cover for 911 ?

[bruce bowser]

Which sentence is more correct?:

'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush Administration cover for 911'

- or -

'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush Administration a cover for 911'

cover
- or -
a cover
===============================
(full context)

Posted By: Cindy Piester Post Date: 07/06/09 11:09:00 AM
Title: 911 Confessions based on torture

My Fellow Americans, the 911 Commission Report was largely based on the confessions of
three men: Khalid Sheik Mohammed, Zubaydah, and Al Nasheri. The torture they underwent
yielded confessions that gave the Bush Administration cover for 911 and justification for
obliterating Iraq.
See: Dr. David Ray Griffin :9/11 Contradictions at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3319032398046778047
Also, this compelling leaked International Committee Red Cross Report on the torture they
and others received: http://www.nybooks.com/icrc-report.pdf

[Garrett Wollman]

In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,

bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Which sentence is more correct?:
>
>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
>Administration cover for 911'
>
> - or -
>
>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
>Administration a cover for 911'

They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of
"cover" is a non-count noun.

The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
"911" which is the emergency services telephone number.

-GAWollman

--
Garrett A. Wollman | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can,
wol...@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future. This is
Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
my employers. | - Graydon Saunders, _A Succession of Bad Days_ (2015)

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-4, Garrett Wollman wrote:
> In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Which sentence is more correct?:
> >
> >'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >Administration cover for 911'
> >
> > - or -
> >
> >'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >Administration a cover for 911'
>
> They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of
> "cover" is a non-count noun.
>
> The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
> "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.

Not to mention, the sentence is apparently wrong anyway: haven't
they been saying that no "actionable intelligence" was gotten from
anyone there? (Whatever "a cover for 9/11" might be supposed to
mean). Is the sentence from some conspiracy nut who still thinks
it was an inside job so they could invade Iraq and steal the oil?)

[Quinn C]

* Garrett Wollman:

> In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Which sentence is more correct?:
>>
>>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
>>Administration cover for 911'
>>
>> - or -
>>
>>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
>>Administration a cover for 911'
>
> They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of
> "cover" is a non-count noun.
>
> The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
> "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.

In connection with this year's 20th anniversary, I heard an old
recording in which someone referred to "the events of nine-one-one". If
I heard that version at the time, I haven't for a long time.

--
It doesn't matter that you've got that stupid accent, or that your
bits are different to my bits, because being a Derry Girl,
well, it's a fucking state of mind. And you're one of us.
-- Michelle to James, Derry Girls, series 2, episode 6

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:31:50 -0700 (PDT)
"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-4, Garrett Wollman
> wrote:
> > In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> > bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Which sentence is more correct?:
> > >
> > >'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> > >Administration cover for 911'
> > >

[]

>
> Not to mention, the sentence is apparently wrong anyway: haven't
> they been saying that no "actionable intelligence" was gotten from
> anyone there? (Whatever "a cover for 9/11" might be supposed to
> mean). Is the sentence from some conspiracy nut who still thinks
> it was an inside job so they could invade Iraq and steal the oil?)

A factor may have been that Iraq (read Saddam Hussein) was about to switch from pricing oil in Dollars to Euros, and to upset the French.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2003/feb/16/iraq.theeuro

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 5:54:23 PM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:
> * Garrett Wollman:
> > In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> > bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>Which sentence is more correct?:
> >>
> >>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >>Administration cover for 911'
> >>
> >> - or -
> >>
> >>'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >>Administration a cover for 911'
> >
> > They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of
> > "cover" is a non-count noun.
> >
> > The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
> > "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.
> In connection with this year's 20th anniversary, I heard an old
> recording in which someone referred to "the events of nine-one-one". If
> I heard that version at the time, I haven't for a long time.

The first episode of *NYPD Blue* written after the event (I suppose it
aired a month or two later) referred to "the terrorist attack on the World
Trade Center on September 11," by which time the expression "nine-
eleven" had become firmly entrenched -- so it made it sound like the
writers were trying very hard to be timely but fell quite flat.

[Peter T. Daniels]

The US adaptation of the British series *Life on Mars* (of which I never
could find the DVDs) used the presence of the Twin Towers vs. the
"hole in the sky" to good effect for clarifying which scenes were set
in the past and which in the present.

[bruce bowser]

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-4, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Which sentence is more correct?:
> >
> >'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >Administration cover for 911'
> >
> > - or -
> >
> >'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >Administration a cover for 911'
> They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of
> "cover" is a non-count noun.
>
> The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
> "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.

I think they're both wrong because they should have written 9/11, instead. Simply, that.

[Paul Carmichael]

What happened on the 9th of November?


--
Paul.

https://paulc.es/elpatio

[Richard Heathfield]

1688: William of Orange captures Exeter.
1729: Great Britains sign the Treaty of Seville.
1998: Capital punishment in the United Kingdom abolished.

In the nineteenth century, 9th November appears to have happened
primarily to Americans.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[Tony Cooper]

On 27 Sep 2021 16:31:38 GMT, Paul Carmichael <wibble...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It was not a notable day in the Bush administration.

--

Tony Cooper Orlando Florida

[bruce bowser]

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 12:44:09 PM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 27/09/2021 17:31, Paul Carmichael wrote:
> > El Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:23:02 -0700, bruce bowser escribió:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-4, Garrett Wollman
> >> wrote:
> >>> In article <7c4498a2-2d14-4974...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Which sentence is more correct?:
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >>>> Administration cover for 911'
> >>>>
> >>>> - or -
> >>>>
> >>>> 'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the Bush
> >>>> Administration a cover for 911'
> >>> They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of "cover"
> >>> is a non-count noun.
> >>>
> >>> The first would be correct if something else were writen in place of
> >>> "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.
> >>
> >> I think they're both wrong because they should have written 9/11,
> >> instead. Simply, that.
> >
> >
> > What happened on the 9th of November?
> 1688: William of Orange captures Exeter.
> 1729: Great Britains sign the Treaty of Seville.
> 1998: Capital punishment in the United Kingdom abolished.

And the signature of the Peace of Etaples between Henry VII of England and Charles VIII of France in 1492.

[Snidely]

Paul Carmichael is guilty of
<pan$58062$d32e1f7$1deb4435$a5a3...@gmail.com> as of 9/27/2021 9:31:38
AM

We've had this discussion before. And probably with variants for
Bastille Day, V-E, Dunkirk, Yorktown, the Battle of Midway, Fort
Ticonderoga, Cortez burning the boats, and the sacks of Rome.

/dps

--
"That's a good sort of hectic, innit?"

" Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons."
-njm

[Paul Wolff]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, at 12:14:08, bruce bowser posted:

As Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
(It should have been in fifteen hundred and umpteen that Columbus sailed
the ocean green, but he did it early, so the rhymers had to compromise.)
--
Paul

[Paul Wolff]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, at 15:21:48, Snidely posted:
>Paul Carmichael is guilty of <pan$58062$d32e1f7$1deb4435$a5a359b2@gmail

>> El Thu, 23 Sep 2021 10:23:02 -0700, bruce bowser escribió:
>>> On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 2:10:23 PM UTC-4, Garrett Wollman

>>>> bruce bowser <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Which sentence is more correct?:
>>>>> 'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the
>>>>>

>>>>> Administration cover for 911'
>>>>> - or -
>>>>> 'The torture they underwent yielded confessions that gave the
>>>>>

>>>>> Administration a cover for 911'
>>>> They are both wrong, but the first is less wrong: this sense of "cover"
>>>> is a non-count noun.
>>>> The first would be correct if something else were writen in place
>>>>

>>>> "911" which is the emergency services telephone number.
>>> I think they're both wrong because they should have written 9/11,
>>> instead. Simply, that.
>>
>> What happened on the 9th of November?
>
>We've had this discussion before. And probably with variants for
>Bastille Day, V-E, Dunkirk, Yorktown, the Battle of Midway, Fort
>Ticonderoga, Cortez burning the boats, and the sacks of Rome.
>

We had sack races at our primary school sports day, but as we hadn't
started Latin then, mention of Rome was omitted from the programme.
--
Paul

[Quinn C]

* Snidely:

The end of the bronze age?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1177_B.C.:_The_Year_Civilization_Collapsed>

The author should really have changed his middle name to "D."

--
And ideally, found a co-author named Fall.

[Quinn C]

* Paul Wolff:

It's the "Day of Destiny" (as I'd have translated it) of the Germans, no
less.

| There are five notable events in German history that are connected to
| 9 November: the execution of Robert Blum in 1848, the end of the
| monarchies in 1918, the Hitler putsch attempt in 1923, the Nazi
| antisemitic pogroms in 1938 and the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_9_in_German_history>

--
...an explanatory principle - like "gravity" or "instinct" -
really explains nothing. It's a sort of conventional agreement
between scientists to stop trying to explain things at a
certain point. -- Gregory Bateson

[Snidely]

Just this Monday, Paul Wolff puzzled about:

He'd have gone earlier if the Portugese Royal had agreed to send him,
instead of just pushing down the western African coastline.
Cristobal's experience was in support of the slave trade, but he had
Calculations.

/dps

--
But happiness cannot be pursued; it must ensue. One must have a reason
to 'be happy.'"
Viktor Frankl

[Snidely]

On Monday, Quinn C exclaimed wildly:

> The author should really have changed his middle name to "D."

/dps

--
A missed opportunity

--
"I'm glad unicorns don't ever need upgrades."
"We are as up as it is possible to get graded!"
_Phoebe and Her Unicorn_, 2016.05.15

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 7:27:44 PM UTC-4, Snidely wrote:
> Just this Monday, Paul Wolff puzzled about:

> > As Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
> > (It should have been in fifteen hundred and umpteen that Columbus sailed the
> > ocean green, but he did it early, so the rhymers had to compromise.)
>
> He'd have gone earlier if the Portugese Royal had agreed to send him,
> instead of just pushing down the western African coastline.
> Cristobal's experience was in support of the slave trade, but he had
> Calculations.

Eh? They expected to bring slaves from the Indies?

On later voyages he put the Natives to work locally but didn't "trade" in them.