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Troy Steadman

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Sep 12, 2005, 4:39:49 AM9/12/05
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Is that a word even in Seattle?

http://tinyurl.com/9vuez

Robert Lieblich

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Sep 12, 2005, 6:24:09 AM9/12/05
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Troy Steadman wrote:
>
> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez

195,000 Google hits must mean something (although a lot of them seem
to be proper nouns)

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Ross Howard

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Sep 12, 2005, 7:56:24 AM9/12/05
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:24:09 -0400, Robert Lieblich
<robert....@verizon.net> wrought:

>Troy Steadman wrote:
>>
>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>
>195,000 Google hits must mean something (although a lot of them seem
>to be proper nouns)

Limiting the search to "worser than" reduces it to 27,500, and nearly
all of them seem to be cutesy-cutesy-slash-ironic.

--
Ross Howard

Troy Steadman

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Sep 12, 2005, 8:05:26 AM9/12/05
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Oops! Thanks for not telling me off...

Robert Lieblich wrote:
> Troy Steadman wrote:

"Worser"

Exactly. "Worse"..."worser"..."worsest"

"Get there fustest with the mostest".

Jim Lawton

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Sep 12, 2005, 8:18:59 AM9/12/05
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On 12 Sep 2005 01:39:49 -0700, "Troy Steadman" <troyst...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Is that a word even in Seattle?
>

I wonder if there's a new system on the make, here.

So we have :-

Good Better Best
Bad Worse Worst

Then the first power is

Better betterer betterest
Worse Worser Worsest

And the second is:-

Best Bester Bestest
Worst Worster Worstest

I think it might be possible to arrive at "worsesterester", but I'm busy.

--
Jim
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reproducing at bacterial levels, almost as an
infectious plague envelops its host"
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Sep 12, 2005, 8:34:35 AM9/12/05
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"Jim Lawton" <uc...@use.your.initiative> wrote in message
news:ptrai1tkuld65sbcs...@4ax.com...

> On 12 Sep 2005 01:39:49 -0700, "Troy Steadman" <troyst...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>
> I wonder if there's a new system on the make, here.
>
> So we have :-
>
> Good Better Best
> Bad Worse Worst
>
> Then the first power is
>
> Better betterer betterest
> Worse Worser Worsest
>
> And the second is:-
>
> Best Bester Bestest
> Worst Worster Worstest
>
> I think it might be possible to arrive at "worsesterester", but I'm busy.

How long does it take to arrive at "Worcestershire"?
That's where you get the bestest whats-this-here sauce!

John Dean

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Sep 12, 2005, 9:31:22 AM9/12/05
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Troy Steadman wrote:
> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez

As Mortimer Collins wrote in 1871 in the Inn of Strange Meetings "One
might imagine it a worser Troy."
--
John Dean
Oxford

Don Phillipson

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Sep 12, 2005, 8:45:51 AM9/12/05
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"Troy Steadman" <troyst...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Exactly. "Worse"..."worser"..."worsest"
> "Get there fustest with the mostest".

Reread Steven Pinker's Words and Rules on the
relation between regular and irregular forms.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


Troy Steadman

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Sep 12, 2005, 10:20:19 AM9/12/05
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Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Troy Steadman" <troyst...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1126526726.0...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Exactly. "Worse"..."worser"..."worsest"
> > "Get there fustest with the mostest".
>
> Reread Steven Pinker's Words and Rules on the
> relation between regular and irregular forms.


Can I reread it first then read it for the first time later? Meanwhile
Seattle has come into line:

http://tinyurl.com/9vuez

R H Draney

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Sep 12, 2005, 10:34:23 AM9/12/05
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John Dean filted:

"Richard III", Act I, scene 3:

What, marry, may she! marry with a king,
A bachelor, a handsome stripling too:
I wis your grandam had a worser match.

....r

Jess Askin

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Sep 12, 2005, 1:36:06 PM9/12/05
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What about "worser sauce"?


Skitt

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Sep 12, 2005, 3:50:47 PM9/12/05
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Troy Steadman wrote:

> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez

I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?
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Areff

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Sep 12, 2005, 3:50:41 PM9/12/05
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Skitt wrote:
> Troy Steadman wrote:
>
>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>
> I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?

Yup. It was an AP article, and the same headline was used in various other
publications (including the _Merc_ up in your neck of the woods).

It shows you the power of AUE!


Skitt

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Sep 12, 2005, 4:32:19 PM9/12/05
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Yeah, but headline writers are usually local, and they are a strange breed.

Skitt

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Sep 12, 2005, 4:37:44 PM9/12/05
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Skitt wrote:
> Areff wrote:
>> Skitt wrote:
>>> Troy Steadman wrote:

>>>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>>>
>>> I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?
>>
>> Yup. It was an AP article, and the same headline was used in various
>> other publications (including the _Merc_ up in your neck of the
>> woods).
>>
>> It shows you the power of AUE!
>
> Yeah, but headline writers are usually local, and they are a strange
> breed.

I see that San Francisco Chronicle has "worser" also.

Areff

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Sep 12, 2005, 5:11:04 PM9/12/05
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Skitt wrote:
> Skitt wrote:
>> Areff wrote:
>>> Skitt wrote:
>>>> Troy Steadman wrote:
>
>>>>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>>>>
>>>> I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?
>>>
>>> Yup. It was an AP article, and the same headline was used in various
>>> other publications (including the _Merc_ up in your neck of the
>>> woods).
>>>
>>> It shows you the power of AUE!
>>
>> Yeah, but headline writers are usually local, and they are a strange
>> breed.
>
> I see that San Francisco Chronicle has "worser" also.

I also was under the impression that AP reports typically got headlines
supplied by the local editor. Maybe this is just a web-edition laziness
phenomenon.


Jess Askin

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Sep 12, 2005, 9:59:49 PM9/12/05
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Skitt wrote:
> Skitt wrote:
>> Areff wrote:
>>> Skitt wrote:
>>>> Troy Steadman wrote:
>
>>>>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>>>>
>>>> I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?
>>>
>>> Yup. It was an AP article, and the same headline was used in various
>>> other publications (including the _Merc_ up in your neck of the
>>> woods).
>>>
>>> It shows you the power of AUE!
>>
>> Yeah, but headline writers are usually local, and they are a strange
>> breed.
>
> I see that San Francisco Chronicle has "worser" also.

I was going to say -- wouldn't that be your local paper, rather than the
Mercury-News? And where does one live that's "down" from Hayward? Union
City?


Skitt

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Sep 12, 2005, 10:47:35 PM9/12/05
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My local paper is The Daily Review, published in beautiful downtown Hayward.

> And where does one live that's "down" from Hayward? Union City?

One could say that, but more likely it'd be San Jose.

Charles Riggs

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Sep 13, 2005, 5:30:24 AM9/13/05
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:37:44 -0700, "Skitt" <ski...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Skitt wrote:
>> Areff wrote:
>>> Skitt wrote:
>>>> Troy Steadman wrote:
>
>>>>> Is that a word even in Seattle?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>>>>
>>>> I don't see it. Must have been corrected. Was it in the headline?
>>>
>>> Yup. It was an AP article, and the same headline was used in various
>>> other publications (including the _Merc_ up in your neck of the
>>> woods).
>>>
>>> It shows you the power of AUE!
>>
>> Yeah, but headline writers are usually local, and they are a strange
>> breed.
>
>I see that San Francisco Chronicle has "worser" also.

I see no reason not to happily accept this word. We may even need it.
How better could you say "Seattle is worse than Chicago but Bellingham
is worser still"? "Worser" has stronger connotations than "worse". I'd
use it as I use "sans" -- somewhat jovially, that is.
--
Charles Riggs

Areff

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Sep 13, 2005, 10:16:07 AM9/13/05
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Charles Riggs wrote:
> I see no reason not to happily accept this word. We may even need it.
> How better could you say "Seattle is worse than Chicago but Bellingham
> is worser still"?

I'm not sure I would say that. I'd say that Seattle is worse than Chicago
in *some* ways, while Chicago is worse than Seattle in other ways, and
I'd also say that I've never been to Bellingham.

Charles Riggs

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Sep 14, 2005, 2:46:08 AM9/14/05
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC), Areff <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

Having been in all three, I can attest than none of them are suitable
places for a gentleman, so which is the worst may be a moot point.

Up with Dublin and New York. The movers (AmE: moving company; BrE:
removal company) are due in two hours. Things are looking up.
--
Charles Riggs

Pat Durkin

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Sep 14, 2005, 9:34:37 AM9/14/05
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"Charles Riggs" <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote in message
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Hi, Charles. Nice of you to translate "movers". But you didn't say where
that usage is understood. It makes me feel all alien and everything to
think I don't speak AmE.


Stewart Gordon

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Sep 14, 2005, 12:16:18 PM9/14/05
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Seems my news server was faulty last time. Let's try again....

Ross Howard wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:24:09 -0400, Robert Lieblich
> <robert....@verizon.net> wrought:

<snip>


>>> http://tinyurl.com/9vuez
>> 195,000 Google hits must mean something (although a lot of them seem
>> to be proper nouns)
>
> Limiting the search to "worser than" reduces it to 27,500, and nearly
> all of them seem to be cutesy-cutesy-slash-ironic.

Maybe there are plenty further down the list from the bay or around, who
know more about Worser than anybody else.

Stewart.

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Jess Askin

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Sep 14, 2005, 12:48:40 PM9/14/05
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What he didn't say was where that usage is not understood.


Maria Conlon

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Sep 14, 2005, 2:48:16 PM9/14/05
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Charles Riggs wrote, in part:

> Up with Dublin and New York. The movers (AmE: moving company; BrE:
> removal company) are due in two hours. Things are looking up.

And you will be closer to Padraig, if I'm not mistaken.

"Movers": I speak AmE, and use "movers" (with "moving people" running a
close second, or maybe even tied). I guess I don't think of them as a
"company,"[1] but as the guys who are going to do a huge chore, albeit
for a price.

(As you can see, I was taking your sentence to mean that AmE speakers
say "moving company" rather than "movers." But, on second look, I'm
wondering if you are just defining "movers.")

"Moving company": Question for anyone -- Is that a common term in parts
of the US?

"Removal company": Another question for anyone -- We've discussed
"removal company" before, but I wonder if *every* move is a removal.
Shouldn't the first be a "moval," or perhaps a "moving"? (Please don't
point out to me what "removal" means. I know. But it still starts with
"re." And please don't point out that other words, such as "red" and
"real" start with "re," too.)

[1] A "company," particularly a large or largish* one, generally has no
face, no real persona, no soul, if you know what I mean. It's a thing,
not a person.

*"Largish" is a dictionary word, which surprised me. My inclination is
to use "large-ish" because that spelling makes it plain that the 'g' is
soft.

Best wishes in your new digs, Charles.

Maria Conlon

Skitt

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Sep 14, 2005, 3:08:32 PM9/14/05
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I hope that Charles will not be removed permanently.

Ciao, as they say in those circles.

John Lawler

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Sep 14, 2005, 6:49:44 PM9/14/05
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Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net> writes:
>Areff <m...@privacy.net> writes:
>>Charles Riggs writes:

>>> I see no reason not to happily accept this word. We may even need it.
>>> How better could you say "Seattle is worse than Chicago but Bellingham
>>> is worser still"?

>>I'm not sure I would say that. I'd say that Seattle is worse than Chicago
>>in *some* ways, while Chicago is worse than Seattle in other ways, and
>>I'd also say that I've never been to Bellingham.

>Having been in all three, I can attest than none of them are suitable
>places for a gentleman, so which is the worst may be a moot point.

>Up with Dublin and New York. The movers (AmE: moving company; BrE:
>removal company) are due in two hours. Things are looking up.

Jeez, Charles. Are you moving *again*? I thought you were settled
back in Dublin after finding B'ham unsuitable (I never quite understood
why -- *I* like it -- but it *is* a small American town). Are you
moving now to NY? Or have I missed something (very probable)?

Oh, and Chicago is a great town if you like to eat and drink.
As is Bellingham, for that matter, as long as you have a car
and can get to Vancouver frequently.

As for Seattle, the best description I've
heard of it is "LA with fir trees".

-John Lawler www.umich.edu/~jlawler Michigan Linguistics
---------------------------------------------------------
"My definition of an expert in any field is a person who
knows enough about what's really going on to be scared."
-- PJ Plauger

Skitt

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Sep 14, 2005, 7:29:01 PM9/14/05
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John Lawler wrote:
>
> As for Seattle, the best description I've
> heard of it is "LA with fir trees".

I'll always have a soft spot for Seattle in my heart. That was the place
where my table tennis prowess peaked. It happened the year after the events
described in the excerpt I found on the Web at
http://www.usatt.org/articles/history04/history04_31.shtml:
===============
1968-1969: Mid-Winter Tournaments. 1969: D-J/ Violetta Win Eastern's.
I'll start, as I did with the fall tournaments, by showing you
what's going on in the Pacific Northwest. Harry McFadden won the Jan. Puget
Sound Open in his hometown, Seattle, by beating not D-J but the other Lees,
Joe in the semi's, Larry in the final, both in straight games. Men's Doubles
went to Tom Ruttinger/Joe Lee over Larry Lee/ Peter Leong. A's: Leong over
Tore Fredrickson. Senior's: McFadden over Mike Fraher. 17's: Ruttinger over
Bill Ladd. Under 15's: 10-year-old sensation Eddie Lo over Danny Mattson.
===============

I have played McFadden and Ruttinger many times, but beat them only once
each (I beat Ruttinger in 1968, the first time I played him). McFadden got
killed in a holdup (he was a cabbie) while I was still in Seattle. I don't
know what Ruttinger went on to do. I left the area in early 1970.

Tony Cooper

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Sep 14, 2005, 7:52:57 PM9/14/05
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:49:44 GMT, jla...@umich.edu (John Lawler)
wrote:

>Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net> writes:
>>Areff <m...@privacy.net> writes:
>>>Charles Riggs writes:
>
>>>> I see no reason not to happily accept this word. We may even need it.
>>>> How better could you say "Seattle is worse than Chicago but Bellingham
>>>> is worser still"?
>
>>>I'm not sure I would say that. I'd say that Seattle is worse than Chicago
>>>in *some* ways, while Chicago is worse than Seattle in other ways, and
>>>I'd also say that I've never been to Bellingham.
>
>>Having been in all three, I can attest than none of them are suitable
>>places for a gentleman, so which is the worst may be a moot point.
>
>>Up with Dublin and New York. The movers (AmE: moving company; BrE:
>>removal company) are due in two hours. Things are looking up.
>
>Jeez, Charles. Are you moving *again*? I thought you were settled
>back in Dublin after finding B'ham unsuitable (I never quite understood
>why -- *I* like it -- but it *is* a small American town). Are you
>moving now to NY? Or have I missed something (very probable)?

As I read it, he's moving to Dublin. He moved from Washington state
to Waterford, Ireland and is going from being a culchie to a Dub.

He needs some music swelling the background:

And we're all off to Dublin in the green, in the green
Where the helmets glisten in the sun
Where the bayonets flash and the rifles crash
To the rattle of a Thompson gun

(Words: "Off to Dublin In The Green" Music: "The Jolly Ploughboy".)

--

Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL

Michael Nitabach

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Sep 17, 2005, 4:33:04 PM9/17/05
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Charles Riggs <chriggs@éircom.net> wrote in
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What kind of a neighborhood is Ballsbridge?

--
Mike Nitabach

Tony Cooper

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Sep 17, 2005, 5:31:30 PM9/17/05
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Upscale, generally. Fairly central, but can be a good address. I've
stayed in the area and been to the Royal Dublin Society Horse Show
there.

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