Waugh: tooth glass
Marius Hancu
What's a "tooth glass?"
Didn't get anything reasonable by googling.
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Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering,
as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-
dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a tooth
glass.
Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Cheryl
I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've
brushed your teeth.
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Cheryl
James Hogg
Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results.
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James
Marius Hancu
> Cheryl wrote:
> >> What's a "tooth glass?"
> >> Didn't get anything reasonable by googling.
>
> >> -----
> >> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering,
> >> as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-
> >> dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a tooth
> >> glass.
>
> >> Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
> >> ----
>
> > I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've
> > brushed your teeth.
>
> Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results.
Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing?
http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf
Thank you both.
Marius Hancu
James Hogg
Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his
mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it.
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James
Marius Hancu
> Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his
> mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it.
OK then.
Thank you all.
Marius Hancu
Nick Spalding
on Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:59:49 +0100:
Much the same as the tumbler that we considered yesterday,
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Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
James Hogg
But with a flat base?
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James
James Silverton
Given the time at which Waugh wrote, might it not be a glass in which to
soak dentures overnight? I still remember from childhood, the dentures
of elders soaking in what I would call a "water glass" on a bedside
table. Again, it might not just be elders since a full set of dentures
was not an uncommon 21st. birthday present at certain levels of society
in England.
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James Silverton
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Wood Avens
<not.jim....@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Given the time at which Waugh wrote, might it not be a glass in which to
>soak dentures overnight? I still remember from childhood, the dentures
>of elders soaking in what I would call a "water glass" on a bedside
>table. Again, it might not just be elders since a full set of dentures
>was not an uncommon 21st. birthday present at certain levels of society
>in England.
But surely not for gilded youth like Sebastian.
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Katy Jennison
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Peter Duncanson (BrE)
A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size. The
original meanings are, per OED:
(a) (see quot. 1858);
(b) a glass used to hold false teeth;
1858 P. L. SIMMONDS Dict. Trade Products 384/2 *Tooth-glass, a
toilet water-glass for washing the mouth.
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Ildhund
Peter Duncanson (BrE) wrote...
> Marius Hancu wrote:
>>What's a "tooth glass?"
>>Didn't get anything reasonable by googling.
>>
>>-----
>>Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering, as
>>I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-dressed,
>>and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a tooth glass.
>>
>>Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
>>----
>
> A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size.
Would that be a special ordinary shape, or a unique normal one?
The original meanings are, per OED:
>
> (a) (see quot. 1858);
> (b) a glass used to hold false teeth;
>
> 1858 P. L. SIMMONDS Dict. Trade Products 384/2 *Tooth-glass, a toilet
> water-glass for washing the mouth.
I always thought water-glass was a preservative for eggs, but prompted by
your post I learn that it can also be used to mend car exhausts and head
gaskets, to seal concrete and flesh wounds and to treat sewage. The article
I read -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_glass -
also reminded me of my sister's chemical garden, which had me fascinated in
the 1950s. It was probably about this time that I heard the story of the
Scotsman who turned up at work with his head bandaged. He explained to his
solicitous coworkers that he had been putting a little toilet water behind
his ears when the seat fell on his head.
Amazing what tortuous routes one's memory negotiates and what nuggets of
new information it acquires when tickled by a little hyphen.
--
Noel
Peter Duncanson (BrE)
wrote:
>>
>> A "tooth glass" is a glass of a particular general shape and size.
>
>Would that be a special ordinary shape, or a unique normal one?
Yes.
Don Phillipson
news:9a32545c-32de-4e8e...@3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> > >> -----
> > >> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room,
entering,
> > >> as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-
> > >> dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a
tooth
> > >> glass.
> >
> > >> Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
> > > I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after you've
> > > brushed your teeth.
> >
> > Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results.
>
> Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing?
> http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf
The tacit but main points are:
1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to
drink alone, in his bedroom at home as well as in his
Oxford college suite.
2. At Oxford, college residents have their own cutlery,
crockery and glassware in case they want to eat in
their own rooms, so Sebastian never needs to look
for a glass. But at Brideshead glasses are normally
found only downstairs. However, up-to-date houses of
the period usually had a wash-basin in every bedroom
(which reduces demands on the bathrooms and
lavatories shared by the family and guests.) In a
luxurious house, these wash-basins would be
lavishly supplied with soap, hair oil, nailbrush,
face flannel and towels -- and a tooth glass. Upstairs,
when Sebastian wanted a glass (for the bottle he
had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass
was the only one conveniently available.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
the only glass Sebastian could
Marius Hancu
> > > >> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room,
> entering,
> > > >> as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-
> > > >> dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a
> tooth
> > > >> glass.
> The tacit but main points are:
> 1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to
> drink alone, in his bedroom at home as well as in his
> Oxford college suite.
This I had realized.
> 2. At Oxford, college residents have their own cutlery,
> crockery and glassware in case they want to eat in
> their own rooms, so Sebastian never needs to look
> for a glass. But at Brideshead glasses are normally
> found only downstairs. However, up-to-date houses of
> the period usually had a wash-basin in every bedroom
> (which reduces demands on the bathrooms and
> lavatories shared by the family and guests.) In a
> luxurious house, these wash-basins would be
> lavishly supplied with soap, hair oil, nailbrush,
> face flannel and towels -- and a tooth glass. Upstairs,
> when Sebastian wanted a glass (for the bottle he
> had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass
> was the only one conveniently available.
Ah, OK now.
Thank you.
Marius Hancu
Jonathan Morton
news:hhgiud$7k2$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...
>
> The tacit but main points are:
> 1. By this stage in the story, Sebastian has begun to
> drink alone, in his bedroom at home as well as in his
> Oxford college suite.
> 2. At Oxford, college residents have their own cutlery,
> crockery and glassware in case they want to eat in
> their own rooms, so Sebastian never needs to look
> for a glass. But at Brideshead glasses are normally
> found only downstairs. However, up-to-date houses of
> the period usually had a wash-basin in every bedroom
> (which reduces demands on the bathrooms and
> lavatories shared by the family and guests.) In a
> luxurious house, these wash-basins would be
> lavishly supplied with soap, hair oil, nailbrush,
> face flannel and towels -- and a tooth glass. Upstairs,
> when Sebastian wanted a glass (for the bottle he
> had earlier hidden in the wardrobe) the tooth glass
> was the only one conveniently available.
And, of course, it is a measure of how low he has sunk.
Regards
Jonathan
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Nick
I still use the term for the glasses you get in hotels. I may even say
"it's the sort of place that gives you plastic tooth glasses". Their
main use, as with Sebastian, is for drinking something you've smuggled
in.
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Chuck Riggs
wrote:
>On 31/12/09 00:59, James Hogg wrote:
>> Marius Hancu wrote:
>>> On Dec 30, 8:10 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Cheryl wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> What's a "tooth glass?" Didn't get anything reasonable by googling.
>>>>>> ----- Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room,
>>>>>> entering, as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his
>>>>>> fire half- dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and
>>>>>> put down a tooth glass. Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
>>>>>> ----
>>>
>>>>> I think a glass provided for you to rinse your mouth with after
>>>>> you've brushed your teeth.
>>>> Googling for images of a "tooth mug" gives results.
>>>
>>> Well, yes, but is this exactly the thing? http://tinyurl.com/y8j72mf
>>
>> Probably not. It could be an ordinary glass that he uses for rinsing his
>> mouth and holding his toothbrush when he isn't using it.
>>
>It would even have enough space to hold a fine tooth comb.
A million of them, even.
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Chuck Riggs,
An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
Mike Lyle
[...]
>
> I still use the term for the glasses you get in hotels. I may even
> say "it's the sort of place that gives you plastic tooth glasses".
As is my house: I have a horror of movable glass in bathrooms and beside
bedroom basins. I don't think I've ever witnessed any particularly gory
incident, but a vivid imagination has always been enough to keep me in
line.
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Mike.
Chuck Riggs
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When I was a small child, I had a gory encounter with a soft drink bottle.
I still have scars that people can observe and some of them ask about my
suicidal period. But that occurred outside, on the pavement on a sunny day.
My main horror about bathroom glass is that no matter how much you sweep
there is always a tiny splinter left which seldom produces much gore.
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GordonD
is why it's called that.
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Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
wrote:
tooth-glass n.
(a) (see quot. 1858);
1858 P. L. Simmonds Dict. Trade Products 384/2 Tooth-glass, a
1915 R. Kipling Divers. Creatures (1917) 411 That plate of the
four lower ones in the blue tooth-glass.
1978 G. Greene Human Factor v. iii. 286 The toothglasses were
swathed in plastic.
Note that is "toilet" as in "washing". It seems that today, in BrE, the
equivalent of a toilet water-glass is a "bathroom tumbler" which will
often be plastic, ceramic or metal, rather than glass.
For example:
http://www.johnlewis.com/browse/home-garden/bathroom/small-accessories/bathroom-tumblers/_/N-d0m
Such tumblers may also be used for storing smallish items such as
toothbrushes
Robert Bannister
put their false teeth in overnight.
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Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972
Peter Moylan
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2009 at 1:01:39 PM UTC, Marius Hancu wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> What's a "tooth glass?"
>> Didn't get anything reasonable by googling.
>>
>> -----
>> Then I put on my dressing gown and went to Sebastian's room, entering,
>> as I always did, without knocking. He was sitting by his fire half-
>> dressed, and he started angrily when the heard me and put down a tooth
>> glass.
>>
>> Evelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited, p. 754
>
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GordonD
were set in a boys' boarding school, so in that case at least it was
unlikely to have had that meaning.