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Athel Cornish-Bowden
Oct 3, 2014, 11:35:48 AM10/3/14
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Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
events bring it home to others.
Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
stand up in a bus.
--
athel
day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
events bring it home to others.
Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
stand up in a bus.
--
athel
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 3, 2014, 11:51:00 AM10/3/14
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Athel Cornish-Bowden skrev:
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
For me it's looking at a kid on tv talking about something and
then learning from the text at the bottom that he is a CEO of a
multi billion <money unit> company.
> Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
Yesterday I travelled with two of my grandsons, aged 2 and 4. A
woman in her thirties abandoned her seat so the kids could sit
down. Later in the train another younger woman did the same.
If I remember correctly, I haven't been offered a seat in bus or
train. I am 66 years old, and I think I look my age though a
neighbour and later a former pupil both were surprised at the
fact.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
then learning from the text at the bottom that he is a CEO of a
multi billion <money unit> company.
> Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
woman in her thirties abandoned her seat so the kids could sit
down. Later in the train another younger woman did the same.
If I remember correctly, I haven't been offered a seat in bus or
train. I am 66 years old, and I think I look my age though a
neighbour and later a former pupil both were surprised at the
fact.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Charles Bishop
Oct 3, 2014, 12:09:53 PM10/3/14
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In article <c97u2g...@mid.individual.net>,
Not quite the same thing, but I bought a shake[1] at a fast food
emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
senior discount without even asking for ID.
[1] We did this, yes? I bought a milk shake, but it was from a machine
that makes it all in one go. It had the mouth feel and taste of a "real"
milk shake so who am I to say it wasn't
[2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
Charles
emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
senior discount without even asking for ID.
[1] We did this, yes? I bought a milk shake, but it was from a machine
that makes it all in one go. It had the mouth feel and taste of a "real"
milk shake so who am I to say it wasn't
[2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
Charles
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Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Oct 3, 2014, 12:13:25 PM10/3/14
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 17:35:48 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
>day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
>find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
>We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>events bring it home to others.
>
I've had the experience a few times of seeing two young girls, one some
<athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
>day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
>find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
>We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>events bring it home to others.
>
years younger than the other, and assuming they were sisters. After
getting the brain in gear and observing their behaviour for a few
seconds I've realised that they were mother and daughter.
>Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
>declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
>stand up in a bus.
--
(in alt.usage.english)
Tony Cooper
Oct 3, 2014, 12:27:05 PM10/3/14
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or discounted drinks to seniors. I don't have to ask for the senior
rate anymore.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Helen Lacedaemonian
Oct 3, 2014, 12:37:13 PM10/3/14
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Best,
Helen
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 3, 2014, 4:19:57 PM10/3/14
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Peter Duncanson [BrE] skrev:
> I've had the experience a few times of seeing two young girls, one some
> years younger than the other, and assuming they were sisters. After
> getting the brain in gear and observing their behaviour for a few
> seconds I've realised that they were mother and daughter.
Some mothers are fighting quite hard and expensively to look as
young as their daughters.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> I've had the experience a few times of seeing two young girls, one some
> years younger than the other, and assuming they were sisters. After
> getting the brain in gear and observing their behaviour for a few
> seconds I've realised that they were mother and daughter.
young as their daughters.
--
Bertel, Denmark
quia...@yahoo.com
Oct 3, 2014, 4:38:37 PM10/3/14
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in their thirties feels it necessary to tell me how well I'm doing. I
guess at my 15 minute pace I look decrepit enough to condescend to.
--
John
Mike L
Oct 3, 2014, 5:37:29 PM10/3/14
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dreamed up.
--
Mike.
Helen Lacedaemonian
Oct 3, 2014, 7:17:07 PM10/3/14
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Best,
Helen
John Varela
Oct 3, 2014, 9:49:43 PM10/3/14
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70. (I just turned 79.)
--
John Varela
John Varela
Oct 3, 2014, 9:56:31 PM10/3/14
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:09:53 UTC, Charles Bishop
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Not quite the same thing, but I bought a shake[1] at a fast food
> emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
> the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
> senior discount without even asking for ID.
Not quite to the thread subject, but I recall when we were 55 we ate
<ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Not quite the same thing, but I bought a shake[1] at a fast food
> emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
> the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
> senior discount without even asking for ID.
at one of those steak-and-salad-bar places, where 55 was the age for
a senior discount. At the cashier desk, my wife paused a long time
debating with herself whether it was worth $1.50 to tell this snip
of a girl that she was 55 years old.
Now that we're pushing 80 no one ever asks for proof of age. At many
places, however, you won't get the discount unless you ask for it.
To tell the truth, I don't know why there should be any senior
discounts unless it's to draw in the business; if your competitors
are doing it than I guess you have to do likewise.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Oct 3, 2014, 10:00:00 PM10/3/14
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> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
Overheard in the locker room at the golf club: "One advantage of
> events bring it home to others.
being bald is that you can comb your hair with a paper towel."
--
John Varela
Peter Moylan
Oct 4, 2014, 12:07:47 AM10/4/14
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On 04/10/14 02:09, Charles Bishop wrote:
> [2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
> yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
> looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
I worry about my dentist. He's older than my teeth. What will I do when
> [2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
> yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
> looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
he's gone?
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
R H Draney
Oct 4, 2014, 1:53:49 AM10/4/14
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Peter Moylan filted:
I'm still not getting the automatic assumption from strangers that I'm old
enough to qualify for a discount...the hair should be a lot grayer than it is by
this point (although the mustache long ago lost all its original pigment, and
skipping a shave for four days at a stretch informs me that everything below the
earholes is in the same state)....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>On 04/10/14 02:09, Charles Bishop wrote:
>
>> [2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
>> yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
>> looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
>
>I worry about my dentist. He's older than my teeth. What will I do when
>he's gone?
You should be asking that question about your teeth, not about your dentist....
>On 04/10/14 02:09, Charles Bishop wrote:
>
>> [2] Everybody is getting younger. I'm fortunate in that a doctor I saw
>> yesterday, while he didn't look like a contemporary of mine, at least
>> looked like he had spent some time after med school doing doctor stuff.
>
>I worry about my dentist. He's older than my teeth. What will I do when
>he's gone?
I'm still not getting the automatic assumption from strangers that I'm old
enough to qualify for a discount...the hair should be a lot grayer than it is by
this point (although the mustache long ago lost all its original pigment, and
skipping a shave for four days at a stretch informs me that everything below the
earholes is in the same state)....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Dr Nick
Oct 4, 2014, 2:59:49 AM10/4/14
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happened over the last 8 to 10 years. One unexpected benefit is that I
no longer have to shave for a second time that day before going out in
the evening.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
Oct 4, 2014, 3:51:58 AM10/4/14
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doesn't happen often, but it does occasionally) it's much less obvious
than it would have been 50 years ago.
--
athel
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 6:25:28 AM10/4/14
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
Mine has been growing worse over the past few years. I had heard
there might be some treatment, and visited a specialist who said I
was misinformed. He did suggest masking it with background sounds,
because paying attention to it tends to make it worse. I've found
that the rushing of the wind when I'm bicycling is the perfect
masking sound. White water of a nearby river works too, but there are
no nearby rivers.
--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
--Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com
> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
Mine has been growing worse over the past few years. I had heard
there might be some treatment, and visited a specialist who said I
was misinformed. He did suggest masking it with background sounds,
because paying attention to it tends to make it worse. I've found
that the rushing of the wind when I'm bicycling is the perfect
masking sound. White water of a nearby river works too, but there are
no nearby rivers.
--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
--Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com
Guy Barry
Oct 4, 2014, 7:50:27 AM10/4/14
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"Stan Brown" wrote in message
news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>Mine has been growing worse over the past few years. I had heard
>there might be some treatment, and visited a specialist who said I
>was misinformed. He did suggest masking it with background sounds,
>because paying attention to it tends to make it worse. I've found
>that the rushing of the wind when I'm bicycling is the perfect
>masking sound. White water of a nearby river works too, but there are
>no nearby rivers.
I'm only 48, but I have very mild tinnitus in my right ear. I can only hear
the noise when there's absolute silence, normally late at night (although
funnily enough I can hear it now). It used to bother me but now I happily
ignore it. I wouldn't like it to get any worse though.
--
Guy Barry
news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>Mine has been growing worse over the past few years. I had heard
>there might be some treatment, and visited a specialist who said I
>was misinformed. He did suggest masking it with background sounds,
>because paying attention to it tends to make it worse. I've found
>that the rushing of the wind when I'm bicycling is the perfect
>masking sound. White water of a nearby river works too, but there are
>no nearby rivers.
the noise when there's absolute silence, normally late at night (although
funnily enough I can hear it now). It used to bother me but now I happily
ignore it. I wouldn't like it to get any worse though.
--
Guy Barry
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Oct 4, 2014, 8:18:49 AM10/4/14
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her pickup line was too arousing your over-excitement might have lead to
a "medical emergency".
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 4, 2014, 8:29:18 AM10/4/14
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Stan Brown skrev:
>> Well, there's tinnitus...
> Mine has been growing worse over the past few years.
Mine has only grown worse when I have gone to a concert. The
volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go to
concerts any more.
I forget it when I concentrate on something else. Bicycling is
also fine.
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> Well, there's tinnitus...
> Mine has been growing worse over the past few years.
volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go to
concerts any more.
I forget it when I concentrate on something else. Bicycling is
also fine.
--
Bertel, Denmark
James Silverton
Oct 4, 2014, 8:45:19 AM10/4/14
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unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
that's exactly what happened.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
Peter T. Daniels
Oct 4, 2014, 9:38:50 AM10/4/14
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On Saturday, October 4, 2014 7:50:27 AM UTC-4, Guy Barry wrote:
> >On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
> pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
In one ubiquitous radio commercial, it is. I think they were selling a
> >On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
> pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
pill for it. (A "supplement," not a "drug," so not susceptible to FDA
requirements for testing.)
Jerry Friedman
Oct 4, 2014, 10:01:30 AM10/4/14
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On 10/4/14 5:50 AM, Guy Barry wrote:
> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
...
> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
--
Jerry Friedman
Don Phillipson
Oct 4, 2014, 10:09:42 AM10/4/14
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"Athel Cornish-Bowden" <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c97u2g...@mid.individual.net...
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
10 or 15 years ago. If not once, twice ought to have been enough
of a warning that I need to make new and different plans -- even if the
capacity to do so is prima facie diminishing, so I had better hurry.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
news:c97u2g...@mid.individual.net...
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
10 or 15 years ago. If not once, twice ought to have been enough
of a warning that I need to make new and different plans -- even if the
capacity to do so is prima facie diminishing, so I had better hurry.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 12:13:47 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:29:18 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Mine has only grown worse when I have gone to a concert. The
> volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go to
> concerts any more.
>
Maybe you're going to the wrong concerts. :-) I don't think Brahms
> Mine has only grown worse when I have gone to a concert. The
> volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go to
> concerts any more.
>
piano quartets can blow out anyone's eardrums.
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 12:14:58 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:45:19 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
> that's exactly what happened.
>
Interesting. I think I've had this all my life, or at least for
> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
> that's exactly what happened.
>
decades, so it it were going to even out it would have happened by
now. But I'll keep a good thought.
Did you have tinnitus in both ears, or just one?
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 12:15:28 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:01:30 -0600, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
>
It doesn't matter -- we can't hear you over the ringing in our ears.
> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
>
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 12:16:39 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)? Because of that
> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
very thing, a couple of years ago I started keeping a list.
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 4, 2014, 12:30:08 PM10/4/14
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Stan Brown skrev:
>> Mine has only grown worse when I have gone to a concert. The
>> volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go
>> to concerts any more.
> Maybe you're going to the wrong concerts. :-)
That is no doubt true - for a suitable definition of "wrong".
The last one was a mistake. The band has been known for it's
not-loud concerts, but the musicians had all been replaced, and
the volume was extreme. I left after the first session, but it
really worsened my tinnitus so I now hear it all the time unless
I am very concentrated or have external sources of noise/sound.
> I don't think Brahms piano quartets can blow out anyone's
> eardrums.
No, but classical concerts in general can be quite noisy as well.
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> Mine has only grown worse when I have gone to a concert. The
>> volume at concerts today is pervers. I have decided not to go
>> to concerts any more.
> Maybe you're going to the wrong concerts. :-)
The last one was a mistake. The band has been known for it's
not-loud concerts, but the musicians had all been replaced, and
the volume was extreme. I left after the first session, but it
really worsened my tinnitus so I now hear it all the time unless
I am very concentrated or have external sources of noise/sound.
> I don't think Brahms piano quartets can blow out anyone's
> eardrums.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 4, 2014, 12:34:32 PM10/4/14
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Stan Brown skrev:
>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>> 10 or 15 years ago.
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
"judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
regularly.
> Because of that very thing, a couple of years ago I started
> keeping a list.
Where did I put the bloody list!?
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>> 10 or 15 years ago.
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
"judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
regularly.
> Because of that very thing, a couple of years ago I started
> keeping a list.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Peter T. Daniels
Oct 4, 2014, 1:39:42 PM10/4/14
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On Saturday, October 4, 2014 12:34:32 PM UTC-4, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
> that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
> was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
> "judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
> regularly.
That's called "tip of the tongue phenomenon" -- do you have an
> It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
> that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
> was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
> "judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
> regularly.
expression for when that happens, "It's on the tip of my tongue"?
-- and it's very useful for insights into the structuring of the
mental lexicon.
Charles Bishop
Oct 4, 2014, 1:47:09 PM10/4/14
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In article <MPG.2e99e76eb...@news.individual.net>,
same books.
I also have duplicates of several tools, including some power tools, but
that's more easily explained.
--
charles
Stan Brown <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
> > Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> > library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> > 10 or 15 years ago.
> >
>
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)? Because of that
> very thing, a couple of years ago I started keeping a list.
If only I'd thought of that before ending up with multiple copies of the
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
> > Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> > library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> > 10 or 15 years ago.
> >
>
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)? Because of that
> very thing, a couple of years ago I started keeping a list.
same books.
I also have duplicates of several tools, including some power tools, but
that's more easily explained.
--
charles
Charles Bishop
Oct 4, 2014, 1:48:53 PM10/4/14
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In article <m0p7ho$2g8$1...@dont-email.me>,
Bertel Lund Hansen <kanon...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
> >> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> >> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> >> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
> > Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
>
> It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
> that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
> was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
> "judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
> regularly.
You hadn't the presence of mind to remember "konduite"?
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
> >> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> >> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> >> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
> > Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
>
> It also happens more frequently that I cannot remember a word
> that I know and think of in an abstract sort of way. Recently it
> was the word "konduite" which can be translated to
> "judgement/presence of mind" - a word that I use not often, but
> regularly.
>
> > Because of that very thing, a couple of years ago I started
> > keeping a list.
>
> Where did I put the bloody list!?
--
charles
> > Because of that very thing, a couple of years ago I started
> > keeping a list.
>
> Where did I put the bloody list!?
--
James Silverton
Oct 4, 2014, 2:23:55 PM10/4/14
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On 10/4/2014 12:14 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:45:19 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>> that's exactly what happened.
>>
>
> Interesting. I think I've had this all my life, or at least for
> decades, so it it were going to even out it would have happened by
> now. But I'll keep a good thought.
>
> Did you have tinnitus in both ears, or just one?
>
It been one ear at a time.
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:45:19 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>> that's exactly what happened.
>>
>
> Interesting. I think I've had this all my life, or at least for
> decades, so it it were going to even out it would have happened by
> now. But I'll keep a good thought.
>
> Did you have tinnitus in both ears, or just one?
>
James Silverton
Oct 4, 2014, 2:33:20 PM10/4/14
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simultaneously but I've become resigned to it. As you say, a note book
helps!
Joe Fineman
Oct 4, 2014, 5:59:20 PM10/4/14
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Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes:
> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
> do.)
My doctor agrees with you.
> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
> do.)
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net
||: When you find what you're looking for, it's always in the :||
||: last place you thought of. :||
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Robert Bannister
Oct 4, 2014, 7:04:21 PM10/4/14
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problem is inserting too many syllables. I learned the French verb
"tintinnabuler" at school from a poem and somehow it stuck so that I
still find it very hard not to say "tintinnitis" in English (stress on
the "eye" of course).
--
Robert Bannister - 1940-71 SE England
1972-now W Australia
Robert Bannister
Oct 4, 2014, 7:08:05 PM10/4/14
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On 5/10/2014 12:16 am, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>>
>
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)? Because of that
> very thing, a couple of years ago I started keeping a list.
>
Worse for me because I have become addicted to buying books on line and
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, Don Phillipson wrote:
>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>>
>
> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)? Because of that
> very thing, a couple of years ago I started keeping a list.
>
I rarely keep records of what I have ordered. My local library loves me
because I donate all my pristine duplicate books to them. The only
really bad one was a set of DVDs that was quite expensive. Serves me right.
Robert Bannister
Oct 4, 2014, 7:09:49 PM10/4/14
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On 5/10/2014 12:34 am, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
I do that fairly frequently. Usually, I have to go back to where I
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
started from and think of a reason to go to that room. It doesn't always
work.
Mike L
Oct 4, 2014, 8:23:31 PM10/4/14
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me. My condition does cause me to puff and sag a bit sometimes even
now; but in the early days I was offered seats by women two or three
times.
--
Mike.
Stan Brown
Oct 4, 2014, 8:40:17 PM10/4/14
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the "unbalanced frequencies" explanation doesn't apply to me.
Unfortunately.
Mike L
Oct 4, 2014, 8:41:13 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 10:09:42 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
heard myself talking to myself in the street: "Oh, no! I'm talking to
myself in the street!" I then realised that I'd said _that_ aloud,
too.
One serious thing I notice with advancing age is an increasing
affection for young people. Of course I envy them some things, but I
don't grudge them. As testosterone dwindles and grandfatherhood
increases, I also find new reasons for loving: it's positively
enriching to be able to view young women in ways less fuddled with
hormones.
--
Mike.
annily
Oct 4, 2014, 9:18:48 PM10/4/14
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think is tinnitus at various times), but my left ear distorts sound at
loud concerts, just like an overloaded speaker.
--
Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
"Talking to yourself is only a problem if you get a response you don't
understand".
annily
Oct 4, 2014, 9:23:11 PM10/4/14
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second, although I've only heard /tI'naIt@s/ relatively recently.
quia...@yahoo.com
Oct 4, 2014, 9:27:51 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:50:27 +0100, "Guy Barry"
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>"Stan Brown" wrote in message
>news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>
>>On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
>A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
>pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
Interesting. I went to my primary care doctor and told him I thought I
<guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>"Stan Brown" wrote in message
>news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>
>>On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>
>A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it was
>pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
had TINNitus, and he said "Tin-EYE-tus"? So then I went to the ear
doctor, and the same thing happened. Too hard to swim against the
tide.
--
John
John Varela
Oct 4, 2014, 9:47:11 PM10/4/14
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:45:19 UTC, James Silverton
<not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
> that's exactly what happened.
I don't think anyone really knows what causes it.
<not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
> that's exactly what happened.
The theory I've heard is that because we lose higher frequencies as
we age, the brain tries to compensate by cranking up the treble
gain. Since the loss of highs occurs in the ear and not in the
brain, the brain's strategy eventually fails and the gain remains
cranked up too high. This results in the ringing we hear. The ear
doctor I went to said there is no cure; if there were one he would
have had his own tinnitus corrected.
Oh, and it's thought that tinnitus may be caused by exposure to loud
noises. I've belatedly started wearing ear protection while mowing
the lawn.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Oct 4, 2014, 9:52:42 PM10/4/14
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I do a classical education I didn't know that. So now I know why
Poe, who evidently did have a classical education, was carrying on
about tintinabulation.
If we want to know how the word is properly pronounced, all we need
to do is find someone who speaks Latin without an accent.
Personally, I put the stress on the first syllable, as is done by
the medical people I've heard pronounce it. Which is only one or
two.
--
John Varela
R H Draney
Oct 4, 2014, 10:22:55 PM10/4/14
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Mike L filted:
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>Yes, I'm a bit like that, too. But I was only in my forties when I
>heard myself talking to myself in the street: "Oh, no! I'm talking to
>myself in the street!" I then realised that I'd said _that_ aloud,
>too.
Wear a bluetooth earpiece and nobody will even notice....r
>Yes, I'm a bit like that, too. But I was only in my forties when I
>heard myself talking to myself in the street: "Oh, no! I'm talking to
>myself in the street!" I then realised that I'd said _that_ aloud,
>too.
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Jerry Friedman
Oct 4, 2014, 10:29:23 PM10/4/14
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On 10/4/14 3:59 PM, Joe Fineman wrote:
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
>> do.)
>
> My doctor agrees with you.
In not knowing what to do?
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
>> do.)
>
> My doctor agrees with you.
--
Jerry Friedman
Peter Moylan
Oct 5, 2014, 2:05:35 AM10/5/14
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On 05/10/14 12:47, John Varela wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:45:19 UTC, James Silverton
> <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>> that's exactly what happened.
>
> I don't think anyone really knows what causes it.
>
> The theory I've heard is that because we lose higher frequencies as
> we age, the brain tries to compensate by cranking up the treble
> gain. Since the loss of highs occurs in the ear and not in the
> brain, the brain's strategy eventually fails and the gain remains
> cranked up too high. This results in the ringing we hear. The ear
> doctor I went to said there is no cure; if there were one he would
> have had his own tinnitus corrected.
A few years ago I was testing a sound generator, and discovered that I
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:45:19 UTC, James Silverton
> <not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>> that's exactly what happened.
>
> I don't think anyone really knows what causes it.
>
> The theory I've heard is that because we lose higher frequencies as
> we age, the brain tries to compensate by cranking up the treble
> gain. Since the loss of highs occurs in the ear and not in the
> brain, the brain's strategy eventually fails and the gain remains
> cranked up too high. This results in the ringing we hear. The ear
> doctor I went to said there is no cure; if there were one he would
> have had his own tinnitus corrected.
had a sharp resonance in my hearing: one particular frequency sounded
excessively loud. That made me suspect that the resonance was the cause
of my tinnitus.
These days the tinnitus is so mild that I hardly notice it [1], so I
never followed through. I did notice, though, that the test equipment
used by audiologists is crude by electrical engineering standards, and
not at all suitable for testing one's frequency response. If anyone did
have a resonance, it would never be picked up by that equipment.
[1] Now that the subject has been raised it's back again, so I hope this
thread doesn't have much of a lifetime.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Peter Moylan
Oct 5, 2014, 2:07:43 AM10/5/14
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On 05/10/14 08:59, Joe Fineman wrote:
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
>> do.)
>
> My doctor agrees with you.
I used to have the same misconception as Guy. Once my GP corrected my
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to
>> do.)
>
> My doctor agrees with you.
pronunciation, I realised that my earlier version would have meant
inflammation of the tinn.
Peter Moylan
Oct 5, 2014, 2:11:37 AM10/5/14
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On 05/10/14 00:09, Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Athel Cornish-Bowden" <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c97u2g...@mid.individual.net...
>
>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>> events bring it home to others.
>
> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> 10 or 15 years ago. If not once, twice ought to have been enough
> of a warning that I need to make new and different plans -- even if the
> capacity to do so is prima facie diminishing, so I had better hurry.
At least it was only a library book. On a couple of occasions I've
> "Athel Cornish-Bowden" <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c97u2g...@mid.individual.net...
>
>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>> events bring it home to others.
>
> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
> 10 or 15 years ago. If not once, twice ought to have been enough
> of a warning that I need to make new and different plans -- even if the
> capacity to do so is prima facie diminishing, so I had better hurry.
bought books that I already own.
Peter Moylan
Oct 5, 2014, 2:17:29 AM10/5/14
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On 04/10/14 17:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2014-10-04 06:59:49 +0000, Dr Nick said:
>
>> "John Varela" <newl...@verizon.net> writes:
>>> being bald is that you can comb your hair with a paper towel."
>>
>> I'm now - just turned 51 so still young - almost entirely grey, it's
>> happened over the last 8 to 10 years. One unexpected benefit is that I
>> no longer have to shave for a second time that day before going out in
>> the evening.
>
> Yes, I've noticed that. If I don't shave for two or three days (it
> doesn't happen often, but it does occasionally) it's much less obvious
> than it would have been 50 years ago.
I started shaving only about a year ago. For most of my life I had a
full beard, but then I switched to having a beard only on the chin.
Initially I had to shave only about once a week. Even now I shave only
about every third day. Between shaves the stubble is visible, but not
especially noticeable. Of course the colour has something to do with it.
One reason I changed the shape of my beard is that I have dark hair on
my head, but very white hair on the sides of my face.
> On 2014-10-04 06:59:49 +0000, Dr Nick said:
>
>> "John Varela" <newl...@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:35:48 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>> <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>>>> events bring it home to others.
>>>
>>> Overheard in the locker room at the golf club: "One advantage of
>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:35:48 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>> <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>>>> events bring it home to others.
>>>
>>> being bald is that you can comb your hair with a paper towel."
>>
>> I'm now - just turned 51 so still young - almost entirely grey, it's
>> happened over the last 8 to 10 years. One unexpected benefit is that I
>> no longer have to shave for a second time that day before going out in
>> the evening.
>
> Yes, I've noticed that. If I don't shave for two or three days (it
> doesn't happen often, but it does occasionally) it's much less obvious
> than it would have been 50 years ago.
I started shaving only about a year ago. For most of my life I had a
full beard, but then I switched to having a beard only on the chin.
Initially I had to shave only about once a week. Even now I shave only
about every third day. Between shaves the stubble is visible, but not
especially noticeable. Of course the colour has something to do with it.
One reason I changed the shape of my beard is that I have dark hair on
my head, but very white hair on the sides of my face.
Guy Barry
Oct 5, 2014, 3:25:06 AM10/5/14
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"Jerry Friedman" wrote in message news:m0oumt$iib$1...@news.albasani.net...
pronunciation was an error. I was rather surprised to check my dictionary
just now (Longman New Universal) and see that [tIn'aIt@s] is the only
pronunciation given, but it's a 1982 edition, so maybe that pronunciation's
been superseded in BrE. (Macmillan online gives only first-syllable stress
in BrE, but both versions for AmE.)
--
Guy Barry
>
>On 10/4/14 5:50 AM, Guy Barry wrote:
>> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>>
>> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
>> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>...
>
>On 10/4/14 5:50 AM, Guy Barry wrote:
>> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>>
>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>>
>> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
>> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>...
>
>Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On the
>other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
['tInIt@s] seems to be standard over here, and I always assumed my
>corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On the
>other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
pronunciation was an error. I was rather surprised to check my dictionary
just now (Longman New Universal) and see that [tIn'aIt@s] is the only
pronunciation given, but it's a 1982 edition, so maybe that pronunciation's
been superseded in BrE. (Macmillan online gives only first-syllable stress
in BrE, but both versions for AmE.)
--
Guy Barry
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 5, 2014, 5:14:02 AM10/5/14
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R H Draney skrev:
>>Yes, I'm a bit like that, too. But I was only in my forties when I
>>heard myself talking to myself in the street: "Oh, no! I'm talking to
>>myself in the street!" I then realised that I'd said _that_ aloud,
>>too.
> Wear a bluetooth earpiece and nobody will even notice....r
ROTFL :-)
--
Bertel, Denmark
>>Yes, I'm a bit like that, too. But I was only in my forties when I
>>heard myself talking to myself in the street: "Oh, no! I'm talking to
>>myself in the street!" I then realised that I'd said _that_ aloud,
>>too.
> Wear a bluetooth earpiece and nobody will even notice....r
--
Bertel, Denmark
Cheryl
Oct 5, 2014, 5:36:23 AM10/5/14
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they send you a message saying something like "According to our records,
you already bought this book".
It's happened to me more than once.
--
Cheryl
Athel Cornish-Bowden
Oct 5, 2014, 5:59:35 AM10/5/14
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hairs growing of my chin (I noticed this when I had a beard).
--
athel
Stan Brown
Oct 5, 2014, 7:42:54 AM10/5/14
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obAUE: Apologies! I do know how to spell the word, but U and I are
next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
either I or U, UI is produced. Gravity's spell checker doesn't check
subject lines, AND its editor presents them in a font too small for
me to read reliably. (They're readable when I read a posted article;
but by then it's to late.)
I know -- it's a poor workman who blames his tools. I've tried
various newsreaders, and I keep coming back to Gravity because it has
fewer annoying problems than others I've tried.
next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
either I or U, UI is produced. Gravity's spell checker doesn't check
subject lines, AND its editor presents them in a font too small for
me to read reliably. (They're readable when I read a posted article;
but by then it's to late.)
I know -- it's a poor workman who blames his tools. I've tried
various newsreaders, and I keep coming back to Gravity because it has
fewer annoying problems than others I've tried.
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 5, 2014, 7:45:51 AM10/5/14
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Cheryl skrev:
> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the
> same place, they send you a message saying something like
> "According to our records, you already bought this book".
Amazon keeps a backup of all one's purchases, and one can access
them when logged in.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the
> same place, they send you a message saying something like
> "According to our records, you already bought this book".
them when logged in.
--
Bertel, Denmark
Stan Brown
Oct 5, 2014, 7:46:52 AM10/5/14
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On 5 Oct 2014 01:47:11 GMT, John Varela wrote:
>
> The theory I've heard is that because we lose higher frequencies as
> we age, the brain tries to compensate by cranking up the treble
> gain. Since the loss of highs occurs in the ear and not in the
> brain, the brain's strategy eventually fails and the gain remains
> cranked up too high. This results in the ringing we hear. The ear
> doctor I went to said there is no cure; if there were one he would
> have had his own tinnitus corrected.
That's pretty much what my specialist told me. I surmise that he
>
> The theory I've heard is that because we lose higher frequencies as
> we age, the brain tries to compensate by cranking up the treble
> gain. Since the loss of highs occurs in the ear and not in the
> brain, the brain's strategy eventually fails and the gain remains
> cranked up too high. This results in the ringing we hear. The ear
> doctor I went to said there is no cure; if there were one he would
> have had his own tinnitus corrected.
recommended keeping background noise going so that the brain wouldn't
have to crank up the gain. But I pretty much always have music
playing at home, so either that strategy doesn't work for me, or it
works partially and my tinnitus would have been much worse otherwise.
> Oh, and it's thought that tinnitus may be caused by exposure to loud
> noises. I've belatedly started wearing ear protection while mowing
> the lawn.
lot of difference for me.
Stan Brown
Oct 5, 2014, 7:49:23 AM10/5/14
to
On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 07:42:54 -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
>
> obAUE: Apologies! I do know how to spell the word, but U and I are
> next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
> either I or U, UI is produced. Gravity's spell checker doesn't check
> subject lines, AND its editor presents them in a font too small for
> me to read reliably. (They're readable when I read a posted article;
> but by then it's to late.)
>
> I know -- it's a poor workman who blames his tools. I've tried
> various newsreaders, and I keep coming back to Gravity because it has
> fewer annoying problems than others I've tried.
And I have created a perfect illustration of the problem. :-(
>
> obAUE: Apologies! I do know how to spell the word, but U and I are
> next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
> either I or U, UI is produced. Gravity's spell checker doesn't check
> subject lines, AND its editor presents them in a font too small for
> me to read reliably. (They're readable when I read a posted article;
> but by then it's to late.)
>
> I know -- it's a poor workman who blames his tools. I've tried
> various newsreaders, and I keep coming back to Gravity because it has
> fewer annoying problems than others I've tried.
Stan Brown
Oct 5, 2014, 7:52:04 AM10/5/14
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On 5 Oct 2014 01:52:42 GMT, John Varela wrote:
> If we want to know how the word is properly pronounced, all we need
> to do is find someone who speaks Latin without an accent.
That would tell us how it would be pronounced in Latin, but not how
> If we want to know how the word is properly pronounced, all we need
> to do is find someone who speaks Latin without an accent.
it's pronounced in English. :-)
I pronounce it sometimes one way, sometimes the other. AHD4 lists
both, as I think someone has already noted, with a comma between.
Stan Brown
Oct 5, 2014, 8:00:06 AM10/5/14
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:06:23 -0230, Cheryl wrote:
> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the same place,
> they send you a message saying something like "According to our records,
> you already bought this book".
>
Amazon is very good about this. A message appears at the top of the
> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the same place,
> they send you a message saying something like "According to our records,
> you already bought this book".
>
screen BEFORE I click "purchase".
By the way, for those who may not know:
Every day, Amazon drops the price of a lot of e-books to zero for the
day. (You don't need a Kindle to take advantage of these; Amazon
offers a free reader for PCs, iPhones, and other devices.)
Most seem to be bodice rippers or books about zombies, but there are
occasionally a few others. Weeding through them takes too much time,
so I check kindlebuffet.com daily. There are only about 15 to 20
listed there every day, and of those I find about five a week that
look interesting enough to download.
Naturally I have far more books on my Kindle than I've had time to
read. Amazon tends to repeat some of the free choices at intervals of
a few months, and it's not unusual for me once a week I click on an
interesting one in kindlebuffet and seen Amazon's note that I already
own it. So far it hasn't happened with one I've actually read, but
I'm sure that's only a matter of time.
the Omrud
Oct 5, 2014, 8:41:56 AM10/5/14
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On 03/10/2014 16:35, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
> day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
> find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
> Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
> day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
> find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
>
> events bring it home to others.
>
> Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
A couple of years ago I was at a company dinner, sitting next to one of
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
the our new graduates. We seemed to be getting on quite well, until she
went and spoiled it by telling me that I reminded her of her dad.
--
David
the Omrud
Oct 5, 2014, 8:43:57 AM10/5/14
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On 04/10/2014 02:56, John Varela wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:09:53 UTC, Charles Bishop
> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Not quite the same thing, but I bought a shake[1] at a fast food
>> emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
>> the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
>> senior discount without even asking for ID.
>
> Not quite to the thread subject, but I recall when we were 55 we ate
> at one of those steak-and-salad-bar places, where 55 was the age for
> a senior discount. At the cashier desk, my wife paused a long time
> debating with herself whether it was worth $1.50 to tell this snip
> of a girl that she was 55 years old.
>
> Now that we're pushing 80 no one ever asks for proof of age. At many
> places, however, you won't get the discount unless you ask for it.
>
> To tell the truth, I don't know why there should be any senior
> discounts unless it's to draw in the business; if your competitors
> are doing it than I guess you have to do likewise.
The barber's where I get my hair cut has a discount for senior citizens
at off-peak hours. I always go in the middle of the day to avoid any
rush, and because my working hours are quite flexible. I've noticed
that they have started asking me if I'm working today/busy at work, etc,
presumably to check if I'm retired.
--
David
> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:09:53 UTC, Charles Bishop
> <ctbi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Not quite the same thing, but I bought a shake[1] at a fast food
>> emporium and it was cheaper than I had thought it would be. Looking at
>> the receipt, I found the extremely young[2] cashier had given me a
>> senior discount without even asking for ID.
>
> Not quite to the thread subject, but I recall when we were 55 we ate
> at one of those steak-and-salad-bar places, where 55 was the age for
> a senior discount. At the cashier desk, my wife paused a long time
> debating with herself whether it was worth $1.50 to tell this snip
> of a girl that she was 55 years old.
>
> Now that we're pushing 80 no one ever asks for proof of age. At many
> places, however, you won't get the discount unless you ask for it.
>
> To tell the truth, I don't know why there should be any senior
> discounts unless it's to draw in the business; if your competitors
> are doing it than I guess you have to do likewise.
The barber's where I get my hair cut has a discount for senior citizens
at off-peak hours. I always go in the middle of the day to avoid any
rush, and because my working hours are quite flexible. I've noticed
that they have started asking me if I'm working today/busy at work, etc,
presumably to check if I'm retired.
--
David
Mike Barnes
Oct 5, 2014, 11:22:17 AM10/5/14
to
Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
> day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
> find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
This goes back a few decades but I clearly remember the first time a
> Mike made a reference to his testosterone-challenged state in the last
> day or two, but I can't find it now, so I'll start a new thread. I also
> find that the testosterone is not as much in evidence as it once was.
>
> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
> events bring it home to others.
child addressed me as "mister".
--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
Mike Barnes
Oct 5, 2014, 11:21:06 AM10/5/14
to
Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
I've had the same thing happen to me. While I was dressed and equipped
> Yesterday a woman offered me her seat in a bus. I thanked her, but
> declined, while feeling sorry to learn that I now look too decrepit to
> stand up in a bus.
for ski mountaineering.
Similarly hotel porters offer to carry my luggage when my luggage is a
large rucksack, on my back, and my general state makes it pretty clear
that I've been carrying it for some time.
Mike Barnes
Oct 5, 2014, 11:27:08 AM10/5/14
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why. At least with a haircut it's plausible that older customers could
be processed more quickly.
Mike Barnes
Oct 5, 2014, 11:31:25 AM10/5/14
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Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Stan Brown skrev:
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
That happens to me occasionally. But more often, I'll go into a room,
see something that needs attention, deal with it, leave the room, then
realise that I had completely forgotten about whatever it was that I
went in there to do.
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
That happens to me occasionally. But more often, I'll go into a room,
see something that needs attention, deal with it, leave the room, then
realise that I had completely forgotten about whatever it was that I
went in there to do.
the Omrud
Oct 5, 2014, 12:56:50 PM10/5/14
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block of deck-access flats was asking me to throw his ball back up.
--
David
Anton Shepelev
Oct 5, 2014, 1:20:30 PM10/5/14
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Bertel Lund Hansen skrev:
> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
> any more.
That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
acoustic ones. I see (or hear) little value in such
performances because they tend to sound worse than
decent recordings played through good equipment. On
the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to
be wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea-
son to argue with that.
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> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
> any more.
That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
acoustic ones. I see (or hear) little value in such
performances because they tend to sound worse than
decent recordings played through good equipment. On
the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to
be wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea-
son to argue with that.
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Anton Shepelev
Oct 5, 2014, 1:41:50 PM10/5/14
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Peter Moylan:
> A few years ago I was testing a sound generator,
> and discovered that I had a sharp resonance in my
> hearing: one particular frequency sounded exces-
> sively loud. That made me suspect that the reso-
you ensure the flattnes of the generator's FR in-
strumentally and with sufficient resolution?
> A few years ago I was testing a sound generator,
> and discovered that I had a sharp resonance in my
> sively loud. That made me suspect that the reso-
> nance was the cause of my tinnitus.
Did you listen to it in a anechoric chamber? Did
you ensure the flattnes of the generator's FR in-
strumentally and with sufficient resolution?
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 5, 2014, 2:07:03 PM10/5/14
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Anton Shepelev skrev:
>> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
>> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
>> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
>> any more.
> That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
> ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
> acoustic ones.
It was.
> I see (or hear) little value in such performances because they
> tend to sound worse than decent recordings played through good
> equipment.
I disagree entirely.
> On the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to be
> wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea- son to argue
> with that.
As I said, concerts with an acoustic band can be very loud too,
and many of the musicians have tinnitus themselves.
--
Bertel, Denmark
>> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
>> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
>> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
>> any more.
> That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
> ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
> acoustic ones.
> I see (or hear) little value in such performances because they
> tend to sound worse than decent recordings played through good
> equipment.
> On the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to be
> wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea- son to argue
> with that.
and many of the musicians have tinnitus themselves.
--
Bertel, Denmark
LFS
Oct 5, 2014, 2:36:57 PM10/5/14
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On 05/10/2014 13:00, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:06:23 -0230, Cheryl wrote:
>> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the same place,
>> they send you a message saying something like "According to our records,
>> you already bought this book".
>>
>
> Amazon is very good about this. A message appears at the top of the
> screen BEFORE I click "purchase".
>
> By the way, for those who may not know:
>
> Every day, Amazon drops the price of a lot of e-books to zero for the
> day. (You don't need a Kindle to take advantage of these; Amazon
> offers a free reader for PCs, iPhones, and other devices.)
>
Amazon UK sends me a daily message about e-books at reduced prices but
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 07:06:23 -0230, Cheryl wrote:
>> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the same place,
>> they send you a message saying something like "According to our records,
>> you already bought this book".
>>
>
> Amazon is very good about this. A message appears at the top of the
> screen BEFORE I click "purchase".
>
> By the way, for those who may not know:
>
> Every day, Amazon drops the price of a lot of e-books to zero for the
> day. (You don't need a Kindle to take advantage of these; Amazon
> offers a free reader for PCs, iPhones, and other devices.)
>
they are never completely free.
--
Laura (emulate St George for email)
LFS
Oct 5, 2014, 2:44:58 PM10/5/14
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On 05/10/2014 02:52, John Varela wrote:
> I do a classical education I didn't know that. So now I know why
> Poe, who evidently did have a classical education, was carrying on
> about tintinabulation.
> the medical people I've heard pronounce it. Which is only one or
> two.
>
Lots of people have said it to me recently and they've all placed the
stress on the first syllable.
I keep being asked if I have it because it is apparently a normal
symptom of the condition I've been diagnosed with. I keep saying no
because I have always assumed from reports by sufferers that it is a
troubling condition, of which I would be constantly aware if I had it.
But now I'm wondering if the gentle background noise that I always live
with is a form of tinnitus. I rather like it.
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 14:01:30 UTC, Jerry Friedman
> <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/4/14 5:50 AM, Guy Barry wrote:
>>> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>>>
>>> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>>> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
>>> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>> ...
>>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
>
> The word comes directly from Latin, and means "ringing". Lacking as
> <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/4/14 5:50 AM, Guy Barry wrote:
>>> "Stan Brown" wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.2e999525b...@news.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:38:37 -0500, quia...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> Well, there's tinnitus...
>>>
>>> A word that I had difficulty with for a long time, because I confused it
>>> with the names of medical conditions ending in "-itis" and assumed it
>>> was pronounced to rhyme with them, i.e. tin-EYE-tus
>> ...
>>
>> Opposite for me. My intuition said /'tIn@t@s/ "TINNitus", but people
>> corrected me to /tI'naIt@s/, the first pronunciation in the AHD. (On
>> the other hand, M-W has /'tIn@t@s/ first. Now I don't know what to do.)
>
> I do a classical education I didn't know that. So now I know why
> Poe, who evidently did have a classical education, was carrying on
> about tintinabulation.
>
> If we want to know how the word is properly pronounced, all we need
> to do is find someone who speaks Latin without an accent.
> Personally, I put the stress on the first syllable, as is done by
> If we want to know how the word is properly pronounced, all we need
> to do is find someone who speaks Latin without an accent.
> the medical people I've heard pronounce it. Which is only one or
> two.
>
Lots of people have said it to me recently and they've all placed the
stress on the first syllable.
I keep being asked if I have it because it is apparently a normal
symptom of the condition I've been diagnosed with. I keep saying no
because I have always assumed from reports by sufferers that it is a
troubling condition, of which I would be constantly aware if I had it.
But now I'm wondering if the gentle background noise that I always live
with is a form of tinnitus. I rather like it.
LFS
Oct 5, 2014, 2:55:40 PM10/5/14
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was when I realised that my students were younger than my children. The
second was when I realised that my students' parents were younger than I
was. Then one day a new student came to see me with greetings from her
grandfather, a former colleague.
A young man offered me his seat on the tube the other day. This is only
the second time that has happened. The train was very crowded and I was
very grateful.
Until quite recently I used to offer my seat to elderly people on buses
but these days I poke the nearest younger person and suggest that they
stand up. (I am temporarily using a walking stick and it turns out to be
very useful for pointing and poking.)
Dr Nick
Oct 5, 2014, 3:25:28 PM10/5/14
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Bertel Lund Hansen <kanon...@lundhansen.dk> writes:
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
I've developed the computer version of that. I find that I've opened a
> Stan Brown skrev:
>
>>> Today I realized that I had three times in the last year sent to the
>>> library for a book (supposed important) that I had already read
>>> 10 or 15 years ago.
>
>> Isn't that embarrassing (even if no one else knows)?
>
> I sometimes find myself in one of my rooms wondering: Why did I
> go here? Then I have to back up, and then I usually suddenly
> remember: Oh yes, I wanted <something>.
browser tab with a search engine but have no idea what I was I was about
to search for.
Dr Nick
Oct 5, 2014, 3:50:22 PM10/5/14
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Anton Shepelev <anto...@gmail.com> writes:
> Bertel Lund Hansen skrev:
>
>> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
>> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
>> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
>> any more.
>
> That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
> ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
> acoustic ones. I see (or hear) little value in such
> performances because they tend to sound worse than
> decent recordings played through good equipment. On
> the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to
> be wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea-
> son to argue with that.
Yes, but you don't go for the acoustic quality of the performance. You
> Bertel Lund Hansen skrev:
>
>> Mine [tinnitus] has only grown worse when I have
>> gone to a concert. The volume at concerts today
>> is pervers. I have decided not to go to concerts
>> any more.
>
> That must have been a concert involving synthesiz-
> ers, electro-musical instruments, or amplified
> acoustic ones. I see (or hear) little value in such
> performances because they tend to sound worse than
> decent recordings played through good equipment. On
> the other hand, acoustic performances are thought to
> be wholesome for the hearing, and I haven't had rea-
> son to argue with that.
go for the chance to see the performers, for the atmosphere, for the
opportunity to sing along with hundreds of other people, for ...
It's about soul, not quality metrics.
Says he who was here on Tuesday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM7Vc2ACOWo&feature=share
I don't know why it goes out of focus early one - it comes back.
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 5, 2014, 4:02:19 PM10/5/14
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Dr Nick skrev:
> Yes, but you don't go for the acoustic quality of the performance.
I do. That is 90 % of my experience.
> You go for the chance to see the performers,
5 %.
> for the atmosphere,
5 %.
> for the opportunity to sing along with hundreds of
> other people, for ...
0 %.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> Yes, but you don't go for the acoustic quality of the performance.
> You go for the chance to see the performers,
> for the atmosphere,
5 %.
> for the opportunity to sing along with hundreds of
> other people, for ...
--
Bertel, Denmark
Bertel Lund Hansen
Oct 5, 2014, 4:04:19 PM10/5/14
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LFS skrev:
> Amazon UK sends me a daily message about e-books at reduced
> prices but they are never completely free.
I have stumbled over a couple of free books by chance.
--
Bertel, Denmark
> Amazon UK sends me a daily message about e-books at reduced
> prices but they are never completely free.
--
Bertel, Denmark
James Silverton
Oct 5, 2014, 4:07:26 PM10/5/14
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the sweaty fat singers. I know there are some relatively slim singers
but not as many as I would like. It's one of the reasons I like movies
of operas. One of the best I remember was Ingmar Bergman's version of
the Magic Flute with attractive believable young singers even if they
were using Swedish.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
Helen Lacedaemonian
Oct 5, 2014, 4:55:40 PM10/5/14
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Best,
Helen
Jerry Friedman
Oct 5, 2014, 4:56:26 PM10/5/14
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going to get worse.
--
Jerry Friedman
the Omrud
Oct 5, 2014, 5:36:52 PM10/5/14
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lists of the most popular "purchases".
--
David
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Oct 5, 2014, 5:36:58 PM10/5/14
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overwhelmed by the frantic changes in the image.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Joe Fineman
Oct 5, 2014, 5:42:35 PM10/5/14
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Mike Barnes <mikeba...@gmail.com> writes:
> Similarly hotel porters offer to carry my luggage when my luggage is a
> large rucksack, on my back, and my general state makes it pretty clear
> that I've been carrying it for some time.
Hoping for a tip, perhaps -- like those bums that used to "wash" my
> Similarly hotel porters offer to carry my luggage when my luggage is a
> large rucksack, on my back, and my general state makes it pretty clear
> that I've been carrying it for some time.
windshield while I was stopped at a red light.
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net
||: When the Big Bang happened, I said "What the hell was :||
||: *that*?" :||
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:01:26 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:43:57 UTC, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The barber's where I get my hair cut has a discount for senior citizens
> at off-peak hours. I always go in the middle of the day to avoid any
> rush, and because my working hours are quite flexible. I've noticed
> that they have started asking me if I'm working today/busy at work, etc,
> presumably to check if I'm retired.
Our neighborhood barber shop also gives a senior discount for those
over 60. It used to be that when I claimed it, if the employee was
new she would ask me to confirm my age even though at the time I was
seventyish. A friend who was then in his eighties happened to be in
one of the chairs and I exclaimed, "See, Bert? They don't think I'm
over 60!" He growled, "They're working for tips," which led to loud
protestation, half of it in the Vietnamese language.
--
John Varela
wrote:
> The barber's where I get my hair cut has a discount for senior citizens
> at off-peak hours. I always go in the middle of the day to avoid any
> rush, and because my working hours are quite flexible. I've noticed
> that they have started asking me if I'm working today/busy at work, etc,
> presumably to check if I'm retired.
over 60. It used to be that when I claimed it, if the employee was
new she would ask me to confirm my age even though at the time I was
seventyish. A friend who was then in his eighties happened to be in
one of the chairs and I exclaimed, "See, Bert? They don't think I'm
over 60!" He growled, "They're working for tips," which led to loud
protestation, half of it in the Vietnamese language.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:02:16 PM10/5/14
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John Varela
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:18:45 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 20:04:19 UTC, Bertel Lund Hansen
<kanon...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
> LFS skrev:
>
> > Amazon UK sends me a daily message about e-books at reduced
> > prices but they are never completely free.
>
> I have stumbled over a couple of free books by chance.
You're probably already aware that many books in the public domain
<kanon...@lundhansen.dk> wrote:
> LFS skrev:
>
> > Amazon UK sends me a daily message about e-books at reduced
> > prices but they are never completely free.
>
> I have stumbled over a couple of free books by chance.
(Austen, Dumas, etc.) are free for Kindle.
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John Varela
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:26:50 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 00:41:13 UTC, Mike L <n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> One serious thing I notice with advancing age is an increasing
> affection for young people. Of course I envy them some things, but I
> don't grudge them. As testosterone dwindles and grandfatherhood
> increases, I also find new reasons for loving: it's positively
> enriching to be able to view young women in ways less fuddled with
> hormones.
I have read that it's a normal part of aging to want to mentor young
people. It certainly happened to me when I was in my fifties. One of
the things I have missed in retirement is associating with young
people. Outside of family and their friends, almost everyone I know
is over 70.
I do, however, appreciate young women. Not that it does me any good.
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John Varela
> One serious thing I notice with advancing age is an increasing
> affection for young people. Of course I envy them some things, but I
> don't grudge them. As testosterone dwindles and grandfatherhood
> increases, I also find new reasons for loving: it's positively
> enriching to be able to view young women in ways less fuddled with
> hormones.
I have read that it's a normal part of aging to want to mentor young
people. It certainly happened to me when I was in my fifties. One of
the things I have missed in retirement is associating with young
people. Outside of family and their friends, almost everyone I know
is over 70.
I do, however, appreciate young women. Not that it does me any good.
--
John Varela
Mike L
Oct 5, 2014, 7:31:53 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 11:59:35 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>On 2014-10-05 06:17:29 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>> On 04/10/14 17:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2014-10-04 06:59:49 +0000, Dr Nick said:
>>>
>>>> "John Varela" <newl...@verizon.net> writes:
>>>>> being bald is that you can comb your hair with a paper towel."
>>>>
>>>> I'm now - just turned 51 so still young - almost entirely grey, it's
>>>> happened over the last 8 to 10 years. One unexpected benefit is that I
>>>> no longer have to shave for a second time that day before going out in
>>>> the evening.
>>>
>>> Yes, I've noticed that. If I don't shave for two or three days (it
>>> doesn't happen often, but it does occasionally) it's much less obvious
>>> than it would have been 50 years ago.
>>
>> I started shaving only about a year ago. For most of my life I had a
>> full beard, but then I switched to having a beard only on the chin.
>>
>> Initially I had to shave only about once a week. Even now I shave only
>> about every third day. Between shaves the stubble is visible, but not
>> especially noticeable. Of course the colour has something to do with it.
>> One reason I changed the shape of my beard is that I have dark hair on
>> my head, but very white hair on the sides of my face.
>
>Even in the days when the hair on my head was very dark, I had white
>hairs growing of my chin (I noticed this when I had a beard).
My dark-haired uncle grew a red beard in the Navy.
--
Mike.
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>On 2014-10-05 06:17:29 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>> On 04/10/14 17:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2014-10-04 06:59:49 +0000, Dr Nick said:
>>>
>>>> "John Varela" <newl...@verizon.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:35:48 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>>>> <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>>>>>> events bring it home to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Overheard in the locker room at the golf club: "One advantage of
>>>>> On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 15:35:48 UTC, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>>>> <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're mostly on the senior side at AUE, so I'm wondering what sort of
>>>>>> events bring it home to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> being bald is that you can comb your hair with a paper towel."
>>>>
>>>> I'm now - just turned 51 so still young - almost entirely grey, it's
>>>> happened over the last 8 to 10 years. One unexpected benefit is that I
>>>> no longer have to shave for a second time that day before going out in
>>>> the evening.
>>>
>>> Yes, I've noticed that. If I don't shave for two or three days (it
>>> doesn't happen often, but it does occasionally) it's much less obvious
>>> than it would have been 50 years ago.
>>
>> I started shaving only about a year ago. For most of my life I had a
>> full beard, but then I switched to having a beard only on the chin.
>>
>> Initially I had to shave only about once a week. Even now I shave only
>> about every third day. Between shaves the stubble is visible, but not
>> especially noticeable. Of course the colour has something to do with it.
>> One reason I changed the shape of my beard is that I have dark hair on
>> my head, but very white hair on the sides of my face.
>
>Even in the days when the hair on my head was very dark, I had white
>hairs growing of my chin (I noticed this when I had a beard).
My dark-haired uncle grew a red beard in the Navy.
--
Mike.
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:32:34 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:41:56 UTC, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> A couple of years ago I was at a company dinner, sitting next to one of
> the our new graduates. We seemed to be getting on quite well, until she
> went and spoiled it by telling me that I reminded her of her dad.
When I was still working I had more than one intelligent, perfectly
desireable 20-something young woman tell me that I had been like a
father to her. That's both an upper and a downer. As a friend said,
I have reached the age where if a young woman on the street gives me
a smile it's probably because I remind her of her grandfather.
--
John Varela
wrote:
> A couple of years ago I was at a company dinner, sitting next to one of
> the our new graduates. We seemed to be getting on quite well, until she
> went and spoiled it by telling me that I reminded her of her dad.
desireable 20-something young woman tell me that I had been like a
father to her. That's both an upper and a downer. As a friend said,
I have reached the age where if a young woman on the street gives me
a smile it's probably because I remind her of her grandfather.
--
John Varela
John Varela
Oct 5, 2014, 7:36:38 PM10/5/14
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 18:55:40 UTC, LFS
<la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
> (I am temporarily using a walking stick and it turns out to be
> very useful for pointing and poking.)
An umbrella is good for that. A standing joke between my wife and me
<la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
> (I am temporarily using a walking stick and it turns out to be
> very useful for pointing and poking.)
involves her poking an umbrella into a man's back while exclaiming
"Young man! Young man!" As far as I know she's never actually done
that, but the day is coming...
--
John Varela
Robert Bannister
Oct 5, 2014, 7:51:26 PM10/5/14
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--
Robert Bannister - 1940-71 SE England
1972-now W Australia
Robert Bannister
Oct 5, 2014, 7:53:50 PM10/5/14
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On 5/10/2014 7:45 pm, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
> Cheryl skrev:
> them when logged in.
>
But I buy books from Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.de as well as
from the Book Depository, Fishpond and a few others, so it's still not a
quick thing to do.
> Cheryl skrev:
>
>> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the
>> same place, they send you a message saying something like
>> "According to our records, you already bought this book".
>
> Amazon keeps a backup of all one's purchases, and one can access
>> Fortunately, with e-books, as long as you get them from the
>> same place, they send you a message saying something like
>> "According to our records, you already bought this book".
>
> them when logged in.
>
But I buy books from Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk and Amazon.de as well as
from the Book Depository, Fishpond and a few others, so it's still not a
quick thing to do.
Robert Bannister
Oct 5, 2014, 7:54:59 PM10/5/14
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today would laugh.
annily
Oct 6, 2014, 12:44:04 AM10/6/14
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On 05.10.14 22:12, Stan Brown wrote:
> obAUE: Apologies! I do know how to spell the word, but U and I are
> next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
> either I or U, UI is produced.
I often get this too; damn n-key rollover keyboards. They're presumably
designed for fast typists, but since I'm not one of those, I would
prefer that, if I depress more than one key within a certain time, only
one of them is registered (which could perhaps be selectable between
first and last).
--
Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
"Talking to yourself is only a problem if you get a response you don't
understand".
> obAUE: Apologies! I do know how to spell the word, but U and I are
> next to each other on the keyboard and often, when I intend to hit
> either I or U, UI is produced.
I often get this too; damn n-key rollover keyboards. They're presumably
designed for fast typists, but since I'm not one of those, I would
prefer that, if I depress more than one key within a certain time, only
one of them is registered (which could perhaps be selectable between
first and last).
--
Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
"Talking to yourself is only a problem if you get a response you don't
understand".
occam
Oct 6, 2014, 3:15:37 AM10/6/14
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On 05/10/2014 02:40, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:23:55 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> On 10/4/2014 12:14 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:45:19 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>>>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>>>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>>>> that's exactly what happened.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I think I've had this all my life, or at least for
>>> decades, so it it were going to even out it would have happened by
>>> now. But I'll keep a good thought.
>>>
>>> Did you have tinnitus in both ears, or just one?
>>>
>> It been one ear at a time.
>
> I was hoping for the other answer -- mine is in both ears, so maybe
> the "unbalanced frequencies" explanation doesn't apply to me.
> Unfortunately.
>
I was offered the same explanation by my GP, who dispatched me to an ear
specialist. His conclusion, after extensive hearing tests, was that both
ears had normal frequency profiles (for may age). Which left the
tinnitus in my left ear undiagnosed/unexplained. After a few minutes in
the morning, I forget about it until the next day.
> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 14:23:55 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>>
>> On 10/4/2014 12:14 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
>>> On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 08:45:19 -0400, James Silverton wrote:
>>>> Tinnitis (or whatever) is age related and is supposed to caused by
>>>> unequal loss of frequency response in your two ears. My specialist said
>>>> it would go away when the response became equal in the two ears and
>>>> that's exactly what happened.
>>>
>>> Interesting. I think I've had this all my life, or at least for
>>> decades, so it it were going to even out it would have happened by
>>> now. But I'll keep a good thought.
>>>
>>> Did you have tinnitus in both ears, or just one?
>>>
>> It been one ear at a time.
>
> I was hoping for the other answer -- mine is in both ears, so maybe
> the "unbalanced frequencies" explanation doesn't apply to me.
> Unfortunately.
>
I was offered the same explanation by my GP, who dispatched me to an ear
specialist. His conclusion, after extensive hearing tests, was that both
ears had normal frequency profiles (for may age). Which left the
tinnitus in my left ear undiagnosed/unexplained. After a few minutes in
the morning, I forget about it until the next day.
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