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Is it 'promoted as' or 'promoted to' or either?

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Dingbat

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May 19, 2017, 4:20:20 AM5/19/17
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Is it 'promoted as' or 'promoted to' or either?

Indian English invariably has 'promoted as' where Anglophones use 'promoted to'.
Indians who favor British English consider 'promoted as' to be an Indianism or
an error. Yet, I find 'promoted as' in a publication outside India:

<<Born in in Ohio in 1940, Roger Ailes graduated from Ohio University and began
his career as a property assistant for NBC News’ Cleveland affiliate. While
there, Ailes became a producer and was promoted as an executive producer of
the affiliate’s “The Mike Douglas Show.”>>
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/end-era-roger-ailes-lion-fox-news-dead-77/

Richard Tobin

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May 19, 2017, 5:30:02 AM5/19/17
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In article <4920de91-86fe-4d8c...@googlegroups.com>,
Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Is it 'promoted as' or 'promoted to' or either?

Promoted to. Especially since "promoted as" normally means something
different: the drug was promoted as an alternative to aspirin.

-- Richard

Dingbat

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May 19, 2017, 5:51:43 AM5/19/17
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If this error isn't peculiar to India, is it a common error among some subset
of Anglophones too?

Jerry Friedman

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May 19, 2017, 7:43:07 AM5/19/17
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Not a subset that I know, but maybe it will spread. By conservation
of "as", it disappears from "as I said" and even "cold as fuck" (for
some speakers where I live) and increases in "considered as", "labeled
as", "designated as", "called as", etc.

--
Jerry Friedman
Strong like bull

bebe...@aol.com

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May 19, 2017, 3:46:26 PM5/19/17
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But the difference is that, etymologically, "promoted" implies movement
forward and should therefore logically be followed by "to".

Harrison Hill

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May 19, 2017, 4:07:28 PM5/19/17
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Perfectly good English in my SW London BrE. The two senses
of "promoted" - "brought to the top" - are combined :)

Peter Moylan

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May 20, 2017, 7:41:35 AM5/20/17
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I read the original as meaning that he was an executive producer before
he was promoted. Presumably there is a higher "executive producer" rank.

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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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May 21, 2017, 3:26:40 AM5/21/17
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On 2017-05-20 11:41:32 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> On 2017-May-20 06:07, Harrison Hill wrote:
>> On Friday, 19 May 2017 09:20:20 UTC+1, Dingbat wrote:
>>> Is it 'promoted as' or 'promoted to' or either?
>>>
>>> Indian English invariably has 'promoted as' where Anglophones use
>>> 'promoted to'.
>>> Indians who favor British English consider 'promoted as' to be an Indianism or
>>> an error. Yet, I find 'promoted as' in a publication outside India:
>>>
>>> <<Born in in Ohio in 1940, Roger Ailes graduated from Ohio University and began
>>> his career as a property assistant for NBC News’ Cleveland affiliate. While
>>> there, Ailes became a producer and was promoted as an executive producer of
>>> the affiliate’s “The Mike Douglas Show.”>>
>>> http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/end-era-roger-ailes-lion-fox-news-dead-77/
>>
>> Perfectly good English in my SW London BrE. The two senses
>> of "promoted" - "brought to the top" - are combined :)
>
> I read the original as meaning that he was an executive producer before
> he was promoted.

I thought that was a possible reading from the beginning.

If the sentence were shorter, say "He was promoted as an executive
producer", then rearranging it would make that the only reasonable
reading, "As an executive producer, he was promoted". However, the
whole long sentence makes that reading more problematic.

> Presumably there is a higher "executive producer" rank.


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athel

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