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Richard

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May 31, 2001, 8:10:29 PM5/31/01
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I have come across this equation in solving cryptic crosswords. The
most recent example is:

Duck was very good at initially espying the drug (6)

The answer is "opiate" where o = duck, pi = very good, at = at, e =
initially espying.

I have inferred the pi = very good.

Can anybody explain where this meaning for pi comes from?
--
Richard Bollard
Australian Mathematics Trust
Canberra, Australia

ntaylor

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May 31, 2001, 9:27:13 PM5/31/01
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:10:29 GMT,
richardbD...@amt.canberra.edu.au (Richard) wrote:

>I have come across this equation in solving cryptic crosswords. The
>most recent example is:
>
>Duck was very good at initially espying the drug (6)
>
>The answer is "opiate" where o = duck, pi = very good, at = at, e =
>initially espying.
>
>I have inferred the pi = very good.
>
>Can anybody explain where this meaning for pi comes from?

>Canberra, Australia


Pious, piety come to mind.

Carmen L. Abruzzi

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May 31, 2001, 9:30:39 PM5/31/01
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In article <3b16ef53...@news.cis.dfn.de>, tay...@htan.org
(ntaylor) wrote:

I don't get how o=duck.

Brian J Goggin

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Jun 1, 2001, 1:20:23 AM6/1/01
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Sright. From Chambers:

===begins=====

pi (colloq) adj obtrusively religious, sanctimonious. --- a pious or
sanctimonious person or talk. pi-jaw sermonizing; an admonition.
[Short form of pious]

===ends=====

I associate it with old-fashioned British school stories: "Oh, don't
be so beastly pi, Carruthers. You know jolly well that Matron has a
secret vice."

bjg

Lars Eighner

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Jun 1, 2001, 2:31:54 AM6/1/01
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In our last episode, <9f6r7v$s8n$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>,
the lovely and talented Carmen L Abruzzi
broadcast on alt.usage.english:

CLA> I don't get how o=duck.


Because you aren't English and a tennis player.

Duck = a pet name equivalent to and interchangeable with "Love."
Love = a score of zero in tennis
0 = o

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Mike Lyle

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Jun 1, 2001, 4:13:07 AM6/1/01
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Cricket: nought is shape of duck's egg.

Mike.


Mike Barnes

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Jun 1, 2001, 3:29:14 AM6/1/01
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In alt.usage.english, Carmen L. Abruzzi <n...@mit.edu> wrote

>I don't get how o=duck.

Cricket. Batsman out without scoring = "a duck".

--
Mike Barnes

Stephen Toogood

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Jun 1, 2001, 5:27:30 AM6/1/01
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In article <d89ehtoonop6d232o...@4ax.com>, Brian J Goggin
<b...@wordwrights.ie> writes

>
>I associate it with old-fashioned British school stories: "Oh, don't
>be so beastly pi, Carruthers. You know jolly well that Matron has a
>secret vice."
>
Oh, you've read that one too then. I like the bit when they finally
caught her in the metalwork shop.
--
Stephen Toogood

John Dean

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Jun 1, 2001, 6:41:08 AM6/1/01
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Lars Eighner <eig...@io.com> wrote in message
news:86u22090d...@dumpster.io.com...

> In our last episode, <9f6r7v$s8n$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>,
> the lovely and talented Carmen L Abruzzi
> broadcast on alt.usage.english:
>
> CLA> I don't get how o=duck.
>
>
> Because you aren't English and a tennis player.
>
> Duck = a pet name equivalent to and interchangeable with "Love."
> Love = a score of zero in tennis
> 0 = o

Cor, Love a Duck Lars! You won't hear them saying 'Duck' at Wimbledon, even
when the balls whizz past their ear-'oles. Love prevails at the All-England
Club. Duck is the term for a score of zero by a batsman at cricket. ''Broke
his duck'' means a batsman finally got off the mark by scoring a run. By
analogy, you can also be said to 'break your duck' when you lose your
virginity. As we say round here, All roight moi duck?
--
John Dean -- Oxford
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Mike Lyle

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Jun 1, 2001, 7:55:05 AM6/1/01
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You're a rotter, Toogers! Scrag him, chaps!

Mike.


Chris

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Jun 1, 2001, 9:08:23 AM6/1/01
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Australians do know :) - they inflict it on others quite often...
It's a cricket-term: to score a duck = to be out for naught, being dismissed
without having scored any runs/points.

Chris


John Dean

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Jun 1, 2001, 10:03:49 AM6/1/01
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Mike Lyle <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message
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> >--
> You're a rotter, Toogers! Scrag him, chaps!

Cave, Cave! Here comes the beak! You blithering idiot Bunter!

Stephen Toogood

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Jun 1, 2001, 9:51:10 AM6/1/01
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In article <toLR6.322$v4....@www.newsranger.com>, Mike Lyle
<nos...@newsranger.com> writes
Yarroo! Stop it you beasts! What if a beak should hove into view?

(Cripes! I'm for it after prep tonight!)
--
Stephen Toogood

Mike Lyle

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Jun 1, 2001, 10:22:07 AM6/1/01
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:03:49 +0100, in <9f87ge$6tf$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, John
Dean wrote:
>
>
>Mike Lyle <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote in message
>news:toLR6.322$v4....@www.newsranger.com...
>> >--
>> You're a rotter, Toogers! Scrag him, chaps!
>
>Cave, Cave! Here comes the beak! You blithering idiot Bunter!
>--
Yaroo!

Mike.
>


ntaylor

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Jun 1, 2001, 11:19:35 AM6/1/01
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:41:08 +0100, "John Dean" <john...@fragmsn.com>
wrote:

>
>>, you can also be said to 'break your duck' when you lose your
>virginity.

It's a mistake, I'm a drake!

Martin Ambuhl

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Jun 1, 2001, 11:27:42 AM6/1/01
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Richard wrote:
>
> I have come across this equation in solving cryptic crosswords. The
> most recent example is:
>
> Duck was very good at initially espying the drug (6)
>
> The answer is "opiate" where o = duck, pi = very good, at = at, e =
> initially espying.
>
> I have inferred the pi = very good.
>
> Can anybody explain where this meaning for pi comes from?

19C British school slang for "pious", often sneeringly said.

Brian J Goggin

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Jun 1, 2001, 4:49:40 PM6/1/01
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:22:07 GMT, Mike Lyle <nos...@newsranger.com>
wrote:

The yaroofulness of the Bunter is terific.

bjg

Steve Hayes

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Jun 1, 2001, 9:18:58 PM6/1/01
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On 01 Jun 2001 01:31:54 -0500, Lars Eighner <eig...@io.com> wrote:

>In our last episode, <9f6r7v$s8n$1...@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>,
>the lovely and talented Carmen L Abruzzi
>broadcast on alt.usage.english:
>
>CLA> I don't get how o=duck.
>
>
>Because you aren't English and a tennis player.
>
>Duck = a pet name equivalent to and interchangeable with "Love."
>Love = a score of zero in tennis
>0 = o

More commonly used in cricket.

Steve Hayes
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/methodius

Bun Mui

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Jun 1, 2001, 11:28:04 PM6/1/01
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I thought pi = 3.14 ???


Comments?


Bun Mui

Ralph Jones

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Jun 2, 2001, 12:11:21 AM6/2/01
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Bun Mui wrote:
>
> I thought pi = 3.14 ???
>
> Comments?
>
Thanks. I had missed that subtlety.

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Steve Hayes

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Jun 2, 2001, 1:06:51 AM6/2/01
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:22:07 GMT, Mike Lyle <nos...@newsranger.com> wrote:


>>Cave, Cave! Here comes the beak! You blithering idiot Bunter!
>>--
>Yaroo!

Will someone please remove that fat owl.


Steve Hayes
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/methodius

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz

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Jun 2, 2001, 10:19:22 AM6/2/01
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>
> In article <83ZR6.7743$gg2....@news1.mts.net>,
> Bun Mui <BunM...@hotmail.com> posted:

> > I thought pi = 3.14 ???
> > Comments? Bun Mui
>
> Very good, it still is (approximately).

I'm a 355/113 kinda guy myself.

Dennis

Steve Hayes

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Jun 2, 2001, 11:43:40 AM6/2/01
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:28:04 GMT, Bun Mui <BunM...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I thought pi = 3.14 ???
>
>
>Comments?

Approximately.

Steve Hayes
http://www.suite101.com/myhome.cfm/methodius

Jitze Couperus

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Jun 2, 2001, 3:24:15 PM6/2/01
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The Bunster wrote:

>I thought pi = 3.14 ???
>
>
>Comments?
>

When God created the world, he screwed up on two things
which he failed to notice in the beta release, and thus
failed to correct in the released version.

First he made the pit of the avocado too large, rendering
its food/garbage ratio less than optimal.

Second was the value of Pi - he meant for it to be the
square root of 10 (which would have been so much more
handy in mathematical computations) but he was off
by an RCH.(1)

(1) An engineering term of art - a tad larger than
a standard CH, but a skosh less than a smidgeon.

Jitze

Spehro Pefhany

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Jun 2, 2001, 3:42:09 PM6/2/01
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The renowned Jitze Couperus <couperu...@znet.com> wrote:

> (1) An engineering term of art - a tad larger than
> a standard CH, but a skosh less than a smidgeon.

No. A RCH is a smaller unit of measurement than standard CH, which is
finer again than the ACH. One data point for the RCH is 0.0025", courtesy
of one Mr. Mike Graham and his digital micrometer. I know not whether
some standards body in Paris has a platinum alloy original standard, but
at least this is real data. Perhaps Rey has more information.

Best regards,
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Peter Moylan

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Jun 2, 2001, 9:19:25 PM6/2/01
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Bun Mui wrote:
>I thought pi = 3.14 ???

You blithering idiot Bunter.

--
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http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au

Charles Riggs

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Jun 3, 2001, 12:22:53 AM6/3/01
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 19:24:15 GMT, couperu...@znet.com (Jitze
Couperus) wrote:

>First he made the pit of the avocado too large, rendering
>its food/garbage ratio less than optimal.
>
>Second was the value of Pi - he meant for it to be the
>square root of 10 (which would have been so much more
>handy in mathematical computations) but he was off
>by an RCH.(1)
>
>(1) An engineering term of art - a tad larger than
>a standard CH, but a skosh less than a smidgeon.

I'd say that an RCH is a tad *smaller* than a standard CH if, by
standard, you mean a B(black)CH and not a B(Blonde)CH.

Charles Riggs

R H Draney

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Jun 3, 2001, 3:09:16 PM6/3/01
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"Dennis Bathory-Kitsz" <bat...@maltedmedia.com> wrote in message
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If you need it in a program, 4*arctan(1) gives it to the precision of the
local floating-point routines....r


Dennis Bathory-Kitsz

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Jun 3, 2001, 8:42:03 PM6/3/01
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I occasionally still do scratch figuring, and that 355/113 comes in a
lot handier tan 4*arcthan(1)3

Dennis

R H Draney

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Jun 4, 2001, 1:49:42 AM6/4/01
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"Dennis Bathory-Kitsz" <bat...@maltedmedia.com> wrote in message
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> R H Draney wrote:
> >
> > If you need it in a program, 4*arctan(1) gives it to the precision of
the
> > local floating-point routines....r
>
> I occasionally still do scratch figuring, and that 355/113 comes in a
> lot handier tan 4*arcthan(1)3

For scratching it will do, but you just missed the moon by over a hundred
yards....r


Donna Richoux

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Jun 4, 2001, 2:34:49 PM6/4/01
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You missed the midpoint of the moon's face by a hundred yards, or any
point on the moon by a hundred yards?

--
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R H Draney

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Jun 4, 2001, 4:23:02 PM6/4/01
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>===== Original Message From tr...@euronet.nl (Donna Richoux) =====

>R H Draney <dado...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> "Dennis Bathory-Kitsz" <bat...@maltedmedia.com> wrote in message
>> news:3B1AD9...@maltedmedia.com...
>> >
>> > I occasionally still do scratch figuring, and that 355/113 comes in a
>> > lot handier tan 4*arcthan(1)3
>>
>> For scratching it will do, but you just missed the moon by over a hundred
>> yards....r
>
>You missed the midpoint of the moon's face by a hundred yards, or any
>point on the moon by a hundred yards?

Missed the spot you were shooting at...unless you were trying for the
trailing
limb, you still hit the moon....

(All this, of course, ignores the eccentricity of the orbit, and the fact
that
any practical trajectory is considerably longer than a mere circumferential
route...I can *do* the calculus if absolutely necessary, but given the
choice
I'd rather be working on my midi files)....r

--
http://home.earthlink.net/~dadoctah/SpektrymLyrics/AlreadySideTwo.mid for
the
latest one, if anyone gives a rap....

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R H Draney

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Jun 4, 2001, 4:23:18 PM6/4/01
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Geoff Butler

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Jun 4, 2001, 5:17:51 PM6/4/01
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R H Draney <dado...@earthlink.net> wrote
>
>(All this, of course, ignores the eccentricity of the orbit, and the fact
>that
>any practical trajectory is considerably longer than a mere circumferential
>route...I can *do* the calculus if absolutely necessary, but given the
>choice
>I'd rather be working on my midi files)....r

Wow. You can solve a four-body problem using calculus? Or at all? Quick,
patent it.

-ler

R H Draney

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Jun 4, 2001, 5:55:41 PM6/4/01
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>===== Original Message From Geoff Butler <ge...@gbutler.demon.co.uk> =====

To as many terms as practical...you might want to make sure your seatbelts
are
fastened, just in case....

And before somebody else points it out, the midi is at
http://home.earthlink.net/~dadoctah/music/AlreadySideTwo.mid , not where I
said before...that'll teach me to try and navigate the folder structure of
my
site from memory...(that's not even rocket science!)....r

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz

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Jun 5, 2001, 10:14:56 AM6/5/01
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More accurate tan my shlide rule...

M. Ranjit Mathews

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Jun 5, 2001, 6:08:02 PM6/5/01
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Bun Mui <BunM...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<83ZR6.7743$gg2....@news1.mts.net>...

> I thought pi = 3.14 ???

So it is.

> Comments?

3.14 is the circumference of a halo with a diameter of 1.

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