-----------

[Bob Martin]

This is a stunning performance of Sweet Bird by Handel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irco0KyYLBk&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic

I know it doesn't belong here but I just had to post it somewhere.
I'm sure some here will appreciate it.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Astonishing!

The flautist is superb!

I've sent the link to my Baroque flute enthusiast friend.

The soprano ain't no slouch, either.

[ruudhar...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 6:09:48 PM UTC+2, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 11:35:25 AM UTC-4, Bob Martin wrote:
> > This is a stunning performance of Sweet Bird by Handel
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irco0KyYLBk&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
> >
> > I know it doesn't belong here but I just had to post it somewhere.
> > I'm sure some here will appreciate it.
> Astonishing!
>
> The flautist is superb!

Tastes differ. As if we didn't know already.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english/c/L4ouEa479Nw/m/3zK-GnvIAAAJ

[Ruud Harmsen]

Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:15:41 -0700 (PDT): "ruudhar...@gmail.com"
<ruudhar...@gmail.com> scribeva:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LiztfE1X7E
Similar. Also a bird song imitation. But much better. These musican
also move, but they don't overdo it. Then it's OK.
--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

[Jerry Friedman]

You can always listen without watching.

--
Jerry Friedman

[spains...@gmail.com]

Thank you for posting, and of course we appreciate it.

Owain posted this bit of Purcell some years ago, and it has remained
my favourite:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxTkTw4cCY>

[Ken Blake]

Thanks very much. A beautiful piece, and beautifully performed.

For anyone here who doesn't know baroque instruments, the plucked
string instrument with the long neck is a theorbo, the instrument that
looks like a cello but is bowed underhand is a viola da gamba, and
the flute is a baroque flute. There's a harpsichord behind the
performers but it's not used in this piece.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Wed, 8 Jun 2022 14:25:14 -0700 (PDT): Jerry Friedman
<jerry_f...@yahoo.com> scribeva:

But then it's unmoving.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Unfortunately I can't find the thread in which you posted about
eight messages bitching about the movement of the performers.
Maybe this is more to your taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMcZlzdCbU

[Ruud Harmsen]

Thu, 9 Jun 2022 04:53:29 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> scribeva:

When _I_ click on
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english/c/L4ouEa479Nw/m/3zK-GnvIAAAJ
again, I see it instantly.

>Maybe this is more to your taste.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMcZlzdCbU

Yes, quite an effective conductor. He does what he needs to do, no
more. He's to conductors what Alpine is to Linux.

On the other hand, as I pointed out in Interlingua which you obviously
cannot and will not read, I do like The Who jumps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODKZGBrAtxY&t=0m28s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODKZGBrAtxY&t=101s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODKZGBrAtxY&t=7m44s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUmhzZU4T-E

[Peter T. Daniels]

What was your search term? I searched < Handel > and <Baroque >
but those words happened not to occur.

> >Maybe this is more to your taste.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMcZlzdCbU
>
> Yes, quite an effective conductor. He does what he needs to do, no
> more. He's to conductors what Alpine is to Linux.

I knew people who had presumably regularly seen Reiner conduct
the Chicago Symphony Orchestra in the 1950s and early 60s, but
since I didn't know until very recently that he was the "anti-Bernstein,"
I didn't know to ask about him.

He, along with Bernard Haitink, is one of my all-time favorite conductors.

I was privileged to attend Haitink's very last appearance in New York
City -- Mahler's Third, with the NYPO.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Thu, 9 Jun 2022 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"

Search term? I just clicked the link I mentioned before, which I
copied from Google Groups when looking at my own message.

>> >Maybe this is more to your taste.
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhMcZlzdCbU
>>
>> Yes, quite an effective conductor. He does what he needs to do, no
>> more. He's to conductors what Alpine is to Linux.
>
>I knew people who had presumably regularly seen Reiner conduct
>the Chicago Symphony Orchestra in the 1950s and early 60s, but
>since I didn't know until very recently that he was the "anti-Bernstein,"
>I didn't know to ask about him.
>
>He, along with Bernard Haitink, is one of my all-time favorite conductors.

Nice. I know the name Bernard Haitink, of course (didn't he die
recently? Or is that Herman Krebbers?), but I haven't looked at his
conducting style.

>I was privileged to attend Haitink's very last appearance in New York
>City -- Mahler's Third, with the NYPO.

[Jerry Friedman]

The music can still be moving.

--
Jerry Friedman

[occam]

They are imitating bird songs. Nothing wrong with a bit of flapping
around. I was once told by a flautist that her movements (while playing)
were almost involuntary, propelled by emotion rather than showmanship.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Thu, 9 Jun 2022 11:09:54 -0700 (PDT): Jerry Friedman

Can. But isn't, in the case of the Händel example. To my taste,
anyway.

[Richard Heathfield]

How do you feel about listening to Offenbach's Infernal Galop
without watching? It *can* still be moving, and if you listen to
it twice, can can.


--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[Ruud Harmsen]

Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:33:30 +0100: Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk>
scribeva:

>How do you feel about listening to Offenbach's Infernal Galop
>without watching? It *can* still be moving, and if you listen to
>it twice, can can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQRnHvw3is
Sound kinda familiar. Kinda like it. May be.

[Ruud Harmsen]

Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:09:09 +0200: Ruud Harmsen <r...@rudhar.com>
scribeva:

>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 11:33:30 +0100: Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk>
>scribeva:
>>How do you feel about listening to Offenbach's Infernal Galop
>>without watching? It *can* still be moving, and if you listen to
>>it twice, can can.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQRnHvw3is
>Sound kinda familiar. Kinda like it. May be.

VERY familiar, in fact.

[lar3ryca]

To me as well, but I can't listen to it without singing along, either
aloud or in my head.

On https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQRnHvw3is,
at 1:29, I start singing/thinking part of the jingle from am ad for
'Speedy Muffler'.

"Mufflers, Tailpipes, We do shock absorbers too
Low, Low Prices, we go all the way for you
Speedy Muffler, at Speedy you're a somebody."

Then of course, that's followed by the "can can' tune.

Thanks for the earworm.

--
They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them.

[Snidely]

occam suggested that ...

Lang Lang time no see.

/dps

--
The presence of this syntax results from the fact that SQLite is really
a Tcl extension that has escaped into the wild.
<http://www.sqlite.org/lang_expr.html>

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2022-06-11 23:01:17 +0000, Snidely said:

> occam suggested that ...
>> On 08/06/2022 20:07, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
>>> Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:15:41 -0700 (PDT): "ruudhar...@gmail.com"
>>> <ruudhar...@gmail.com> scribeva:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 6:09:48 PM UTC+2, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 11:35:25 AM UTC-4, Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>>> This is a stunning performance of Sweet Bird by Handel
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irco0KyYLBk&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
>>>>>> I know it doesn't belong here but I just had to post it somewhere. I'm
>>>>>> sure some here will appreciate it.
>>>>> Astonishing!
>>>>> The flautist is superb!
>>>>
>>>> Tastes differ. As if we didn't know already.
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.usage.english/c/L4ouEa479Nw/m/3zK-GnvIAAAJ
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LiztfE1X7E
>>> Similar. Also a bird song imitation. But much better. These musican
>>> also move, but they don't overdo it. Then it's OK.
>>
>>
>> They are imitating bird songs. Nothing wrong with a bit of flapping
>> around. I was once told by a flautist that her movements (while playing)
>> were almost involuntary, propelled by emotion rather than showmanship.
>
> Lang Lang time no see.
>
> /dps

Off-topic (sorry). Test. A message I posted yesterday and again today
hasn't appeared, so this is a test to see if I can still post.


--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

[Peter Moylan]

On 12/06/22 17:40, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
> Off-topic (sorry). Test. A message I posted yesterday and again today
> hasn't appeared, so this is a test to see if I can still post.

I've seen several other messages from you in the last few days.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

[Richard Heathfield]

Perhaps the stamp fell off. They do that sometimes when they run
out of sticky.

[Sam Plusnet]

If you obscured the 'bar code' on a modern (UK) stamp, would it still be
treated as valid?

I may have to do some research when I get home.

[Peter Moylan]

When I was a child the letter-rate stamps showed the Queen's head. I
once put the stamp onto the envelope upside down, and then was scared
for a while that I'd be arrested for insulting the Queen.

[occam]

I am sure the folks at the post office thought "This letter is from
down-under. Let is through."

The experiment I did as a student was to address a letter to myself with
just the postcode and the house number on the envelope - no recipient
name, no city ('London'), no road name. The letter duly arrived and was
a topic of conversation for at least a week.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
delivered (towns were smaller in those days).

WOOD
JOHN
MASS

Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)

Let's see if I can remember the address that actually did work
regularly.

MPOC
2TBH
1012 E U
AA MI
nnnnn (the ZIP code, which I can't remember)

(the first line is the recipient's initials, the second
line is the initialism of the name of the house,
which was etched into a pavement square in front)

[Ken Blake]

I've long believed that a letter would arrive at the correct place
with nothing on the envelope but the 9-digit US zip code. I never
tried it though.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 10:40:57 AM UTC-4, Ken Blake wrote:

> I've long believed that a letter would arrive at the correct place
> with nothing on the envelope but the 9-digit US zip code. I never
> tried it though.

Some apartment houses have more than one ZIP+4, but they
are not assigned individually to each of the 160,000,000 addresses
in the country (that's the figure the USPS use in a current advertising
campaign).

[Madhu]

* "Peter T. Daniels" <e2f6c15d-a932-472e-a331-8b2f74bb7a3en @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:09:10 -0700 (PDT):

> Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
> delivered (towns were smaller in those days).
>
> WOOD
> JOHN
> MASS
>
> Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)
>
> Let's see if I can remember the address that actually did work
> regularly.
>
> MPOC
> 2TBH
> 1012 E U
> AA MI
> nnnnn (the ZIP code, which I can't remember)

>
> (the first line is the recipient's initials, the second line is the
> initialism of the name of the house, which was etched into a pavement
> square in front)

MI 48104-3917 ? punching in 1012 E.Univ Ann Arbor, first result

1012 E University Ave, Ann Arbor, MI 48104
6 beds, 2 baths, 2442 sq. ft. house located at 1012 E University Ave,
Ann Arbor, MI 48104. View sales history, tax history, home value
estimates, ...

which looks like a house in the student ghetto, and so unlikely

[occam]

I hope you have not missed the point. Mine was not a puzzle set to
challenge an unknown postman. It was (and still is) an unambiguous
addressing system that any postman in the UK can look up in his/her
system. Hence:

54 The Bishops Avenue
London
N2 0BE
UK

...can be unambiguously reduced to "54, N2 0BE" (+ UK, if posting from
abroad)

[charles]

In article <jgpclv...@mid.individual.net>,

but, sometimes, one PostCode covers 2 roads,

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

[musika]

It works better in England.

WOOD
JOHN
HANTS

--
Ray
UK

[Jerry Friedman]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 1:50:32 PM UTC-6, musika wrote:
...

> > On 13/06/2022 16:09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

...

> >> Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
> >> delivered (towns were smaller in those days).
> >>
> >> WOOD
> >> JOHN
> >> MASS
> >>
> >> Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)

...

> It works better in England.
>
> WOOD
> JOHN
> HANTS

Why is that better? As far as I can tell, they work the same way.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Jerry Friedman]

Maybe I should have said that I restored PTD's format, which had
three lines.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 1:40:28 PM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> * "Peter T. Daniels" <e2f6c15d-a932-472e-a331-8b2f74bb7a3en @googlegroups.com> :
> Wrote on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:09:10 -0700 (PDT):
> > Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
> > delivered (towns were smaller in those days).
> >
> > WOOD
> > JOHN
> > MASS

No guess?

> > Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)
> > Let's see if I can remember the address that actually did work
> > regularly.
> >
> > MPOC
> > 2TBH
> > 1012 E U
> > AA MI
> > nnnnn (the ZIP code, which I can't remember)
>
> > (the first line is the recipient's initials, the second line is the
> > initialism of the name of the house, which was etched into a pavement
> > square in front)
>
> MI 48104-3917 ? punching in 1012 E.Univ Ann Arbor, first result

No ZIP+4 in those days. Just 48104.

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:50:32 PM UTC-4, musika wrote:
> > On 13/06/2022 16:09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> >> Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
> >> delivered (towns were smaller in those days).
> >>
> >> WOOD
> >> JOHN
> >> MASS
> >>
> >> Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)
>

> It works better in England.
>
> WOOD
> JOHN
> HANTS

How so?

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 4:56:20 PM UTC-4, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 1:40:28 PM UTC-4, Madhu wrote:
> > * "Peter T. Daniels" <e2f6c15d-a932-472e-a331-8b2f74bb7a3en @googlegroups.com> :
> > Wrote on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 07:09:10 -0700 (PDT):

No idea why this posted itself without my intervention.

> > > regularly.
> > > MPOC
> > > 2TBH
> > > 1012 E U
> > > AA MI
> > > nnnnn (the ZIP code, which I can't remember)
> > > (the first line is the recipient's initials, the second line is the
> > > initialism of the name of the house, which was etched into a pavement
> > > square in front)
> > MI 48104-3917 ? punching in 1012 E.Univ Ann Arbor, first result
>
> No ZIP+4 in those days. Just 48104.
>
> > 1012 E University Ave, Ann Arbor, MI 48104
> > 6 beds, 2 baths, 2442 sq. ft. house located at 1012 E University Ave,
> > Ann Arbor, MI 48104. View sales history, tax history, home value
> > estimates, ...

Seems inaccurate. There was an apartment on the top floor
rented to a student, and I never saw any evidence that such
a person used MPOC's bathroom on the second floor.

The ground floor was occupied by an elderly Chinese woman
who was a professor at U-M and a great authority on medieval(?)
Chinese literature. MPOC had a Handicapped license plate because
he (very occasionally) drover her places and had no compunctions
about parking in Handicapped spots even when he wasn't.

The house was hers; I assume she bequeathed it to him.

> > which looks like a house in the student ghetto, and so unlikely

It is a large house on a large lot in a neighborhood of large houses
on large lots, so that characterization seems odd.

Satellite View shows that it's on a corner lot (which I did not
remember), and that it's the largest of the nine houses on its
part of the block.

I suppose Packard St. was where the luncheonette was
where I first had Eggs Benedict.

The name of the house was Two Tiger Book Hut.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Patrick_O%27Connor

He moved to DC the very week I moved to NYC (spring 1997).
I believe he had been at Union for three years and before that
at St. Thomas for three years, so the last time I could have been
there was probably 1991. (We had driven together from there to
Toronto for the ICANAS in August 1990.) He did not sell and
empty the house until 1997. His library was enormous.

[musika]

When I looked it up it said it was Hanover Mass.
I think that Andover Hants works better.

--
Ray
UK

[musika]

Now I see that Andover Mass, exists - so you are right.

--
Ray
UK

[TonyCooper]

On Mon, 13 Jun 2022 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> wrote:


>The ground floor was occupied by an elderly Chinese woman
>who was a professor at U-M and a great authority on medieval(?)
>Chinese literature. MPOC had a Handicapped license plate because
>he (very occasionally) drover her places

Seems unkind to treat an eldery woman like a herd of cattle or sheep.



--

Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment

[Madhu]

* "Peter T. Daniels" <3e17c01a-a8cc-4d3c-94a1-d0d2ae4d7614n @googlegroups.com> :
Wrote on Mon, 13 Jun 2022 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT):

I'd imagine half a dozen students renting and living there. (a dozen if
they are south asian). I didn't think "student ghetto" would conjure up
images of squalor - just an almost completely-student population close
to the university. that's how it was in abq.

> Satellite View shows that it's on a corner lot (which I did not
> remember), and that it's the largest of the nine houses on its
> part of the block.
>
> I suppose Packard St. was where the luncheonette was
> where I first had Eggs Benedict.
>
> The name of the house was Two Tiger Book Hut.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Patrick_O%27Connor

I guessed Michael, and would probably have gotten Patick and O'connor if
given an "Irish" clue. I'm sure you've mentioned the name here a few
times before.

[Jerry Friedman]

...

Strange. I wonder how someone came up with that.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 5:22:09 PM UTC-4, musika wrote:
> On 13/06/2022 21:21, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 1:50:32 PM UTC-6, musika wrote:
> >>> On 13/06/2022 16:09, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> >>>> Supposedly, an envelope addressed as follows was successfully
> >>>> delivered (towns were smaller in those days).
> >>>>
> >>>> WOOD
> >>>> JOHN
> >>>> MASS
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you figure it out? (Some local knowledge is probably needed.)

> >> It works better in England.
> >>
> >> WOOD
> >> JOHN
> >> HANTS
> >
> > Why is that better? As far as I can tell, they work the same way.
> >
> When I looked it up it said it was Hanover Mass.
> I think that Andover Hants works better.

Then you looked up the wrong thing.