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Richard

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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Recently, I heard of something called the 'b' language. Basically
English, it is used, I suppose, in a twin-speak scenario? Just a secret
language where 'b's are interspersed after each syllable when talking
to friends.

Rules? As far as I can determine, a 'b' follows each syllable, can be
the last letter but not the first letter of a word.

So, Coca-Cola would be Cboca-b Cbola-b

The final 'b' pronounced as in 'b' for bin.
I imagine there are all sorts of versions 'c' 'g' whatever. Does anyone
have any experience of these.

I'm interested in finding about about the structure and how to use it.

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john green

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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Richard <res...@yahoo.com> writes:

> Recently, I heard of something called the 'b' language. Basically
> English, it is used, I suppose, in a twin-speak scenario? Just a secret
> language where 'b's are interspersed after each syllable when talking
> to friends.
>
> Rules? As far as I can determine, a 'b' follows each syllable, can be
> the last letter but not the first letter of a word.
>
> So, Coca-Cola would be Cboca-b Cbola-b
>
> The final 'b' pronounced as in 'b' for bin.
> I imagine there are all sorts of versions 'c' 'g' whatever. Does anyone
> have any experience of these.
>
> I'm interested in finding about about the structure and how to use it.

I learn an "arp" variant of this at school with
"arp" following each pronounced consonant --
Carpocarpa-Carpolarpa using the above example.
It infuriated my mother.

-j
--
J.J.Green, Dept. Applied Math. University of Sheffield, UK
http://www.arbs.demon.co.uk

nancy g.

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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john green wrote:

> Richard <res...@yahoo.com> writes:

>> Recently, I heard of something called the 'b' language. Basically
>> English, it is used, I suppose, in a twin-speak scenario? Just
>> a secret language where 'b's are interspersed after each syllable
>> when talking to friends.

>> So, Coca-Cola would be Cboca-b Cbola-b

> I learn an "arp" variant of this at school with


> "arp" following each pronounced consonant --
> Carpocarpa-Carpolarpa using the above example.
> It infuriated my mother.

When I was growing up, it was "oppa-boppa" or "oppa-doppa".
"Co-oppaca-boppa co-oppala-boppa" would be how we'd say
the name of the soft drink.

Interesting.

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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"nancy g." <nan...@tiac.net> writes:

Whereas I, along with much of my _Zoom_-watching generation, learned
"Ubbi Dubbi", in which each vowel was preceded by an accented /@b/:
/'k@boU,k@b@ 'k@boU,l@ba/ ("CUH-bo-CUH-buh CUH-bo-LUH-buh").

There are a *lot* of these, some of them quite opaque.

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Unna

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Sep 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/24/99
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Richard wrote:
>
> Recently, I heard of something called the 'b' language. Basically
> English, it is used, I suppose, in a twin-speak scenario? Just a secret
> language where 'b's are interspersed after each syllable when talking
> to friends.
>
> Rules? As far as I can determine, a 'b' follows each syllable, can be
> the last letter but not the first letter of a word.
>
> So, Coca-Cola would be Cboca-b Cbola-b
>
> The final 'b' pronounced as in 'b' for bin.
> I imagine there are all sorts of versions 'c' 'g' whatever. Does anyone
> have any experience of these.

No, sorry, it's all vulgar pbig latin to me.

U

nancy g.

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Sep 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/24/99
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Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:

> Whereas I, along with much of my _Zoom_-watching generation,
> learned "Ubbi Dubbi", in which each vowel was preceded by
> an accented /@b/:
> /'k@boU,k@b@ 'k@boU,l@ba/ ("CUH-bo-CUH-buh CUH-bo-LUH-buh").


You do know that ZOOM is back on the air again, don't you?
They're just about to start their second season. I haven't
heard any Ubbi-Dubbi talk on the show so far, but it's possible
I've missed an episode or two.

These days, you can contact them by e-mail or "z-mail". If you
choose z-mail, however, it's good to know that they're still in
Boston, OH, two-ONE, three-FOUR.

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Sep 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/24/99
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"nancy g." <nan...@tiac.net> writes:

> You do know that ZOOM is back on the air again, don't you?

Yeah, but I don't find the new one as watchable, at least as an
adult.

> They're just about to start their second season. I haven't
> heard any Ubbi-Dubbi talk on the show so far, but it's possible
> I've missed an episode or two.

It's on their web site, so I presume they haven't dropped it
entirely.

> These days, you can contact them by e-mail or "z-mail". If you
> choose z-mail, however, it's good to know that they're still in
> Boston, OH, two-ONE, three-FOUR.

But if you send your missive to "Boston, Mass" (rather than "MA"),
will the USPS know what to do with it anymore?

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Jack Gavin

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Evan Kirshenbaum wrote in message ...

>"nancy g." <nan...@tiac.net> writes:
>
>> You do know that ZOOM is back on the air again, don't you?

"Zee-double-Oh-Em"


>
>Yeah, but I don't find the new one as watchable, at least as an
>adult.
>
>> They're just about to start their second season. I haven't
>> heard any Ubbi-Dubbi talk on the show so far, but it's possible
>> I've missed an episode or two.
>
>It's on their web site, so I presume they haven't dropped it
>entirely.
>
>> These days, you can contact them by e-mail or "z-mail". If you
>> choose z-mail, however, it's good to know that they're still in
>> Boston, OH, two-ONE, three-FOUR.

Box 350 to be specific, same as years ago.


>
>But if you send your missive to "Boston, Mass" (rather than "MA"),
>will the USPS know what to do with it anymore?

Yes, but even more slowly.

--
Jack Gavin

TsuiDF

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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Jack Gavin wrote:
<snip>

> >
> >But if you send your missive to "Boston, Mass" (rather than "MA"),
> >will the USPS know what to do with it anymore?
>
> Yes, but even more slowly.

but why can't you just address it to "Our Fair City"?

Stephanie M in M20 whose car definitely goes click, clack . . .

Jack Gavin

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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TsuiDF wrote in message <37EC16...@mcmail.com>...

>Jack Gavin wrote:
><snip>
>> >
>> >But if you send your missive to "Boston, Mass" (rather than "MA"),
>> >will the USPS know what to do with it anymore?
>>
>> Yes, but even more slowly.
>
>but why can't you just address it to "Our Fair City"?
>
Not everyone listens to Car Talk.

But it would take only one clued-in postal worker to supplement the address
you provided, so give it a try.

--
Jack Gavin

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Sep 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/25/99
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In article <v9hwvth...@garrett.hpl.hp.com>,

Evan Kirshenbaum <ev...@garrett.hpl.hp.com> wrote:
> "nancy g." <nan...@tiac.net> writes:
>
> > john green wrote:
> >
> > > Richard <res...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > >> Recently, I heard of something called the 'b' language. Basically
> > >> English, it is used, I suppose, in a twin-speak scenario? Just a
> > >> secret language where 'b's are interspersed after each syllable
> > >> when talking to friends.
> >
> > >> So, Coca-Cola would be Cboca-b Cbola-b
> >
> > > I learn an "arp" variant of this at school with
> > > "arp" following each pronounced consonant --
> > > Carpocarpa-Carpolarpa using the above example.
> > > It infuriated my mother.
> >
> > When I was growing up, it was "oppa-boppa" or "oppa-doppa".
> > "Co-oppaca-boppa co-oppala-boppa" would be how we'd say
> > the name of the soft drink.
>
> Whereas I, along with much of my _Zoom_-watching generation, learned
> "Ubbi Dubbi", in which each vowel was preceded by an accented /@b/:
> /'k@boU,k@b@ 'k@boU,l@ba/ ("CUH-bo-CUH-buh CUH-bo-LUH-buh").
>
> There are a *lot* of these, some of them quite opaque.
>
> --
> Evan Kirshenbaum
+------------------------------------

> HP Laboratories |Specifically, I'd like to
debate
> 1501 Page Mill Road, Building 1U |whether cannibalism ought to
be
> Palo Alto, CA 94304 |grounds for leniency in
murder,
> |since it's less wasteful.
> kirsh...@hpl.hp.com | Calvin
> (650)857-7572
>
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Evan_Kirshenbaum/
>

The French have _javanais_. (The word means "Javanese".) I don't know
the exact rules but it involves inserting into words various syllables
with a "v" in them. Here are examples collected from a couple of pages
on the Internet:

chaussure ("shoe") -> chavaussavurave

deux heures plus tard ("two hours later") deveux heuveureuves pluvus
tavard

I've heard this called the French equivalent to Pig Latin, which I
suppose means that every French child has experimented with it at one
time or another.

Raymond S. Wise
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Orne Batmagoo

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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In article <M9VG3.2178$rD4....@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Jack Gavin writes:

> TsuiDF wrote in message <37EC16...@mcmail.com>...

[...]


>>> >But if you send your missive to "Boston, Mass" (rather than "MA"),
>>> >will the USPS know what to do with it anymore?
>>>
>>> Yes, but even more slowly.
>>
>>but why can't you just address it to "Our Fair City"?
>>
> Not everyone listens to Car Talk.
>
> But it would take only one clued-in postal worker to supplement the address
> you provided, so give it a try.

It might work. I heard tell of a letter that was delivered, addressed as:

HILL
JOHN
TON

Although this story could be apocryphal, I heard it in the '50s, before the
world turned cynical and folks started making stuff up. The recipient was:

<<SPOILER>>

John Underhill, Overton, Massachusetts.
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Orne Batmagoo

Evan Kirshenbaum

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r...@darkstar.uwsa.edu (Orne Batmagoo) writes:

> In article <M9VG3.2178$rD4....@news.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Jack Gavin writes:
> > But it would take only one clued-in postal worker to supplement the address
> > you provided, so give it a try.
>
> It might work. I heard tell of a letter that was delivered, addressed as:
>
> HILL
> JOHN
> TON
>
> Although this story could be apocryphal,

_Games_ magazine used to give out prizes for letters that required the
USPS to figure out puzzles in order to be delivered. I recall that
there were some pretty amazing ones that got published. (Evidently
there are (or at least were) people who would take the time to try to
figure them out if it was apparent that it was a puzzle.)

I had figured that they would have a section for them on their web
site, but I can't for the life of me find their web site. (Warning to
those who go looking: "http://www.gamesmag.com/" appears to be a porn
site.)

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|something and not pay for it.
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