"Ya Bent Bastard!"

[Mack A. Damia]

Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).

I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?

*Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
'highly violent and adult nature'."

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-line-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8422599.html

Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
what a "twat" is.

I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?

[RH Draney]

On 7/3/2017 1:37 PM, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
> what a "twat" is.
>
> I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?

No, and the vowel is different too....r

[Tony Cooper]

Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
be along shortly. I'm not.

We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
to "asshole" as a general reference.

I have never heard "twat" used to describe a female in general by an
American, but it may be something that I just haven't come across.

I haven't managed to find "Line of Duty" available to me, but "bent" -
to mean corrupt or "takes bribes" - is commonly seen in British
novels.




--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

[Reinhold {Rey} Aman]

"Mack A. Damia" wrote:
>
[bent bastard]
>
"Bent" in BrE also means "homosexual" (adj.).

Thus, PeteY Daniels is a genuine "bent bastard."

See the bent bastard:
http://aman.members.sonic.net/PeteY-Doody.jpg

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:13:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:37:50 -0700, Mack A. Damia
><drstee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>
>>I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?
>>
>>*Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
>>'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
>>who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
>>sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
>>'highly violent and adult nature'."
>>
>>http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-line-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8422599.html
>>
>>Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>>what a "twat" is.
>>
>>I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?
>
>Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
>word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
>the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
>be along shortly. I'm not.

In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.

>
>We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
>use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
>to "asshole" as a general reference.

Yes:
http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/t.htm

twat Noun. 1. The female genitals. [1600s]
2. A contemptible person, an idiot.
Verb. To hit, to thump. E.g. "I twatted him before he
had chance to twat me."

twat face Noun. A contemptible person.

twatfaced Adj. Intoxicated with alcohol or drugs.

twatted Adj. Very intoxicated due to alcohol or drugs.

twatting Adj./Adv. A general intensifier. E.g."You wouldn't
twatting believe the colour of her car, it's pink and it
matches her hair."

>
>I have never heard "twat" used to describe a female in general by an
>American, but it may be something that I just haven't come across.
>
>I haven't managed to find "Line of Duty" available to me, but "bent" -
>to mean corrupt or "takes bribes" - is commonly seen in British
>novels.

--

Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[Jack Campin]

> http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/t.htm
>
> twat Noun. 1. The female genitals. [1600s]
> 2. A contemptible person, an idiot.
> Verb. To hit, to thump. E.g. "I twatted him before he
> had chance to twat me."
>
> twat face Noun. A contemptible person.
>
> twatfaced Adj. Intoxicated with alcohol or drugs.
>
> twatted Adj. Very intoxicated due to alcohol or drugs.
>
> twatting Adj./Adv. A general intensifier. E.g."You wouldn't
> twatting believe the colour of her car, it's pink and it
> matches her hair."

For more of that kind of thing, try the Periodic Table of Swearing:

http://ptos.moderntoss.com/

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[CDB]

I noticed Harvey accusing another poster of "twatery" the other day*,
and I thought I would have doubled the second "t", particularly because
he was probably thinking of the [tw&t] version.

*I had been taking some time off to consider a message of his about a
reduction of this group's former amenity, and to consider my possible
role in that; it made me feel a bit less abashed.

[bill van]

In article <09cllchej6p6nj5rj...@4ax.com>,

Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I haven't managed to find "Line of Duty" available to me, but "bent" -
> to mean corrupt or "takes bribes" - is commonly seen in British
> novels.

That's how I understand it as well.

"Line of Duty" is on Netflix in Canada. Of all the British policiers
I've seen in recent years, I like it and Happy Valley best.
--
bill

[Tony Cooper]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 00:30:43 +0100, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
<ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 17:13:58 -0400, Tony Cooper
><tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:37:50 -0700, Mack A. Damia
>><drstee...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>>
>>>I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?
>>>
>>>*Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
>>>'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
>>>who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
>>>sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
>>>'highly violent and adult nature'."
>>>
>>>http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-line-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8422599.html
>>>
>>>Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>>>what a "twat" is.
>>>
>>>I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?
>>
>>Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
>>word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
>>the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
>>be along shortly. I'm not.
>
>In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.

In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 8:43:59 PM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:

> >In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>
> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.

Only for cot-caught mergerers.

[Peter Moylan]

On 04/07/17 06:37, Mack A. Damia wrote:

> Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
> what a "twat" is.

Something to do with a nun's dirty habit, isn't it?

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

[Harrison Hill]

In sixties BrE, when I were a teenager, "twat" rhymed
with "spot", "pot". Then it ceased to rhyme with anything,
and became a word you can really get your tongue around:

"You twwwaaatttTT"!

"Bent" as in "bent cop" and "bent" as in "homosexual" are
both obsolescent, in my BrE.

[Jack Campin]

>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.

I've spent most of my life pronouncing it so this rhymes:

There one was a lady called Dot
Who subsisted on pigshit and snot.
When she couldn't get these
She lived on the cheese
She scraped from the sides of her twat.

[Lewis]

In message <09cllchej6p6nj5rj...@4ax.com> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 13:37:50 -0700, Mack A. Damia
> <drstee...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>>Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>
>>I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?
>>
>>*Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
>>'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
>>who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
>>sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
>>'highly violent and adult nature'."
>>
>>http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-line-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8422599.html
>>
>>Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>>what a "twat" is.
>>
>>I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?

> Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
> word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
> the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
> be along shortly. I'm not.

I've heard this, but they sound the same to me. Maybe the AmE has a more
ah sound (like bat or cat, the sterotypical flat american aaaaa sound,
but if so it is a subtle enough difference that I can't hear it.

For me, it's the rounded a in father and not the flat a in Matt.

twät in IPA (but the BrE is twat and I still don't know what the
difference is between those two vowels).

> We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
> use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
> to "asshole" as a general reference.

It has a strong element of 'dumbass' to it as well.

> I haven't managed to find "Line of Duty" available to me, but "bent" -
> to mean corrupt or "takes bribes" - is commonly seen in British
> novels.

It seems like it was around in the US too, but that may just be seeing
too much BrE TV. It does seem a bit out-of-date now.

--
I thank my lucky stars I'm not superstitious.

[Lewis]

In message <bogus-1BBE55....@four.schnuerpel.eu> Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.

> I've spent most of my life pronouncing it so this rhymes:

> There one was a lady called Dot
> Who subsisted on pigshit and snot.
> When she couldn't get these
> She lived on the cheese
> She scraped from the sides of her twat.

That's not my pronunciation, but I can't think of another word ending in
t that would rhyme.

--
The whole thing that makes a mathematician’s life worthwhile is
that he gets the grudging admiration of three or four colleagues

[LFS]

An interesting use of amenity. And I don't think you should feel at all
abashed.

--
Laura (emulate St George for email)

[LFS]

You have excellent taste.

[LFS]

On 04/07/2017 06:14, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 04/07/17 06:37, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
>> Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>> what a "twat" is.
>
> Something to do with a nun's dirty habit, isn't it?
>

So Browning believed.

[the Omrud]

On 03/07/2017 21:37, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>
> I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?

Bent can also be applied to inanimate objects. Hence the one-time term
used to describe a flamboyant homosexual, which mixes both the meanings
of bent:

- He's as bent as a nine-bob note.

Nine bob is nine shillings. There was a ten-bob note (bill) but
obviously there was no nine-bob note, so it's a forgery and hence bent.

--
David

[Mack A. Damia]

It came across in the English subtitle as TWAT.

Subtitles make it easier for Alma to understand the dialogue, too.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2017 15:07:15 -0700, Reinhold {Rey} Aman
<am...@sonic.net> wrote:

>"Mack A. Damia" wrote:
>>
>[bent bastard]
>>
>"Bent" in BrE also means "homosexual" (adj.).

Yes, I did see that definition. DCI Gates was not gay, hence my
confusion and question.

[Peter T. Daniels]

"Queer as a three-dollar bill." No 'forgery' overtone.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 3:36:23 AM UTC-4, Lewis wrote:
> In message <bogus-1BBE55....@four.schnuerpel.eu> Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >Tony Cooper:
> >>PWD:

> >>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.

(correct)

> >> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.

(only for cot-caught mergerers; the merged sound is that of "cot")

> > I've spent most of my life pronouncing it so this rhymes:
>
> > There one was a lady called Dot
> > Who subsisted on pigshit and snot.
> > When she couldn't get these
> > She lived on the cheese
> > She scraped from the sides of her twat.

(the rhymes work in AmE, even though the vowel is different)

> That's not my pronunciation, but I can't think of another word ending in
> t that would rhyme.

NB: No hint of what Lewis's pronunciation actually is.

[And from the previous message (quoting Cooper)]:

>> Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
>> word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
>> the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
>> be along shortly. I'm not.

> I've heard this, but they sound the same to me. Maybe the AmE has a more
> ah sound (like bat or cat,

Normally, "ah" is respelling for the vowel in FATHER, not for the voweel in BAT,
so that assertion is uninterpretable.

> the sterotypical flat american aaaaa sound,

If BAT (the "stereotypical flat american aaaaa sound"_sounds like FATHER, then there's
some serious mispronunciaion going on.

> but if so it is a subtle enough difference that I can't hear it.

Can't distinguish "pot" and "pat"?

> For me, it's the rounded a in father and not the flat a in Matt.

The "a in father" is not rounded.

> twät in IPA (but the BrE is twat and I still don't know what the
> difference is between those two vowels).

IPA does not use umlauts. In one common dictionary respelling, a-umlaut marks
the FATHER vowel. IPA for that vowel is [a] or [alpha].

BrE "twat" uses IPA [&], the "stereotypical flat american aaaaa sound."

[Jerry Friedman]

On 7/3/17 11:58 PM, Jack Campin wrote:
>>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.
>
> I've spent most of my life pronouncing it so this rhymes:
>
> There one was a lady called Dot
> Who subsisted on pigshit and snot.
> When she couldn't get these
> She lived on the cheese
> She scraped from the sides of her twat.

That's how I pronounce it. I've heard that one with "piss, shit, and
snot" and "That grew on the sides", which is more disgusting.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Jerry Friedman]

On 7/3/17 3:13 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
[twat]

> We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
> use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
> to "asshole" as a general reference.
>
> I have never heard "twat" used to describe a female in general by an
> American, but it may be something that I just haven't come across.

...

I've heard it once or twice.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Percival P. Cassidy]

On 07/03/2017 07:30 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:

>>> Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>>
>>> I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?
>>>
>>> *Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
>>> 'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
>>> who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
>>> sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
>>> 'highly violent and adult nature'."
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-line-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8422599.html
>>>
>>> Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>>> what a "twat" is.
>>>
>>> I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?
>>
>> Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
>> word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
>> the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
>> be along shortly. I'm not.
>
> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.

It didn't in the 1950s or early 1960s: it rhymed with "cot," "pot," and
"lot." And on one occasion when I used it in Australia in the mid 1960s
with that pronunciation -- a slip of the tongue for "twit" -- it was
recognized and understood.

Perce

[CDB]

On 7/4/2017 9:07 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> the Omrud wrote:
>> Mack A. Damia wrote:

>>> Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>> I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked
>>> cop?

>> Bent can also be applied to inanimate objects. Hence the one-time
>> term used to describe a flamboyant homosexual, which mixes both the
>> meanings of bent:

>> - He's as bent as a nine-bob note.

>> Nine bob is nine shillings. There was a ten-bob note (bill) but
>> obviously there was no nine-bob note, so it's a forgery and hence
>> bent.

> "Queer as a three-dollar bill." No 'forgery' overtone.

Not in yourE at least? A look at the American dictionaries in OneLook
will dispell the myth in any general sense.

There is a new list of hard-boiled slang terms in the lineup, "Twists,
Slugs, and Roscoes", that might interest the group. I didn't know that
"keister/keyster" made a link between the buttocks and a strongbox (The
OEtymD adds that the route may have been through "kist" (or German
"Kiste"), used as a reference to the back pocket).

I suppose "keyster" is folked etymology.

https://www.miskatonic.org/slang.html

[musika]

On 04/07/2017 15:56, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> On 07/03/2017 07:30 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>
> It didn't in the 1950s or early 1960s:

Oh, it did. Perhaps not where you lived, though.

> it rhymed with "cot," "pot,"
> and "lot." And on one occasion when I used it in Australia in the mid
> 1960s with that pronunciation -- a slip of the tongue for "twit" --
> it was recognized and understood.
>

--
Ray
UK

[Mack A. Damia]

It is a silly word. If you really want to insult a woman, "cunt" is
preferred. The word, "cunt", isn't silly.

[Mack A. Damia]

There's a commercial that presently airs frequently:

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/AGVy/preparation-h-welcome-to-kiester

[Harrison Hill]

...and is in Shakespeare - albeit spelt slightly differently.
Anyone care to show off their literary knowledge by remembering
where "cunt" is spelt out in Shakespeare? And not just "...in so
many words"?

The more cunningly (oops!) that you can show that you know it,
without giving the game away, the more kudos to you :)

[Percival P. Cassidy]

I don't remember it from Shakespeare (we read the expurgated "for
schools" editions in school), but ISTR that in Chaucer it was "queynte",
or something like that. Was that Shakespeare's spelling as well?

Perce

[Mack A. Damia]

"By my life, this is my lady’s hand. These be her very c’s, her u’s,
and her t’s, and thus makes she her great P’s. It is in contempt of
question her hand." Twelfth Night Act 2, Scene 5.

[Paul Wolff]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017, Percival P. Cassidy <Nob...@NotMyISP.net> posted:

>On 07/03/2017 07:30 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>
>>>> Term used to insult DCI Tony Gates in "Line of Duty" (Series 1).
>>>>
>>>> I assume that he (the boy* and another) is calling him a crooked cop?
>>>>
>>>> *Child actor Gregory Piper - "Failure in Line of Duty: BBC guilty of
>>>> 'serious lapse' in care of 13-year-old actor. Actor Gregory Piper,
>>>> who plays Ryan Pilkington in police drama Line of Duty, was not
>>>> sufficiently protected from emotional distress during filming of a
>>>> 'highly violent and adult nature'."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/failure-in-li
>>>>ne-of-duty-bbc-guilty-of-serious-lapse-in-care-of-13-year-old-actor-8
>>>>
>>>>

>>>> Also, the wife wanted to know a few minutes ago while we were watching
>>>> what a "twat" is.
>>>>
>>>> I know the American meaning. Is the British meaning the same?
>>>
>>> Watching "The Inbetweeners" or "The IT Crowd" will expose you to the
>>> word "twat" repeatedly. However, it is pronounced differently than
>>> the American word. Someone qualified to write words as they sound may
>>> be along shortly. I'm not.
>>
>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>
>It didn't in the 1950s or early 1960s: it rhymed with "cot," "pot," and
>"lot." And on one occasion when I used it in Australia in the mid 1960s
>with that pronunciation -- a slip of the tongue for "twit" -- it was
>recognized and understood.
>

There's a romantic ballad (In the shade of the old apple tree) disguised
as a bawdy song that was current in the 1960s, down Prospect of Whitby
way and elsewhere (rugby clubs and other young men's groups), in which
'twat' is rhymed with 'spot'.

In line three of the chorus.

Don't ask me how I know - I just do.
--
Paul

[Harrison Hill]

Nope. It is spelt out in one of his best plays. I doubt that
Bowdler would have spotted it :) The other function the c-word
has, related to the "pee", is also spelt out :)

[Harrison Hill]

Well done Malvolio :( You could easily have shown that
you knew the answer, without giving the answer away. Whatever
happened to subtlety?

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 11:34:49 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 7/4/2017 9:07 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > the Omrud wrote:

> >> Bent can also be applied to inanimate objects. Hence the one-time
> >> term used to describe a flamboyant homosexual, which mixes both the
> >> meanings of bent:
> >> - He's as bent as a nine-bob note.
> >> Nine bob is nine shillings. There was a ten-bob note (bill) but
> >> obviously there was no nine-bob note, so it's a forgery and hence
> >> bent.
> > "Queer as a three-dollar bill." No 'forgery' overtone.
>
> Not in yourE at least? A look at the American dictionaries in OneLook
> will dispell the myth in any general sense.

Hunh? Everyone knows there's no such thing as a three-dollar bill, so no
counterfeiter would be so foolish as to forge one.

Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Hamlet lays his head in Ophelia's lap and says "these be country matters."

[Harrison Hill]

Good call! I walked past Ophelia's official Pre-Raphaelite
resting place yesterday; and it is a lovely spot.

<http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/11/article-2201480-14F0B3D8000005DC-897_634x344.jpg>

[Richard Yates]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 14:24:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
<Nob...@NotMyISP.net> wrote:

HAMLET: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
OPHELIA: No, my lord.
HAMLET: I mean, my head upon your lap?
OPHELIA: Ay, my lord.
HAMLET: Do you think I meant country matters?

[Harrison Hill]

PTD beat you to that, and Malvolio blurted out the other
answer :(

[Mack A. Damia]

<*BELCH*>

[Joseph C. Fineman]

Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> writes:

>>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.

>> In AmE, "twat" rhymes with ought, caught, fought, bought, etc.
>
> I've spent most of my life pronouncing it so this rhymes:
>
> There one was a lady called Dot
> Who subsisted on pigshit and snot.
> When she couldn't get these
> She lived on the cheese
> She scraped from the sides of her twat.

Or, perhaps worse,

There was once a young fellow named Watt,
Who got a girl out on his yacht.
Too lazy to rape her,
He made airplanes of paper,
Which he languidly tossed at her twat.
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: Celebrity is the advantage of being known by those who do :||
||: not know you. :||

[Joseph C. Fineman]

"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:

> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.

Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
for many years.

--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: Celebrity is the chastisement of merit and the punishment :||
||: of talent. :||

[Tony Cooper]

In the US, "cunt" may be used to describe a female, but I've never
seen/heard it used to describe a male. In the UK, it seems to be used
to describe either a male or a female.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

[Tony Cooper]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 17:38:37 -0400, jo...@verizon.net (Joseph C.
Fineman) wrote:

>"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
>
>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>
>Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
>for many years.

The last time I saw $2 bills in circulation was when some organization
wanted to show how much they affected the local economy, so they had
members pay for purchases in $2 bills whenever possible. It was a
publicity stunt. The bills then were given back in change by the
businesses that received them.

It must not have worked all that well because I can't, for the life of
me, remember the organization.

[Lewis]

In BrE, cunt is more frequently applied to men than women.



--
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici

[Lewis]

Rendered unreadable by a non-compliant new agent.


--
BILL: I can't get behind the Gods, who are more vengeful, angry, an
dangerous if you don't believe in them!
HENRY: Why can't all these God just get along? I mean, they're
omnipotent and omnipresent, what's the problem?

[Lewis]

I've used it several times to describe Paul Ryan.


--
Hey, baby, I've got just the cure for that penis envy back at my
apartment...

[Robert Bannister]

On 4/7/17 11:39 pm, musika wrote:
> On 04/07/2017 15:56, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>> On 07/03/2017 07:30 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>>
>> It didn't in the 1950s or early 1960s:
>
> Oh, it did. Perhaps not where you lived, though.

Certainly did not where I lived (western Essex and London area) - you
can see in my sig when I left. I understood twat-rhymes-with-cat to be a
recent invention to mean "idiot" and nowhere near as strong "stupid
cunt". The cunt word is still pronounced "twot" as far as I know.

--
Robert B. born England 1940;
Western Australia since 1972

[Robert Bannister]

Blowed if I remember, but I think it was round about Shakespeare's time
when "bunny" replaced "coney", which was pronounced the same as "cunny",
meaning it was becoming difficult for polite people to talk about rabbits.

--
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

[Robert Bannister]

I would think that would apply here too.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:38:39 PM UTC-4, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:

> > Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>
> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
> for many years.

Wow! The last time I went to Monticello (for the sesquibicentennial when they tried to
gather as many of the original furnishings as owners and museums could be persuaded to
part with for many months), in 1993, admission was $10. Anyone foolish enough to
pay with exact change didn't get a crisp new two in return.

Some time later, driving from New York to Chicago, I stopped for gas just over the
Ohio line and when I went in to pay, the cashier was refusing to accept a two from
the customer ahead of me. I gladly purchased it for $2. I then had two twos that
could be framed as the nucleus of a Jefferson shrine.

Supposedly twos went out of fashion because (a) they were the price of a whore
and (b) they were the price of a bet at the track, and bettors would tear off a
corner for luck, so they didn't last very long in circulation.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:40:22 PM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:

> In the US, "cunt" may be used to describe a female, but I've never
> seen/heard it used to describe a male. In the UK, it seems to be used
> to describe either a male or a female.

The only memorable line in *The Boys in the Band* is "Sunt! That's French, with a cedilla."

[Percival P. Cassidy]

On 07/04/2017 11:11 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

>>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>>
>> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
>> for many years.
>
> Wow! The last time I went to Monticello (for the sesquibicentennial when they tried to
> gather as many of the original furnishings as owners and museums could be persuaded to
> part with for many months), in 1993, admission was $10. Anyone foolish enough to
> pay with exact change didn't get a crisp new two in return.
>
> Some time later, driving from New York to Chicago, I stopped for gas just over the
> Ohio line and when I went in to pay, the cashier was refusing to accept a two from
> the customer ahead of me. I gladly purchased it for $2. I then had two twos that
> could be framed as the nucleus of a Jefferson shrine.
>
> Supposedly twos went out of fashion because (a) they were the price of a whore
> and (b) they were the price of a bet at the track, and bettors would tear off a
> corner for luck, so they didn't last very long in circulation.

We had a couple of $2 bills in the church collection box recently. The
first I'd seen in three decades or more.

Perce

[Peter T. Daniels]

Maybe someone is starting up a "lose the ones" campaign. But that means they'll have
to somehow get Sackies or Susie B.'s into circulation. I wouldn't like it if TJ's
portrait is replaced with Sally Hemming's.

[Peter Moylan]

On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
>
>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>
> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
> for many years.

$100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
impression that their primary use is in drug deals.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

[Cheryl]

On 2017-07-05 2:48 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>>
>> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
>> for many years.
>
> $100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
> impression that their primary use is in drug deals.
>

Drug dealers must get them somewhere.

I've always had a vague idea that Americans might routinely use $100
bills, but that might be because local stores sometimes have signs up
saying they won't accept US $100 bills at all. I think that's due to
concerns about forgeries. Some Canadian stores, particularly in areas
where there might be American tourists, will accept US bills, although I
suspect the exchange rate may not always be the best. I once saw an
American tourist throw a hissy fit with a cashier because she didn't get
her change back in "real money", but I don't know if that was because
she didn't like the exchange rate or because she didn't realize she was
in a foreign country.

I almost never have or use a bill larger than $20, that being what the
automatic cash machines produce. I have very rarely accepted a larger
bill when taking several hundred out from an actual bank, and
immediately try to get it changed by buying something from a business
that uses a lot of cash, like a supermarket, for fear I'll have nothing
but a $50 or a $100 when I want to buy a $2 item at a convenience store.
Drug dealers must not have this problem.

--
Cheryl

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 5:05:33 AM UTC-4, Cheryl P wrote:
> On 2017-07-05 2:48 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
> >>
> >>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
> >>
> >> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
> >> for many years.
> >
> > $100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
> > impression that their primary use is in drug deals.
> >
>
> Drug dealers must get them somewhere.
>
> I've always had a vague idea that Americans might routinely use $100
> bills, but that might be because local stores sometimes have signs up
> saying they won't accept US $100 bills at all. I think that's due to
> concerns about forgeries.

A lot of stores Down Here won't accepy anything larger than a twenty. One very
legitimate reason is that giving change for a small purchase with a large bill is
likely to clean out the till so that the next customers can't be served. The ban
on hundreds was originally because there were so many counterfeit hundreds because
the were, probably still are, the favored medium for cash transactions throughout
the world.

> Some Canadian stores, particularly in areas
> where there might be American tourists, will accept US bills, although I
> suspect the exchange rate may not always be the best. I once saw an
> American tourist throw a hissy fit with a cashier because she didn't get
> her change back in "real money", but I don't know if that was because
> she didn't like the exchange rate or because she didn't realize she was
> in a foreign country.

Definitely the latter. Remember, the only multicolored money we ever saw (until
recently, when the paper is lightly tinted, but you don't really notice unless you
have different denominations side by side) was Monopoly money.

> I almost never have or use a bill larger than $20, that being what the
> automatic cash machines produce. I have very rarely accepted a larger
> bill when taking several hundred out from an actual bank, and
> immediately try to get it changed by buying something from a business
> that uses a lot of cash, like a supermarket, for fear I'll have nothing
> but a $50 or a $100 when I want to buy a $2 item at a convenience store.
> Drug dealers must not have this problem.

It was disturbing that ATMs in Germany only gave E50 notes. Why would I need that
much money for a few days?

[the Omrud]

On 04/07/2017 22:40, Tony Cooper wrote:

> In the US, "cunt" may be used to describe a female, but I've never
> seen/heard it used to describe a male. In the UK, it seems to be used
> to describe either a male or a female.

How are you getting on with Detectorists? The sentence "Because he's a
cunt" is uttered to devastating effect in about episode four or five.

If you don't "get" Detectorists, then you're not yet understanding the
English.

--
David

[the Omrud]

On 05/07/2017 10:05, Cheryl wrote:

> I've always had a vague idea that Americans might routinely use $100
> bills, but that might be because local stores sometimes have signs up
> saying they won't accept US $100 bills at all. I think that's due to
> concerns about forgeries. Some Canadian stores, particularly in areas
> where there might be American tourists, will accept US bills, although I
> suspect the exchange rate may not always be the best. I once saw an
> American tourist throw a hissy fit with a cashier because she didn't get
> her change back in "real money", but I don't know if that was because
> she didn't like the exchange rate or because she didn't realize she was
> in a foreign country.
>
> I almost never have or use a bill larger than $20, that being what the
> automatic cash machines produce. I have very rarely accepted a larger
> bill when taking several hundred out from an actual bank, and
> immediately try to get it changed by buying something from a business
> that uses a lot of cash, like a supermarket, for fear I'll have nothing
> but a $50 or a $100 when I want to buy a $2 item at a convenience store.
> Drug dealers must not have this problem.

Some shops in France, and probably elswhere in the civilised parts of
the EU, won't take €500 Euro notes. Also, presumably, because of
concerns about forgeries.

--
David

[HVS]

On 05 Jul 2017, the Omrud wrote

The ECB announced about a year ago that they were going to stop issuing
EUR500 notes around the end of 2018, but it was due to illicit use
(presumably drugs and money-laundering) rather than forgeries.

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2016/html/pr160504.en.html

--
Cheers, Harvey
CanEng (30yrs) and BrEng (34yrs), indiscriminately mixed

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Yes. Those seem to be the main reasons. We received several 100€ notes
when we changed some money in Chile in February, and I was worried that
we might have problems using them, but no one has raised an eyebrow.

--
athel

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2017-07-04 17:39:00 +0200, musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> said:

> On 04/07/2017 15:56, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
>> On 07/03/2017 07:30 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
>>> In BrE, "twat" rhymes with hat, that, cat, sat, mat, etc.
>>
>> It didn't in the 1950s or early 1960s:
>
> Oh, it did. Perhaps not where you lived, though.

It did where I lived too, though I heard it very rarely, in sentences
like "He's a silly twat". At that time I had no idea it had any
anatomical meaning, and took it to be a ruder variant of "twit".
>
>> it rhymed with "cot," "pot,"
>> and "lot." And on one occasion when I used it in Australia in the mid
>> 1960s with that pronunciation -- a slip of the tongue for "twit" --
>> it was recognized and understood.


--
athel

[Tony Cooper]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:59:20 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I have been watching the show...all of Season 1. The fleeces have
been delivered and the real dogs have appeared.

I find it interesting and entertaining, but not particularly gripping.
For some reason, I find it most amusing when the scene is a club
meeting. There's something about 7 people scattered in that large
room watching a presentation on pull-tabs and showing their meager
findings at the table that I find perfectly descriptive about a
certain type of hobbyist.

This is not my first rodeo in Britshows and Britbooks, so I wouldn't
have noticed the "cunt" usage if I have seen it. I only notice things
like that when they have been discussed here and I hear them the next
night or so. Otherwise, it's read/seen enough that it doesn't get my
attention anymore.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2017-07-04 20:24:39 +0200, "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nob...@NotMyISP.net> said:

> On 07/04/2017 01:54 PM, Harrison Hill wrote:

>> On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:21:01 UTC+1, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 07:59:26 -0600, Jerry Friedman
>>> <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/3/17 3:13 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> [twat]
>>>>
>>>>> We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
>>>>> use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
>>>>> to "asshole" as a general reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never heard "twat" used to describe a female in general by an
>>>>> American, but it may be something that I just haven't come across.
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I've heard it once or twice.
>>>
>>> It is a silly word. If you really want to insult a woman, "cunt" is
>>> preferred. The word, "cunt", isn't silly.
>>

>> ...and is in Shakespeare - albeit spelt slightly differently.
>> Anyone care to show off their literary knowledge by remembering
>> where "cunt" is spelt out in Shakespeare? And not just "...in so
>> many words"?
>>
>> The more cunningly (oops!) that you can show that you know it,

>> without giving the game away, the more kudos to you :)
>
> I don't remember it from Shakespeare (we read the expurgated "for
> schools" editions in school), but ISTR that in Chaucer it was
> "queynte", or something like that. Was that Shakespeare's spelling as
> well?

The Miller's Tale has two consecutive lines ending in "queynte", with
(apparently) different meanings, the second the one we're discussing,
the first as a spelling of "quaint":

> As clerkes ben ful subtile and ful queynte;
> And prively he caughte hire by the queynte,

A Donald Trump before the hour!

I didn't think words were allowed to rhyme with themselves, even with
different meanings, but maybe Chaucer wasn't bothered about that.

--
athel

[Charles Bishop]

In article <es3oen...@mid.individual.net>, Cheryl <cper...@mun.ca>
wrote:

When I get cash from my bank, I usually get it in $100 bills. It makes
it easier to fit in my wallet. Most everywhere will accept a $100 bill
now, subject to the amount of change they would have to give back. Most
of the larger supermarkets are able to give back change for a $10
purchase and it's one way to break a large bill. Stores' cashiers will
test a bill using a marking pen made for this purpose. I've been told
that the pen detects "starch" which would be on bills made from copier
paper, but not on real bills.

Working as a contractor and having to pay workers or subs back in the
day made this a habit, though there is rarely a need to take out large
amounts of cash. I am coming around to using a credit card for much of
what I buy, mostly because of the cash back the cc offers.

--
charles

[Charles Bishop]

In article <es347v...@mid.individual.net>,

"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nob...@NotMyISP.net> wrote:

I got one in change last week when buying fruit at a farmers' market.
I've since passed it along.

There was at one time a site called "Where's George?" It helps you track
your $1 bills. You record the serial numbers on the site and spend the
bills. Others who belong also do the same and every so often, two people
record the same SN, showing how much the bill has traveled.

--
charles

[Tony Cooper]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 06:35:49 -0230, Cheryl <cper...@mun.ca> wrote:

>On 2017-07-05 2:48 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
>>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>>>
>>> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
>>> for many years.
>>
>> $100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
>> impression that their primary use is in drug deals.
>>
>
>Drug dealers must get them somewhere.
>
>I've always had a vague idea that Americans might routinely use $100
>bills, but that might be because local stores sometimes have signs up
>saying they won't accept US $100 bills at all.

Both $100 and $50 bills are in the teller's till where I bank. On the
few occasions where I've had to pay someone in cash in an amount over
$100, the teller provided them from her drawer.

[the Omrud]

On 05/07/2017 14:41, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:59:20 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/07/2017 22:40, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> In the US, "cunt" may be used to describe a female, but I've never
>>> seen/heard it used to describe a male. In the UK, it seems to be used
>>> to describe either a male or a female.
>>
>> How are you getting on with Detectorists? The sentence "Because he's a
>> cunt" is uttered to devastating effect in about episode four or five.
>>
>> If you don't "get" Detectorists, then you're not yet understanding the
>> English.
>
> I have been watching the show...all of Season 1. The fleeces have
> been delivered and the real dogs have appeared.
>
> I find it interesting and entertaining, but not particularly gripping.
> For some reason, I find it most amusing when the scene is a club
> meeting. There's something about 7 people scattered in that large
> room watching a presentation on pull-tabs and showing their meager
> findings at the table that I find perfectly descriptive about a
> certain type of hobbyist.

Fair enough. I'm glad you kept watching, anyway.

--
David

[Harrison Hill]

In London, £20 and £10 only; with a very occasional £5.
£50 is the largest note issued in Britain.

[Tony Cooper]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:59:20 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm not sure that the characterizations of the people in "The
Detectorists" exemplifies their Englishness. I see it as portraying a
group of hobbyists to whom everything except the hobby is secondary.
And - typical of certain hobbyists in this country - always hoping for
the "big find".

[Janet]

In article <883cc95e-831c-45e9...@googlegroups.com>,
harrison...@gmail.com says...

You mean, "in England and Wales".

Scottish and Irish banks issue £100 notes.

Janet

[David Kleinecke]

When I was prepared to pay a $4500 moving charge in cash the
bank gave it to me in $100 bills.

No, I don't care whether the moving company was playing games
with the IRS - they were very good movers.

[Tony Cooper]

Some moving companies, and most private tow lots (impound facilities),
require cash. They don't want to let you dispute the credit card
charge or stop payment on the check. Private sales of merchandise
(yard sales, Craigslist, etc) also may require cash payment.

The last time I had to pay cash over $100 was for a camera lens
purchased from a private party who had advertised in on Craigslist.
The time before that was a "little man" who did some re-screening of
my pool.

[David Kleinecke]

They would have accepted a check (didn't ask about a credit card)
but they gave me a 5% discount for cash.

[Harrison Hill]

Which won't be accepted anywhere south of Blackpool xx

[Percival P. Cassidy]

Not long ago I read that an increasing number of businesses in Sweden
have signs saying "No cash accepted" (or its equivalent in Swedish, I
assume): they are going totally electronic.

Perce

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I can believe that. Not long after the euro was introduced I was at a
committee meeting in Leuven at which one of the other participants was
a Swedish Finn. As my dughter at that time was interested in having
euro coins from as many euro countries, I asked him I could exchange
some French euro coins for Finnish ones. He said he had very few in his
pocket, as coins were hardly used in Finland any more -- he managed to
find about 50 centimes in small change. This must have been in about
2003.


--
athel

[bill van]

In article <es50ii...@mid.individual.net>,

I think it depends on a nation's laws regarding "legal tender", and
whether merchants must accept any form of legal tender in payment. I
don't know what Swedish law says, but as of three years ago, 80 per
cent of all transactions in Sweden did not involve cash. So if anyone
is going cashless, it is likely to be the Swedes.

<https://www.thelocal.se/20141012/sweden-close-to-being-cashless-societ
y-report>
--
bill

[Robert Bannister]

On 5/7/17 1:18 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
>>
>> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
>> for many years.
>
> $100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
> impression that their primary use is in drug deals.
>

I get one quite regularly as I mainly draw cash out at the supermarket
check-out. They barely last longer than a $50 note.

--
Robert B. born England a long time ago;
Western Australia since 1972

[Robert Bannister]

I remember when $20 started buying what $10 bought what seemed only a
few year earlier. For a long time now, $50 is needed to buy what I think
of as $20 worth of goods. Forgers rarely try to make $100 notes because
they aren't used as often, but fifties are so common it's easier for
them to pass off even quite bad forgeries. What puzzles me is why
Americans are still using notes for amounts as small as one dollar.

[Robert Bannister]

Can you buy a meal with €50 in Germany? I know Germany used to be cheap,
but I didn't think it was any more.

[Robert Bannister]

Which is close enough to $100.

[Robert Bannister]

I think only very old people still use cheques in this country.

--
Robert B.
"Old" is anyone who is 10 or more years older than your current age.

[bill van]

In article <es5jlc...@mid.individual.net>,

The moderately old still use cheques in this country, though less
frequently than in the past.
--
bill

[bill van]

In article <es5ith...@mid.individual.net>,

Robert Bannister <robertb...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:

> On 5/7/17 1:18 pm, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 05/07/17 07:38, Joseph C. Fineman wrote:
> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> writes:
> >>
> >>> Two-dollar bills exist but most Americans have never seen one.
> >>
> >> Astonishingly, I received one in change yesterday. I had not seen one
> >> for many years.
> >
> > $100 notes exist in Australia, but I've never seen one. I have the
> > impression that their primary use is in drug deals.
>
> I get one quite regularly as I mainly draw cash out at the supermarket
> check-out. They barely last longer than a $50 note.

I don't like to carry bills larger than $20. I shop at small
independent stores as much as possible, and they tend not to have much
change on hand. For larger purchases, I use a credit or debit card.
--
bill

[Mack A. Damia]

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:40:01 -0700, bill van <bil...@delete.shaw.ca>
wrote:

I can pay with U.S. dollars or Mexican pesos here, but many places
won't accept $100 bills or some place $50s, too.

I suppose it has to do with counterfeiting. If you're going to do it,
$100s or $50s are the bills of choice. Many places across the border
in the U.S. will not accept $100s, either, and it has been that way in
the USA as long as I can remember.

I think the Treasury will have to come out with another bill one of
these days, but what would it be?

[Percival P. Cassidy]

When I first came to the US ~40 years ago, many stores seemed to have
cash registers that would print the payee and amount on a customer's
check, leaving the customer only to sign it. Do these still exist? Check
transactions seem to take for ever for these days.

Perce

[Peter T. Daniels]

IIRC with one exception all meals were provided by the Bavarian Academy (or as
the excessively large B of the B&B). The one I paid for, which was some sort of
ethnic pork dish -- may have been ethnic Bavarian, but the restaurant people
weren't German -- was probably under E10, and a "Coke Lite" (that's what they
call Diet Coke) was about E2 for a can smaller than our 12 oz. cans.

In Cologne a few years earlier, lunch break was at the university cafeteria
(uninspiring to say the least), dinners were at ethnic restaurants near the
university (only one was a festive banquet for the conference), and on both
my sightseeing days downtown I had lunch at the McDonalds across from the Dom
because apparently McRibs aren't a rare specialty item there but available '
year-round.

And the extra day I had because my travel agent screwed up (so I had to pay for
one hotel night myself) I got lunch at the kebab stand across the street from
the train station in Mainz.

I saw, but didn't hear, Die Loreley. Twice. Didn't notice anything in Bonn that
might have been a capitol or parliament building.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 10:55:32 PM UTC-4, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

> When I first came to the US ~40 years ago, many stores seemed to have
> cash registers that would print the payee and amount on a customer's
> check, leaving the customer only to sign it. Do these still exist? Check
> transactions seem to take for ever for these days.

I first got a checking account in 1968, when I went off to college, and never saw that.

Even back then, checks were for (a) cashing or (b) paying bills, not for making
retail purchases.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

A meal for two? Maybe not, but a meal for one, certainly. I don't
remember how much my wife and I paid for lunch in Burghausen (just
inside Germany, on the Austrian border) a year ago, but I don't think
it was much more than 50€ in total.

> I know Germany used to be cheap, but I didn't think it was any more.


--

athel

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

In France they do. I often see people payng like that in the
supermarket. (I use a credit card, or occasionally cash, myself.)

> Check transactions seem to take for ever for these days.
>
> Perce

--
athel

[charles]

In article <3a456a32-ffe6-407c...@googlegroups.com>, Peter

In the UK, Marks & Spencer had such a printing facility, but it probably
went when they started taking credit cards. They were quite late into
accepting them, but nowadays have their own.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

[Cheryl]

I never saw or heard of such a thing, even in the days in which checks
were still common.

I write maybe one or two cheques a year, usually to some small
organization that isn't set up for it or a relative who's access to
email (needed for electronic transfers) is unreliable.


--
Cheryl

[Cheryl]

They were routinely used for retail purchases around here during that
era and probably before - groceries, clothing etc. They weren't used for
really small purchases, probably because of the cost. Nowadays, people
use their cards - or their phones - to buy a cup of coffee. The
cafeteria at work used to take only cash so as to speed up checkouts,
but the started accepting cards, and now that's probably the most
popular way to pay. A small volunteer-run gift & convenience store still
accepts no plastic at all, and doesn't carry much of a float, so they
really hate it if you go in with a big bill.

--
Cheryl

[the Omrud]

Some UK supermarkets have a similar facility.

--
David

[Harrison Hill]

£50 is $65 USD. £50 is the largest note issued by the Bank of
England; but I have never come across an ATM that dispenses
anything higher than £20.

[GordonD]

On 04/07/2017 21:43, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 12:45:26 -0700 (PDT), Harrison Hill
> <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 20:37:38 UTC+1, Richard Yates wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 14:24:39 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
>>> <Nob...@NotMyISP.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/04/2017 01:54 PM, Harrison Hill wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:21:01 UTC+1, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 07:59:26 -0600, Jerry Friedman
>>>>>> <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/3/17 3:13 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>>>> [twat]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We use it to describe a particular part of the female anatomy. They
>>>>>>>> use it to describe a person, and usually a male. Their use is similar
>>>>>>>> to "asshole" as a general reference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have never heard "twat" used to describe a female in general by an
>>>>>>>> American, but it may be something that I just haven't come across.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've heard it once or twice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a silly word. If you really want to insult a woman, "cunt" is
>>>>>> preferred. The word, "cunt", isn't silly.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and is in Shakespeare - albeit spelt slightly differently.
>>>>> Anyone care to show off their literary knowledge by remembering
>>>>> where "cunt" is spelt out in Shakespeare? And not just "...in so
>>>>> many words"?
>>>>>
>>>>> The more cunningly (oops!) that you can show that you know it,
>>>>> without giving the game away, the more kudos to you :)
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember it from Shakespeare (we read the expurgated "for
>>>> schools" editions in school), but ISTR that in Chaucer it was "queynte",
>>>> or something like that. Was that Shakespeare's spelling as well?
>>>
>>> HAMLET: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?
>>> OPHELIA: No, my lord.
>>> HAMLET: I mean, my head upon your lap?
>>> OPHELIA: Ay, my lord.
>>> HAMLET: Do you think I meant country matters?
>>
>> PTD beat you to that, and Malvolio blurted out the other
>> answer :(
>
> <*BELCH*>
>
>

Just turn the other Aguecheek.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

[GordonD]

On 05/07/2017 15:00, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2017-07-04 20:24:39 +0200, "Percival P. Cassidy"

> The Miller's Tale has two consecutive lines ending in "queynte", with
> (apparently) different meanings, the second the one we're discussing,
> the first as a spelling of "quaint":
>
>> As clerkes ben ful subtile and ful queynte;
>> And prively he caughte hire by the queynte,
>
> A Donald Trump before the hour!
>
> I didn't think words were allowed to rhyme with themselves, even with
> different meanings, but maybe Chaucer wasn't bothered about that.
>

Never stopped Edward Lear.