Nose shit?
Jason
MC
jaso...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:
> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
Dena Jo
> You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
When you're dancing with your honey
And your nose gets kind of runny,
You may think that it's funny
But it's not.
--
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tomca...@yanospamhoo.com
> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
Christopher Johnson
> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
How about 'booger'?
http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/B0389500.html
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MC
Christopher Johnson <chris_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jason wrote:
>
> > What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>
>
> How about 'booger'?
Not so sure about that. I think the OP is looking for the collective
noun or generic term for snot, and a booger (or bogey in BrE) is an
*individual* piece of snot with a particular consistency (to say nothing
of flavour).
>
> http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/B0389500.html
Here's what it says there:
+++
SYLLABICATION: boog?er
PRONUNCIATION: bgr
NOUN: 1. A bogeyman. 2. Slang Dried nasal mucus. 3. Slang An item that
is unnamed or unnameable: "It's . . . like a pop-top . . . one of those
sharp little boogers you pull off the beer cans" (Hunter S. Thompson).
4. Slang a. A worthless, despicable person. b. A person; a fellow.
ETYMOLOGY: Origin unknown.
+++
I would not have made the connection to bogeyman -- is it really a
definition of "booger"? Perhaps archaic.
And I really am not sure I agree with the Hunter S. Thompson citation,.
It seems to me more a corruption of "bugger" rather than a reference to
snot.
Christopher Johnson
> In article <3FEF1836...@yahoo.com>,
> Christopher Johnson <chris_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Jason wrote:
> >
> > > What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
> >
> >
> > How about 'booger'?
>
> Not so sure about that. I think the OP is looking for the collective
> noun or generic term for snot, and a booger (or bogey in BrE) is an
> *individual* piece of snot with a particular consistency (to say nothing
> of flavour).
>
> >
> > http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/B0389500.html
>
> Here's what it says there:
>
> +++
>
> SYLLABICATION: boog?er
> PRONUNCIATION: bgr
> NOUN: 1. A bogeyman. 2. Slang Dried nasal mucus. 3. Slang An item that
> is unnamed or unnameable: "It's . . . like a pop-top . . . one of those
> sharp little boogers you pull off the beer cans" (Hunter S. Thompson).
> 4. Slang a. A worthless, despicable person. b. A person; a fellow.
> ETYMOLOGY: Origin unknown.
>
> +++
Right. I don't believe 'booger' is ever used as a *collective*
noun.
Moreover, I think the OP should perhaps have clarified what
he meant by "the proper way"; "proper" as in *biologically*
"proper" or "proper" as in *'polite company' usage* "proper"?
[..]
Spehro Pefhany
wrote:
>Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>
>Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
(dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
inclined.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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MC
Spehro Pefhany <spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
> On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
> wrote:
>
> >Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
> >
> >Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>
> Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
> (dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
> can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
> inclined.
I would have said "mucous", is an *adjective* by default.
Furthermore, even if you're talking about "mucus" (which I think you
are) it doesn't default to *nasal* mucous membranes, does it?
mucus (my??kes) noun
The viscous, slippery substance that consists chiefly of mucin, water,
cells, and inorganic salts and is secreted as a protective lubricant
coating by cells and glands of the mucous membranes.
[Latin mucus.]
AHD
Christopher Johnson
> On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
> wrote:
>
> >Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
> >
> >Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>
> Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
> (dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
> can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
> inclined.
'Mucous" is an adjective. The noun is 'mucus'.
Mucus, moreover, is secreted by mucous membranes, of which
there are several.
Your statement "Mucous is nasal by default" is therefore
nonsensical.
Spehro Pefhany
<chris_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
>> On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>> >
>> >Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>>
>> Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
>> (dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
>> can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
>> inclined.
>
>
>
>'Mucous" is an adjective. The noun is 'mucus'.
Ah, thank you. My mistake.
>Mucus, moreover, is secreted by mucous membranes, of which
>there are several.
>
>Your statement "Mucous is nasal by default" is therefore
>nonsensical.
When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
uness otherwise specified.
MC
Spehro Pefhany <spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
> uness otherwise specified.
Sez who? I wouldn't make that assumption, I don't think.
Raymond S. Wise
news:copeSP-123D54....@mail.inter.net...
The online Merriam-Webster dictionary at www.m-w.com has the following for
"booger":
[quote]
Etymology: alteration of English dialect buggard, boggart, from 1bug + -ard
Date: 1866
1 : BOGEYMAN
2 : a piece of dried nasal mucus
[end quote]
M-W dictionaries give definitions in historical order, so the "bogeyman"
sense was the original sense of the word.
From the etymology given by Merriam-Webster, "booger" was once an example of
the use of the suffix "-ard," derived ultimately from Old High German
"-hart." The suffix "-ard, when applied to things originally had--as *The
Century Dictionary* points out in its entry for that suffix--an intensive
force, which is now no longer evident. Other examples the Century gives of
such an originally intensive force for "-ard" are the words "billiard,"
"bombard," "placard," and "tankard."
The sense drift from bogeyman to dried nasal mucus would appear to be by way
of the sense "2 a : an object or source of dread b : a continuing source of
irritation : PROBLEM." That definition comes from the Merriam-Webster
online's entry for "bugbear," a related word.
--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com
John Dean
No shit, Sherlock?
--
John Dean
Oxford
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Laura F Spira
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:33:37 GMT, the renowned Christopher Johnson
> <chris_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>>>
>>>>Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>>>
>>>Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
>>>(dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
>>>can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
>>>inclined.
>>
>>
>>
>>'Mucous" is an adjective. The noun is 'mucus'.
>
>
> Ah, thank you. My mistake.
>
>
>>Mucus, moreover, is secreted by mucous membranes, of which
>>there are several.
>>
>>Your statement "Mucous is nasal by default" is therefore
>>nonsensical.
>
>
> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
> uness otherwise specified.
Not necessarily (she observed, coughing productively).
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
Spehro Pefhany
<la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>
>> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
>> uness otherwise specified.
>
>
>Not necessarily (she observed, coughing productively).
Cherche la phlegm. It's all the same stuff isn't it? Is there a single
term for that particular stuff, as opposed to mucus from other mucous
membranes?
Dr Robin Bignall
The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
Not a lot of people know that.
--
wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Quiet part of Hertfordshire
England
MC
Dr Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
> >
> >You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
>
> The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
> came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>
> Not a lot of people know that.
he may have come with her, but she could only come with his associates.
That's why they called them the Merry Men.
Frances Kemmish
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:03:30 -0500, MC <cop...@AMZAPca.inter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com>,
>>jaso...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>
>>You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
>
>
> The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
> came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>
> Not a lot of people know that.
>
Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
--
Frances Kemmish
Production Manager
East Coast Youth Ballet
www.byramartscenter.com
John Varela
I would.
--
John Varela
(Trade "OLD" lamps for "NEW" for email.)
I apologize for munging the address but the spam is too much.
Simon R. Hughes
> Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:03:30 -0500, MC <cop...@AMZAPca.inter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com>,
>>>jaso...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>
>>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>>
>>>You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
>>
>> The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
>> came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>>
>> Not a lot of people know that.
>
> Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
Was he the son of Sax?
--
Simon R. Hughes
Robert Bannister
> On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
> wrote:
>
>
>>Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>
>>Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>
>
> Mucous is nasal by default.
What? (I was even tempted to add 3 exclamation marks.)
--
Rob Bannister
Robert Bannister
> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
> uness otherwise specified.
You're still wrong. I suggest you investigate wounds or even vaginas.
--
Rob Bannister
Dr Robin Bignall
<spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:25:20 +0000, the renowned Laura F Spira
><la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>>
>>> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
>>> uness otherwise specified.
>>
>>
>>Not necessarily (she observed, coughing productively).
>
>Cherche la phlegm. It's all the same stuff isn't it? Is there a single
>term for that particular stuff, as opposed to mucus from other mucous
>membranes?
>
Slimy.
Dr Robin Bignall
Including me.
This has been a shit-why-didn't-I-think-of-that (SWDITOT) moment. I have
lots of those here in AUE.
Jason
polite way to refer to 'dry mucus'. In Chinese, if literally
translated, it's 'nose shit' but of course I know this is incorrect.
;) The usage where I want to apply this word is when I see someone and
there's 'nose shit' sticking out of his nose.. how would I say it?
Excuse me, you have ?? on your nose? Thanks again for all the help.
Christopher Johnson <chris_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3FEF1E18...@yahoo.com>...
Christopher Green
> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
Another term, not mentioned so far in this thread, is the ad-man's
euphemism "post-nasal drip".
--
Chris Green
MC
cj.g...@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green) wrote:
We-e-e-e-l-l-l now...
It is a medical condition, not an adman's iinvention:
http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/nose/nasal.cfm
...which has a graphic that shows it really has nothing to do with snot.
Dr Robin Bignall
<fkem...@optonline.net> wrote:
>Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:03:30 -0500, MC <cop...@AMZAPca.inter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com>,
>>>jaso...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>>
>>>You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
>>
>>
>> The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
>> came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>>
>> Not a lot of people know that.
>>
>
>Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important, but a
stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most important
north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for Nottingham.
Some big tribe living in a very large country a few thousand miles to my
west has often adopted native names for places which they invaded.
Let us give the last word to Humph. From ISIHAC.
"It's well documented in official records that the City's original name was
'Snottingham', or 'Home of Snots', but when the Normans came, they couldn't
pronounce the letter 'S', so decreed the town be called 'Nottingham' or the
'Home of Notts'. It's easy to understand why this change was resisted so
fiercely by the people of Scunthorpe."
MC
Dr Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
>
> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important, but a
> stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most important
> north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for Nottingham.
> Some big tribe living in a very large country a few thousand miles to my
> west has often adopted native names for places which they invaded.
Hence Dildo, Newfoundland. Unless of course you were referring to
another very large country a few thousand miles to your west.
R H Draney
Now there's a suggestion worthy of a bumper sticker at the very least....
And now here's Kinky Friedman, the Texas Jewboy, to take us into the commercial:
Ol' Ben Lucas had a lot of mucus
Comin’ right out of his nose.
He picked and picked till it made you sick,
But back again it grows.
When it’s cotton picking time in Texas,
Boys, it’s booger picking time for Ben.
He’d raise that finger mean and hostile
Stick it in that waitin’ nostril,
Here he comes with a green one once again.
....r
sand
<spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>On 28 Dec 2003 15:09:14 GMT, the renowned tomca...@yaNOSPAMhoo.com
>wrote:
>
>>Jason <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>
>>Nasal mucus, runny or dried.
>
>Mucous is nasal by default. If you want slang, there's "boogers"
>(dried or dried + wet mucous) or snot (the runny kind of mucous). You
>can refer to your nose as "the old snot locker" if you are so
>inclined.
I wonder when a facial tissue company will call its product "Booger
Off".
S&
Spehro Pefhany
So, if a young lady with the sniffles and a bandaged hand mentions
that she has a lot of mucus, would you inquire after her wound, her
vagina or her nose?
sand
Green) wrote:
Although you may describe this message as a post nasal drip, I believe
the term replies to the material going backwards down the throat, not
out of the nostril.
S&
Raymond S. Wise
news:vuua9fd...@corp.supernews.com...
I've reconsidered. I suspect that the use of "-ard" in question is the
pejorative one usually used when the suffix is applied to humans, as in
"drunkard" and "bastard." "Booger" originally meant a bogeyman, not a thing
but a creature of some sort.
Raymond S. Wise
news:7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com...
> Thanks for all the replies. Sorry I should have clarified. I wanted a
> polite way to refer to 'dry mucus'. In Chinese, if literally
> translated, it's 'nose shit' but of course I know this is incorrect.
> ;) The usage where I want to apply this word is when I see someone and
> there's 'nose shit' sticking out of his nose.. how would I say it?
> Excuse me, you have ?? on your nose? Thanks again for all the help.
Ordinarily, if you were going to broach the subject at all, you would point
to your *own* nose to give the person an idea of where the problem was and
say, "Excuse me, you have something there." In other words, it's a delicate
subject, and I'd hesitate using any particular term for the dried mucus,
including "dried mucus," unless the person was a personal friend of mine who
I knew didn't mind the term "booger." That term is a bit vulgar, and "dried
mucus" sounds like a medical term.
It's doubtful that "nose shit" is the most apt literal translation of
"booger" because the word "shit" is a taboo word. It's not permitted, for
example, on network or basic cable programs in the United States, often
being bleeped in movies shown on TV or when used as an
exclamation--"Shit!"--being overdubbed with "Shoot!" as I saw just this
evening when the cable network "Comedy Central" showed an
edited-for-television version of the movie *The Blues Brothers.* The most
apt literal translation is presumably "nose feces."
Raymond S. Wise
news:bsnt8u$1d4$1...@enyo.uwa.edu.au...
In this case you should use at least one!
"What?!"
It's interesting to see the various ways that the *South Park* character
Sheila Broflovski's catchphrase "What what *what*?!" is punctuated in Web
pages. Do a Google search for
"south park" "sheila" "what what what"
The authors of several pages chose to give it a stretch of four punctuation
marks: <?!?!>.
Tony Cooper
<illinoi...@mninter.net> wrote:
>"Jason" <jaso...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com...
>> Thanks for all the replies. Sorry I should have clarified. I wanted a
>> polite way to refer to 'dry mucus'. In Chinese, if literally
>> translated, it's 'nose shit' but of course I know this is incorrect.
>> ;) The usage where I want to apply this word is when I see someone and
>> there's 'nose shit' sticking out of his nose.. how would I say it?
>> Excuse me, you have ?? on your nose? Thanks again for all the help.
>
>
>Ordinarily, if you were going to broach the subject at all, you would point
>to your *own* nose to give the person an idea of where the problem was and
>say, "Excuse me, you have something there." In other words, it's a delicate
>subject, and I'd hesitate using any particular term for the dried mucus,
>including "dried mucus," unless the person was a personal friend of mine who
>I knew didn't mind the term "booger." That term is a bit vulgar, and "dried
>mucus" sounds like a medical term.
Agreed. The object itself is never mentioned in polite conversation.
The traditional tip-off is to repeatedly brush your own nose. This
will often trigger an almost Pavlovian response in the other person to
brush their nose and thus dislodge the offending object. Hopefully,
the object will fall directly on the floor and not on the person's
chin. The fall trajectory is often influenced by facial hair in the
case of men, and protruding anatomical features in the case of women.
Sometimes it takes a stronger signal and the signaler must nose brush
in an exceedingly more exaggerated manner. The signaler must be
careful if this is done in a crowded room - a party setting, for
example - because it will often result in everyone in the room (except
the person with the nostril-embedded object) to surreptitiously check
their noses. Women will pull out compacts, and men will try to find
shiny and reflective objects to examine. Conversations will cease and
the general flow of the party will be disrupted.
Relationships that might have developed may be snipped in the bud.
Both parties will think that what they thought was a meaningful
conversation was only the result of the rapt horror of looking at
someone that had something the size of a Portobello mushroom lodged in
a nostril.
Matti Lamprhey
>
> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important,
> but a stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most
> important north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for
> Nottingham. Some big tribe living in a very large country a few
> thousand miles to my west has often adopted native names for places
> which they invaded.
Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC, and
therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
never had a Roman name!
It certainly lies close to the Fosse Way, but that wasn't the Romans'
most important north/south route. It was originally constructed as a
military road marking the boundary of their early occupation. It runs
south-west / north-east; this might have remained useful for local
travel, but once its significance as a boundary was removed it can never
have been of strategic importance.
Matti
MC
"Raymond S. Wise" <illinoi...@mninter.net> wrote:
> The authors of several pages chose to give it a stretch of four punctuation
> marks: <?!?!>.
The double interrobang?!
Tony Cooper
<matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>"Dr Robin Bignall" <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>>
>> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important,
>> but a stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most
>> important north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for
>> Nottingham. Some big tribe living in a very large country a few
>> thousand miles to my west has often adopted native names for places
>> which they invaded.
>
>Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC, and
>therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
>never had a Roman name!
Is this the same Snotta that lived in digs over in Bayswater? The
Snotta in E Flat?
Alasdair Baxter
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
>came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>
>Not a lot of people know that.
A notice at the entrance to the caves in the Broadmarsh Centre says
the old Celtic name for Nottingham was Ty na Bac. As a speaker of
Scots Gaelic, it would be very close to Tigh na bac meaning house in
the embankment.
I suspect the type of Celtic used in the East Midlands would be "P"
Celtic and would be more akin to Welsh than to Scots.
--
Alasdair Baxter, Nottingham, UK.Tel +44 115 9705100; Fax +44 115 9423263
"It's not what you say that matters but how you say it.
It's not what you do that matters but how you do it"
Matti Lamprhey
> "Matti Lamprhey" <matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
> >
> >Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC [...]
>
> Is this the same Snotta that lived in digs over in Bayswater? The
> Snotta in E Flat?
Until the chap upstairs objected to his piano-playing.
A sharp major, by all accounts.
Matti
- Quasi una Fantasia
Tony Cooper
Right. The chap with the landlord named Brutus, to whom he remarked
"Etude, Brutus?"
John Dean
Until he decamped at midnight and became known to the Landlord as the
Moonlight Snotta.
--
John Dean
Oxford
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sand
<illinoi...@mninter.net> wrote:
>I've reconsidered. I suspect that the use of "-ard" in question is the
>pejorative one usually used when the suffix is applied to humans, as in
>"drunkard" and "bastard." "Booger" originally meant a bogeyman, not a thing
>but a creature of some sort.
It might be related to "bogey" which is a moving object used as a
target in military shooting practice.
S&
rzed
"John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
news:bspil4$51q$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
I heard he went to Australia and started manufacturing cutlery. To this day,
you still hear about that Snotta knife.
--
rzed
R H Draney
Interroterrobangbang....
Invented by Ian Fleming, the discoverer of penicillin....r
Mike Lyle
> > On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 10:25:45 -0000, "Matti Lamprhey"
> > <matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
> >> Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC, and
> >> therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
> >> never had a Roman name!
> >
> > Is this the same Snotta that lived in digs over in Bayswater? The
> > Snotta in E Flat?
>
> Until he decamped at midnight and became known to the Landlord as the
> Moonlight Snotta.
That's Pathetique!
Mike.
MC
R H Draney <dado...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >The double interrobang?!
>
> Interroterrobangbang....
>
> Invented by Ian Fleming, the discoverer of penicillin....r
...*and* he won an gold medal in the ladies figure skating at the 1968
Olympics.
Opus the Penguin
Ah, that Snotta joke!
--
Opus the Penguin (that's my real email addy)
You snipped my sig!
tomca...@yanospamhoo.com
>>The double interrobang?!
> Interroterrobangbang....
> Invented by Ian Fleming, the discoverer of penicillin....r
Oh you pretty interro bang bang interro interro bang bang we love you.
Robert Bannister
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:03:30 -0500, MC <cop...@AMZAPca.inter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>In article <7a5b950d.03122...@posting.google.com>,
>>jaso...@yahoo.com (Jason) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
>>
>>You may think it's nose shit, but it's not.
>
>
> The Romans used to call Nottingham 'Snottingham', long before Robin Hood
> came with Maid Marion in Sherwood Forest.
>
> Not a lot of people know that.
>
What - about Robin coming?
--
Rob Bannister
Robert Bannister
> 29 Dec 03, 04:34. Bogdan Watula --> Dejrgris:
>
> BW>>> Правда, в последних главах (вроде как с книги Белиала) он,
> BW>>> видимо, совсем чокнулся :(
>
> D>> Гхм. В чём конкретно это проявляется? Hичего такого что-то не
> D>> припоминаю...
>
> > Вот, нарыл у себя. Последние две, начиная с книги Белиала - это уже не
> > философия жизни, это маразм на нервной почве :( Hу нафига было в магию-то
> > удаляться ? Почитав несколько опусов из сатанинских ритуалов сразу
> > начинаешь его воспринимать иначе. Хуже. Есть куча замечательных книг по
> > практической магии, зачем было перепечатывать и вносить в них эдакую
> > пузи-злойбу ?..
>
> ты эта.. Хватит ерунду всяку читать. И тем более принимать все за чистую
> монету. не смеши ;-)
>
> > --
> > (Земля) Книга Белиала - Господство над Землей
>
> [...]
>
How did this message appear on my computer as an AUE message with Doc
Robin's name as sender? (Took me ages to find the correct character
coding before I could even read it.)
--
Rob Bannister
Alasdair Baxter
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>"It's well documented in official records that the City's original name was
>'Snottingham', or 'Home of Snots', but when the Normans came, they couldn't
>pronounce the letter 'S', so decreed the town be called 'Nottingham' or the
>'Home of Notts'. It's easy to understand why this change was resisted so
>fiercely by the people of Scunthorpe."
Dr Robin Bignall
>In article <hp4vuvcuplhq6skj2...@4ax.com>,
> Dr Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> >Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
>>
>> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important, but a
>> stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most important
>> north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for Nottingham.
>> Some big tribe living in a very large country a few thousand miles to my
>> west has often adopted native names for places which they invaded.
>
>Hence Dildo, Newfoundland. Unless of course you were referring to
>another very large country a few thousand miles to your west.
I was thinking of somewhere a little south of Canada. Chappaquiddick ring
any bells?
--
wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Quiet part of Hertfordshire
England
MC
Dr Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:13:39 -0500, MC <cop...@AMZAPca.inter.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <hp4vuvcuplhq6skj2...@4ax.com>,
> > Dr Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >Not many Romans, I wouldn't think, Snottingham being the Saxson name.
> >>
> >> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important, but a
> >> stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most important
> >> north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for Nottingham.
> >> Some big tribe living in a very large country a few thousand miles to my
> >> west has often adopted native names for places which they invaded.
> >
> >Hence Dildo, Newfoundland. Unless of course you were referring to
> >another very large country a few thousand miles to your west.
>
> I was thinking of somewhere a little south of Canada. Chappaquiddick ring
> any bells?
It used to, but that's all water under the bridge now.
Dr Robin Bignall
<spef...@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 08:44:00 +0800, the renowned Robert Bannister
><rob...@it.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>
>>
>>> When one refers to mucus, it is ordinarily assumed to be nasal mucus
>>> uness otherwise specified.
>>
>>You're still wrong. I suggest you investigate wounds or even vaginas.
>
>So, if a young lady with the sniffles and a bandaged hand mentions
>that she has a lot of mucus, would you inquire after her wound, her
>vagina or her nose?
>
No, just her phone number. The rest can wait until she feels better.
Dr Robin Bignall
<matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>"Dr Robin Bignall" <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>>
>> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most important,
>> but a stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably their most
>> important north/south route. I have never heard of any Latin name for
>> Nottingham. Some big tribe living in a very large country a few
>> thousand miles to my west has often adopted native names for places
>> which they invaded.
>
>Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC, and
>therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
>never had a Roman name!
>
What is now known as Nottingham was a settlement of some kind dating back
to the stone age, as far as I can remember from a school trip to a local
museum over 50 years ago. They had Roman bits and pieces there, too. The
reason given, I recall, is that it sat on the only fordable bit of the
River Trent for many miles.
>It certainly lies close to the Fosse Way, but that wasn't the Romans'
>most important north/south route. It was originally constructed as a
>military road marking the boundary of their early occupation. It runs
>south-west / north-east; this might have remained useful for local
>travel, but once its significance as a boundary was removed it can never
>have been of strategic importance.
>
Some of the straight parts of the A1 road between London and the Midlands
follow the Fosse Way on the route from London right up to beyond Yorkshire,
running slightly east of north. Those straight parts (no curves) follow the
original Roman route and are typical of Roman roads - no corners for an
enemy to hide behind in ambush. Before the motorway M1 was built in the
1950s, it was the only main route up the eastern side of England.
For example, the A1 runs through Yorkshire and passes just a mile or two
west of York.
England was invaded in 43 AD by 4 Roman Legions. (This was in the reign of
Claudius.)
In 71 AD the Roman 9th Legion arrived in what is now York but was then
called Eboracum.
The locals, who were nomadic tribes called brigantines, didn't stand a
chance.
York lies between two rivers the river Foss and the River Ouse. The Romans
built their fortress on the north side of the river Ouse. Lying beneath
what is now York Minster. The fortress housed about 6000 men. At the
southwest side of the river Ouse, eventually a civilian town grew up. York
then became the capital of northern England.
Since the Romans were always having trouble with the Scottish (which is why
they eventually built 73 miles of Hadrian's Wall across the narrow neck of
England in Northumberland, in AD 112), I find it difficult to believe that
the Fosse Way was of no strategic importance. It must have been just about
the only route to keep the garrisons in York and Northumberland supplied
from the south.
R F
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
> Some of the straight parts of the A1 road between London and the Midlands
> follow the Fosse Way on the route from London right up to beyond Yorkshire,
> running slightly east of north.
Named for famous straight Chicagoan choreographer Bob Fosse? (NTTAWWT.)
Matti Lamprhey
> "Matti Lamprhey" <matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
> >"Dr Robin Bignall" <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
> >>
> >> Nottingham was a Roman garrison town, not one of the most
> >> important, but a stopping place near to the Fosse way, probably
> >> their most important north/south route. I have never heard of
> >> any Latin name for Nottingham. Some big tribe living in a very
> >> large country a few thousand miles to my west has often adopted
> >> native names for places which they invaded.
> >
> >Nottingham didn't exist until Snotta turned up in the 6thC, and
> >therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
> >never had a Roman name!
> >
> What is now known as Nottingham was a settlement of some kind dating
> back to the stone age, as far as I can remember from a school trip to
> a local museum over 50 years ago. They had Roman bits and pieces
> there, too. The reason given, I recall, is that it sat on the only
> fordable bit of the River Trent for many miles.
It's possible to find Roman bits & pieces just about anywhere, but you
can't infer a settlement from that. My Ordnance Survey map of Roman
Britain has absolutely nothing at or near the present Nottingham.
Partly. Once the initial conquests were complete, the main route north
from the south east more or less followed the line of what became the
A1, the Great North Road. Before this was established, the military
route from London (LONDINIUM) ran up the present A5, Watling Street, as
far as its junction with the Fosse Way at High Cross (VENONIS), then
followed the Fosse Way over to Lincoln (LINDUM) before renewing a more
northerly course towards Catterick (CATARACTONIUM), the Pictish folk
and other Hic Dracones outlandishments. So yes, a minor portion of the
Fosse Way remained important strategically for a while.
Matti
John Dean
> "Dr Robin Bignall" <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>> "Matti Lamprhey" <matti-...@totally-official.com> wrote:
>>> "Dr Robin Bignall" <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>>>>
>>>
>>> therefore cannot have been a Roman anything, Robin; this is why it
>>> never had a Roman name!
>>>
>
> can't infer a settlement from that. My Ordnance Survey map of Roman
> Britain has absolutely nothing at or near the present Nottingham.
>
roads so straight.
david56
If they didn't have Ordnance Survey, how would they have known where
to put their road so that it would cover the same route as the A1?
--
David
=====
Dr Robin Bignall
>On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:53:05 +0000, Dr Robin Bignall
><docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>"It's well documented in official records that the City's original name was
>>'Snottingham', or 'Home of Snots', but when the Normans came, they couldn't
>>pronounce the letter 'S', so decreed the town be called 'Nottingham' or the
>>'Home of Notts'. It's easy to understand why this change was resisted so
>>fiercely by the people of Scunthorpe."
>
>A notice at the entrance to the caves in the Broadmarsh Centre says
>the old Celtic name for Nottingham was Ty na Bac. As a speaker of
>Scots Gaelic, it would be very close to Tigh na bac meaning house in
>the embankment.
>
In the 1950s, long before Broadmarsh was built over them, there were two
derelict white Georgian mansions standing just to the city side of where
Redmayne & Todd's sporting shop is or was (I guess it has gone by now).
Under them were entrances to those caves, which seemed to run for miles. A
friend and I once took torches and chalk, and explored them for a couple of
hundred yards. They were spooky and we didn't stay long, and later learned
at school that they were part of the honeycomb of tunnels which runs under
the castle and its rock. Since the Castle Rock is the highest point in the
area, I wonder if there's always been some sort of building on it, and if
it's the embankment referred to? The River Trent might have been wider and
shallower in ancient times, and have run past the rock, for it was a ford
before it was bridged.
Dr Robin Bignall
wrote:
Unless he was a screamer I guess it might have been a secret between them.
Dr Robin Bignall
wrote:
>Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
Fascinating stuff, isn't it, and I even didn't know I could write in that
language. Over in AEU, Ayaz Khan reported that after some problem with the
German server he found some posts of mine attributed to others. This is the
vice versa bit.
R H Draney
>
>On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:43:29 +0800, Robert Bannister <rob...@it.net.au>
>wrote:
>
>>Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>>
>>> ты эта.. Хватит ерунду всяку читать. И тем более принимать все за чистую
>>> монету. не смеши ;-)
>>>
>>Robin's name as sender? (Took me ages to find the correct character
>>coding before I could even read it.)
>
>Fascinating stuff, isn't it, and I even didn't know I could write in that
>language. Over in AEU, Ayaz Khan reported that after some problem with the
>German server he found some posts of mine attributed to others. This is the
>vice versa bit.
According to Babelfish, what "you" wrote translates as:
you this. It will be sufficient nonsense vsyaku to read. And all the more to
assume everything for the clean coin. do not amuse ;-)
The tone appears to fit that of a typical AUE conversation, but the smiley is a
dead giveaway....r
Steve Hayes
>What is the proper way to refer to the waste inside your nose? Nose shit?
Snot.
Steve Hayes
haye...@hotmail.com
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
John Dean
Excellent point. It must also have enabled them to check that Watling St
wasn't already in use as a name for a thoroughfare.
Robert Bannister
Strange. I don't have the original of this reply by Spehro. I have to
say I have never heard anyone say they have a lot of mucus unless they
have previously mentioned something about their nose. They would be more
likely to say their nose was blocked or they had a runny nose.
--
Rob Bannister
Matti Lamprhey
> Midlands follow the Fosse Way on the route from London right up to
> beyond Yorkshire, running slightly east of north. Those straight parts
> (no curves) follow the original Roman route and are typical of Roman
> roads - no corners for an enemy to hide behind in ambush. Before
> the motorway M1 was built in the 1950s, it was the only main route
> up the eastern side of England.
This has been bothering me for a day or two, and I think it holds the
clue to our disagreement about the Fosse Way. I believe you're
describing a different Roman road, Ermine Street. This is the one which
the A1 dodges in and out of, and crosses the Fosse Way at LINDUM
(Lincoln). (The present A1 crosses the Fosse a few miles west, at
Newark.) Ermine Street was certainly the more strategically important
North-South route for the latter part of the Roman occupation.
Matti
R F
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Matti Lamprhey wrote:
> (The present A1 crosses the Fosse a few miles west, at Newark.)
Now THAT ghetto!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
Matti Lamprhey
>
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Matti Lamprhey wrote:
>
> > (The present A1 crosses the Fosse a few miles west, at Newark.)
>
> Now THAT ghetto!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
EXACTLY!!!!! How GAY is THAT???????
Matti
Skitt
> "R F" wrote...
>> Matti Lamprhey wrote:
>>> (The present A1 crosses the Fosse a few miles west, at Newark.)
>>
>> Now THAT ghetto!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!
>
> EXACTLY!!!!! How GAY is THAT???????
WORD!
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
Dr Robin Bignall
I won't disagree, Matti, because I'm trying to remember back to university
days. I used to take the A1 rather than the M1 when I went to see my
parents in Nottingham, because the old bangers I used to be able to afford
in those days were unreliable, and one cannot stop to fix a car on
motorways. Newark is a town that I used to know well, because a couple of
friends at A-Level college came from there. I seem to have a memory that
somewhere on the A1 there's a sign or signs pointing out that at that point
it was part of, or followed, the Fosse Way. But it's been 40 years or more
since I drove up the A1 further north than Stamford, which was a Roman
town.
R F
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
> Newark is a town that I used to know well, because a couple of
> friends at A-Level college came from there. I seem to have a memory that
> somewhere on the A1 there's a sign or signs pointing out that at that point
> it was part of, or followed, the Fosse Way. But it's been 40 years or more
> since I drove up the A1 further north than Stamford, which was a Roman
> town.
Stamford! Now THAT ghetto as vell! LOL!
I think they were Neapolitans, not Romans, though.
Dr Robin Bignall
wrote:
>
>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>
>> Newark is a town that I used to know well, because a couple of
>> friends at A-Level college came from there. I seem to have a memory that
>> somewhere on the A1 there's a sign or signs pointing out that at that point
>> it was part of, or followed, the Fosse Way. But it's been 40 years or more
>> since I drove up the A1 further north than Stamford, which was a Roman
>> town.
>
>Stamford! Now THAT ghetto as vell! LOL!
>
The only Stamford I've been to over your side of the pond is in
Connecticut. Didn't seem ghetto-like in the slightest.
Frances Kemmish
There are certainly parts of Stamford CT that are more than slightly
ghetto-like. That city, like Newark NJ, is quite unlike its UK counterpart.
--
Frances Kemmish
Production Manager
East Coast Youth Ballet
www.byramartscenter.com
R F
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:32:33 -0500, R F <rfon...@alumni.wesleyan.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
> >
> >> Newark is a town that I used to know well, because a couple of
> >> friends at A-Level college came from there. I seem to have a memory that
> >> somewhere on the A1 there's a sign or signs pointing out that at that point
> >> it was part of, or followed, the Fosse Way. But it's been 40 years or more
> >> since I drove up the A1 further north than Stamford, which was a Roman
> >> town.
> >
> >Stamford! Now THAT ghetto as vell! LOL!
> >
> The only Stamford I've been to over your side of the pond is in
> Connecticut. Didn't seem ghetto-like in the slightest.
That's because you only went to the eerie-looking part with all the
glass-and-steel skyscrapers and the general atmosphere of a ghost town
(NTTAWWT). That Stamford is a satellite business center for New York
(Largest City in America). Had you turned around or to the side you'd
have seen the *real* Stamford, which is your standard decaying
Northeastern mill-town (albeit with some New Englandy touches like a
preference for pale green house siding).
Frances Kemmish
> That's because you only went to the eerie-looking part with all the
> glass-and-steel skyscrapers and the general atmosphere of a ghost town
> (NTTAWWT). That Stamford is a satellite business center for New York
> (Largest City in America). Had you turned around or to the side you'd
> have seen the *real* Stamford, which is your standard decaying
> Northeastern mill-town (albeit with some New Englandy touches like a
> preference for pale green house siding).
>
Why do you consider some parts of Stamford more "real" than others? They
are all part of the city.
R F
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Frances Kemmish wrote:
> R F wrote:
>
> > That's because you only went to the eerie-looking part with all the
> > glass-and-steel skyscrapers and the general atmosphere of a ghost town
> > (NTTAWWT). That Stamford is a satellite business center for New York
> > (Largest City in America). Had you turned around or to the side you'd
> > have seen the *real* Stamford, which is your standard decaying
> > Northeastern mill-town (albeit with some New Englandy touches like a
> > preference for pale green house siding).
> >
>
> Why do you consider some parts of Stamford more "real" than others? They
> are all part of the city.
The Corporate part of Stamford has always seemed unreal to me, and the
really odd thing about Stamford is the contrast between the unrealness of
the Corporate city and the standard realness of the crumbling mill-town
port city. This might just be me, though.
Frances Kemmish
Yes, I think it's just you. I have shopped, worked, dined, been to the
theatre, caught trains, attended high school graduations, helped put on
ballets, and undergone surgery - all in Stamford; and found the
"corporate" city just as real as the other parts of the city - even the
parts you seem to have missed.
Would you like to define what you mean by "real"?
R F
I'm not sure, but I was recently in New York, and got to musing about the
differences between this Largest City in America and Chicago, the Third
Largest City in America. I'd say that Chicago seems "less real" than New
York. There's less vibrancy-of-urban-life, and too much uniformity in
the nature of the urban experience, in Chicago. Chicago is like a
city wrapped in perpetual shadow, a city of death if you will. New York
is a city of life, of light, of sunshine, figuratively speaking. This has
nothing to do with the visual experience of the two cities, since they
look so similar (except that Chicago's landlocked). (However, the people
of Chicago look very different, on the whole, from the people of New York
-- half the people you see in Chicago look like they just walked off of a
farm (NTTAWWF).)
Well, so Stamford's sort of like that too, except for the farm thing.
Dr Robin Bignall
This was in the mid-eighties, Frances. Maybe I only went to the good bits,
or possibly my IBM guardian-angel was watching over me. Apropos of that, a
year or two before that I attended a conference Monday through Friday in
hotel in downtown Washington DC. It was my first visit there, so I stayed
the weekend to see the sights, and on the Saturday evening went out and
wandered around, eventually ending up in a Sushi bar (Sushi was, and still
is, very expensive in England, so I made the most of being on expenses). I
flew out on the Sunday for a Monday meeting in Poughkeepsie, and when I
mentioned that I'd been wandering around Washington at night in a suit,
many of the Americans winced, and told me I was lucky to escape unscathed.
I never saw any trouble at all.
Dr Robin Bignall
wrote:
>
Wow! Everywhere I've been in the States, the people looked pretty normal to
me, but were in general much friendlier than in London or Paris. Even in
Redneck bars in Texas. Maybe the British accent helps, plus the fact that
if I'm standing next to people for a while, I usually talk to them.
Frances Kemmish
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 10:41:03 -0500, Frances Kemmish
> <fkem...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:32:33 -0500, R F <rfon...@alumni.wesleyan.edu>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Dr Robin Bignall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Newark is a town that I used to know well, because a couple of
>>>>>friends at A-Level college came from there. I seem to have a memory that
>>>>>somewhere on the A1 there's a sign or signs pointing out that at that point
>>>>>it was part of, or followed, the Fosse Way. But it's been 40 years or more
>>>>>since I drove up the A1 further north than Stamford, which was a Roman
>>>>>town.
>>>>
>>>>Stamford! Now THAT ghetto as vell! LOL!
>>>>
>>>
>>>The only Stamford I've been to over your side of the pond is in
>>>Connecticut. Didn't seem ghetto-like in the slightest.
>>>
>>
>>
>>There are certainly parts of Stamford CT that are more than slightly
>>ghetto-like. That city, like Newark NJ, is quite unlike its UK counterpart.
>
>
> This was in the mid-eighties, Frances. Maybe I only went to the good bits,
> or possibly my IBM guardian-angel was watching over me.
We moved to Connecticut in 1985 - maybe we were there at the same time.
It is relatively easy to avoid the more seedy and dangerous parts of
Stamford, although I have taken wrong turns and found myself in places
that made me a little nervous. I have never actually had a problem there
myself, but I have an acquaintance who used to work in the emergency
room at Stamford hospital, and recounted hair-raising tales of Saturday
mights with gang wars, drug overdoses, and knifings..
Apropos of that, a
> year or two before that I attended a conference Monday through Friday in
> hotel in downtown Washington DC. It was my first visit there, so I stayed
> the weekend to see the sights, and on the Saturday evening went out and
> wandered around, eventually ending up in a Sushi bar (Sushi was, and still
> is, very expensive in England, so I made the most of being on expenses). I
> flew out on the Sunday for a Monday meeting in Poughkeepsie, and when I
> mentioned that I'd been wandering around Washington at night in a suit,
> many of the Americans winced, and told me I was lucky to escape unscathed.
> I never saw any trouble at all.
>
In the late 1970s, American friends of ours had to cower under the back
seat of the cab they had hailed in DC, while the cab driver engaged in a
gun fight with a business rival of some kind. We had left Washington DC
only a couple of days earlier, and had seen no problems. We were told
that it was at that time the murder capital of the US - a title it had
recently taken from Detroit.
I hope that Washington is a safer place now, since my daughter is there.
J Alfred Prufrock
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:08:21 -0500, R F <rfon...@alumni.wesleyan.edu>
>wrote:
>> (However, the people
>>of Chicago look very different, on the whole, from the people of New York
>>-- half the people you see in Chicago look like they just walked off of a
>>farm (NTTAWWF).)
>>
>>Well, so Stamford's sort of like that too, except for the farm thing.
>>
>Wow! Everywhere I've been in the States, the people looked pretty normal to
>me, but were in general much friendlier than in London or Paris. Even in
>Redneck bars in Texas. Maybe the British accent helps, plus the fact that
>if I'm standing next to people for a while, I usually talk to them.
If you can get close enough. Houston, in particular, can boast of
having the fattest people in the United States, surely making them the
fattest people in the world, if you don't count sumo wrestlers. As for
backward rednecks, the rednecks found in Bush's boastful state are not
the very worst in the country. You'd probably have to go to Alabama,
Georgia, or Mississippi to find the best examples.
--
Alfred
ROCK
jjp
> <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:08:21 -0500, R F <rfon...@alumni.wesleyan.edu>
> >wrote:
>
> >> (However, the people
> >>of Chicago look very different, on the whole, from the people of New York
> >>-- half the people you see in Chicago look like they just walked off of a
> >>farm (NTTAWWF).)
> >>
> >>Well, so Stamford's sort of like that too, except for the farm thing.
> >>
> >Wow! Everywhere I've been in the States, the people looked pretty normal to
> >me, but were in general much friendlier than in London or Paris. Even in
> >Redneck bars in Texas. Maybe the British accent helps, plus the fact that
> >if I'm standing next to people for a while, I usually talk to them.
>
> If you can get close enough. Houston, in particular, can boast of
> having the fattest people in the United States, surely making them the
> fattest people in the world, if you don't count sumo wrestlers.
I assume you are referring to the Men's Fitness Magazine "study."
This "study" by Men's Fitness is junk science. What's really sad is
that other sources report it as if scientific fact.
You know what operationalizations (ways to measure) obesity they used?
Things such as number of pizza joints, weather, and number of sporting
goods stores. That tells us nothing about what the people actually
look like.
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) also did a study using federal
data. It was much more scientific and looked at BMIs. Houston isn't at
the top of the list of that one. I don't know why that one isn't
reported more often.
> As for
> backward rednecks, the rednecks found in Bush's boastful state are not
> the very worst in the country. You'd probably have to go to Alabama,
> Georgia, or Mississippi to find the best examples.
Small-town Texas is VERY different from big city Texas. And you are
right; there are more "rednecks" in other areas. Texas actually has a
large population of people who have moved in from places like
California and other states, as well as other countries. Houston, for
example, is very international and has a very diverse population. It
has a large Asian population. It's not "redneck" at all.
Dr Robin Bignall
<fkem...@optonline.net> wrote:
>We moved to Connecticut in 1985 - maybe we were there at the same time.
>
Probably. The particular assignment that took me to Stamford and Milford a
dozen or so times was 1983 - 1987.
> It is relatively easy to avoid the more seedy and dangerous parts of
>Stamford, although I have taken wrong turns and found myself in places
>that made me a little nervous. I have never actually had a problem there
>myself, but I have an acquaintance who used to work in the emergency
>room at Stamford hospital, and recounted hair-raising tales of Saturday
>mights with gang wars, drug overdoses, and knifings..
>
Those last two are not unusual in British hospitals these days,
particularly in 'Accident and Emergency' departments, where either the
patient or his friends run out of patience.