middle finger
Michael Iles
Judith Kunst wrote:
>
> Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
> hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
> the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
> one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
> fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
> and ring finger? According to my dictionary it is middle finger, but
> that can't be right with only four fingers!
> Who can enlighten me?
Good point! It *is* referred to as the middle finger, though, as you
say, it can't be in the middle of the four fingers. There is a small
amount of leeway in the treatment of the thumb, though: the OED defines
'finger' as "any of the terminal projections of the hand, including or
excluding the thumb". However, 'middle finger' is identified as the "the
finger next to the forefinger". If the thumb were considered a finger,
this would be ambiguous. Personally, I object whenever a thumb is
identified as a finger.
I recently had the pleasure of entertaining a Czech friend for a few
days, and at one point we were discussing this subject. Apparently in
Czech the fingers, thumbs and toes are all grouped under the same word
(comparable to 'digit, I guess), and each finger, thumb and toe also has
its own name. (Ten names in total, not twenty.)
Mike.
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Jonathan Mason
jud...@worldaccess.nl (Judith Kunst) wrote:
>Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
>hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
>the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
>one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
>fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
>and ring finger? According to my dictionary it is middle finger, but
>that can't be right with only four fingers!
>Who can enlighten me?
>
good.
Martin A. Mazur
In article <33BA62...@internauts.ca>,
Michael Iles <th...@internauts.ca> wrote:
>I recently had the pleasure of entertaining a Czech friend for a few
>days, and at one point we were discussing this subject. Apparently in
>Czech the fingers, thumbs and toes are all grouped under the same word
>(comparable to 'digit, I guess), and each finger, thumb and toe also has
>its own name. (Ten names in total, not twenty.)
>
If you have a one-year-old, they are all called "piggies", from a nursery
rhyme/game "This Little Piggy".
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Gary Williams, Business Services Accounting
In article <33BA62...@internauts.ca>,
> Apparently in Czech the fingers, thumbs and toes are all grouped under the
> same word (comparable to 'digit, I guess), and each finger, thumb and toe
> also has its own name. (Ten names in total, not twenty.)
Would those names include such as "piggy that went to market" and "piggy that
had roast beef"?
Gary Williams
WILL...@AHECAS.AHEC.EDU
Larry Krakauer
Judith Kunst wrote:
> Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
> hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
> the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
> one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
> fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
> and ring finger? According to my dictionary it is middle finger, but
> that can't be right with only four fingers!
> Who can enlighten me?
I think there are some who would say that technically the thumb
is not a finger. However, in common everyday usage, most native
American speakers of English would consider the thumb to be a
finger, like the others.
The technical usage of words in certain fields can differ
from the everyday use. I was once at a dog show, and noticed
two fenced-off areas filled with sawdust, apparently for the
dogs to urinate in. Each enclosure had a sign over it, and the
sign facing me was labeled "Dogs". This made me wonder what
the other sign said. Was that area for people to pee in?
I walked around the enclosure to see the other sign. It
read "Bitches". Apparently, if you are a dog breeder, a
female canine is called a "bitch", and only a male canine
would be called a "dog". Yet I was in my forties before I
learned this. To the general public, "dog" does not indicate
sex; there are male dogs and female dogs ("bitches").
And yes, we have five fingers ON each hand.
--
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T. Shannon Gilvary
On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:16:45 -0400, Michael Iles <th...@internauts.ca>
wrote:
>(comparable to 'digit, I guess), and each finger, thumb and toe also has
>its own name. (Ten names in total, not twenty.)
>
George, Phil, Jonathan, Nathan, Mary,...
Judith Kunst
Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
and ring finger? According to my dictionary it is middle finger, but
that can't be right with only four fingers!
Who can enlighten me?
Judith Kunst
jud...@worldaccess.nl
http://www.worldaccess.nl/~judithk
The Netherlands
Maureen Goldman
jud...@worldaccess.nl (Judith Kunst) wrote:
> Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
> hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
> the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
> one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
> fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
> and ring finger? According to my dictionary it is middle finger, but
> that can't be right with only four fingers!
> Who can enlighten me?
You're here to make trouble, I gather.
We have ways of dealing with your kind.
(And ... welcome! You'll fit right in)
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Mike Barnes
In alt.usage.english, Lee Lester <lee.l...@guildnet.org> spake
thuswise:
>But does anyone have an explanation of why raising the middle finger in
>North America is regarded as an insult or, at least, a derisory gesture,
>while, in Britain, the raising of the middle and ring fingers
Actually it's the middle and index fingers.
> - known as
>giving the Churchill sign from the British World War II leader's V for
>Victory sign
No, they're two different things. The insult ("vee sign") has the back
of the hand towards the gesturee, and often an upward motion. "V for
victory" has the hand reversed, and lacks the upward motion.
> - are regarded in the same way?
Here there's no possibility of confusion.
>Is it that Yanks and
>Canucks refer to one orifice while Britons refer to two?
I don't know what the origin of the vee sign is, but it may have nothing
to do with orifices.
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Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:19:53 GMT, jud...@worldaccess.nl (Judith
Kunst) wrote:
>Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
>hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
>the fingers is the thumb. I am told that in English speaking countries
>one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
>fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
>and ring finger?
Fred Arkins.
bjg
Richard M. Alderson III
In article <33BBBA...@erols.com> "Robert R. Koblish" <Xn3...@erols.com>
writes:
>The U.S. "one-fingered salute" is usually delivered with the back of the
>sender's hand facing the recipient, and is most emphatic when delivered with
>an upward motion as you describe. It would be recognised as the same
>sentiment no matter which way the hand faced, though.
It's not a U.S.-only gesture, but I've covered that elsewhere.
I remember a lithograph poster from the 70's of a nude woman seated in full
lotus position, face placid, her left hand in the standard circled-index-and-
thumb-above-thigh of meditative practice, her right raised, elbow bent at
shoulder height, in the gesture in question, palm facing the viewer. The
artist stated that her intent was the negation of the hostility of the usual
back-of-hand-to-the-insulted gesture, not "Fuck you!" but rather an invitation,
"Fuck *with* me."
But I agree that in most contexts, the recipient would most likely not pay much
attention to which way the hand was facing...
--
Rich Alderson You know the sort of thing that you can find in any dictionary
of a strange language, and which so excites the amateur philo-
logists, itching to derive one tongue from another that they
know better: a word that is nearly the same in form and meaning
as the corresponding word in English, or Latin, or Hebrew, or
what not.
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alde...@netcom.com _The Notion Club Papers_
Dave Moorman
In article <33be76e6...@news.worldaccess.nl>, jud...@worldaccess.nl
(Judith Kunst) wrote:
>inkslinger@{NOSPAM}sunshine.net (Maureen Goldman) wrote:
>
>>jud...@worldaccess.nl (Judith Kunst) wrote:
>>
>>> Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
>>> hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
>>> the fingers is the thumb.
>>You're here to make trouble, I gather.
>>
>>We have ways of dealing with your kind.
>>
>>(And ... welcome! You'll fit right in)
>
>No, I am not here to make trouble, it is a honest question and
>certainly not meant as a troll.
Relax, Judith! For what it's worth, the OED defines finger as "One of the
five terminal members of the hand. In a restricted sense, one of the four,
excluding the thumb. In the latter sense, the fingers are numbered first
through fourth, starting with that next to the thumb." If someone says
"middle finger", they must consider that there are five fingers and
include the thumb as a finger. Following the OED's restricted sense and
numbering system, the person would be holding the cigarette with their
thumb and second finger.
Dave
--
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Downers Grove
Illinois, USA
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LLThrasher
Judith Kunst wrote:
>
> Here in The Netherlands we have five fingers on each hand ( *on* each
> hand is perhaps not correct, but that is a different question), one of
> one has four fingers and a thumb (or five digits). But if one has four
> fingers and a thumb, what is the name of the finger between forefinger
> that can't be right with only four fingers!
> Who can enlighten me?
When we count on our fingers in English we count to ten. If we use our
toes, too, we get up to twenty. Anyway, the thumb is a finger, it just
happens to have a name of its own, much like the littlest finger, which
is often called the pinky. The finger in the middle is the middle
finger. In English we say we have five fingers on each hand. But we
can also say we have four fingers and a thumb. It depends on whether we
want to distinguish between the specialized finger (the thumb) and the
four very ordinary fingers.
Linda
Robert R. Koblish
Mike Barnes wrote:
[...]
> No, they're two different things. The insult ("vee sign") has the back
> of the hand towards the gesturee, and often an upward motion. "V for
> victory" has the hand reversed, and lacks the upward motion.
[...]
The U.S. "one-fingered salute" is usually delivered with the back of the
sender's hand facing the recipient, and is most emphatic when delivered
with an upward motion as you describe. It would be recognised as
the same sentiment no matter which way the hand faced, though.
--
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Joseph C Fineman
Mike Barnes <mi...@exodus.co.uk> writes:
>I don't know what the origin of the vee sign is, but it may have
>nothing to do with orifices.
I always thought it alluded to the devil's horns, but I don't have a
reference. The donkey's ears is another possibility. (I hope I am
not causing this thread to veer toward the asinine.)
--- Joe Fineman j...@world.std.com
||: Anger is ice for the toothache of shame. :||
Hugh_P_Scott
There is a lady in this land
has twenty nails on every hand
five and twenty on hands and feet
this is true, and no deceit.
--
The opinions expressed in this communication are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer!!
Simon R. Hughes
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997 12:18:57 GMT, j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
scribbled:
> Mike Barnes <mi...@exodus.co.uk> writes:
>
> >I don't know what the origin of the vee sign is, but it may have
> >nothing to do with orifices.
>
> I always thought it alluded to the devil's horns, but I don't have a
> reference. The donkey's ears is another possibility. (I hope I am
> not causing this thread to veer toward the asinine.)
Once upon a time, the English were at war with the French. There was a
battle in a place called Agincourt and the French king, angry at the
clever English archers, cut the forefinger and middle finger from the
right hand of any archer captured. This prevented the archers from
ever using a longbow again.
In the fulness of time, the French lost the battle, the French king
was captured and placed upon a pedestal while the clever English
archers marched by. As a gesture of defiance, each archer showed the
French king his forefinger and middle finger as he passed the
pedestal. Thus a peculilarly English insult was born.
Well, that's the legend I have heard.
===
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Ian James Abbott
In article <33BC17...@teleport.com>, LLThrasher <ba...@teleport.com>
writes:
>When we count on our fingers in English we count to ten. If we use our
>toes, too, we get up to twenty. Anyway, the thumb is a finger, it just
I can count to 1023 on my fingers (or at least I could if it wasn't so
difficult to bend each finger individually). I can also click my toes
:-)
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Vinny Hrovat
In our last episode, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R. Hughes) spoke thusly:
<Talk about history of middle fingered salute clipped . . . . >
>Once upon a time, the English were at war with the French. There was a
>battle in a place called Agincourt and the French king, angry at the
>clever English archers, cut the forefinger and middle finger from the
>right hand of any archer captured. This prevented the archers from
>ever using a longbow again.
>In the fulness of time, the French lost the battle, the French king
>was captured and placed upon a pedestal while the clever English
>archers marched by. As a gesture of defiance, each archer showed the
>French king his forefinger and middle finger as he passed the
>pedestal. Thus a peculilarly English insult was born.
I've heard a similar story. The English archers all used bows made of a type of
wood called ewe (which i've never heard of in any other context). They referred
to their trade as "plucking ewe." When the French captured the English archers
at Agincourt, they cut off only the archers' middle fingers, since those were
the most important for precisely shooting with a longbow. Then the French put
the dismembered archers on display, walked by with their middle fingers in the
air by way of taunting, and shouted "pluck ewe" as they passed.
Yeah, it's prolly an urban legend . . . .
---
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http://www.wco.com/~grix/ | it appears, etc.)
Lee Lester
>> The signal in England is given with the middle and forefinger. It is
>> virtually impossible to raise middle and ring finger together. Try
>> it.
> Churchill, in the newsreels I have seen, made the V for Victory
> symbol with the palm side of the hand towards the intended viewer.
> The V for f*** off sign is made with the back of the hand to the
> recipient and accompanied by an upwards thrust of the arm.
Sorry, I mixed up my digits. Now I know why no-one understands me when I
make such signs.
Although you are quite right abut the wartime leader's gesture, the
fact is that I have often heard the obscene gesture, if that is what it
is, referred to in Britain as 'the Churchill sign,' as in 'giving
someone the Churchill sign.
lee lester
Lee Lester
>The English archers all used bows made of a type of wood called ewe
The wood was yew and was made form the tree of the same name.
The other spelling probably came from the lonely shepherd's theme song:
'There'll never be another ewe.'
lee lester
Albert Marshall
Vinny Hrovat <gr...@nospam.here> wrote
>In our last episode, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R. Hughes) spoke thusly:
>
>As a gesture of defiance, each archer showed the
>>French king his forefinger and middle finger as he passed the
>>pedestal. Thus a peculilarly English insult was born.
>
>I've heard a similar story. The English archers
...
> referred
>to their trade as "plucking ewe."
Surely you mean *Irish* archers?
--
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Executive French
Language Training for Businesses in Kent
01634 400902
Brian J Goggin
>Vinny Hrovat <gr...@nospam.here> wrote
>>In our last episode, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R. Hughes) spoke thusly:
>>
><Snip>
>
>>As a gesture of defiance, each archer showed the
>>>French king his forefinger and middle finger as he passed the
>>>pedestal. Thus a peculilarly English insult was born.
>>
>>I've heard a similar story. The English archers
>...
>> referred
>>to their trade as "plucking ewe."
>
>Surely you mean *Irish* archers?
No, no. The archer is inextricably associated with England. Why, you
even (in memory of the battles of old) devote an entire radio
programme to archers. It's subtitled, if I recall correctly, "an
everyday story of animal husbandry".
And that's on national radio. Goodness knows what you get up to in the
privacy of your own homesteads.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:29:27 GMT, lee.l...@guildnet.org (Lee Lester)
wrote:
Yews are often (in these islands) found in churchyards. Ewes, on the
other hand, are usually found on the edges of cliffs.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:02:56 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:05:06 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:17:45 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>
>>>On 5 Jul 1997 16:14:15 GMT, Jonathan Mason
>>><j...@sunline.net.spamchopper> wrote:
>>>>Lost ewes, that is. And if they fall they can be caught with a ewesnet.
>>>
>>>And if they elude the ewesnet, they'll wind up in the ewestrough.
>>>
>>Unpleasant, until they get ewesed to it.
>
>Bringing us back to the appropriate subject matter for
>alt.ewesage.english.
Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
bring it to a prematewere end.
bjg
Chris Malcolm
In article <33c7834a...@news.mindspring.com> njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com writes:
>On Fri, 04 Jul 1997 22:55:45 GMT, gr...@nospam.here (Vinny Hrovat)
>wrote:
>>I've heard a similar story. The English archers all used bows made of a type of
>>wood called ewe (which i've never heard of in any other context).
>yew n.
>1 any dark-leaved evergreen coniferous tree of the genus Taxus, having
>seeds enclosed in a fleshy red aril, and often planted in churchyards.
>2 its wood, used formerly as a material for bows and still in
>cabinet-making.
It is planted in churchyards to keep it away from unsupervised children
and animals, because it is *very* poisonous. The symptom of yew
poisoning is sudden death, so sudden that the animal or person is
usually found beneath the tree with the twigs in the mouth.
--
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Department of Artificial Intelligence, Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK DoD #205
Brian J Goggin
On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:23:04 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
Hughes) wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 10:26:43 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>(Mimi Kahn) scribbled:
>
>[snip]
>> From my Oxford Concise Dictionary:
>>
>> yew n.
>> 1 any dark-leaved evergreen coniferous tree of the genus Taxus, having
>> seeds enclosed in a fleshy red aril, and often planted in churchyards.
>> 2 its wood, used formerly as a material for bows and still in
>> cabinet-making.
>>
>> Whereas a ewe, as most of us know, is a female sheep.
>
>It's the Irish that know female sheep, not the rest of us!
Please! Knot *know* but *knewe*.
bjg
PS And I won't be tempted to ask whether anyone ever drops the (first)
"h" in your surname.
Lee Lester
>>Yews are often (in these islands) found in churchyards. Ewes, on the
>>other hand, are usually found on the edges of cliffs.
>>
>Lost ewes, that is. And if they fall they can be caught with a ewesnet.
>>I wish youse guys wouldn't keep making sheep jokes.
We're just ramming it home.
lee lester
Simon R. Hughes
On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 09:23:55 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
scribbled:
Ewe want to know if anyone "eweses" me?
Arlene & Peter
Vinny Hrovat wrote
> I've heard a similar story. The English archers all used bows made of a type of
> wood called ewe (which i've never heard of in any other context).
No, the wood was "yew".
Peter
Vinny Hrovat
In our last episode, Arlene & Peter <ar_...@ids.net> spoke thusly:
Thanks. The word was spelled "ewe" in the email where i read the story. While
i found it amusing, i figured it was all a joke and never bothered to verify any
details.
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <33c0c7bd...@news.mindspring.com>,
njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com wrote:
>On Sun, 6 Jul 1997 09:25:54 GMT, lee.l...@guildnet.org (Lee Lester)
>wrote:
>
>Gad, sheep puns have become ewebiquitous!
>
>Baaaaa!
Yes, they're really lambasting us. If they don't stop, someone's going to
go on a rampage.
-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
Albert Marshall
Brian J Goggin <b...@wordwrights.ie> wrote>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:05:06 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:17:45 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 5 Jul 1997 16:14:15 GMT, Jonathan Mason
>>>><j...@sunline.net.spamchopper> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin) wrote:
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The English archers all used bows made of a type of wood called ewe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The wood was yew and was made form the tree of the same name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The other spelling probably came from the lonely shepherd's theme song:
>>>>>>>'There'll never be another ewe.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>other hand, are usually found on the edges of cliffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Lost ewes, that is. And if they fall they can be caught with a ewesnet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Unpleasant, until they get ewesed to it.
>>
>>Bringing us back to the appropriate subject matter for
>>alt.ewesage.english.
>
>Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
>bring it to a prematewere end.
>
Hugh_P_Scott
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
>
>
> Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
> bring it to a prematewere end.
>
Robert R. Koblish
Hugh_P_Scott wrote:
>
> Brian J Goggin wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
> > bring it to a prematewere end.
> >
> ... but Brian made a ewe turn. (possible deweble entendre ??)
Teweché.
Brian J Goggin
On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:35:36 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
Hughes) wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 13:47:39 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>scribbled:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 12:52:10 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
>> Hughes) wrote:
>
>> >Ewe want to know if anyone "eweses" me?
>>
>> Trewe.
>
>I would call my ewenion!
Why would ewe dewe that?
bjg
00nzwi...@bsuvc.bsu.edu
>>bring it to a prematewere end.
>>
Before someone ewesurps this sticky mess, I'd like to be declared the
ewesufructuary.
--
Nyal Z. Williams
00nzwi...@bsuvc.bsu.edu
Brian J Goggin
On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 17:47:42 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 00:37:52 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:27:26 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:15:33 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Because it is indewebitably the thing to dewe.
>>>
>>Ah. If I may quote my children: "cewel".
>
>I'm glad ewer children have a sense of hewemor.
How kind of ewe. How many eweses of ewe have we yet to ewese?
bjg
Lee Rudolph
b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin) writes:
>How kind of ewe. How many eweses of ewe have we yet to ewese?
I believe the Mitford girls would find this entire discussion non-Ewe.
Lee Rudolph
P.S. Because of line-length limitations coded into inewes, I've
couldn't post with the actual References: header; so, on the
principle that one might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb,
I've cut it out entirely. The article to which I am immediately
replying is, however, <33c20bd3...@newes.ewenet.ie> --
more or less.
Hugh_P_Scott
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
> O
>
> How kind of ewe. How many eweses of ewe have we yet to ewese?
>
Ewe is so ewebiquitous it would take too long to enewemerate them all.
Ewe would need to scan all of Ewerope, or even Ewerasia, to be sewer of
getting them all. Indeed, Eweranus and Neptewen shewed be incleweded.
Hugh Scott
Brian J Goggin
On 7 Jul 97 21:44:53 -0500, 00nzwi...@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote:
>In article <Zx5miCA2y$vzE...@execfrog.demon.co.uk>, Albert Marshall <alb...@execfrog.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> Brian J Goggin <b...@wordwrights.ie> wrote
>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:02:56 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:05:06 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:17:45 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 5 Jul 1997 16:14:15 GMT, Jonathan Mason
>>>>>><j...@sunline.net.spamchopper> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin) wrote:
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:29:27 GMT, lee.l...@guildnet.org (Lee Lester)
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The English archers all used bows made of a type of wood called ewe
>>>>>>>>>>which i've never heard of in any other context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The wood was yew and was made form the tree of the same name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The other spelling probably came from the lonely shepherd's theme song:
>>>>>>>>>'There'll never be another ewe.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yews are often (in these islands) found in churchyards. Ewes, on the
>>>>>>>>other hand, are usually found on the edges of cliffs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lost ewes, that is. And if they fall they can be caught with a ewesnet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And if they elude the ewesnet, they'll wind up in the ewestrough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Unpleasant, until they get ewesed to it.
>>>>
>>>>Bringing us back to the appropriate subject matter for
>>>>alt.ewesage.english.
>>>
>>>Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
>>>bring it to a prematewere end.
>>>
>> Your ewephoria was misplaced. Govend is fairly ewenique.
>
>Before someone ewesurps this sticky mess, I'd like to be declared the
>ewesufructuary.
I think you'll have to get the prize for ewephuism.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
>Brian J Goggin wrote:
>>
>> O
>>
>> How kind of ewe. How many eweses of ewe have we yet to ewese?
>>
>> bjg
>
>Ewe is so ewebiquitous it would take too long to enewemerate them all.
>Ewe would need to scan all of Ewerope, or even Ewerasia, to be sewer of
>getting them all. Indeed, Eweranus and Neptewen shewed be incleweded.
Yewe feel, then, that it's pretty eweniversal.
I don't know about Eweranus, but mine is always with me.
>Hugh Scott
Thanks, Hewe.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 10:04:58 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 14:46:08 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>Since I live on Eweranus Avenue, I tend to leave it behind when I go
>away from the house. Cewerious, wot?
>
Adventewerous, even.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 12:55:29 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
[...]
>>But I do think we should consider the danger of turning this into
>>A-EWE-E.
>
>Ah, that has a certain perfection to it, almost approaching Eweclidean
>geometry. Ewe must be a practicing ewedemonist.
>
Thank ewe for the ewelogy.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Tue, 08 Jul 1997 10:01:07 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On 8 Jul 1997 07:56:34 -0400, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph) wrote:
>
>>b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin) writes:
>>
>>>How kind of ewe. How many eweses of ewe have we yet to ewese?
>>
>>I believe the Mitford girls would find this entire discussion non-Ewe.
>
>Jessica might have enjoyed it, however, since she was married to Bob
>Trewehaft.
>
But I do think we should consider the danger of turning this into
A-EWE-E.
bjg
Hugh_P_Scott
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
> O
>
>
Indewebitably. I forgot to mention some other obvious locations: the
Ewenited States, the Eweninted Kingdom, Ceweba, Eceweador and (most
pertinently) Newe Zealand
Hewe
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:34:25 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
[...]
>>But didn't yewe express a liking for opera? The Magic Flewete,
>>Nabewecco, die Meistersinger von Neweremberg, perhaps?
>
>Yes, I adore the pewerity of opera -- but I can't perform it. It's
>jewevenile, I know, but I euesually envy such divas as Fredewerica Von
>Stade and Marilyn Hewerne.
>
>(I come from the same one-square-mile town as does Bevewerly Sills --
>and I can't sing a note! It is enough to make me want to peweke!)
>
Well, what about instrumental mewesic? That great American composer,
Sewesa?
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:41:32 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:12:54 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:24:45 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 23:37:07 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:02:56 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:05:06 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:17:45 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 5 Jul 1997 16:14:15 GMT, Jonathan Mason
>>>>>>><j...@sunline.net.spamchopper> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:29:27 GMT, lee.l...@guildnet.org (Lee Lester)
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The English archers all used bows made of a type of wood called ewe
>>>>>>>>>>>which i've never heard of in any other context.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The wood was yew and was made form the tree of the same name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The other spelling probably came from the lonely shepherd's theme song:
>>>>>>>>>>'There'll never be another ewe.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yews are often (in these islands) found in churchyards. Ewes, on the
>>>>>>>>>other hand, are usually found on the edges of cliffs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lost ewes, that is. And if they fall they can be caught with a ewesnet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And if they elude the ewesnet, they'll wind up in the ewestrough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Unpleasant, until they get ewesed to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bringing us back to the appropriate subject matter for
>>>>>alt.ewesage.english.
>>>>
>>>>Just when I thought we were developing a rival to Govende, ewe try to
>>>>bring it to a prematewere end.
>>>
>>>Ewephemistically speaking, is the eweniverse ready for another
>>>Govende?
>>>
>>>And would the participants in Govende be happy if they were no longer
>>>ewenique?
>>>
>>><grinning sheepishly>
>>>
>>But why should we not attempt to scale the ramparts? Let yewer motto
>>be "Per ardewea ad astra"!
>
>My God, ewe've gone bilingual on us! What a magnificent
>perambulation!
>
We Eweropeans have that classical civilisationewe know. Why, we learn
Latin with our mothers' milk.
As Henry Beard might put it "Pila in area tewea est."
bjg
(I hope I'm not going to regret this.)
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:45:50 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:50:58 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:34:25 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>>But didn't yewe express a liking for opera? The Magic Flewete,
>>>>Nabewecco, die Meistersinger von Neweremberg, perhaps?
>>>
>>>Yes, I adore the pewerity of opera -- but I can't perform it. It's
>>>jewevenile, I know, but I euesually envy such divas as Fredewerica Von
>>>Stade and Marilyn Hewerne.
>>>
>>>(I come from the same one-square-mile town as does Bevewerly Sills --
>>>and I can't sing a note! It is enough to make me want to peweke!)
>>>
>>Well, what about instrumental mewesic? That great American composer,
>>Sewesa?
>
>I much prefer Debewessy, Khatchatewerian, Mewessorgsky, Buxtehewede,
>Ceweperin, and Peweccini.
What of Galeweppi? And how do you pronounce Lassewes?
>My favorite conductor, of course, is Riccardo Meweti.
>
Mine is Hewe, on the Number 9 bus. Last Sunday, I was at a concert
with Franco Gewelli as soloist.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:01:25 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:59:30 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>wrote:
>
>>We Eweropeans have that classical civilisationewe know. Why, we learn
>>Latin with our mothers' milk.
>
>As we say on this side of the pond, "E pleweribus ewenum."
>
>(So -- ewe Eweropeans all have Latin mothers, eh? Makes deciphering a
>roman-à-clef a bit difficult, no?)
>
No, no: our civilisation and culture stand to us. We are ewenited on
this as we sing in ewenison.
bjg
Simon R. Hughes
On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 22:15:33 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
scribbled:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:35:36 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
> Hughes) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 13:47:39 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
> >scribbled:
> >
> >> On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 12:52:10 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
> >> Hughes) wrote:
> >
> >> >Ewe want to know if anyone "eweses" me?
> >>
> >> Trewe.
> >
> >I would call my ewenion!
>
> Why would ewe dewe that?
Becaewese ewenions are the peweple who stand up for thewese being
ewesed.
(this is beginning to sound like 'Allo 'Allo!)
N.Mitchum
Brian J Goggin wrote:
------
> But didn't yewe express a liking for opera? The Magic Flewete,
> Nabewecco, die Meistersinger von Neweremberg, perhaps?
You are nothing but enlightenment today. First "fleshpots" and
now (in a related topic) the bovidity of opera. In a single,
subtle stroke you have explained the talent of Maria Ewing and
Agnes Baltsa. Then there's Jean-Philippe Rameau! Rampal!! Goats
may safely gambol, by Baaach.
My musical horizons broaden, I must say.
--
--- NM
[by Mail&Post]
[Replies copied to my e-mail are appreciated]
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:46:42 GMT, shughes@sn*spam-blok*.no (Simon R.
Hughes) wrote:
[...]
>> >I would call my ewenion!
>>
>> Why would ewe dewe that?
>
>Becaewese ewenions are the peweple who stand up for thewese being
>ewesed.
>
I preseweme yewe pay yewer ewenion dewes?
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:54:34 -0700, "N.Mitchum" <aj...@mail.lafn.org>
wrote:
[...]
>I like yews [...]
I'm sure I speak for all of us in saying that we reciprocate your
sentiments.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:58:26 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
[...]
>I think this thread is ready for fewemigation.
>
But it might just start anewe elsewhere ....
bjg
Mike Page
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:57:03 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
> (Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 17:35:58 -0400, Larry Krakauer <lar...@kronos.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Mimi Kahn wrote:
> >>> Do ewe think anybody is reading this thread but ewe and me?
> >> ... she said, sheepishly.
> >
> >You're rambling, Larry.
> >
> Not Larry the Lamb?
>
> bjg
Time to shu' tup?
MJP
Brian J Goggin
Ah. One knowledgeable about the terminology of animal husbandry (in
the nicest possible way, of course).
bjg
Larry Krakauer
Mimi Kahn wrote:
> Are you suggesting that this is a good stupping point?
> Here, let's discuss it under the shade of this tupelo....
My God, we've moved from ewedish to Yiddish.
I think I've got to step out for a cold shower.
It's a good thing for Mimi that the Communications Decency
Act was ruled unconstitutional.
--
Larry Krakauer (lar...@kronos.com)
Brian J Goggin
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:26:30 -0700, "N.Mitchum" <aj...@mail.lafn.org>
wrote:
>Brian J Goggin wrote:
>------
>> But didn't yewe express a liking for opera? The Magic Flewete,
>> Nabewecco, die Meistersinger von Neweremberg, perhaps?
>>.....
>
>You are nothing but enlightenment today. First "fleshpots" and
>now (in a related topic) the bovidity of opera. In a single,
>subtle stroke you have explained the talent of Maria Ewing and
>Agnes Baltsa. Then there's Jean-Philippe Rameau! Rampal!! Goats
>may safely gambol, by Baaach.
Why, this is a very pantechnicon. Next we'll have literature, with
Goathe, Lamb and Kyd. But there are rumours of impending ovicide ....
>My musical horizons broaden, I must say.
As I write, I'm listening to Haydn's oratorio *The Seasons*:
"From out the flock the shepherd drives
his bleating flock and lowing herd,
to browse along the verdant hill,
guides them, leads them slowly on.
He stands, and gazes towards the east,
and on his staff in silence leans ...."
bjg
Robert Lieblich
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:26:30 -0700, "N.Mitchum" <aj...@mail.lafn.org>
> wrote:
>
> >Brian J Goggin wrote:
> >------
> >> But didn't yewe express a liking for opera? The Magic Flewete,
> >> Nabewecco, die Meistersinger von Neweremberg, perhaps?
> >>.....
> >
> >You are nothing but enlightenment today. First "fleshpots" and
> >now (in a related topic) the bovidity of opera. In a single,
> >subtle stroke you have explained the talent of Maria Ewing and
> >Agnes Baltsa. Then there's Jean-Philippe Rameau! Rampal!! Goats
> >may safely gambol, by Baaach.
>
> Why, this is a very pantechnicon. Next we'll have literature, with
> Goathe, Lamb and Kyd.
George Gamow ("GAM-ow"), the physicist, had worked on a paper with his
pupil Ralph Alpher. As they neared publication, they enlisted Hans
Bethe (BAY-tah) as co-author, and the paper came out under the names
Alpher, Bethe, and Gamow.
Now, what has this to do with "middle finger"?
Bob Lieblich <lieb...@erols.com>
Brian J Goggin
>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:26:30 -0700, "N.Mitchum" <aj...@mail.lafn.org>
>wrote:
>
[...]
>>Agnes Baltsa.
>
>Kudos on that one!
>
Curses! I missed the full glory of that one. I doff my cap and tug my
forelock.
bjg
Brian J Goggin
On Fri, 11 Jul 1997 22:37:48 -0500, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J.
Dinkin) wrote:
>In article <33c51e23...@news.eunet.ie>, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J
>Goggin) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:11:11 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:13:14 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:36:33 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jul 1997 01:26:54 GMT, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J Goggin)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 16:58:26 -0700, njk...@no-spam.mindspring.com
>>>>>>(Mimi Kahn) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think this thread is ready for fewemigation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>But it might just start anewe elsewhere ....
>>>>>
>>>>>By now it's started anewe *everywhere*. It is ewebiquitous and a
>>>>>ewesurpation.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe it's time to move on to goats....
>>>>>
>>>>But can ewe tell ...?
>>>>
>>>>Sorry; just kidding.
>>>
>>>Such cewepidity....
>>>
>>>Trying to get my goat, wot?
>>>
>>>We can try to milch this for all it's worth, but I don't think it's
>>>worth much.
>>>
>>Over and O-EWE-T?
>
>Oh, goat ewe, goat ewe, thou art a foolish fellow! There's plenty more ewes
>we can get out of this thread.
>
>(If you don't recognize my allewesion, check _Twelfth Night_, IV.i.)
>>
How ewes doth breed a habit in man! But my thoughts turn to the Taming
of the Shrewe.
bjg
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <33c7c6cd....@news.eunet.ie>, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J
Goggin) wrote:
Well, the question now is, To bleat or not to bleat? - as Hamlet, a sowr
fellow boared by life once put it.
-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom
Aaron J. Dinkin
In article <33c9ea38...@news.eunet.ie>, b...@wordwrights.ie (Brian J
Goggin) wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:35:29 -0500, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J.
>But was it not Macbeth who asked "Is this a dagging I see before me?"
Yes, but Shakespeare's most famous characters are those star-crossed
lovers, Rameo and Jeweliet.
Brian J Goggin
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:40:19 -0500, adi...@commschool.org (Aaron J.
Dinkin) wrote:
AAAARRRGGH!
I can't top that. Game, set and match to Aaron.
bjg
Hugh_P_Scott
Brian J Goggin wrote:
>
>
>
> The words of Mercury are harsh after the songs of Apollo. Ewe, that
> way: we, this way.
>
> bjg
Mercewery ! I missed that one earlier, tewe.
Brian J Goggin
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:28:00 -0700, "N.Mitchum" <aj...@mail.lafn.org>
wrote:
>Brian J Goggin wrote:
>-----
>> Why, this is a very pantechnicon. Next we'll have literature, with
>> Goathe, Lamb and Kyd. But there are rumours of impending ovicide ....
>>......
>
>Pantechnicon. You can't just say "moving van"? Now this, you see, is
>exactly why I gave up my attempt to learn Greek: even the simplest
>word runs to a minimum of five syllables, and then you have to learn it
>all in a funny-looking alphabet. Just so I can say, "Two orders of
>moussaka, please, and don't come near me with that retsina."
>
Perhaps, with the time you've saved, you might consider a revision
course in Numbers and Counting? But I referred, of course, to the
original "building in London intended for the sale of all kinds of
artistic work".
>Parakalo!
Why do you mention an abnormal Serbian folk-dance?
>Thank you for revealing the secrets of your success ... such as it is.
>You listen to music while your staff does all the work. Instead of
>silently leaning on them, though, you might consider giving them an
>occasional word of encouragement and stop treating them like cattle and
>sheep. No doubt, though, you refer to this as your "management style."
No no. You are mistaken: they wouldn't understand. My staff consists
of an infinite number of monkeys, using an infinite number of Apple
Macs. I encourage them by bribing them with banana slugs.
bjg
Hal Dunn
What is the origin of repeatedly rubbing one index finger over the back
of the other index finger from the back of the finger out to the
fingernail while saying "shame, shame?"
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Pan troglodytes
In article <33D57F...@CYBERdigital.net>, john...@CYBERdigital.net wrote:
> What is the origin of repeatedly rubbing one index finger over the back
> of the other index finger from the back of the finger out to the
> fingernail while saying "shame, shame?"
>
>
But I do know a <name> for it: whittling one's finger.
--
your fond cousin,
Pan troglodytes
Avi Jacobson
My first posting in three weeks, following a long-awaited and sorely-needed
vacation in Ontario and California:
Polar <s.m...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<33d82513...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
> On Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:49:06 -0400, Hal Dunn
> <john...@CYBERdigital.net> wrote:
>
> >What is the origin of repeatedly rubbing one index finger over the back
> >of the other index finger from the back of the finger out to the
> >fingernail while saying "shame, shame?"
>
> Back in Pennsylvania, a lifetime ago, we kids used to add:
>
> "Everybody knows your name!"
Polar, I didn't remember that you -- like me -- were a native
Pennsylvanian. Perhaps you, too, remember the alternate chant that went
with that particular gesture: "Sisper Shame on [insert name here]".
Does anyone out there know the origins of that one?
--
Avi Jacobson, email: avi_...@netvision.net.il | When an idea is
Home Page (Israel): | wanting, a word
http://www.netvision.net.il/php/avi_jaco | can always be found
Mirror Home Page (U.S.): | to take its place.
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/4034 | -- Goethe
Bob Cunningham
ad...@lafn.org (Bob Cunningham) said:
>s.m...@merde.ix.netcom.com (Polar) said:
>
>[...]
>
>>Yo, Avi, welcome back!
>>
>>What's with the mob of references in your header?
>> Is this the wave of the future, I hope not?
>
>It's been a long thread. Your posting should have one more reference
>than his, and this one should have one more than yours.
>
Hmm ... It didn't quite work out that way. Your list has two missing
from the top of his list, and mine has the top one missing from your
list. So, it appears references fall off the top of the stack
automatically.
- - - - - - -
Obaue: I referred to the end of the references list containing the
oldest references as "the top of the stack". It seems more in line with
the conventional concept of a stack to think of the newer references
being stacked on top of the older ones, so that the bottom of the
references list in the header display is really the top of the stack.
This difficulty seems to go away completely if I change my sentence to
read "So, it appears references fall off the top of the list
automatically". So why didn't I just do that? Because then I wouldn't
have had anything to write an Obaue about.
Arlene & Peter
Bob Cunningham wrote:
> Obaue: I referred to the end of the references list containing the
> oldest references as "the top of the stack". It seems more in line with
> the conventional concept of a stack to think of the newer references
> being stacked on top of the older ones, so that the bottom of the
> references list in the header display is really the top of the stack.
> This difficulty seems to go away completely if I change my sentence to
> read "So, it appears references fall off the top of the list
> automatically". So why didn't I just do that? Because then I wouldn't
Who knows where that term Ob, used with many lists and newsgroups,
arose? Is Ob short for something?
Very curious (take that as you will) ;>)
Peter H. Ten Eyck
Bob Cunningham
Arlene & Peter <ar_...@ids.net> said:
>Bob Cunningham wrote:
>> Obaue: I referred to the end of the references list containing the
>> oldest references as "the top of the stack". It seems more in line with
>> the conventional concept of a stack to think of the newer references
>> being stacked on top of the older ones, so that the bottom of the
>> references list in the header display is really the top of the stack.
>> This difficulty seems to go away completely if I change my sentence to
>> read "So, it appears references fall off the top of the list
>> automatically". So why didn't I just do that? Because then I wouldn't
>> have had anything to write an Obaue about.Greetings, all,
The above quotation has me ending my paragraph with the non sequitur
"Greetings, all,". This is a somewhat familiar problem with Usenet
postings. Somehow the poster's software starts his or her response
following a quoted remark without inserting a "new line". Can anyone
tell "Arlene & Peter", and certain others, how to keep this from
happening?
>Who knows where that term Ob, used with many lists and newsgroups,
>arose? Is Ob short for something?
"Obaue" is short for "_Ob_ligatory comment to cause my posting to be at
least partially on topic for _aue_".
Ian James Abbott
In article <33DB8B...@ids.net>, Arlene & Peter <ar_...@ids.net>
writes:
>Who knows where that term Ob, used with many lists and newsgroups,
>arose? Is Ob short for something?
"Obligatory". Used as an attempt to justify a posting which has
contributed to a thread going horribly off-charter for the newsgroup.
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