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Masa

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:07:38 AM1/7/10
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east of north


Is this the same as "north east"?

I think we rarely see such a way of expression as EAST OF NORTH in
english writings
these days, while I have come across one in a book written old times.

And I don't find this way of phrase in dictionaries even for an
example sentence as I searched.

HVS

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:17:04 AM1/7/10
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On 07 Jan 2010, Masa wrote

> east of north
>
>
> Is this the same as "north east"?

The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on. I'd take
"east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE.

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Masa

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:46:01 AM1/7/10
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>
> > east of north
>
> > Is this the same as "north east"?
>
> The usual compass points are N, NNE, NE, ENE, E, and so on.  I'd take
> "east of north" to mean NNE rather than NE.
>

So, east well to the north

James Hogg

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:56:44 AM1/7/10
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More probably just a few degrees to the east of north, no further east
than NNE.

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John Holmes

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:37:25 AM1/7/10
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Masa wrote:
> east of north
>
>
> Is this the same as "north east"?
>
> I think we rarely see such a way of expression as EAST OF NORTH in
> english writings
> these days, while I have come across one in a book written old times.

North-east means 45 degrees east of north. East of north on its own
would mean some unspecifed angle east of north.

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Leslie Danks

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:43:07 AM1/7/10
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James Hogg wrote:

I'm not so sure. A total of 32 compass points have names [1]. The one
directly east of North (half-way between North and North North East) is
called North by East. "East of North" might mean some direction between
North and North by East (i.e. between North and the next recognised point
of the compass), or it might mean some direction between North and East
(i.e. between North and the next point of the compass of equal status).

[1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm>

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Don Phillipson

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:31:01 AM1/7/10
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"John Holmes" <see...@instead.com> wrote in message
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> North-east means 45 degrees east of north. East of north on its own
> would mean some unspecifed angle east of north.

Yes, correct (if the OP transcribed correctly "east of north.")
Wiki lists the mariners' 32 named points of the compass at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_the_compass viz.
north
north by east
north northeast
northeast by north
etc.
but "east of north" is undefined thus imprecise.

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(Ottawa, Canada)


bert

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:01:52 AM1/7/10
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It means somewhere eastwards of North. But if
it was any further eastward than "North-East",
it would be better described as "north of east".
So it's just a loose descriptive phrase for a
direction between North and North-East.
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John Dean

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:58:55 AM1/7/10
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Or may be a misprint or misunderstanding for East by North.

>
> [1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm>


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Chuck Riggs

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:28:46 AM1/7/10
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:56:44 +0100, James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com>
wrote:

I agree.
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James Silverton

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:50:09 AM1/7/10
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>> [1] <http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/angles.htm>

I suspect you could be right on "East by North" being a misprint. The 32
named compass points are surely sufficient for the average boater and
anyone needing greater precision would probably use degrees; "Steer red
160" or something like that.

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Evan Kirshenbaum

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:27:18 PM1/7/10
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bert <bert.hu...@btinternet.com> writes:

Unless the context makes it more specific, e.g., "three degrees east
of north". What was the context?

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Fred

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Jan 7, 2010, 3:57:41 PM1/7/10
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"Masa" <aut...@infoseek.jp> wrote in message
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North east is north of east, which is not east of north.


Fred

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Jan 7, 2010, 4:02:53 PM1/7/10
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"Evan Kirshenbaum" <kirsh...@hpl.hp.com> wrote in message
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> bert <bert.hu...@btinternet.com> writes:
>
>> On 7 Jan, 09:07, Masa <aut...@infoseek.jp> wrote:
>>> east of north
>>>
>>> Is this the same as "north east"?
>>>
>>> I think we rarely see such a way of expression as EAST OF NORTH in
>>> english writings these days, while I have come across one in a book
>>> written old times.
>>>
>>> And I don't find this way of phrase in dictionaries even for an
>>> example sentence as I searched.
>>
>> It means somewhere eastwards of North. But if it was any further
>> eastward than "North-East", it would be better described as "north
>> of east". So it's just a loose descriptive phrase for a direction
>> between North and North-East.


No it's not. It's s loose description for somewhere - anywhere - between
North and East.


franzi

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:48:39 PM1/7/10
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I bet it is. Take a look.
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Fred

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Jan 7, 2010, 6:06:13 PM1/7/10
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Oops! You're right of course. I'll crawl back under my rock.


Robert Bannister

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:48:09 PM1/7/10
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More: "North - right hand down a bit".

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Robert Bannister

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:49:33 PM1/7/10
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But beware "East of Java".

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R H Draney

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Jan 7, 2010, 11:54:43 PM1/7/10
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Robert Bannister filted:

>
>Fred wrote:
>>
>> North east is north of east, which is not east of north.
>
>But beware "East of Java".

And the Jubjub bird....r


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Roland Hutchinson

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Jan 12, 2010, 11:06:17 PM1/12/10
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:54:43 -0800, R H Draney wrote:

> Robert Bannister filted:
>>
>>Fred wrote:
>>>
>>> North east is north of east, which is not east of north.
>>
>>But beware "East of Java".
>
> And the Jubjub bird....r

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