "Rock" was a cheap alternative to "Cod"
> in our English "Fish and Chip Shops", and had a bone down the centre.
> Nowadays "Rock" is *more* expensive, and in the mean time it has been
> suggested that "Rock Salmon" is a completely meaningless expression,
> and sometimes means "Huss" (itself completely meaningless) and at
> other times means "Shark" or whatever happens to be cheap at the time.

At English fish and chip shops in the 1950s and 1960s Rock was "rock
salmon" = dogfish (small sharks, with cartilage in place of bone as in
the osteicthyes (bony fishes.))

Huss was the standard fishmonger's term for dogfish at least 1800-1950.
The word may have since become dialect (local to Cornwall etc.) as the
species has declined and gastronomical tastes altered.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


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