Straight gangsta!

[hongy...@gmail.com]

A friend of mine told me the following phrase:

Straight gangsta!

And e said the meaning of it is "Awesome!".

Any more hints/comments/explanations on the origin of this phrase?

Regards,
HY

[Bebercito]

Straight gangstas must be at odds with arse bandits.

>
> Regards,
> HY

[David Kleinecke]

There is a demographic in the USA and perhaps elsewhere for whom
"gangster" is used as an adjective meaning "praiseworthy". "gangsta "
is an AAVE version. I imagine that "straight" is used here as a nonce
emphatic rather than as part of an idiom.

Styles are fads and I believe "gangster" is already out-of-date.

[Tony Cooper]

It's the name of a rap song that you can listen to here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbbmezpHIA

You can't understand the meaning unless you can understand the lyrics
in this. (I don't, and I wouldn't attempt to try.) I can go as far
as to tell you that "Straight", in this context, means "Pure" or
"Real" or "Authentic" and "Gangsta" is a either a member of an urban
African American gang or a wannabe member. So, something Straight
Gangsta would be authentically part of that culture.

I do understand it well enough to know that no one who uses the phrase
"Straight Gangsta" would ever describe anything as "Awesome!".

Two completely different cultures are involved. You are a member of
neither.



--

Tony Cooper Orlando Florida

[Tony Cooper]

I meant to add...

That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in the
form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and other versions
meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.

[CDB]

On 8/9/2021 12:45 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:

> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "hongy...@gmail.com" <hongy...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> A friend of mine told me the following phrase:

>>> Straight gangsta!

>>> And e said the meaning of it is "Awesome!".

>>> Any more hints/comments/explanations on the origin of this
>>> phrase?

>> It's the name of a rap song that you can listen to here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvbbmezpHIA

>> You can't understand the meaning unless you can understand the
>> lyrics in this. (I don't, and I wouldn't attempt to try.) I can
>> go as far as to tell you that "Straight", in this context, means
>> "Pure" or "Real" or "Authentic" and "Gangsta" is a either a member
>> of an urban African American gang or a wannabe member. So,
>> something Straight Gangsta would be authentically part of that
>> culture.

>> I do understand it well enough to know that no one who uses the
>> phrase "Straight Gangsta" would ever describe anything as
>> "Awesome!".

>> Two completely different cultures are involved. You are a member
>> of neither.

> I meant to add...

> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in
> the form of "the straight skivvy",

The longs and shorts of it?

"the straight dope", and other versions
> meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.

--

Why, yes, I has been listening to Squirrely Dans. Whys do you asks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj11qyaAN_I

[CDB]

On 8/9/2021 12:11 AM, David Kleinecke wrote:

> Bebercito wrote:
>> hongy...@gmail.com a écrit:

>>> A friend of mine told me the following phrase:

>>> Straight gangsta!

>>> And e said the meaning of it is "Awesome!".

>>> Any more hints/comments/explanations on the origin of this
>>> phrase?
>> Straight gangstas must be at odds with arse bandits.

> There is a demographic in the USA and perhaps elsewhere for whom
> "gangster" is used as an adjective meaning "praiseworthy". "gangsta
> " is an AAVE version. I imagine that "straight" is used here as a
> nonce emphatic rather than as part of an idiom.

It seems to be in use for emphasis in some places. Eleanor Shellstrop in
_The Good Place_ describes herself (and I think one or two other women
-- Tahani Al-Jamil and maybe Mindy St. Claire) as "a straight hottie"
more than once; the context is sometimes her sexual attraction to them.

[Paul Carmichael]

El Mon, 09 Aug 2021 00:45:13 -0400, Tony Cooper escribió:

> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in the
> form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and other versions
> meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.

As in "straight up" for "really"?


--
Paul.

https://paulc.es/elpatio

[Peter T. Daniels]

I doubt that anyone has ever used "gangster" that way. "Gangsta"
seems to mean 'typical of current (at the time of speaking) fashions
in the community concerned'.

Kinda like "nigga" was acceptable and the underlying "full" form is not.

[Jerry Friedman]

Damn straight.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Tony Cooper]

On Mon, 9 Aug 2021 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 12:11:42 AM UTC-4, dklei...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:13:08 PM UTC-7, Bebercito wrote:

>> > Le lundi 9 aoūt 2021 ą 03:19:10 UTC+2, hongy...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> > > A friend of mine told me the following phrase:
>> > > Straight gangsta!
>> > > And e said the meaning of it is "Awesome!".
>> > > Any more hints/comments/explanations on the origin of this phrase?
>> > Straight gangstas must be at odds with arse bandits.
>>
>> There is a demographic in the USA and perhaps elsewhere for whom
>> "gangster" is used as an adjective meaning "praiseworthy". "gangsta "
>> is an AAVE version. I imagine that "straight" is used here as a nonce
>> emphatic rather than as part of an idiom.
>
>I doubt that anyone has ever used "gangster" that way. "Gangsta"
>seems to mean 'typical of current (at the time of speaking) fashions
>in the community concerned'.
>

Yes. The word "gangster" can only be used to describe a person
engaged in criminal activities, but "gangsta" can describe anything
from clothing style to attitude.

Further, a person can be "gangsta" without being involved in anything
criminal. Appearance, swagger, clothing, and music preference can
make one "gangsta".

>Kinda like "nigga" was acceptable and the underlying "full" form is not.
>
>> Styles are fads and I believe "gangster" is already out-of-date.

[Sam Plusnet]

On 09-Aug-21 5:45, Tony Cooper wrote:
> I meant to add...
>
> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in the
> form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and other versions
> meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.

"Give it to me straight Doc. I can take it."

(No doubt after downing a straight slug of whisky.)

--
Sam Plusnet
Wales, UK

[Sam Plusnet]

Whilst Dams are usually curved.

[Ken Blake]

I thought about that for a while, and then decided you are probably
wrong. I think big dams are usually curved, but small ones are always
(almost always?) straight. And there are many more small dams than big
ones.

--
Ken

[Snidely]

Sam Plusnet asserted that:

Or a slug of straight whisky.

/dps

--
Who, me? And what lacuna?

[Quinn C]

* David Kleinecke:

> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 7:13:08 PM UTC-7, Bebercito wrote:
>> Le lundi 9 août 2021 à 03:19:10 UTC+2, hongy...@gmail.com a écrit :
>>> A friend of mine told me the following phrase:
>>>
>>> Straight gangsta!
>>>
>>> And e said the meaning of it is "Awesome!".
>>>
>>> Any more hints/comments/explanations on the origin of this phrase?
>> Straight gangstas must be at odds with arse bandits.
>
> There is a demographic in the USA and perhaps elsewhere for whom
> "gangster" is used as an adjective meaning "praiseworthy". "gangsta "
> is an AAVE version.

Maybe so, but AIUI, the non-AAVE version can't be used for praise. Only
"gangsta" works.

--
In the old days, the complaints about the passing of the
golden age were much more sophisticated.
-- James Hogg in alt.usage.english

[Sam Plusnet]

In straitened times, one drinks what one can get.

[Peter Moylan]

I have always thought that dams would be stronger if they curved inwards
rather than outwards. Some day I should ask a civil engineer about this,
because the experts obviously disagree with me.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

[Peter Moylan]

If I was about to have my leg cut off without anaesthetic, I would
definitely ask them to give it to me straight.

[Snidely]

Peter Moylan was thinking very hard :

<URL:https://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/images/Hoover-Dam-slide1.jpg>

/dps

--
As a colleague once told me about an incoming manager,
"He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
Bill in Vancouver

[Snidely]

Lo, on the 8/9/2021, Snidely did proclaim ...

> Peter Moylan was thinking very hard :
>> On 10/08/21 06:33, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2021 12:25 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 09-Aug-21 14:46, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 10:45:18 PM UTC-6, Tony Cooper
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I meant to add...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture
>>>>>> in the form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and
>>>>>> other versions meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn straight.
>>>>>
>>>> Whilst Dams are usually curved.
>>>
>>> I thought about that for a while, and then decided you are probably
>>> wrong. I think big dams are usually curved, but small ones are always
>>> (almost always?) straight. And there are many more small dams than
>>> big ones.
>>
>> I have always thought that dams would be stronger if they curved inwards
>> rather than outwards. Some day I should ask a civil engineer about this,
>> because the experts obviously disagree with me.
>
> <URL:https://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/images/Hoover-Dam-slide1.jpg>
>

Bonneville Dam is straighter, except that it's in several pieces, and
only about a third as high (171 ft vs 726 ft).

<URL:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Corps-engineers-archives_bonneville_dam_looking_east.jpg>

/dps

--
Ieri, oggi, domani

[Peter Moylan]

On 10/08/21 14:32, Snidely wrote:
> Peter Moylan was thinking very hard :
>> On 10/08/21 06:33, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2021 12:25 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>>> On 09-Aug-21 14:46, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 10:45:18 PM UTC-6, Tony Cooper
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I meant to add...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white
>>>>>> culture in the form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight
>>>>>> dope", and other versions meaning the "authentic" or "real"
>>>>>> story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn straight.
>>>>>
>>>> Whilst Dams are usually curved.
>>>
>>> I thought about that for a while, and then decided you are
>>> probably wrong. I think big dams are usually curved, but small
>>> ones are always (almost always?) straight. And there are many
>>> more small dams than big ones.
>>
>> I have always thought that dams would be stronger if they curved
>> inwards rather than outwards. Some day I should ask a civil
>> engineer about this, because the experts obviously disagree with
>> me.
>
> <URL:https://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/images/Hoover-Dam-slide1.jpg>

Now that you mention it, I realise that that's a common shape for a dam.
So my reasoning about the stresses was correct. It was my memory of dam
shapes that was faulty.

[Tony Cooper]

Just keep beavering away in thinking about it, and it will come back
to you.

[Peter T. Daniels]

The New Croton Dam, built between 1892 and 1906, is straight. It's about
20 miles north of NYC. We went up there in '65 to view the solar eclipse.

Here's an album of photos

https://loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=Photograph:%20ny1163&fi=number&op=PHRASE&va=exact&co%20=hh&st=gallery&sg%20=%20true

and here's a brief history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Croton_Dam

There's a park/picnic area at its base. It's pretty impressive and
intimidating from below.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

!Warning! do *not* down a whisk of straight slugs (not that there are any; bunch of queers the lot of them)

(note this post is not intended to denigrate non-straight non-slugs).

>
> --
> Sam Plusnet
> Wales, UK

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

[Quinn C]

* Kerr-Mudd, John:

> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 00:47:47 +0100
> Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09-Aug-21 23:41, Snidely wrote:
>>> Sam Plusnet asserted that:
>>>> On 09-Aug-21 5:45, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>> I meant to add...
>>>>>
>>>>> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in the
>>>>> form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and other versions
>>>>> meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.
>>>>
>>>> "Give it to me straight Doc.  I can take it."
>>>>
>>>> (No doubt after downing a straight slug of whisky.)
>>>
>>> Or a slug of straight whisky.
>>>
>>
>> In straitened times, one drinks what one can get.
>>
>
> !Warning! do *not* down a whisk of straight slugs

What about a whisk of whelks?

> (not that there are any; bunch of queers the lot of them)

Hermaphrodites, they are.

This recipe for slug patties involves whisking:
<https://rwotton.blogspot.com/2015/07/eating-slugs-and-fascinating-defence.html>

--
The seeds of new thought, sown in a ground that isn't prepared
to receive them, don't bear fruit.
-- Hedwig Dohm (1874), my translation

[Sam Plusnet]

Doesn't concrete resist applied loads much better in compression than
when under tension?
That shape achieves that.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:58:27 -0400
Quinn C <lispa...@crommatograph.info> wrote:

> * Kerr-Mudd, John:
>
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 00:47:47 +0100
> > Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 09-Aug-21 23:41, Snidely wrote:
> >>> Sam Plusnet asserted that:
> >>>> On 09-Aug-21 5:45, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >>>>> I meant to add...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That definition of "Straight" has been present in white culture in the
> >>>>> form of "the straight skivvy", "the straight dope", and other versions
> >>>>> meaning the "authentic" or "real" story.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Give it to me straight Doc.  I can take it."
> >>>>
> >>>> (No doubt after downing a straight slug of whisky.)
> >>>
> >>> Or a slug of straight whisky.
> >>>
> >>
> >> In straitened times, one drinks what one can get.
> >>
> >
> > !Warning! do *not* down a whisk of straight slugs
>
> What about a whisk of whelks?
>
> > (not that there are any; bunch of queers the lot of them)
>
> Hermaphrodites, they are.
>
> This recipe for slug patties involves whisking:
> <https://rwotton.blogspot.com/2015/07/eating-slugs-and-fascinating-defence.html>
>

I'm willing to forgo that, so your very kindly provided link is unopened here.

[Quinn C]

You pass on "a readily available source of protein", as they advertise
it? Well, I guess those who don't want already have, as we say in
German.

--
The notion that there might be a "truth" of sex, as Foucault
ironically terms it, is produced precisely through the regulatory
practices that generate coherent identities through the matrix of
coherent gender norms. -- Judith Butler