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ggd...@gmail.com

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May 23, 2006, 10:01:33 AM5/23/06
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What's the meaning of "in the sense"?

I read it in a interview of a economist, he said

"It couldn't have come at a worse time, in the sense that with
business investment weakening, and with the housing market, at least in
activity terms, having turned, that's where the timing is unfortunate
for us."

I looked up "Sense" in the "Longman Active Study Dictionary", and found
"in a sense" ,"in some senses" described as this: in one way, but
without thinking about all the facts. And an example sentenc:
*In one sense he's right, but things are more complicated than that.

So I guess "in the sense" means considering particular,sensible facts.

What do you think? Thank you for your advice!

the Omrud

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May 23, 2006, 10:32:07 AM5/23/06
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ggd...@gmail.com <ggd...@gmail.com> had it:

The phrase is "in the sense that" and it is explaining what went
before.

Here's an example:
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scottish-19th/
Bain, like Ferrier, can be seen to stand in the tradition of Scottish
philosophy in the sense that he adopted its methods.

The first part (Bain stands in the tradition of Scottish philosophy)
tells you what, and the second part (he adopted its method) gives
more detail about how or why the first part is true.

--
David
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Dick Chambers

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May 23, 2006, 11:14:20 AM5/23/06
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ggd...@gmail.com wrote

> What's the meaning of "in the sense"?
>
> I read it in a interview of a economist, he said
>
> "It couldn't have come at a worse time, in the sense that with
> business investment weakening, and with the housing market, at least in
> activity terms, having turned, that's where the timing is unfortunate
> for us."
>
> I looked up "Sense" in the "Longman Active Study Dictionary", and found
> "in a sense" ,"in some senses" described as this: in one way, but
> without thinking about all the facts. And an example sentenc:
> *In one sense he's right, but things are more complicated than that.

You've almost answered your own question in your last sentence above. You
evidently realise that the same words may have different interpretations,
and hence different meanings.

Let us analyse the passage quoted from the economist. In the sentence:-
"It couldn't have come at a worse time, in the sense that . . . "
what exactly does the economist mean by "a worse time". Is this a time when
inflation is at a high level; a time when unemployment is high; a time when
unemployment levels are currently satisfactory, but are increasing
alarmingly; a time of high interest rates and low investment; or some other
adverse economic condition? Using the introductory phrase "in the sense
that", the writer explains that he is using the words "worse time" to mean

"business investment weakening, and with the housing market, at least in

activity terms, having turned". Thus his "worse time" is nothing to do with
levels of unemployment, etc. He has defined what he means.

Richard Chambers Leeds UK.


ggd...@gmail.com

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May 23, 2006, 12:10:36 PM5/23/06
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What a terrific answer, best I've ever had!

Thanks Richard!

Steve Hayes

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May 23, 2006, 1:05:19 PM5/23/06
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On 23 May 2006 07:01:33 -0700, "ggd...@gmail.com" <ggd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>What's the meaning of "in the sense"?
>
>I read it in a interview of a economist, he said
>
>"It couldn't have come at a worse time, in the sense that with
>business investment weakening, and with the housing market, at least in
>activity terms, having turned, that's where the timing is unfortunate
>for us."

As often happens in spoken language, he lost the thread of what he was saying,
and so the sentence end was disconnected from the beginning, and he never told
us what the sense was.

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

R H Draney

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May 23, 2006, 2:14:00 PM5/23/06
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Steve Hayes filted:

>
>As often happens in spoken language, he lost the thread of what he was saying,
>and so the sentence end was disconnected from the beginning, and he never told
>us what the sense was.

I'm reminding of the very serious-sounding announcement that once came over an
airport public-address system:

"Your attention, please! Will all passengers who have not yet done so, please
do so immediately? Thank you."

....r


--
I may not know much about art, but I know
what they tell me I'm supposed to like.

Mike Lyle

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May 23, 2006, 6:28:02 PM5/23/06
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R H Draney wrote:
> Steve Hayes filted:
> >
> >As often happens in spoken language, he lost the thread of what he was saying,
> >and so the sentence end was disconnected from the beginning, and he never told
> >us what the sense was.
>
> I'm reminding of the very serious-sounding announcement that once came over an
> airport public-address system:
>
> "Your attention, please! Will all passengers who have not yet done so, please
> do so immediately? Thank you."
>
Like Chairman VB, they didn't get where they are today.

--
Mike.

JF

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May 23, 2006, 6:27:17 PM5/23/06
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In message <1148400636.1...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"ggd...@gmail.com" <ggd...@gmail.com> writes

>What a terrific answer, best I've ever had!
>
>Thanks Richard!

Google Groups. Says it all

R H Draney

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May 23, 2006, 8:07:04 PM5/23/06
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Mike Lyle filted:

>
>R H Draney wrote:
>>
>>"Your attention, please! Will all passengers who have not yet done so, please
>> do so immediately? Thank you."
>>
>Like Chairman VB, they didn't get where they are today.

"Where would this nation be without this great land of ours?"
- Ronald Reagan

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