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"faggot" is related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? And fascism & fascist?

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News Journalism

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Mar 12, 2010, 4:59:40 PM3/12/10
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Is the word "faggot" related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? The
derogatory term "faggot" has an obscure origin but might have
originated from the word "fagot" (a bundle of sticks) and before that
from the word "fasces" or "fascis" (a bundle of sticks symbolizing
"authority" in ancient Rome), which was the origin of the political
term "fascist" and "fascism." http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html

An eminent etymologist explains that ancient Latin used a hard c-
letter sound, so that "Caesar" was actually pronounced "Kaiser." Thus
the word "fascis" was prounonced with a hard c-letter sound, not the
modern soft c-letter sound and, thus, the older pronunciation of
"fascis" more closely resembles the pronunciation of "fagot."

Fabulous research compares a translation from the Greek writing of one
of Aesop's Fables entitled: The Bundle of Sticks. In the fable an old
man on the point of death summoned his quarreling sons around him to
give them some parting advice. He ordered his servants to bring in a
faggot of sticks, and said to his eldest son: "Break it." The son
strained and strained, but with all his efforts was unable to break
the Bundle. The other sons also tried, but none of them was
successful. "Untie the faggots," said the father, "and each of you
take a stick." When they had done so, he called out to them: "Now,
break," and each stick was easily broken. "You see my meaning," said
their father. And the meaning was supposed to be: Union gives
strength.

Images of the fasces symbol in the United States are at Congress
http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism4a.jpg
Rome Academy School http://rexcurry.net/fascist-flag.jpg
The quarter coin http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism2a.jpg
The U.S. Courts http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism3b.jpg

Prai Jei

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Mar 13, 2010, 2:20:26 PM3/13/10
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News Journalism set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> Is the word "faggot" related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? The
> derogatory term "faggot" has an obscure origin but might have
> originated from the word "fagot" (a bundle of sticks) and before that
> from the word "fasces" or "fascis" (a bundle of sticks symbolizing
> "authority" in ancient Rome), which was the origin of the political
> term "fascist" and "fascism." http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html
>
> An eminent etymologist explains that ancient Latin used a hard c-
> letter sound, so that "Caesar" was actually pronounced "Kaiser." Thus
> the word "fascis" was prounonced with a hard c-letter sound, not the
> modern soft c-letter sound and, thus, the older pronunciation of
> "fascis" more closely resembles the pronunciation of "fagot."

What's the connection with Fagott (so spelt) the German word for a bassoon?
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James Hogg

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Mar 13, 2010, 2:43:33 PM3/13/10
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That comes from the Italian "fagotto", which also means a bundle. The
dulcian instrument is a bundle of pipes.

The origin is uncertain. It can't come from Latin "fascis". The Greek
"phakelos" (bundle, faggot) has been suggested as the source.

--
James

Philip Eden

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Mar 13, 2010, 8:40:37 PM3/13/10
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"James Hogg" <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote :
Fascinating.

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Prai Jei

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Mar 14, 2010, 6:38:04 AM3/14/10
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James Hogg set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

I get the pheeling that that explanation is phake.

Ian Tinny

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Aug 16, 2023, 10:10:13 AM8/16/23
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The following is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny and the Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the linguist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:

"In ancient Rome, the fasces [fas-eez] was a bundle of sticks bound together. It symbolized "union," or people banded together. Thus, the word "fascist" is related to the word "fagot" (or faggot (British)) as a bundle of wood (see the work of the etymologist Dr. Curry) and via the similar early pronunciation of the words "fasces" and "faggot" (the original Latin term "fasces" was pronounced with a hard letter "C" sound or /k/, not the modern soft letter "C" sound or /s/).

In another bizarre parallel to "Christian Socialism," the phrase "fire and faggot" described punishment of a heretic by burning. Heretics who recanted were forced to display the symbol of a faggot on their shirt sleeve for public humiliation.
Homosexuality was illegal under the old crusades, under early "Christian socialism," and under the modern socialist crusades of the socialists Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Castro, Pol Pot, in North Korea, and others.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 16, 2023, 11:05:31 AM8/16/23
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I don't think Prai Jei is still here after 13 years, and James Hogg
certainly isn't, so take your spam somewhere else.


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Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

Ian Tinny

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Aug 16, 2023, 8:09:08 PM8/16/23
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Do you know them?
Why are you here?

TonyCooper

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Aug 16, 2023, 9:06:21 PM8/16/23
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:05:26 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<athe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2023-08-16 14:10:09 +0000, Ian Tinny said:
>
>>> ?:) Proud to be curly
>>> Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply
>> The following is from the book "Third Reich" by the author Ian Tinny
>> and the Dead Writers Club. The book also mentions the work of the
>> linguist Dr. Rex Curry and is available on Amazon:
>
>I don't think Prai Jei is still here after 13 years, and James Hogg
>certainly isn't, so take your spam somewhere else.

You might not want to encourage this Ian Tinny by responding to posts
that appear in this newsgroup. He's so far off even the top end of
the fruitcake scale that he makes the average conspiracy theorist seem
almost normal.

He's buddies with "Dr" Rex Curry, another fruitcake. He's a lawyer
who also claims to be a "professor" but teaches at a community
college* in Florida, and has been a newsgroup pest for many years. He
claims to be a "symbologist" and "cryptologist".

His rating: https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor/714046

Paul Townsend, aka "Prai Jei" of the curly hair, is/was Welsh.
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Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

Ian Tinny

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Aug 17, 2023, 8:18:09 AM8/17/23
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Tony Cooper of Orlando Florida shouldn't be encouraged by responding to comments that he dumps in this newsgroup. Cooper is so far off the top reach of the fruitcake spectrum that he makes other conspiracy theorists seem OK. Cooper is unemployed, has no professional title, and never attended college at any level and has been a newsgroup idiot for years. Cooper claims to be lacking in any knowledge regarding the topics mentioned here and that is why he does not discuss nor dispute the facts stated - as he knows they are correct and must always post his fruitcake evasions.

Peter Moylan

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Aug 17, 2023, 9:55:05 AM8/17/23
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On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:

[a lot of crap]

It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always
attracted to AUE?

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Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

Silvano

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Aug 17, 2023, 10:54:22 AM8/17/23
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Peter Moylan hat am 17.08.2023 um 15:54 geschrieben:
> On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:
>
> [a lot of crap]
>
> It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always
> attracted to AUE?


They are attracted to EVERY active group, be it in English, German or
Italian. Probably also in _active_ French, Spanish etc. groups.

Ian Tinny

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Aug 17, 2023, 11:00:01 AM8/17/23
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It is funny how you described Cooper as a "fuckwit." There is no way to know why they show up in AUE. He was not able to address the OP which is repeated here. You didn't either. LOL.
Is the word "faggot" related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? The
derogatory term "faggot" has an obscure origin but might have
originated from the word "fagot" (a bundle of sticks) and before that
from the word "fasces" or "fascis" (a bundle of sticks symbolizing
"authority" in ancient Rome), which was the origin of the political
term "fascist" and "fascism." http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html
An eminent etymologist explains that ancient Latin used a hard c-
letter sound, so that "Caesar" was actually pronounced "Kaiser." Thus
the word "fascis" was prounonced with a hard c-letter sound, not the
modern soft c-letter sound and, thus, the older pronunciation of
"fascis" more closely resembles the pronunciation of "fagot."

Ian Tinny

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Aug 17, 2023, 11:01:23 AM8/17/23
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Your comments about Cooper are funny too, and in reference to Peter Moylan describing Cooper as a "fuckwit." There is no way to know why they show up in AUE. He was not able to address the OP which is repeated here. You didn't either. LOL.

Is the word "faggot" related to the word "fasces" or "fascis"? The
derogatory term "faggot" has an obscure origin but might have
originated from the word "fagot" (a bundle of sticks) and before that
from the word "fasces" or "fascis" (a bundle of sticks symbolizing
"authority" in ancient Rome), which was the origin of the political
term "fascist" and "fascism." http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html
An eminent etymologist explains that ancient Latin used a hard c-
letter sound, so that "Caesar" was actually pronounced "Kaiser." Thus
the word "fascis" was prounonced with a hard c-letter sound, not the
modern soft c-letter sound and, thus, the older pronunciation of
"fascis" more closely resembles the pronunciation of "fagot."

Sam Plusnet

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Aug 17, 2023, 3:18:31 PM8/17/23
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On 17-Aug-23 14:54, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 17/08/23 22:18, Ian Tinny wrote:
>
> [a lot of crap]
>
> It's now clear that a new fuckwit has turned up. Why are they always
> attracted to AUE?

Happiness is a warm killfile.

--
Sam Plusnet

Daniel Ruth

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Jan 29, 2024, 2:08:32 PM1/29/24
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Rex Curry, the famed linguist, is mentioned in these links for Lew Rockwell's site -

“The expert on the Pledge is Dr. Rex Curry. His website contains many disturbing photos of early pledge takers. Here is a sample.” -Greg Sutton
https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/our-father-who-art-in-washington/

“Rex Curry is the historian who revealed amazing discoveries including (1) that the USA’s Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior adopted later in Germany under Hitler’s socialism, and (2) that the so-called “swastika” symbol was used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” under Hitler.”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/gary-d-barnett/the-evil-intent-of-the-pledge-of-allegiance/

"…[D]ogs are natural libertarians…," says Rex Curry, a lawyer who defends victims indicted when dogs supposedly smell something Our Masters forbid us on them. Dogs "have to be constantly taught to detect drug odors and approach peaceful humans and search them, so that humans can be arrested, handcuffed and imprisoned for decades. That is not an easy trick to teach a dog. It is easier to teach humans." Bravo! Two points for Rex and Rover!
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2011/03/becky-akers/the-tsas-dogs-of-war/

Here is a new definition of capitalism -
Capitalism is your never-ending struggle to outpace socialism and socialism’s ever-growing taxation, inflation, regulation (TIF) and its economic ruin, poverty, starvation, and death.

Most people never think of their lives as constant work to endure the robbery of socialism etc. So much of life is socialist slavery. Yet everyone is taught to blame capitalism and to beg for more socialism as the solution.
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