On 3/13/2023 4:41 PM, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Den 13.03.2023 kl. 18.29 skrev Tak To:
>
>>> It has quite strange function for going back and forth in the messages
>>> in the sequence that I read them in. It works sometimes, and other times
>>> not. There are messages that I could not read because they had
>>> diappeared from my window, and the back-and-forth didn't find them.
>>
>> If a message disappears from the listing window, 9 times out
>> of 10 it is because it has been marked as read.
>
> Not here. Messages are marked as read the second they are displayed.
I am not sure what you are talking about. I was referring to
the listing window.
Let's say your /Message/Thread choice is "Unread". By default
only unread messages are listed in the window. When you click
a message, it will instantly becomes "read" as you noted, but
it will still be visible in the listing window -- until the
listing window refreshes, which can occur under a variety
of circumstances.
>> There are two
>> stages of filtering in TB, one is at the View-Threads-
>> {All,Unread...} level, the other at the Tag/Quick Filter
>> level. The confusing thing is that a read message won't
>> disappear immediately, but will after any event that updates
>> the display.
>
> Messages that are displayed here, never disappear.
See above.
> The filters I use,
> are only active while fetching.
Uh? The "Quick Filter" settings are for displaying the list
in the listing window. They do not affect fetching.
>> This brings me to my biggest gripe about TB -- there is no
>> "undo" for marking a message as read (either explicitly
>> or implicitly).
>
> Try to mark (or display) a message and then press M. You can mark as
> many as you like.
When you "current message" (as high-lighted in the listing
window) disappears altogether from the listing window
(and the content window showing empty), you do not
have a way to "unread" it.
>>> I have learnt to live with Thunderbird, but I miss Agent - the best
>>> newsreader I have tried. I have mentioned before the unique feature with
>>> filters that can be set to disappear after a specific period, and better
>>> still: after a specific period with no activity.
>>>
>>> I don't understand that other newsreaders haven't copied it.
>>
>> Users have a different usage pattern.
>
> They can leave the option unused if they don't like it.
What I meant was, the designers of other newsreaders do not
perceive that feature as a high priority, because they have
a different set of usage patterns in mind.
>> Features in TB that I would like to see
>>
>> (1) A sophisticated MBOX file repairing tool. There are a number
>> of garbled MBOX files on my disk. I don't know what went wrong,
>> and I could not see anything obvious in a text editor. However,
>> TB hangs while trying to create the index files for them.
>
> I haven't had the problem, but I would roll out my backup if something
> like that happened to me.
How often do you back the mbox files up? It is not a very practical
solution.
When that occurred in the past, I unsubscribed from the group, copied
the mbox file to another place, and resubscribed again. I meant to
write a program to help me parse the garbled mbox file, but never got
around to doing it.