Avon
John McKay
"have" and who as in "say"?
Am I right in guessing that the pronunciation has changed
since the days of the Bard from the former to the latter
(in England)? The former is used in Canada in "Avonlea".
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Ralph Yozzo
>Who pronounces the initial syllable in "Avon" as in
>"have" and who as in "say"?
>
>Am I right in guessing that the pronunciation has changed
>since the days of the Bard from the former to the latter
>(in England)? The former is used in Canada in "Avonlea".
>
From what I remember of the commercial for the Avon company,
they use the 'AY-von' pronunciation. I believe the jingle
went, "Ding-dong...AY-von calling".
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Todd Andrew Simpson
In article <CA7Kv...@newsflash.concordia.ca> mc...@alcor.concordia.ca (John McKay) writes:
>Who pronounces the initial syllable in "Avon" as in
>"have" and who as in "say"?
>
>Am I right in guessing that the pronunciation has changed
>since the days of the Bard from the former to the latter
>(in England)? The former is used in Canada in "Avonlea".
>
From what I remember of the commercial for the Avon company,
they use the 'AY-von' pronunciation. I believe the jingle
went, "Ding-dong...AY-von calling".
That's also how I remember it....
My father once told me that the name of the Tred Avon River in Maryland,
on the Eastern Shore of Chesapeake Bay, is pronounced with a short 'a'
(as in "have"). My parents have a house on the Tred Avon, but they use
it mostly for weekends and have only owned it two years; so they may
not qualify as authorities on Eastern Shore English. But then again,
there's an increasing number of people like them on the Eastern Shore
these days, so the language and pronunciation there may change....
Todo
Kijin Jung
In a previous article, p...@math.psu.edu (Todd Andrew Simpson) says:
>yo...@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes...
> In article <CA7Kv...@newsflash.concordia.ca> mc...@alcor.concordia.ca (John McKay) writes:
> >Who pronounces the initial syllable in "Avon" as in
> >"have" and who as in "say"?
> >
> From what I remember of the commercial for the Avon company,
> they use the 'AY-von' pronunciation. I believe the jingle
> went, "Ding-dong...AY-von calling".
>
>My father once told me that the name of the Tred Avon River in Maryland,
>on the Eastern Shore of Chesapeake Bay, is pronounced with a short 'a'
>(as in "have"). My parents have a house on the Tred Avon, but they use
>it mostly for weekends and have only owned it two years; so they may
>not qualify as authorities on Eastern Shore English. But then again,
>there's an increasing number of people like them on the Eastern Shore
>these days, so the language and pronunciation there may change....
I live in Avon Lake, Ohio, which incidentally is next to Avon, Ohio,
near a road called Avon Lake Boulevard, and all are pronounced ay-von...
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William R. Ward
) In article <CA7Kv...@newsflash.concordia.ca> mc...@alcor.concordia.ca (John McKay) writes:
)>Who pronounces the initial syllable in "Avon" as in
)>"have" and who as in "say"?
)
) From what I remember of the commercial for the Avon company,
) they use the 'AY-von' pronunciation. I believe the jingle
) went, "Ding-dong...AY-von calling".
Note that's AY-von, not AY-vun. When I was in New Zealand, I remember
some place called Avon (I was about 10 at the time, I don't remember
if it was a city or a river or what), and they pronounced it "AY-vun."
Another thing I remember from that trip was the pronunciation of the
shoe manufacturer Adidas. In the States we pronounce it "Ah DEE dahz";
I remember in NZ hearing it as "ah dee DAHZ." What's it like in the
rest of the world?
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whee...@logica.co.uk
Isn't there also a river in the US, called the Thames, but which is pronounced
"Thayms" (with the "Th" as in "think")? As everyone is aware, the British
pronounce it "Temms", except at Oxford, where it sounds like "Isis".
Steve
Todd Andrew Simpson
Isn't there also a river in the US, called the Thames, but which is pronounced
"Thayms" (with the "Th" as in "think")? As everyone is aware, the British
pronounce it "Temms", except at Oxford, where it sounds like "Isis".
There is a Thames River in Connecticut, and now I think of it I seem to
remember that it is generally pronounced "Thayms".
Todo
Raphael Mankin
>Who pronounces the initial syllable in "Avon" as in
>"have" and who as in "say"?
>
Always as in "say". Unless it is Welsh and written "afon".
Variants are "Aune" and "Aveton" (pron. "awtn"). Ekwall: Dictionary of English
Place Names.
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wildstrom
>whee...@logica.co.uk writes...
There are both a Thames and an Avon in southern Ontario. Both are pronounced
English-style. London, Ont., is on the Thames, of course, while Stratford
is on the Avon.
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Detlef Lannert
[...]
>Another thing I remember from that trip was the pronunciation of the
>shoe manufacturer Adidas. In the States we pronounce it "Ah DEE dahz";
>I remember in NZ hearing it as "ah dee DAHZ." What's it like in the
>rest of the world?
Since Adidas used to be a German firm, I feel compelled to contribute
my 0.2 bits. The name of the company was derived from the (ex) proprietor's
name; if my memory serves me right, a certain Adi (short for Adolf)
Dassler. Pronunciation? Well, something like "Ah-dee-dahss", all vowels
being fairly short.
Btw, rumour has it that Mr Adidas' brother was in sports articles as well.
Not being on good terms with each other, the other firm was given a totally
different name: Puma. (Not an acronym, afaik.)
The more athletic readers of a.u.e might be able to correct me if/where
I'm wrong ...
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Robert L. McMillin
> In article <HERMIT.93J...@am.ucsc.edu> her...@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
>>Another thing I remember from that trip was the pronunciation of the
>>shoe manufacturer Adidas. In the States we pronounce it "Ah DEE dahz";
>>I remember in NZ hearing it as "ah dee DAHZ." What's it like in the
>>rest of the world?
> Since Adidas used to be a German firm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So, when did it cease to be a German firm?
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Steve Hayes
>>There is a Thames River in Connecticut, and now I think of it I seem to
>>remember that it is generally pronounced "Thayms".
>>
>>
>>Todo
>>
>
>I believe the city of New London sits on it.
I presume it is pronounced so as to rhyme with condom.
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Todd Andrew Simpson
In article <22f7e5$3...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> da...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard N Kitchen) writes:
>>There is a Thames River in Connecticut, and now I think of it I seem to
>>remember that it is generally pronounced "Thayms".
>>
>>Todo
>>
>
>I believe the city of New London sits on it.
I presume it is pronounced so as to rhyme with condom.
No, it is pronounced so as to rhyme with sit. (At least it is
pronounced that way in America....)
Todo
Richard N Kitchen
In a previous article, haye...@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes) says:
>In article <22f7e5$3...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> da...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard N Kitchen) writes:
>
>>>There is a Thames River in Connecticut, and now I think of it I seem to
>>>remember that it is generally pronounced "Thayms".
>>>
>>>
>>>Todo
>>>
>>
>>I believe the city of New London sits on it.
>
>I presume it is pronounced so as to rhyme with condom.
Londom? I don't think so. It's Luhnduhn.
>
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>Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa
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> steve...@p1.f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
>FAQ: Missiology is the study of Christian mission and is part of
> the Faculty of Theology at Unisa
>
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Phil Andrews
>Another thing I remember from that trip was the pronunciation of the
>shoe manufacturer Adidas. In the States we pronounce it "Ah DEE dahz";
>I remember in NZ hearing it as "ah dee DAHZ." What's it like in the
>rest of the world?
In a rare discard of equivocation I think we can `pronounce' on the
correct choice in this matter. The Adidas company was founded by the
German, Adi Dassler, or at least this is what I was told in the days
(long gone) when athletic shoe manufacturers gave me free shoes in the
(probably mistaken) belief that it would somehow help them in their
struggle with opposing manufacturers.
Thus I believe the common U.S. pronunciation to be quite incorrect.
Incidentally, the major antagonist to the Adidas multinational
conglomeration in those days was the Puma sporting apparel organization;
founded (again, to my best knowledge) by another Dassler, Adi's brother.
-Phil Andrews
Detlef Lannert
>> Since Adidas used to be a German firm
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>So, when did it cease to be a German firm?
According to my "Wer gehoert wem", Adidas is owned (80%) by Bernard Tapie.
This may have changed recently as Monsieur Tapie got into some (financial
and other) trouble himself, if my memory serves me right.