How to pronounce "Anemoi"
Sez
word used in Greek mythology to mean wind gods. Here's is its
Wikipedia article for more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi
Any help would definitely be appreciated. :)
Alan Jones
"Sez" <phryn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The e is Greek is short, so I'd guess that "ANny-moi" would be a suitable
English pronunciation. But perhaps someone has actually heard it spoken?
Alan Jones
Derek Turner
In modern Greek it would be a-nem-i, classicists would make the last
syllable -oy. The stress in Greek is marked by an accent, it's on the
alpha so A-nem-i (modern) or A-nem-oy (classical)
Paul Wolff
I'd start with a simple common word like anemometer and work back from
there. It seems to lead to a similar conclusion on the classical front.
--
Paul
Philip Eden
> Derek Turner <frd...@cesmail.net> wrote
>>In modern Greek it would be a-nem-i, classicists would make the last
>>syllable -oy. The stress in Greek is marked by an accent, it's on the
>>alpha so A-nem-i (modern) or A-nem-oy (classical)
>
> I'd start with a simple common word like anemometer and work back from
> there. It seems to lead to a similar conclusion on the classical front.
> --
'Anemometer' is, of course, usually pronounced with the primary
stress on the 'o' and a secondary stress on the initial 'a'. But we
also have an instrument - a self-registering anemometer - which
we call an 'anemograph'. Throughout my lifetime it has always
had the primary stress on the 'e', and I have heard it with either
a long or a short 'e' in roughly equal measure. Being faithful to
the Greek would, I guess, be best achieved by shifting the
primary stress to the 'a' and giving a secondary stress to 'graph',
but it sounds very strange.
Philip Eden
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wrote:
> "Paul Wolff" <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
> > Derek Turner <frde...@cesmail.net> wrote
There's also the anemone or windflower, accented on the second
syllable. What all these words have in common is an accent on the
third-last syllable.
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Jerry Friedman
Peter Groves
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There seems to be a rule on English that words in "-graph" are stressed on
the antepenult -- "phOtograph", "tElegraph", "anEmograph" --, as also words
in "-graphy": "photOgraphy", "telEgraphy", "pornOgraphy", "anemOgraphy" (if
there is such a word).
Peter Groves
jerry_f...@yahoo.com
Though strangely enough, Greek "anemone" is accented on the third
syllable, according to
http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BC%CF%8E%CE%BD%CE%B7
(Take that!)
--
Jerry Friedman
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> "Philip Eden" <philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> >> Derek Turner <frde...@cesmail.net> wrote
>
> >>>In modern Greek it would be a-nem-i, classicists would make the last
> >>>syllable -oy. The stress in Greek is marked by an accent, it's on the
> >>>alpha so A-nem-i (modern) or A-nem-oy (classical)
>
> >> I'd start with a simple common word like anemometer and work back from
> >> there. It seems to lead to a similar conclusion on the classical front.
> >> --
> > 'Anemometer' is, of course, usually pronounced with the primary
> > stress on the 'o' and a secondary stress on the initial 'a'. But we
> > also have an instrument - a self-registering anemometer - which
> > we call an 'anemograph'. Throughout my lifetime it has always
> > had the primary stress on the 'e', and I have heard it with either
> > a long or a short 'e' in roughly equal measure. Being faithful to
> > the Greek would, I guess, be best achieved by shifting the
> > primary stress to the 'a' and giving a secondary stress to 'graph',
> > but it sounds very strange.
>
> > Philip Eden
>
> There seems to be a rule on English that words in "-graph" are stressed on
> the antepenult -- "phOtograph", "tElegraph", "anEmograph" --, as also words
> in "-graphy": "photOgraphy", "telEgraphy", "pornOgraphy", "anemOgraphy" (if
> there is such a word).
I believe the majority of English words (of more than three syllables)
from Latin or Greek are stressed on the antepenult. But not all.
--
Jerry Friedman
Steve Hayes
Greeks today would pronounce it "annemie".
Non-Greek Renaissance scholars would have disagreed.
I know someone whose name is "Annemie" -- I wonder if that is what it is
derived from? Perhaps I'll ask her.
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Peter Groves
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Jerry Friedman
***An interesting claim, hard to test, but there are so many polysyllabic
endings that don't conform that I suspect it's probably not the case: just
off the top of my head, all words ending in "-ation" and adjectival "-ic"
are stressed on the penult, for example, "-ory" and "-ary" tend to throw the
major stress prior to the antepenult (in American English), and so on. Just
out of interest, did you find this claim somewhere, or is it your own
impression?
Peter Groves
Pat Durkin
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> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:43:53 -0800 (PST), Sez <phryn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Could somebody please tell me the pronunciation of "Anemoi"?. It's a
>> word used in Greek mythology to mean wind gods. Here's is its
>> Wikipedia article for more info:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemoi
>>
>> Any help would definitely be appreciated. :)
>
> Greeks today would pronounce it "annemie".
>
> Non-Greek Renaissance scholars would have disagreed.
>
> I know someone whose name is "Annemie" -- I wonder if that is what it
> is derived from? Perhaps I'll ask her.
Isn't there a mental affliction called "anomie"?
Yes.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861585792
from Late 16th century. Via French< Greek anomia "lawlessness" < anomos
"lawless" < nomos "law
jerry_f...@yahoo.com
> <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I've seen it mentioned, but I can't cite a source.
A lot of four-syllable or longer words in "-ure", "-ion", "-ic", "-
ory", and "-ary" have extensions in "-al" that are stressed on the
antepenult (another exception!), so that evens things up quite a bit
without even considering other words. Also, a lot of the words in "-
ation" have corresponding words in "-ate" that are stressed on the
antepenult. On the other hand, most words from Latin ending in "-tor"
are stressed on the penult. (I can't think of any exceptions at the
moment.)
So a more useful but more complicated guideline would be:
Just about all words from Latin or Greek ending in "-tion", "-ic", "-
ory", "-ary", and "-tor" are accented on the second-last syllable.
Most other words from Latin or Greek are accented on the third-last
syllable.
Addition of "-ing" or "-ed" doesn't change the stress. Addition of "-
er" might (-grapher) or might not (-izer).
--
Jerry Friedman
Mike Lyle
> On Jan 16, 9:33 pm, "jerry_fried...@yahoo.com"
> <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 5:01 pm, "Philip Eden" <philipATweatherHYPHENukDOTcom>
>> wrote:
>>> 'Anemometer' is, of course, usually pronounced with the primary
>>> stress on the 'o' and a secondary stress on the initial 'a'. But we
>>> also have an instrument - a self-registering anemometer - which
>>> we call an 'anemograph'. Throughout my lifetime it has always
>>> had the primary stress on the 'e', and I have heard it with either
>>> a long or a short 'e' in roughly equal measure. Being faithful to
>>> the Greek would, I guess, be best achieved by shifting the
>>> primary stress to the 'a' and giving a secondary stress to 'graph',
>>> but it sounds very strange.
>>
>> There's also the anemone or windflower, accented on the second
>> syllable. What all these words have in common is an accent on the
>> third-last syllable.
>
> Though strangely enough, Greek "anemone" is accented on the third
> syllable, according to
>
> http://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B5%CE%BC%CF%8E%CE%BD%CE%B7
>
> (Take that!)
The third-syll stress is because it's a long "o"--omega, not omicron.
But many "anemo-" compounds in Greek also have a third-syll stress on a
short "o" because of a tendency to stress the third from the end, as
Jerry mentions. I don't really know why the flower and a few other words
have a long "o", and my views on these matters should be taken with a
spoonful of caution in any case.
--
Mike.
jerry_f...@yahoo.com
I learned the word "epistasis" yesterday, which turns out to be
"epIstasis", but it lead me to "epistAxis" and "episEmeme" and
"epistErnum", and ''epIscopicide", and I think I take back my rule.
--
Jerry Friedman