OTY:configuring Mozilla Thunderbird for eternal-september

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StephenCalder

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Aug 1, 2011, 12:27:36 AM8/1/11
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If you are having no luck with usenet and newsgroups, you can get free
access to this news server:

news.eternal-september.org

Free registration is available at:

http://eternal-september.org/

I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
Here's how:

When you register you will be given a password which you will need at
step 15 below


1. In Thunderbird, click File/New/Other Accounts
2. Click the button to select "newsgroup account"
3. Click "Next"
4. Enter your choice of displayed name
5. Enter an email address other users can see
6. Enter the name of the newsgroup server: news.eternal-september.org
7. Enter your choice of name to describe the eternal-september account
8. Click Finish, or Back to make corrections, then Finish
9. Click on the name of the account now listed in the left pane in
Thunderbird
10. Click on View Settings. Your chosen name and email address are shown.
11. In the left window below the new account name, select Server
Settings. Important: be sure you are selecting the Serve Settings for
the account you just created and no other.
12. Check the box: "Always request authentication"
13. Important: do not change any outgoing server settings. Use the same
outgoing server settings as you use for email
14. Back in Thunderbird, make sure your new account is selected and
click on "Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions". In the window, click on
Current Group tab. If no groups appear, click "refresh".
15. Be very careful at this point to respond with the correct
information. Don't enter the password when it's asking for your
username. The server will ask for your username first. You must enter
only the username you registered with at eternal-september. Then it will
ask for your password, which you received in an email from
eternal-september (or your current one if you changed it).
16. If you make or have made a mistake at Step 15 (wrong username or
password), close Thunderbird, reopen it and repeat from step 14.
17. If you receive the message "invalid credentials", check that you
have carefully and accurately followed Steps 1-13. If not, repeat from
Step 6.
18. Back in the Subscribe window, you should still be in the Current
Groups tab. If no newsgroups are listed, click "Refresh.".
19. Select the news groups to subscribe to, making you sure do two
things. Check the box next to the group you want and click on
"Subscribe" in the window.
20. Follow the prompts to choose how many messages to download for each
group The default of 500 will get you started. If you want more later,
click on the newsgroup in the pane at the left in Thunderbird (not the
account name) and then click File/Get Next/500 messages
21. Use the View menu to customise how your messages are displayed


Peter Moylan

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Aug 1, 2011, 1:53:15 AM8/1/11
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StephenCalder wrote:

> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.

Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.

On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
supposed to be a mail and news program.

On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
better than version 3.

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annily

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Aug 1, 2011, 4:59:56 AM8/1/11
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On 01.08.11 15:23, Peter Moylan wrote:
> StephenCalder wrote:
>
>> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
>
> Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
> messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
> messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.
>
> On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
> for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
> it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
> supposed to be a mail and news program.
>
> On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
> better than version 3.
>

You always seem to dislike later versions of Thunderbird. I've had no
issues with versions 4 or 5.

--
Long-time resident of Adelaide, South Australia,
which probably influences my opinions.

James Hogg

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Aug 1, 2011, 5:08:37 AM8/1/11
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annily wrote:
> On 01.08.11 15:23, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> StephenCalder wrote:
>>
>>> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
>>
>> Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
>> messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
>> messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.
>>
>> On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
>> for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
>> it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
>> supposed to be a mail and news program.
>>
>> On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
>> better than version 3.
>>
>
> You always seem to dislike later versions of Thunderbird. I've had no
> issues with versions 4 or 5.

I remember having to uninstall version 3 and go back to version 2, which
works as I want it to.

--
James

LFS

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Aug 1, 2011, 6:30:27 AM8/1/11
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I am only just getting used to 3.1.11 - I remembered that people
cautioned against it so stuck with 2 until recently. I had no idea that
versions 4 and 5 existed.

--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)


Percival P. Cassidy

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Aug 1, 2011, 7:12:56 AM8/1/11
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On 08/01/11 06:30 am, LFS wrote:

>>>>> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
>>>>
>>>> Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
>>>> messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
>>>> messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.
>>>>
>>>> On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
>>>> for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
>>>> it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
>>>> supposed to be a mail and news program.
>>>>
>>>> On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
>>>> better than version 3.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You always seem to dislike later versions of Thunderbird. I've had no
>>> issues with versions 4 or 5.
>>
>> I remember having to uninstall version 3 and go back to version 2, which
>> works as I want it to.
>>
>
> I am only just getting used to 3.1.11 - I remembered that people
> cautioned against it so stuck with 2 until recently. I had no idea that
> versions 4 and 5 existed.

I just downloaded and tried very briefly beta versions of Thunderbird 6
and Firefox 6. No problems in the short time I used them, but now I'm on
TB 3.1.11 again.

Perce

Peter Moylan

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Aug 1, 2011, 8:14:31 AM8/1/11
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There never was a version 4. There was a sudden jump in numbering about
a week ago, to bring the version number into alignment with the Firefox
version number.

James Silverton

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Aug 1, 2011, 8:26:00 AM8/1/11
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On 8/1/2011 1:53 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> StephenCalder wrote:
>
>> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
>
> Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
> messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
> messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.
>
> On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
> for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
> it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
> supposed to be a mail and news program.
>
> On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
> better than version 3.
>
Really! I asked at mozilla,support.thunderbird about any precautions and
finding that there were very few, I went ahead. The process was smoothl
and rapid and the only problem was that the default panel is hard to
read. Again, on advice from the newsgroup, I installed the
"ClassicReloaded" theme and all is well.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not* not.jim....@verizon.net

Skitt

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Aug 1, 2011, 1:07:05 PM8/1/11
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annily wrote:
> Peter Moylan wrote:
>> StephenCalder wrote:

>>> I just successfully configured Thunderbird 3.1.11 for this server.
>>
>> Even more off topic: some Thunderbird users are probably getting
>> messages now inviting them to upgrade to version 5. Ignore those
>> messages. Version 5 is by far inferior to version 3.
>>
>> On my Windows machine at work I went to version 5, and put up with it
>> for about a day before reinstalling version 3.3.11. Version 5 thinks
>> it's a web browser; the developers seem to have forgotten that it was
>> supposed to be a mail and news program.
>>
>> On the machine I'm now using I've gone back to version 2, which is even
>> better than version 3.
>>
>
> You always seem to dislike later versions of Thunderbird. I've had no
> issues with versions 4 or 5.
>

I haven't either.

--
Skitt (SF Bay Area)
http://come.to/skitt

Joe Fineman

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Aug 1, 2011, 5:26:13 PM8/1/11
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StephenCalder <cald...@hotmail.com> writes:

> If you are having no luck with usenet and newsgroups, you can get
> free access to this news server:
>
> news.eternal-september.org

I have been using this service without difficulty ever since Verizon
decided that the alt. hierarchy was obscene.

If you have a Unix machine, or run Cygwin under Windows, you can use
Gnus, which is *designed* for reading newsgroups, and avoid the
whimsies of browsers.
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: When the water reaches the upper decks, follow the rats. :||

Lars Enderin

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Aug 2, 2011, 2:19:17 PM8/2/11
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2011-08-01 23:26, Joe Fineman skrev:
> StephenCalder <cald...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> If you are having no luck with usenet and newsgroups, you can get
>> free access to this news server:
>>
>> news.eternal-september.org
>
> I have been using this service without difficulty ever since Verizon
> decided that the alt. hierarchy was obscene.
>
> If you have a Unix machine, or run Cygwin under Windows, you can use
> Gnus, which is *designed* for reading newsgroups, and avoid the
> whimsies of browsers.

All you need to run Gnus is Emacs, which is available for Windows even
without Cygwin.

hagg...@gmail.com

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Nov 29, 2015, 4:51:20 AM11/29/15
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On Monday, August 1, 2011 at 2:27:36 PM UTC+10, StephenCalder wrote:
> If you are having no luck with usenet and newsgroups, you can get free
> access to this news server:
>
> news.eternal-september.org
>
> Free registration is available at:
>
> http://eternal-september.org/
>
>
>
> I

I am trying to set up eternal on a linux laptop with thunderbird and when asked for usr name and password I used my usrname and password which is the same as the ones just emailed to me but nothing happens except the bar on the underlying page stops moving.

Peter Moylan

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Nov 29, 2015, 4:56:58 AM11/29/15
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Check that you have the correct case. A common error is to have the Caps
Lock on accidentally.

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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
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