Rex Curry's research aided by American Philological Association work
Tinny Ray
texts and civilizations, often concentrating on Rome and Greece. Some
researchers examine the influence of Rome upon American government and
society, and they fear the totalitarian system that led to Rome's
downfall. Those worries have relevance today in the enormous size and
scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Philology has gained some amazing recent discoveries. Recently, the
noted philologer Dr. Rex Curry proved that the so-called "ancient Roman
salute" (the straight-arm salute later used by the National Socialist
German Workers' Party (NSGWP)) did not exist in ancient Rome and that
it originated in the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance (1892).
Philologist Curry showed that the USA's early pledge of allegiance to
the flag used a straight-arm salute and it was the source of the salute
of the monstrous German National Socialists. The "ancient Roman salute"
is a modern myth that grew during and after the lives of Edward Bellamy
(1850-1898) and Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). The myth is still
repeated in efforts to cover-up Dr. Curry's ground-breaking work.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
Information from the American Philological Association (APA) supports
Dr. Rex Curry's work. The American Philological Association (APA),
founded in 1869 by "professors, friends, and patrons of linguistic
science," is now the principal learned society in North America for the
study of ancient Greek and Roman languages, literatures, and
civilizations.
An abstract from the APA states that the raised-arm salute was used in
fictional Roman scenes in these films: the American "Ben-Hur" (1907),
the Italian "Nerone" (1908), "Spartaco" (1914), and "Cabiria" (1914).
Those scenes helped lead to the "Roman salute" myth. Dr. Curry pointed
out that the APA abstract was uninformed about the fact that the Pledge
of Allegiance pre-dated all of the films cited and that the pledge was
the source of the salute used in the films.
More support for Dr. Curry's work also comes from the Oxford English
Dictionary (OED).
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html
Many books about philology mention the work of the German archaeologist
Heinrich Schliemann. In 1873, he excavated what he believed to be Troy.
Troy is a legendary city, described in the Iliad, one of the two epic
poems attributed to Homer and it influenced Rome.
Schleimann found examples of the swastika symbol during his exploration
of Troy, and his discovery later influenced the use of the symbol in
the NSGWP. Over a century after Schleimann's work, there was another
discovery by Professor Curry: Although the swastika was an ancient
symbol, it was also used sometimes by the National Socialist German
Workers' Party to represent meshed "S" letters for their "socialism."
The leader of German National Socialists turned the symbol 45 degrees
to the horizontal and oriented it to always point clockwise. Although
it was an ancient symbol, was used sometimes by the German National
Socialists to represent overlapping S-shaped figures for their
"socialism." He altered his own signature to use the same symbolism and
similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens. Similar to a
Roman Standard, he put it on the national flag and turned it into a
military rallying point.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
The symbol was used in a war worse than a thousand Trojan Wars. In
1939, the National Socialist German Workers' Party joined with the
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to invade Poland in a pact to
divide up Europe. The socialist philosophy had similarities to Rome in
glorifying the military, authoritarianism, slavery and conquest and it
led to the worst slaughter of humanity ever. How many people died in
the Trojan War? Few compared to the number killed in the socialist
Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics (62 million dead), the Peoples' Republic of China
(49 million dead), the National Socialist German Workers' Party (21
million dead).
Many books attribute large Roman influence upon Germany and the United
States. One parallel between the three is that they both developed
large authoritarian governments. The present government in the USA is
anti libertarian and is out-socializing the previous administration by
more than double and growing (in social spending ALONE).
Another parallel between Germany and Rome is that they both persecuted
people who did not adopt the official dogma. Specific groups of people
were persecuted in Rome and Germany.
It helps to show how close the USA moved toward (and is still moving
toward) the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part).
Many Americans serve as sad examples of how authoritarian governments
come into existence, grow so large, last so long, and kill so many. The
dogma of socialism and human sacrifice is still growing all over the
world.
The USA still follows similar anti libertarian policies promoted by the
Bellamys. Many socialist Bellamy policies caused the USA's big,
expensive and oppressive government and its growing police-state. It
caused the Great Socialist Depression (from the Federal Reserve Act of
1913, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act 1930 etc) that persisted and even
lasted through U.S. involvement in WWII. The Pledge still exists along
with laws mandating that teachers lead the robotic pledge chanting
every day for twelve years of each child's life (though the salute
was altered). The government still owns and operates schools, including
the same schools that imposed segregation by law and taught racism as
official government policy. The U.S. practice of imposing segregation
by law in government schools and teaching racism as official policy
even outlasted the National Socialist German Workers' Party by over 15
years. After segregation in government's schools ended, the Bellamy
legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed
communities and neighborhoods and deepened hostilities. Those schools
still exist. Infants are given social security numbers (socialist
slave numbers) that track and tax them for life. Government schools
demand the numbers for enrollment.
Don Phillipson
news:1159031801.1...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
> texts and civilizations, often concentrating on Rome and Greece. Some
> researchers examine the influence of Rome upon American government and
> society, and they fear the totalitarian system that led to Rome's
> downfall. Those worries have relevance today in the enormous size and
> scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
> http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Fortunately the rest of the farrago (snipped) has nothing
to do with philology, language, symbology or iconography --
and plenty to with current paranoid politics.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Martin Ambuhl
> Philology has gained some amazing recent discoveries. Recently, the
> noted philologer Dr. Rex Curry proved ...
Since no one in the universe other than Rex Curry would call him a
"noted philologer" or a noted anything other than "noted troll" or its
equivalent, Tinny Ray has advertized himself as Rex Curry's sock puppet.
[...]
> Information from the American Philological Association (APA) supports
> Dr. Rex Curry's work.
Note that a search of the APA website <http://www.apaclassics.org/>
yields:
No matches were found for '(curry or curried or currying or currier or
curries)'
Perhaps you should stop pretending some sort of endorsment from them.
Tinny Ray
Phillipson of Carlsbad Springs, (Ottawa, Canada). Nevertheless, you
deserve some credit for not actually disputing any of the facts.
A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
texts and civilizations, often concentrating on Rome and Greece. Some
researchers examine the influence of Rome upon American government and
society, and they fear the totalitarian system that led to Rome's
downfall. Those worries have relevance today in the enormous size and
scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Philology has gained some amazing recent discoveries. Recently, the
Tinny Ray
the web reveals no educational degrees or accomplishments to speak of
for Martin Ambuhl. He also is incapable of doing the slightest
research on the APA website or any website. Note also that he did not
actually contact the APA, because he knows that the result would simply
be even more public humiliation that he advertises for himself.
Perhaps you should stop pretending some sort of educational or research
skills, Martin. You do deserve partial credit for not actually
disputing any of the facts stated, but then, you were incapable of
doing so. And you are green with envy at the accomplishments of
others, that far exceed any capabilities you will ever have.
A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
texts and civilizations, often concentrating on Rome and Greece. Some
researchers examine the influence of Rome upon American government and
society, and they fear the totalitarian system that led to Rome's
downfall. Those worries have relevance today in the enormous size and
scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Philology has gained some amazing recent discoveries. Recently, the
noted philologer Dr. Rex Curry proved that the so-called "ancient Roman
salute" (the straight-arm salute later used by the National Socialist
German Workers' Party (NSGWP)) did not exist in ancient Rome and that
it originated in the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance (1892).
Philologist Curry showed that the USA's early pledge of allegiance to
the flag used a straight-arm salute and it was the source of the salute
of the monstrous German National Socialists. The "ancient Roman salute"
is a modern myth that grew during and after the lives of Edward Bellamy
(1850-1898) and Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). The myth is still
repeated in efforts to cover-up Dr. Curry's ground-breaking work.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
Information from the American Philological Association (APA) supports
the Omrud
> Martin Ambuhl is a noted troll and a sock puppet. Note that a search of
> the web reveals no educational degrees or accomplishments to speak of
> for Martin Ambuhl.
Golly. I've just done a search of the web and I can find no evidence
of any educational degrees or accomplishments for myself. Perhaps
all that time I remember spending at university was really a dream.
Hang on while I step out of the shower ...
Oh, bugger, I've just realised who you are.
--
David
=====
Tinny Ray
Ambuhl, and for realizing that Martin is a notorious troll and a sock
puppet. David is not dreaming when David notes that a search of the web
reveals no educational degrees or accomplishments by Martin Ambuhl.
Martin is also incapable of doing the slightest research on the APA
website or any website. Note also that Martin is similar to other
trolls in that Martin did not actually contact the APA, because he
knows that the result would simply be even more public humiliation that
Perhaps Martin should stop pretending some sort of educational or
research
skills. Martin is similar to other trolls in that he does deserve
partial credit for not actually disputing any of the facts stated in
Dr. Curry's work, but then, Martin was incapable of doing so. And
Martin is are green with envy at the accomplishments of
others, that far exceed any capabilities Martin will ever have.
the Omrud
> Thanks to David the Omrud for repeating the criticism made of Martin
> Ambuhl, and for realizing that Martin is a notorious troll and a sock
> puppet. David is not dreaming when David notes that a search of the web
> reveals no educational degrees or accomplishments by Martin Ambuhl.
'Fess up: you've got all this stuff on a macro, haven't you?
--
David
=====
Tony Cooper
wrote:
Most nutcases that use the broken-record spiel that this guy uses have
something in mind that they want to accomplish. Even if the
"something in mind" is that the FBI is picking up thoughts from dental
fillings, their objective is to get the FBI to stop.
I can't figure out what Curry is trying to accomplish. He presents
all these pseudo facts, but the conclusion would be "So what?" even if
you accepted the premises.
--
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
the Omrud
There you go again, failing to disprove any of his statements.
--
David
=====
A. Gwilliam
> I can't figure out what Curry is trying to accomplish. He presents
> all these pseudo facts, but the conclusion would be "So what?" even if
> you accepted the premises.
I believe he's trying to bring to the public's attention the dreadful
consequences of SOCIALISM. This seems to be a bugbear with certain
Americans, for some weird reason. The bastard child of McCarthyism?
--
A. Gwilliam
To e-mail me, replace "bottomless_pit" with "devnull"
Mike Lyle
> > I can't figure out what Curry is trying to accomplish. He presents
> > all these pseudo facts, but the conclusion would be "So what?" even if
> > you accepted the premises.
>
> There you go again, failing to disprove any of his statements.
There's a surprisingly good illustrated article on the gesture in
Wikipedia, which confirms and adds a lot to what I'd always thought.
Note too that in one of the Puck stories Kipling has a completely
fanciful account -- fanciful to the point of ludicrousness -- of a
salute by a Roman soldier: he doesn't describe it in detail, but
there's quite enough there to show that the author didn't expect his
readers to think the raised-arm gesture was the Roman one. Kipling is
always as enjoyably fatuous on Roman history as on any other.
I think our correspondent is trying to protect America from socialism.
(No, Rexy, don't thank me.)
--
Mike.
John Kane
A. Gwilliam wrote:
> Tony Cooper wrote:
>
> > I can't figure out what Curry is trying to accomplish. He presents
> > all these pseudo facts, but the conclusion would be "So what?" even if
> > you accepted the premises.
>
> I believe he's trying to bring to the public's attention the dreadful
> consequences of SOCIALISM. This seems to be a bugbear with certain
> Americans, for some weird reason. The bastard child of McCarthyism?
I believe the Romans used to scare children with the name of Hannibal.
Possibly US parents use "SOCIALISM" and "COMMUNISM" in a similar
manner
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
A. Gwilliam
I'm surprised that no-one seems to have claimed that bin Laden is a
socialist.
Except they probably have; I don't wish to be provided with proof of it!
Tony Cooper
wrote:
>I think our correspondent is trying to protect America from socialism.
>
There was a time when phrases like "creeping socialism" were commonly
heard in the US. I think it's as commonly used now as "neat's-foot
oil", and similar in that only a small number of people with
specialized interests use it.
Like "neat's-foot oil", you have to be of a certain age to understand
it. Even a student who has taken some classes in Government, who may
know the term, will probably not be able to explain the term.
Mike Lyle
The Muzzelims'll git ya, ef ya don't watch out!
--
Mike.
Martin Ambuhl
I responded only to the posting by pseudonymous "Tinny Ray" only because
he used this sock puppet to sneak by the many killfiles which block his
previous incarnation as Rex Curry. Having alerted people to his current
dishonesty, I immediately added his new identity to my killfile. I
don't know its because I didn't bother to insert a "*PLONK*" in my post
or because his robot insult machine automatically posts that he bothered
with his ridiculous and inconsequential attempt at vilifying me. If
others would stop quoting him, I won't see the irrelevant Rex Curry's
writing until his next fake identity (or one of his completely
irrelevant hatchet jobs used as a "review" on Amazon.com).
Skitt
> the Omrud wrote:
What surprises me is that someone with his characteristics and posting
habits is a member in good standing with the Florida Bar.
http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/All/6447DEBE36C0D68B85256A84000461BF?OpenDocument
I mean, someone could unkowingly enlist his services.
--
Skitt
Living in The Heart of the Bay
http://www.ci.hayward.ca.us/
Peter Moylan
> Tony Cooper wrote:
>
>> I can't figure out what Curry is trying to accomplish. He presents
>> all these pseudo facts, but the conclusion would be "So what?"
>> even if you accepted the premises.
>
> I believe he's trying to bring to the public's attention the dreadful
> consequences of SOCIALISM. This seems to be a bugbear with certain
> Americans, for some weird reason. The bastard child of McCarthyism?
I'm surprised that so many people read far enough to find out what he
was on about.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet
address could disappear at any time.
Mike Lyle
Skitt wrote:
[...]
> What surprises me is that someone with his characteristics and posting
> habits is a member in good standing with the Florida Bar.
> http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/All/6447DEBE36C0D68B85256A84000461BF?OpenDocument
>
> I mean, someone could unkowingly enlist his services.
Yes, I wondered about that, too. IIRC, he even used to attach the
Florida Bar link to his messages. I hope it doesn't reveal anything
about the barristers (Hi, PG!) in Florida.
--
Mike.
Tony Cooper
wrote:
>
Perhaps Bob can answer this, but I wonder if an attorney who is a
member of the bar in good standing necessarily practices law at all.
He certainly may practice law in a postilion in which he is not hired
by any member of the general public.
Curry may, for example, be the in-house attorney for the Flat Earth
Society or the Amalgamated Tinfoil Hat Makers union.
T.H. Entity
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrought:
You may mock, Tony Cooper, but recent research by Dr. Rex Curry, as
endorsed by MIT and That Place in Atlanta Where They Mess with Ebola
and Other Shit That Makes You Literally Cry Blood Eeeuww, has
CONCLUSIVELY determined that the Earth is NOT FLAT but S-shaped --
yes, that's S for Stalin, Social Security, Sissy Spacek and SOCIALISM!
You also demonstrate your WOEFUL ignorance of IMPORTANT facts, Tony
Cooper, when you make facile references to "amalgamated tinfoil hats".
Anybody who is genuinely CONCERNED about the future of yoominkind
knows full well that HOT-ROLLED ALUMINUM is the only way to go.
--
THE
"If you or I use a word inappropriately, that's an error. If a newspaper
uses a word inappropriately, that's a citation source for the dictionaries."
-- Peter Moylan
Tony Cooper
wrote:
Thank you for not disagreeing with me.
(And not pointing out that I'm saddled with an error in what I wrote.)
Mike Lyle
It caused my computer to be struck by lightning. Have my hat
steam-cleaned and delivered to the chambermaid. I did not order this.
How much does it cost to hire this steamboat? The men have consumed all
their rations, and I shall not pay for any replacements. The lady
requires a new shotgun.
--
Mike.
Mike Lyle
T.H. Entity wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:26:30 GMT, Tony Cooper
> <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrought:
> >Curry may, for example, be the in-house attorney for the Flat Earth
> >Society or the Amalgamated Tinfoil Hat Makers union.
>
> You may mock, Tony Cooper, but recent research by Dr. Rex Curry, as
> endorsed by MIT and That Place in Atlanta Where They Mess with Ebola
> and Other Shit That Makes You Literally Cry Blood Eeeuww, has
> CONCLUSIVELY determined that the Earth is NOT FLAT but S-shaped --
> yes, that's S for Stalin, Social Security, Sissy Spacek and SOCIALISM!
>
> You also demonstrate your WOEFUL ignorance of IMPORTANT facts, Tony
> Cooper, when you make facile references to "amalgamated tinfoil hats".
> Anybody who is genuinely CONCERNED about the future of yoominkind
> knows full well that HOT-ROLLED ALUMINUM is the only way to go.
The Colonel is stunned. This news about the S shape is going to take
some digesting, and I hope the shock will do him no lasting harm: as he
often remarks, he's tougher'n a smoked coon-tail, but he _isn't_
getting any younger. Do be careful with these revelations.
--
Mike.
Robert Lieblich
[ ... ]
> Perhaps Bob can answer this, but I wonder if an attorney who is a
> member of the bar in good standing necessarily practices law at all.
(Assuming I'm the Bob meant:) Lots of lawyers stay in good standing
but don't practice. My son is one such -- he remains in good standing
with the Virginia Bar (I sometimes wonder why he bothers), but he's
engaged in his own business enterprise several hundred miles away and
represents neither his company nor any other client. His legal acumen
is of some general use to him in the business, but for real legal work
he hires a lawyer.
> He certainly may practice law in a postilion in which he is not hired
> by any member of the general public.
>
> Curry may, for example, be the in-house attorney for the Flat Earth
> Society or the Amalgamated Tinfoil Hat Makers union.
I think their standards are likely to be higher than that.
--
Bob Lieblich
Who denies every word Rex Curry says, including "and" and "the"
A. Gwilliam
> It caused my computer to be struck by lightning. Have my hat
> steam-cleaned and delivered to the chambermaid. I did not order this.
> How much does it cost to hire this steamboat? The men have consumed
> all their rations, and I shall not pay for any replacements. The lady
> requires a new shotgun.
Ah, you're one of those people who composes that abstract poetry that
appears in some of the spam I get. Are you the one who wrote the stuff
about hobbits and whatnot?
Mike Lyle
A. Gwilliam wrote:
> Mike Lyle wrote:
>
> > It caused my computer to be struck by lightning. Have my hat
> > steam-cleaned and delivered to the chambermaid. I did not order this.
> > How much does it cost to hire this steamboat? The men have consumed
> > all their rations, and I shall not pay for any replacements. The lady
> > requires a new shotgun.
>
> Ah, you're one of those people who composes that abstract poetry that
> appears in some of the spam I get. Are you the one who wrote the stuff
> about hobbits and whatnot?
As I penned, it did occur to me that not everybody might be familiar
with the phrase-book entry "The/my/our postilion has been struck by
lightning". I think it's apocryphal, but there are forty or so Ggls,
one of which could be rather a good poem, though it wouldn't open for
me. Try pasting in "postilion has been struck by lightning" if curious.
I've got a few old phrase books, but they're in boxes (Hola, Ros!) so I
had to make some up: I assure you my efforts would have seemed entirely
reasonable in comparison with the real thing.
--
Mike.
A. Gwilliam
I accept your assurance without hesitation.
I probably still have a Lonely Planet guide book to post-Soviet Central
Asia that comments in passing that phrasebooks for the region's
languages are generally not up to much, with one example being
something like "The runway at Alma-Ata is 4000m long and made of
concrete".
I also have a hazy memory of laughing with a travelling companion
somewhere over the phrases in each other's phrasebooks. Being modern
publications they were rather more practical than the traditional sort,
and had wonderful stuff such as "It comes undone like this".
Michael Wojcik
In article <1159290537.5...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Mike Lyle" <mike_l...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>
> As I penned, it did occur to me that not everybody might be familiar
> with the phrase-book entry "The/my/our postilion has been struck by
> lightning".
Possibly misremembered from various phrases in turn-of-the-century
Baedeker guidebooks, if this site:
http://www.rarebookreview.com/index.php?nav=features&featureID=78
is anything to judge by.
(Loy's last, lost, lunar Baedeker does not appear to feature
postilions, accidentially electrified or otherwise; but it is hardly
the one to go by.)
I suspect the poem you found is Patricia Beer's "The Postilion Has
Been Struck By Lightning", which does.
--
Michael Wojcik michael...@microfocus.com
When most of what you do is a bit of a fraud, the word "profession"
starts to look like the Berlin Wall. -- Tawada Yoko (t. M. Mitsutani)
Mike Lyle
Michael Wojcik wrote:
> In article <1159290537.5...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Mike Lyle" <mike_l...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> >
> > As I penned, it did occur to me that not everybody might be familiar
> > with the phrase-book entry "The/my/our postilion has been struck by
> > lightning".
>
> Possibly misremembered from various phrases in turn-of-the-century
> Baedeker guidebooks, if this site:
>
> http://www.rarebookreview.com/index.php?nav=features&featureID=78
>
> is anything to judge by.
A fine page: many thanks for the link. The conflation of the two
phrases seems highly likely.
>
> (Loy's last, lost, lunar Baedeker does not appear to feature
> postilions, accidentially electrified or otherwise; but it is hardly
> the one to go by.)
>
> I suspect the poem you found is Patricia Beer's "The Postilion Has
> Been Struck By Lightning", which does.
Ah, the friend of Heraclitus! That rings a bell now: thanks again.
--
Mike.
Tinny Ray
high educational standards. He shares that with many of the other
posters here. Bob Lieblich might be a victim of government schools in
that Bob does not understand the basic concept of presenting evidence
in a factual debate. Many of the posters are victims of government
schools (socialist schools) and share that similarity with Bob, in that
Bob thinks that a debate involves hurling insults in the hope that it
hides Bob's ignorance on the topic at hand. Thus Bob joins the other
posters in not denying a single word of Dr. Rex Curry's work. Bob also
demonstrated his inability to do the simplest research about the topic
he wishes he was capable of discussing.
After babbling sheer speculation about the qualifications of others,
Bob (in Bob's usual comic stupidity) confesses that his son does not
actually practice law, though Bob says that his son is a lawyer and
lives several hundred miles away (from Bob).
It is not clear what Bob does himself. Bob might have applied to be the
janitor for the Flat Earth Society or the Amalgamated Tinfoil Hat
Makers union. He was probably rejected as under-qualified. During the
job interview, he might have hurled insults because he thought that was
the way to address the topic of job qualifications, as he tried to
cover-up his ignorance and lack of education and experience.
Thanks to David the Omrud for repeating the criticism made of Martin
Ambuhl, and for realizing that Martin is a notorious troll and a sock
puppet. David is not dreaming when David notes that a search of the web
reveals no educational degrees or accomplishments by Martin Ambuhl.
Martin is also incapable of doing the slightest research on the APA
website or any website. Note also that Martin is similar to other
trolls in that Martin did not actually contact the APA, because he
knows that the result would simply be even more public humiliation that
Martin advertises for himself.
Perhaps Martin should stop pretending some sort of educational or
research skills. Martin is similar to other trolls in that he does
deserve partial credit for not actually disputing any of the facts
stated
in Dr. Curry's work, but then, Martin was incapable of doing so. And
Martin is green with envy at the accomplishments of others,
Tinny Ray
broken-record spiel because they don't have anything in mind that they
want to accomplish. They just keep conceding that Dr. Rex Curry's work
is correct, because they have nothing on-topic to say, and at their
best they regurgitate the very propaganda at issue, as taught in
government schools (socialist schools). Tony Cooper is the most
comedic, as he openly babbles incoherently about the FBI picking up
thoughts from dental fillings, and Tony says "the objective is to get
the FBI to stop."
Then Tony goes from one oddball extreme to the other, following his FBI
delusions with his claims that "even if" Dr. Rex Curry's amazing
historical discoveries are correct, according to Tony then those
discoveries would not be "important."
Tony is trying to cover all the bases as he publicly humiliates
himself. He is too intellectually challenged to actually address the
topic or his "even if" because Tony knows that Tony has nothing to say,
he can only manage off-topic childish insults, and anything he does say
is wrong, so he hedges his bets by conceding that Dr. Curry's work
"might be" correct. He thinks it provides him with cover later. What
a boob.
Tinny Ray
group-chanting to flags, and the modern swastika symbol, as shown in
the research of the noted historian Dr. Rex Curry. The bizarre acts in
the USA began as early as 1875 and continued through the creation of
the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German Nazis or NSGWP).
The NSGWP had clear roots in National Socialism promoted by socialists
in the USA. Amazing graphic images that prove the point are at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that
require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools
(socialist schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations
of Americans from libertarians to authoritarians. The government
bamboozled individuals into believing that robotic group-chanting in
government schools is a beautiful expression of freedom. Frightening
photographs are at http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
Don Phillipson
news:1164634021.1...@45g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> The USA originated Nazism . . .
> The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws
This eccentric item is reposted from time to time. NB:
1. Subject line reference to the APA is bogus.
2. The poster purports to post from or via Florida.
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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
*Bill*
in which he does not actually dispute the topic. Don's comments are bogus.
Notice that he does not actually address any information cited in the web
page on the APA, nor evince that he has even read it.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Don also fails to mention ever contacting or even looking at the APA site.
Don just mouths off and in a transparent way.
This is what Don has conceded without dispute -
> --
> Don Phillipson
> Carlsbad Springs
> (Ottawa, Canada)Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Amethyst Deceiver
> Don Phillipson of Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) posts eccentric
Rex, this is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Sara Lorimer
> This eccentric item is reposted from time to time. NB:
> 1. Subject line reference to the APA is bogus.
> 2. The poster purports to post from or via Florida.
You think Tony's involved?
--
SML
Skitt
> "Tinny Ray" wrote:
>> The USA originated Nazism . . .
>> The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws
>
> This eccentric item is reposted from time to time. NB:
> 1. Subject line reference to the APA is bogus.
> 2. The poster purports to post from or via Florida.
Would you believe that the poster is a Tampa lawyer in good standing with
the Florida Bar? Hard to believe, isn't it?
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
http://www.geocities.com/opus731/
Martin Ambuhl
<pledge-of-...@earthlink.net>. Be sure to add it to your kill file.
Mike Lyle
Well, if Don's a newly-polished shiny silver-coloured kettle, I see
what you mean. We need a new expression to cover this kind of thing.
Thank you in advance for not disagreeing with me.
--
Mike.
*Bill*
with ANY Bar? Hard to believe, isn't it? In fact, Skitt is unemployed and
by his own confession he is an irresponsible and totally incompetent dude.
It is also interesting to note that "Amethyst" is a self-labeled deceiver,
and in her comments regarding Don Phillipson it is a clear case of the pot
calling the kettle black.
Skitt the incompetent and Amethyst the deceiver both post eccentric comments
in which they do not actually dispute the topic. Notice that they do not
actually address any information cited in the web page on the APA, nor
evince that they have even looked at it.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
They also fail to mention ever contacting or even looking at the APA site.
They just mouth off and in a transparent way.
This is what they has been conceded by Skitt the incompetent and Amethyst
the deceiver without dispute -
Amethyst Deceiver
> Would you believe that the poster Skitt is NOT a lawyer
Yes. He's never claimed to be a lawyer as far as I can remember.
Now, who are you, again?
Skitt
> *Bill* wrote:
>> Would you believe that the poster Skitt is NOT a lawyer
>
> Yes. He's never claimed to be a lawyer as far as I can remember.
Well, the way Rexy (Bill) put it, he finds it hard to believe that I'm not.
The closest I got to being one, though, was in my last nine months in the
Army, when I was ordered to "make like a lawyer". That was fun! Having a
civilian lawyer for a boss and mentor, not that I needed one, enabled me to
save several dogfaces from being railroaded by the military powers that be.
Tinny Ray
in 1917, influenced the use of the swastika symbol worldwide. As a
consequence, the swastika became an alphabetic symbol of socialism
around the world, where it had previously been a generic ancient
symbol.
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
The discoveries are in the growing body of work by the historian Dr.
Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets") who has previously shown how
socialists in the USA originated the modern swastika as overlapping "S"
letters for "Socialists" joining together in a utopian "Socialist
Society."
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
At the time that the 45th Infantry adopted the swastika, the symbol was
already being used as alphabetic symbolism for socialism in the
Theosophical Society, in the USA, from 1875. The symbol was also
widely popular as an ornamental "Good Luck" symbol, as in a 1915
postcard showing the American flag posed favorably with a swastika.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-flag2.JPG
The 45th Infantry adopted the symbol as alphabetic symbolism for
"Sooner Soldiers." The term "Sooners" refers to natives or residents of
Oklahoma, where the 45th Infantry originated. The term originated as a
reference to persons who settled homestead land in the western United
States before it was officially made available, in order to have first
choice of location.
The Sooner Soldiers' swastika was worn as a army shoulder patch in
World War I (Also see the book "The Swastika: Symbol Beyond Redemption"
by Steven Heller). At the time his book was written, Heller was not
aware of Dr. Curry's discoveries that the symbolism was adopted in 1918
by Soviet Socialists in World War I as a symbol for "Soviet Soldiers"
under the new "Soviet Socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav.jpg
Soviet Socialists even adopted the same color scheme and format: a
yellow swastika (flat and pointing clockwise) on a red diamond patch.
http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1919-1920cav-red-army-prikaz.jpg
Heller was also unaware of Dr. Curry's discovery that the Pledge of
Allegiance was the origin of the stiff-arm salute of the National
Socialist German Workers' Party.
It may be hard to believe for graduates/victims of government schools:
Americans wore swastika shoulder patches and used the striaght-arm
gesture, all before the same was done under the National Socialist
German Workers' Party. The USA was the origin of that behavior under
German National Socialism.
The straight-arm gesture had been spread in the USA by the government's
takeover of schools. Laws had been imposed that required children in
government schools (socialist schools) in the USA to robotically chant
the Pledge with the stiff-arm salute.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
Francis Bellamy created the pledge to the USA's flag (1892). The early
Pledge began with a military salute that then extended out toward the
flag into a straight-arm salute.
Francis Bellamy was cousin and cohort to Edward Bellamy, author of the
bible of National Socialism "Looking Backward" (1888) an international
bestseller. Edward Bellamy's National Socialism movement teamed up with
H. P. Blavatsky's Theosophical Society to spread the dogma worldwide.
Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society used the swastika as alphabetic
symbolism for their utopian "socialist society."
Both Bellamys were self-proclaimed socialists in the nationalism
movement in the USA, and they called their dogma "military socialism."
They wanted all of society to ape the military and they wanted the
government to take over all schools in order to create their
"industrial army" and spread their dogma through children.
It is important to remember that the above history would not have been
unknown to people associated with the 45th Infantry when the swastika
was adopted as its symbol, nor to other Americans who viewed the 45th
Infantry's new symbol. The symbol had also been used by the Boy Scouts.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html
The USA influenced the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the
National Socialist German Workers' Party, and the Peoples' Republic of
China in their flag fetishism, civilian salutes, military socialism,
the use of government schools (socialist schools), and robotic chanting
in worship of government and government officials.
The USA originated Nazi salutes, flag fetishism, Nazism, robotic
group-chanting to flags, and the modern swastika symbol, as shown in
the research of the noted historian Dr. Rex Curry. Amazing graphic
images that prove the point are linked at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
Both the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the National Socialist
German Workers' Party followed the socialist trend in the USA in using
the swastika as a symbol for socialism.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
It all resulted in the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was
a part): 65 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics; 49 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million
under the National Socialist German Workers' Party. The socialist
Wholecaust was the worst loss of human life in history.
Don Phillipson
> The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that
> require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools
> (socialist schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations
> of Americans from libertarians to authoritarians.
The poster would have you believe that American
school practice has within 12 years successfully
brainwashed the whole population. He can however
claim the virtue of consistency: he reposts the
same farrago every month or so regardless that it
has nothing to do with AUE topics.
John Kane
Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Tinny Ray" <be...@ij.net> wrote in message
> news:1166278617....@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that
> > require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools
> > (socialist schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations
> > of Americans from libertarians to authoritarians.
>
> The poster would have you believe that American
> school practice has within 12 years successfully
> brainwashed the whole population.
Well it sounds reasonable to me but then I'm Canadian.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
Skitt
> "Tinny Ray" wrote:
>> require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools
>> (socialist schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed
>> generations of Americans from libertarians to authoritarians.
>
> The poster would have you believe that American
> school practice has within 12 years successfully
> brainwashed the whole population. He can however
> claim the virtue of consistency: he reposts the
> same farrago every month or so regardless that it
> has nothing to do with AUE topics.
Well, that's Rexy. I think he can't help it, poor soul.
*Bill*
1907, influenced the use of the Nazi salute and the swastika symbol
worldwide. As a consequence, the swastika and the stiff-arm salute became
symbols of socialism around the world.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html
The discoveries are in the growing body of work by the historian Dr. Rex
Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets") who has previously shown how socialists
in the USA originated the modern swastika as overlapping "S" letters for
"Socialists" joining together in a utopian "Socialist Society." The
swastika symbol had previously been a generic ancient symbol.
Graduates/victims of government schools may find it hard to believe: scouts
used the swastika, the straight-arm gesture, robotic chanting, and uniform
dress, and they did it all decades before the same was done under the
National Socialist German Workers' Party. The USA was the origin of that
behavior under German National Socialism.
Photograph at
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouts-villefranche.jpg
During the time when Scouts adopted the swastika, the symbol was associated
in the USA with the growing popularity of paramilitarism and "military
socialism," a dogma touted by Edward Bellamy, the American author of the
international bestseller "Looking Backward," (1887) known as the bible of
National Socialism.
The symbol was also famous in the USA as alphabetical symbolism for
socialism in the Theosophical Society (TS), from 1875.
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
In 1888, the Theosophical Society teamed up with Bellamy's Nationalist
movement for military socialism. The Bellamy swastika spread.
By 1915, the symbol was also widely popular as an ornamental "Good Luck"
symbol, as in a 1915 postcard showing the American flag posed favorably with
a swastika. http://rexcurry.net/swastika-flag2.JPG
For more information on the swastika as alphabetical symbolism see
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hakenkreuz.html
The swastika was also adopted by American soldiers during World War I and
adorned shoulder patches, flags and American planes used to fought against
Germany.
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
Wikipedia is spreading the news about Dr. Curry's discoveries. Recent
articles at opinioneditorials.com report on the many references to Dr.
Curry's research and discoveries on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia founder Jimmy
"Jimbo" Wales has publicly noted Dr. Curry's influence on Wikipedia. Dr.
Curry's work has been covered and verified on Wikipedia. Some Wikipedia
writers use Dr. Curry's work without attribution in apparent attempts to
bolster their own credibility.
The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) is a United States Scouting organization,
with some presence in other countries. The BSA is the largest youth
organization in the United States; over one hundred million Americans have
been members. Founded in the USA in 1910, the movement had a registered
membership of 2,938,698 youth with 1,146,130 leaders in 122,582 units as of
the end of 2005.
The BSA sprang from the concerns of the socialist movement in the United
States. It was a concern that grew from the military socialism of Francis
Bellamy and Edward Bellamy. The BSA adheres to the Scout method to teach
values such as patriotism, citizenship, and outdoorsmanship through a
variety of activities, including outdoor activities.
The BSA utilizes uniforms and advancement in rank similar to the military.
The BSA operates through units such as troops, packs, and crews.
The socialist movement in the United States was at its height during the
early twentieth century. Socialists were concerned that young men had too
much individualism and were not learning patriotism, citizenship, and
self-sacrifice. The Young Mens Christian Association (YMCA) was an early
promoter. Baden-Powell started Scouting in 1907 and the movement began to
grow.
In 1909, Chicago publisher W. D. Boyce was visiting London, England where he
learned of the Scouting movement. Upon his return to the US, Boyce
incorporated the Boy Scouts of America on February 8, 1910. The YMCA became
interested in the nascent BSA program and provided support.
The Pledge of Allegiance salute was adopted in scouting as shown in 1934
photos. A further description is below.
Photograph at http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouts.jpg
The original Pledge of Allegiance was created in 1892. The early Pledge of
Allegiance used a straight-arm salute that was the origin of the salute used
later by the horrid National Socialist German Workers' Party. The USA was
the origin of the Nazi salute, robotic group-chanting to flags, Nazism, flag
fetishism, and the modern swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism," as
shown in they research of the noted historian Dr. Rex Curry.
The original first printing of the Boy's Cubbook in 1930 still showed the
use of the stiff-arm salutes by Scouts.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting-cubbook-wolf1930.JPG
This printing was recalled after release by BSA to change to the Cub Scout
salute (on page 23). The reason is found in the History of Cub Scouting,
published by BSA in 1987. This is a quote from page 13: "The Boy's Cubbook
for Wolf rank was published while the first packs were being chartered in
April 1930. It was quickly revised to change the Cub salute. In the
original edition, the salute was the Indian sign for peace, with right arm
upraised, palm out. Apparently leaders saw that the salute was
disconceertingly similar to the Nazi salute of Adolf Hitler, who was
beginning his rise to power in Germany enroute to engulfing the world in
war. The new salute was the familar two-fingered touch of the right hand to
the forehead." The 1987 explanation is almost as inaccurate as the original
1930 book in repeating the American-Indian myth, and showing complete
ignorance of the use of the gesture in the early Pledge of Allegiance.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting-cubbook-wolf1930b.JPG
BSA destroyed whatever original printings they had.
Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts still use a remnant of the early Pledge of
Allegiance. Scouts use a military-style salute that developed from the
initial military salute of the Pledge. A stereotypical Scout website states
that scouts should memorize the pledge, that the "denner" (den leader)
should lead the group in the pledge at meetings, and the web site mimics
government schools by providing the usual shallow propaganda about Francis
Bellamy and the Pledge
The original pledge began with a military salute that then stretched out
toward the flag. In actual use, the second part of the gesture was performed
with a straight arm and palm down by children casually performing the forced
ritual chanting. Professor Curry showed that, due to the way that both
gestures were used sequentially in the pledge, the military salute led to
the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute via the
USA's pledge.
Francis Bellamy (author of the "Pledge of Allegiance") and Edward Bellamy
(author of the novel "Looking Backward") and Charles Bellamy (author of "A
Moment of Madness") and Frederick Bellamy (who introduced Edward to
socialistic "Fourierism") were socialists. Edward, Charles and Frederick
were brothers, and Francis was their cousin. Francis and Edward were both
self-proclaimed National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism"
movement in the USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, and the "Nationalist
Educational Association." Edward inspired the "Nationalist Party" (in the
USA) and their dogma influenced socialists worldwide (including Germany) via
"Nationalist Clubs." They touted their dogma of "military socialism" and the
"industrial army" because they wanted all of society to ape the military.
This may be hard to believe for graduates/victims of government schools:
Americans wore swastika shoulder patches and used the striaght-arm gesture,
all before the same was done under the National Socialist German Workers'
Party. The USA was the origin of that behavior under German National
Socialism.
It is worth noting that Americans still use the greeting "hello" as they did
then, and it is related to the German greeting "Heil" and thus to "Heil
Hitler." The term "hello" is used for hailing people and is related to the
phrase "Hail to the chief," and to these words: hail, heal, health. It is
also related to the term "salud," meaning "health," and thus to the term
"salute" and the act of saluting, which included the manner of saying
"hello."
The straight-arm gesture had been spread in the USA by the government's
takeover of schools. Laws had been imposed that required children in
government schools (socialist schools) in the USA to robotically chant the
Pledge with the stiff-arm salute.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
Francis Bellamy created the pledge to the USA's flag (1892). The early
Pledge began with a military salute that then extended out toward the flag
into a straight-arm salute.
Francis Bellamy was cousin and cohort to Edward Bellamy, author of the bible
of National Socialism "Looking Backward" (1888) an international bestseller.
Edward Bellamy's National Socialism movement teamed up with H. P.
Blavatsky's Theosophical Society to spread the dogma worldwide. Blavatsky
and the Theosophical Society used the swastika as alphabetic symbolism for
their utopian "socialist society."
The Bellamy swastika and Bellamy salute spread globally.
Both Bellamys were self-proclaimed socialists in the nationalism movement in
the USA, and they called their dogma "military socialism." They wanted all
of society to ape the military and they wanted the government to take over
all schools in order to create their "industrial army" and spread their
dogma through children.
It is important to remember that the above history would not have been
unknown to people associated with the 45th Infantry when the swastika was
adopted as its symbol, nor to other Americans who viewed the 45th Infantry's
new symbol.
The USA influenced the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the National
Socialist German Workers' Party, and the Peoples' Republic of China in their
flag fetishism, civilian salutes, military socialism, the use of government
schools (socialist schools), and robotic chanting in worship of government
and government officials.
The USA originated Nazi salutes, flag fetishism, Nazism, robotic
group-chanting to flags, and the modern swastika symbol, as shown in the
research of the noted historian Dr. Rex Curry. Amazing graphic images that
prove the point are linked at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
Both the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the National Socialist
German Workers' Party followed the socialist trend in the USA in using the
swastika as a symbol for socialism.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
It all resulted in the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a
part): 65 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics;
49 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21 million under the
National Socialist German Workers' Party. The socialist Wholecaust was the
worst loss of human life in history.
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require
*Bill*
Swastika" that stated on each cover "Written, Issued and Read by THE GIRLS'
CLUB." Each cover was also adorned with two swastikas in the S-letter
orientation. The October 14, 1914 cover shows a swastika flag. The February
1916 cover shows a girl wearing a hat adorned with a swastika. The
membership pin for the Girls' Club was a swastika.
Tinny Ray
their symbol early in World War I, and up to 1941, against Germany.
The symbol was used by Americans in the French Escadrille Lafayette,
by the 45th Infantry Divison, and on Boeing P-12 airplanes. http://
rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
The discoveries are in the growing body of work by the historian Dr.
Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets"). He has previously shown how
socialists in the USA originated the modern swastika as overlapping
"S" letters for "Socialists" joining together in a utopian "Socialist
Society."
During the time when American soldiers adopted the swastika, the
symbol was associated in the USA with the growing popularity of
"military socialism," a dogma touted by Edward Bellamy, the American
author of the international bestseller "Looking Backward," (1887)
known as the bible of National Socialism.
The symbol was also famous in the USA as alphabetical symbolism for
socialism in the Theosophical Society (TS), from 1875. http://
rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
see http://rexcurry.net/swastika-flag2.JPG
In 1888, the Theosophical Society teamed up with Bellamy's Nationalist
movement for military socialism. The "Bellamy swastika" spread.
By 1915, the symbol was also widely popular as an ornamental "Good
Luck" symbol, as in a 1915 postcard showing the American flag posed
favorably with a swastika. http://rexcurry.net/swastika-flag2.JPG
For more information on the swastika as alphabetical symbolism see
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hakenkreuz.html
By adopting the symbol, American soldiers influenced the swastika as
an alphabetic symbol of socialism around the world, where the symbol
had previously been a generic ancient symbol.
Graduates/victims of government schools may find it hard to believe:
Americans used the straight-arm gesture, wore swastika shoulder
patches and flew planes adorned with swastikas in war against Germany,
and they did it all decades before the same was done under the
National Socialist German Workers' Party. The USA was the origin of
that behavior under German National Socialism.
See the following pictures: American Swastika on Boeing P-12 circa
1928 to 1941
http://rexcurry.net/american-swastika-WWII-1929to1932-1941Boeing-P-12-F4B.jpg
American Swastika Guerre Aerienne Lafayette Escadrille
http://rexcurry.net/american-swastika-guerre-aerienne-lafayette-
escadrille-c1917.jpg
Escadrille Top Ace Raul Lufberry swastika image http://rexcurry.net/
american-swastika-escadrille-top-ace-raul-lufberry.jpg
Lafayette Escadrille Americaine Swastika picture http://rexcurry.net/
american-sioux-swastika-escadrille-la-fayette.jpg
"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"
about the Soviet Socialist swastika. Although it was an ancient symbol, it
was used by socialists in modern times as S-symbolism for "socialism." Dr.
Curry's work is probably the most referenced historical research on
Wikipedia. http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika-cccp-sssr.html
The discoveries are shown in Soviet Socialist banknotes that show swastikas.
One of those notes is a 250 ruble note.
http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swastika1917-250a.JPG
The designer of that banknote was an ethnic Latvian Rihards Zarins (he
spelled his name: Zarrins) (1869-1939). He was the technical director of the
Soviet Socialist State printing house, where the banknotes were printed.
Later he designed the first postage stamps of the Soviet Soviet State. In
1919 he returned to Latvia and created designs of paper money, postage
stamps, certificates and more. He enjoyed the symbolism of the swastika and
he used it frequently, as in the banknote mentioned.
The Soviet socialist state at that time was known as the "PCOCP" which, with
slight alteration, became simply "CCCP" (USSR or Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics). Transliterated it is known also as the R.S.F.S.R., the Russian
Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (aka Russian Soviet Federated Socialist
Republic) (??????????? ?????????? ????????????? ?????????????????
???????????, ?????).
It is relevant to note that the Soviet socialist state's abbreviations have
the pattern of double letters in PP, CC and SS. Hence, the double S letters
of the Soviet socialist state's swastika stand for "Soviet Socialist" (the
corresponding letters in RSFSR).
The RSFSR began in 1917 and was the largest and most populous of the fifteen
former republics of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, which became
known as the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in December 1922. The
Russian SFSR became the modern day Russia after the collapse of the USSR,
officially dissolved on December 31, 1991.
The amazing discoveries in Dr. Curry's work have been discussed by members
of the group Flags Of The World, a well-known group in the field of
vexillology (the study of flags). Dr. Rex Curry's historical discoveries
have been recognized by members of Flags Of The World Group (FOTW) and
members of other vexillological groups. The acknowledgment occurred when the
president of the group conceded defeat in a scholarly debate challenge about
Dr. Curry's news-making work.
http://rexcurry.net/fotw-flags-of-the-world-vexillology.html
The Flags of the World web site contained an error. A fan of RexCurry.net
wrote in to point out an error on the Flags of the World web site that has
caused confusion among members of the North American Vexillological
Association. The error is at http://fotw.vexillum.com/flags/lv%5Eair.html
That web page attempts to provide information about Latvia's Airforce Flag
and Aircraft Marking and shows a swastika symbol (45 degrees to the
horizontal and pointed clockwise) with the headline "1918-1940." That
seeming error caused some members of the North American Vexillological
Association to incorrectly believe that the symbol was always 45 degrees to
the horizontal (as if in a diamond orientation). One NAVA member said "I
checked Latvia's Air Force markings 1918-1940 and found a red swastika on
its point (as in the National Socialist German Workers' Party) on white." A
more searching review of the links on that FOTW page shows that the swastika
symbol on Latvian planes originally was on its side (with horizontal
orientation) and not 45 degrees to the horizontal. It is unclear from FOTW,
and the links, when and why the change occurred in Latvia from 1918-1940.
A fan writes, "It is interesting to note that a lot of the pictures
available through the FOTW reference are only illustrations and not
photographs. One illustration did note the change in the markings. Also
interesting to note that the planes seem to be German, mostly or
exclusively? And that in 1920 they were being used against the Union of
Soviet Socialist Republics. There was also a response about Finland's use of
the swastika. Can anyone provide more information about when Finland first
used the symbol on its planes, why, and where the plane(s) came from? Was it
a German source also?"
The NAVA members who referenced the FOTW web page provided more support for
Dr. Curry's work showing that the swastika was used to represent overlapping
"S" letters for "socialism" under the National Socialist German Workers'
Party and in the Soviet Socialist State.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
Gary G. Taylor
> The error is at http://fotw.vexillum.com/flags/lv%5Eair.html
Just tried going there: 404.
--
Gary G. Taylor * Pomona, CA * 34.074630°N 117.754195°W
knotgary at knotdonavan dot org http : // www.donavan.org
"The two most abundant substances in the Universe are hydrogen
and stupidity." --Frank Zappa, R.A. Heinlein and many others
"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/lv%5Eair.html
They also created more wiggle room via their links (due to the criticism)
though it is still quite misleading, especially on the initial page.
Tinny Ray
swastika's modern use as overlapping S-shapes for "Socialism." The
column, which exposed the British Union of Fascists and National
Socialists and its logo (an S-shaped lightning bolt for "Socialists")
led to new discoveries regarding symbolism in the Peoples Action Party
(PAP) of Singapore.
http://rexcurry.net/peoples-action-party-pap-singapore-socialism.html
The PAP began as a socialist party and adopted as its logo the same S-
shaped symbolism of the British Union of Fascists and National
Socialists (BUFNS). The noted historian Dr. Rex Curry (author of
"Swastika Secrets") has established that the PAP's logo originated as
an "S" letter for "Socialists."
http://rexcurry.net/british-union-of-fascists-sir-oswald-mosley.html
Wikipedia is announcing the amazing discoveries concerning the PAP and
the BUFNS. Recent articles at opinioneditorials.com report on the many
references to the research on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia's founder
Jimbo Wales has publicly commented on Dr. Curry's influence on
Wikipedia. His work is probably the most referenced historical
research on Wikipedia. The work has been reviewed and verified by
wikipedia writers. Some Wikipedia writers use Dr. Curry's work without
attribution in apparent attempts to bolster their own credibility.
Of course, Wikipedia is a glorified anonymous bulletin board and is
constantly changed, often at the hands of vandals and even neo-nazis.
A recent web search for "British Union of Fascists and National
Socialists" showed Dr. Curry's work at the top and indicated that no
wikipedia article exists. Wikipedia gives the mis-impression that the
BUFNS never existed, or that its name-change never occurred. It is
common comic revisionist history air-brushed at wakipedia.
Amazon.com adopted as its policies recommendations advocated by Dr.
Curry to combat neo nazism like that on wikipedia.
http://rexcurry.net/amazon-com-book-reviews-tags-discussions.html
The PAP smeared its way onto the political scene in 1954 when it was
formed by English-educated middle-class men who had returned to
Singapore from Britain. The PAP became a member of the Socialist
International. The PAP logo has a double connotation for "Singapore
Socialists." The S-letter is red and thereby consistent with the
socialist symbolism of the color under German socialism, Soviet
socialism, and Chinese socialism.
http://rexcurry.net/peoples_action_party_pap_logo_singapore_socialist_swastikas.gif
The PAP's logo supports Dr. Curry's discovery that the swastika was
used as alphabetic symbolism for overlapping "S" letters for
"socialism" under the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika3clear.jpg
In the early 1950's, when the socialist symbolism was adopted in
Singapore, the leader of the BUFNS (Oswald Mosley) was trying to
revive his socialist movement in Britain and was still using the same
S-shaped symbol for socialism in his Union Movement (UM). Mosley had
returned to the leadership of British national socialism by founding
the UM in 1948 at a meeting in London's Farringdon Hall, where as many
as fifty one separate groups came under the new umbrella. Mosley re-
emerged as a candidate in 1959 in North Kensington (which included
Notting Hill), in the first parliamentary election for him since 1931.
There is evidence that the PAP also adopted the stiff-arm salute of
the National Socialists.
http://rexcurry.net/peoples-action-party-pap-singapore-nazi-salute.jpg
The gesture originated from national socialists in the United States
in 1892 from the original Pledge of Allegiance written by Francis
Bellamy, as shown in the historical discoveries of Dr. Rex Curry. It
was part of a scheme for government to take over all education and to
place flags over each school, and to compel robotic chanting daily in
worship of government for twelve years of every child's life. It still
occurs today in some oddball states in the USA, though the gesture has
changed.
>From national socialists in the USA, the straight-arm salute spread
worldwide to: the National Socialists German Workers' Party; the
former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; the British Union of
Fascists and National Socialists; the Peoples' Action Party; the
Peoples' Republic of China. The American salute is still used in
Russia and in the Peoples' Republic of China and elsewhere.
http://rexcurry.net/nazi-salute-taipei-times-roc-republic-of-china-government-officials-sworn.jpg
Behind it was the same dogma that led to the socialist Wholecaust (of
which the Holocaust was a part): 60 million slaughtered under the
former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 50 million under the
Peoples' Republic of China; 20 million under the National Socialist
German Workers' Party. It was the worst slaughter in the history of
the world. It was so bad that Holocaust Museums could quintuple in
size by including Wholecaust museums.
The Peoples' Action Party continues to share goals with socialists in
China.
http://rexcurry.net/peoples-action-party-china-pap-yp.jpg
The PAP eventually played copycat to the United States again in
adopting a hand-over-the-heart gesture. PAP members continue to wear
uniforms at their Party meetings, dressing all in the same color and
clothing.
http://rexcurry.net/peoples-action-party-yps-pap.jpg
The PAP initially adopted a traditional socialist party organization
together with a vanguard cadre from its socialist-leaning faction in
1958. The PAP formed a joint alliance with the so-called communists
against colonialism in Singapore during the party's early years.
Today, the PAP considers itself as subscribing to socialist
ideologies. The PAP has been the ruling political party in Singapore
since 1959 and thus has a large role in the formation of the
government of Singapore. From the 1963 general elections onwards, the
PAP has dominated Singapore's parliament and politics. The PAP has
held the overwhelming majority of seats in Parliament since 1966, when
the opposition Barisan Sosialis (Socialist Front), another socialist
group that split from PAP in 1961, resigned from Parliament after
winning 13 seats following the 1963 state elections, which itself
occurred months after a number of their leaders had been arrested in
Operation Coldstore. The resignation left the PAP as the only major
political party.
In 1976 the PAP resigned from the Socialist International, after the
Dutch Labour Party had proposed to expel the party.
In January 1991, the PAP introduced the White Paper on Shared Values,
which tried to create a national ideology and institutionalize Asian
values. The party also has 'rejected' what they considered Western-
style liberal democracy.
In the 2006 Singapore general election, the PAP won 82 of the 84
elected seats in the Parliament of Singapore.
During the PAP's existence, the socialist dogma of Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics caused the USSR to collapse internally. That, and
other developments, have educated people about the horrors of the
socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part).
In spite of socialist dogma of political parties like the PAP, free-
markets have continued to grow and prosper. Singapore frequently ranks
extremely highly on indices of "economic freedom."
Lee Kuan Yew has also said in 1992: "Through Hong Kong watching, I
concluded that state welfare and subsidies blunted the individual's
drive to succeed. I watched with amazement the ease with which Hong
Kong workers adjusted their salaries upwards in boom times and
downwards in recessions." Yew resolved to reverse course on the
welfare policies which his socialist dogma had inherited or copied
from British socialists.
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that
require robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools
(socialist schools) every day for 12 years.
The Bellamys promoted a government takeover of schools, the placement
of flags at schools, and robotic chanting of the pledge to the flag
with the old notorious gesture. When the government granted their
wishes, the government schools imposed segregation by law and taught
racism as official government policy. The schools mandated the robotic
chanting of the pledge with the straight-arm salute and persecuted and
expelled children who would not comply, arrested parents, and even
took children from parents on allegations of "unfit parenting." There
were acts of violence and lynchings.
The USA still follows similar anti libertarian policies promoted by
the Bellamys. Many socialist policies caused the USA's big, expensive,
oppressive government, its aggressive military socialism, and its
growing police state. It caused the Great Socialist Depression (from
the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act 1930 etc)
that persisted and even lasted through U.S. involvement in WWII. The
Pledge still exists along with laws mandating that teachers lead the
robotic chanting every day for twelve years of each child's life
(though the salute was altered). The government still owns and
operates schools, including the same schools that imposed segregation
by law and taught racism as official government policy. That policy
even outlasted the National Socialist German Workers' Party by over 15
years. After segregation in government's schools ended, the Bellamy
legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed
communities and neighborhoods, and deepened hostilities. Those schools
still exist. Infants are given social security numbers (socialist
slave numbers from 1935 during the NSGWP) that track and tax everyone
for life. Government schools (socialist schools) demand the numbers
for enrollment.
The pledge and the flag have become examples of how dangerous
government schools are (and how dangerous government is in general).
The brainwashing ritual has indoctrinated many students of government
schools with national socialist propaganda.
**************
Support for Dr. Curry's discoveries also comes from the Oxford English
Dictionary (OED).
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html
Support also comes from the web site of the American Philological
Association.
http://rexcurry.net/american-philological-association-apa.html
Dr. Curry's work has been recognized in the vexillological group Flags
Of The World (FOTW).
http://rexcurry.net/fotw-flags-of-the-world-vexillology.html
Similar recognition occurred in the flag group North American
Vexillological Association (NAVA). http://rexcurry.net/north-american-vexillological-association-nava.html
Dr. Curry's news-making work is discussed on Odeo Radio.
http://odeo.com/audio/1747108/view
The discoveries are on Radio Indymedia.
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/08/10827.php
And also covered at Opinion Editorials at
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/writer.php?id=rcurry
With more at OpinionEditorials at
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20050826.html
For a long time, Dr. Curry has exposed widespread ignorance in the
media and in the general public about what the 4-letter abbreviation
abbreviates. That etymological ignorance has grown through overuse of
the hackneyed shorthand term in print and in government schools
(socialist schools). Dr. Curry advocated that the shorthand term
should be avoided, unless it is used in conjunction with the full
actual name of the Party. Amazon is helping Dr. Curry to reverse the
ignorant habit within the media and the public, as reported in Opinion
Editorials.
http://www.opinioneditorials.com/guestcontributors/rcurry_20061027.html
All of the above explains why the following is a common warning on the
web -
DO NOT CITE WIKIPEDIA - DON'T CITE WIKIPEDIA
Colleges, schools and news media warn writers not to cite wikipedia as
a source. A google search for "DO NOT CITE WIKIPEDIA" and "DON'T CITE
WIKIPEDIA" provides many examples. Rather than a scholarly source,
wikipedia is an anonymous bulletin board where anyone can delete
truthful information, where anyone can post lies, and people who want
to re-post the truth can be blocked to prevent future corrections.
"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"
the Pledge of Allegiance. The group known as STP ("Stop The Pledge") is at
the links below.
The group argues that socialists in the USA originated the Nazi salute,
robotic group-chanting to flags, Nazism, flag fetishism, and the modern
swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism." http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
Much of that history is the history of the Pledge Of Allegiance.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg Pledge Of
Allegiance photographs expose America's terrifying past.
Those historical facts explain the enormous size and scope of government
today, and the USA's growing police state. They are reasons for massive
reductions in government, taxation, spending and socialism.
The "Nazi salute" is more accurately called the "American salute" as it was
created and popularized by national socialists in the USA. It was the early
salute of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge was written by Francis
Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgetragedy.html Francis Bellamy was cousin
and cohort of Edward Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgebackward.html Edward
Bellamy and Francis Bellamy were self-proclaimed socialists in the
Nationalism movement and they promoted military socialism.
The Pledge was mandated by law in government schools for three decades
before, and through, the creation of the National Socialist German Workers'
Party. http://rexcurry.net/bellamy-edward-karl-marx.html
see photo of Pledge of Allegiance
http://rexcurry.net/USA-pledge-of-allegiance-rexcurrydotnet.jpg Pledge of
Allegiance.
Many people do not know that the term "Nazi" means "National Socialist
German Workers' Party." Members of the horrid group did not call themselves
Nazis. In that sense, there was no Nazi Party. They also did not call
themselves Fascists. They called themselves socialists, just as their name
indicates.
The historian Dr. Rex Curry showed that the early Pledge Of Allegiance did
not use an ancient Roman salute, and that the 'ancient Roman salute' myth
came from the Pledge Of Allegiance." The discoveries have been reviewed and
verified on wikipedia
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-metropolitan-museum-of-art.html
The original pledge was anti libertarian and began with a military salute
that then stretched out toward the flag. In actual use, the second part of
the gesture was performed with a straight arm and palm down by children
casually performing the forced ritual chanting. Due to the way that both
gestures were used sequentially in the pledge, the military salute led to
the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute via the
USA's Pledge Of Allegiance.
Media coverage about the discoveries continues to grow
http://rexcurry.net/audio-rex-curry-podcast-radio.html
Fan mail for work exposing the Pledge's poisonous pedigree is at
http://rexcurry.net/pledge_heart.html
And listen at http://odeo.com/audio/1747108/view
The Pledge's early salute caused quite a Fuhrer/furor. The dogma behind the
Pledge was the same dogma that led to the socialist Wholecost (of which the
Holocaust was a part): 62 million slaughtered under the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics; 49 million under the Peoples' Republic of China; 21
million under the National Socialist German Workers' Party. It was the worst
slaughter of humanity ever.
People were persecuted (beatings, lynchings, etc) for refusing to perform
robotic chanting to the national flag at the same time in government schools
in the USA and Germany (to the American flag, and to the German swastika
flag).
American socialists (Edward Bellamy teamed with the Theosophical Society)
also bear some blame for the modern swastika
http://rexcurry.net/swastika3clear.jpg Swastikas became overlapping
S-letters for "socialism," all shown in the research of the noted
symbologist Dr. Rex Curry. Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, its
use was altered to alphabetic symbolism in modern times.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html As German socialism's
notorious flag symbol, the swastika was deliberately turned 45 degrees to
the horizontal and always oriented in the S-direction. Similar alphabetic
symbolism is still visible as Volkswagen logos.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-audi-logo.JPG
The bizarre acts in the USA began as early as 1875 and continued through the
creation of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German Nazis or
NSGWP). American soldiers used the swastika symbol in WWI (against Germany)
and the symbol was used by the American military during WWII.
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html
The NSGWP had clear roots in National Socialism promoted by socialists in
the USA. Amazing graphic images that prove the point are at
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html
The USA is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that require
robotic chanting to a national flag in government schools (socialist
schools) every day for 12 years. It has changed generations of Americans
from libertarians to authoritarians. The government bamboozled individuals
into believing that collective robotic chanting in government schools daily
Peter Moylan
> chanting the Pledge of Allegiance. The group known as STP ("Stop The
> Pledge") is at the links below.
At first sight, it appears that there could be valid arguments for this.
> The group argues that socialists in the USA originated the Nazi
> salute, robotic group-chanting to flags, Nazism, flag fetishism, and
> the modern swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism."
> http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
This second paragraph, however, made me realise that we're dealing with
a bunch of crackpots.
<remainder snipped unread>
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Please note the changed e-mail and web addresses. The domain
eepjm.newcastle.edu.au no longer exists, and I can no longer
receive mail at my newcastle.edu.au addresses. The optusnet
address could disappear at any time.
Martin Ambuhl
> This second paragraph, however, made me realise that we're dealing with
> a bunch of crackpots.
I thought everyone had Rex killfiled by now. You are about to be the
object of one of his robotic "I'm glad you agree with me" posts.
"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"
and the modern swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg Pledge Of
Allegiance photographs expose America's terrifying past.
Those historical facts explain the enormous size and scope of government
today, and the USA's growing police state. They are reasons for massive
reductions in government, taxation, spending and socialism.
The "Nazi salute" is more accurately called the "American salute" as it was
created and popularized by national socialists in the USA. It was the early
salute of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge was written by Francis
Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgetragedy.html Francis Bellamy was cousin
and cohort of Edward Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgebackward.html Edward
Bellamy and Francis Bellamy were self-proclaimed socialists in the
Nationalism movement and they promoted military socialism.
They wanted the government to take over education and use it to spread their
worship of government. When the government granted their wish, the
government's schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as
official policy. The official racism and segregation was a bad example three
decades before the National Socialist German Workers Party, and decades
afterward.
At first sight, it appeared that there could be valid arguments made by
Peter Moylan.
Peter Moylan's second paragraph, however, made me realise that Peter Moylan
is another cohort with
a bunch of intellectually dishonest crackpots who don't (can't) dispute a
word stated because they know its correct.
<Peter Moylan's remainder snipped unread>
"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"
and the modern swastika as "S" symbolism for "Socialism."
http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegiance-pledge-allegiance.jpg Pledge Of
Allegiance photographs expose America's terrifying past.
Those historical facts explain the enormous size and scope of government
today, and the USA's growing police state. They are reasons for massive
reductions in government, taxation, spending and socialism.
The "Nazi salute" is more accurately called the "American salute" as it was
created and popularized by national socialists in the USA. It was the early
salute of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge was written by Francis
Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgetragedy.html Francis Bellamy was cousin
and cohort of Edward Bellamy. http://rexcurry.net/pledgebackward.html Edward
Bellamy and Francis Bellamy were self-proclaimed socialists in the
Nationalism movement and they promoted military socialism.
They wanted the government to take over education and use it to spread their
worship of government. When the government granted their wish, the
government's schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as
official policy. The official racism and segregation was a bad example three
decades before the National Socialist German Workers Party, and decades
afterward.
Everyone thought that Martin Ambuhl had been killfiled by now by all.
Everyone is about to be the object of Martin Ambuhl's robotic "I know that
Dr. Rex Curry's work is correct, but all I can do is post childish off-topic
remarks to cover up my ignorance, jealousy and envy" posts for which Martin
Ambuhl is pathetically infamous.
At first sight, it appeared that there could be valid arguments made by
Peter Moylan. Peter Moylan's second paragraph, however, made everyone
realise that Peter Moylan is another cohort with a bunch of intellectually
dishonest crackpots who don't (can't) dispute a word stated because they
know its correct. <Peter Moylan's remainder snipped unread> Peter Moylan
already sounds like a Martin Ambuhl clone or sock puppet.
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zak alt
> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
> texts and civilizations, often concentrating on Rome and Greece. Some
> researchers examine the influence of Rome upon American government and
> society, and they fear the totalitarian system that led to Rome's
> scope of government in the USA and its growing police state.
> Philology has gained some amazing recent discoveries. Recently, the
> noted philologer Dr. Rex Curry proved that the so-called "ancient Roman
> it originated in the USA's early Pledge of Allegiance (1892).
> Philologist Curry showed that the USA's early pledge of allegiance to
> the flag used a straight-arm salute and it was the source of the salute
> of the monstrous German National Socialists. The "ancient Roman salute"
> is a modern myth that grew during and after the lives of Edward Bellamy
> (1850-1898) and Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). The myth is still
> repeated in efforts to cover-up Dr. Curry's ground-breaking work.
> http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
> Information from the American Philological Association (APA) supports
> Dr. Rex Curry's work. The American Philological Association (APA),
> founded in 1869 by "professors, friends, and patrons of linguistic
> science," is now the principal learned society in North America for the
> study of ancient Greek and Roman languages, literatures, and
> civilizations.
> An abstract from the APA states that the raised-arm salute was used in
> fictional Roman scenes in these films: the American "Ben-Hur" (1907),
> the Italian "Nerone" (1908), "Spartaco" (1914), and "Cabiria" (1914).
> Those scenes helped lead to the "Roman salute" myth. Dr. Curry pointed
> the source of the salute used in the films.
> Dictionary (OED).
> http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html
> Heinrich Schliemann. In 1873, he excavated what he believed to be Troy.
> Troy is a legendary city, described in the Iliad, one of the two epic
> poems attributed to Homer and it influenced Rome.
> Schleimann found examples of the swastika symbol during his exploration
> of Troy, and his discovery later influenced the use of the symbol in
> the NSGWP. Over a century after Schleimann's work, there was another
> symbol, it was also used sometimes by the National Socialist German
> to the horizontal and oriented it to always point clockwise. Although
> Socialists to represent overlapping S-shaped figures for their
> "socialism." He altered his own signature to use the same symbolism and
> similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens. Similar to a
> Roman Standard, he put it on the national flag and turned it into a
> military rallying point.
> http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
> The symbol was used in a war worse than a thousand Trojan Wars. In
> divide up Europe. The socialist philosophy had similarities to Rome in
> glorifying the military, authoritarianism, slavery and conquest and it
> led to the worst slaughter of humanity ever. How many people died in
> the Trojan War? Few compared to the number killed in the socialist
> Socialist Republics (62 million dead), the Peoples' Republic of China
> million dead).
> Many books attribute large Roman influence upon Germany and the United
> States. One parallel between the three is that they both developed
> large authoritarian governments. The present government in the USA is
> anti libertarian and is out-socializing the previous administration by
> more than double and growing (in social spending ALONE).
> Another parallel between Germany and Rome is that they both persecuted
> people who did not adopt the official dogma. Specific groups of people
> were persecuted in Rome and Germany.
> It helps to show how close the USA moved toward (and is still moving
> toward) the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part).
> Many Americans serve as sad examples of how authoritarian governments
> come into existence, grow so large, last so long, and kill so many. The
> dogma of socialism and human sacrifice is still growing all over the
> world.
> expensive and oppressive government and its growing police-state. It
> 1913, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act 1930 etc) that persisted and even
> lasted through U.S. involvement in WWII. The Pledge still exists along
> was altered). The government still owns and operates schools, including
> by law in government schools and teaching racism as official policy
> years. After segregation in government's schools ended, the Bellamy
> legacy caused more police-state racism of forced busing that destroyed
NEW LENIN’S SWASTIKA REVELATION: Vladimir Lenin’s swastika is exposed herein. The impact of Lenin’s swastikas was reinforced at that time with additional swastikas on ruble money (paper currency). The swastika became a symbol of socialism under Lenin. It’s influence upon Adolf Hitler is explained in this book. Lenin’s swastika evolved into the Communist swastika. It was four “C”-letter shapes merged to form a swastika. Communism’s swastika was inspired by the “CCCP” acronym and by swastikas on Soviet socialism’s ruble currency that signified “S”-letter shapes for “Soviet Socialism” (from “SSSR”). See an image of the communist swastika here in the book "Hitler Was A Communist" https://www.amazon.com/Hitler-was-Communist-Ian-Tinny-ebook/dp/B09XFKJTL9
9. The term “swastika” never appears in the original Mein Kampf.
10. There is no evidence that Hitler ever used the word “swastika.”
11. The symbol that Hitler did use was intended to represent “S”-letter shapes for “socialist.”
12. NEW SWASTIKA DISCOVERY: Hitler’s symbol is the reason why Hitler renamed his political party from DAP to NSDAP - "National Socialist German Workers Party" - because he needed the word "Socialist" in his party's name so that Hitler could use swastikas as "S"-letter shaped logos for "SOCIALIST" as the party's emblem. The party's name had to fit in Hitler's socialist branding campaign that used the swastika and many other similar alphabetical symbols, including the “SS” and “SA” and “NSV” and “VW” etc. He was selling socialism by selling flags and related merchandise. It resembled the advertising campaign of the American socialist Francis Bellamy. The “new discovery” part includes the fact that the public doesn’t know that Hitler’s use of the swastika as alphabetical symbolism is a reason why he changed the name of the party (adding the word “socialist”). The new discovery is also that it is additional proof that Hitler employed the swastika as alphabetical symbolism of “S”-letter shapes for his socialism. The discoveries are from the Swastikologist Dr. Rex Curry’s work.
14. Hitler altered his own signature to reflect his “S-shapes for socialism” logo branding.
15. Mussolini was a long-time socialist leader, with a socialist background, raised by socialists to be a socialist, and he joined socialists known as “fascio, fasci, and fascisti.”
16. Fascism came from a socialist (e.g. Mussolini). Communism came from a socialist (e.g. Marx). Fascism and Communism came from socialists.
17. German socialists and Soviet socialists partnered for International Socialism in 1939. They launched WWII, invading Poland together, and continued onward from there, killing millions. Soviet socialism had signed on for Hitler’s Holocaust.
18. After Hitler’s death, Stalin continued the plan he had made with Hitler for Global Socialism. Stalin took over the same areas that Hitler had captured. He used the same facilities that Hitler had used. Hitler’s Holocaust never ended. Stalin replaced Hitler.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
> On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray wrote:
>> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
>>
>> Dr. Rex Curry completed copious on those topics that you post about.
>> Here are some
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Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
zak alt
Kerr-Mudd, John
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> On 2022-04-26 16:03:17 +0000, zak alt said:
>
> > On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray wrote:
> >> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
> >>
> >> [ … ]
>
> >> Dr. Rex Curry completed copious on those topics that you post about.
> >> Here are some
>
> Crackpot additions
>
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
zak alt
Ken Blake
wrote:
>On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 3:09:37 PM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 18:08:10 +0200
>> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > On 2022-04-26 16:03:17 +0000, zak alt said:
>> >
>> > > On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray wrote:
>> > >> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
>> > >>
>> > >> [ … ]
>> >
>> > >> Dr. Rex Curry completed copious on those topics that you post about.
>> > >> Here are some
>> >
>> > Crackpot additions
>> >
>> Sounds like a flyby Putin apologist. Best ignored.
>>
>> --
>> Bah, and indeed Humbug.
>Yes, Athel Cornish-Bowden is a flyby Putin apologist.
about to be killfiled. I don't want read any more of your crap.
Ross Clark
> On 2022-04-26 16:03:17 +0000, zak alt said:
>
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray wrote:
>>> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
>>>
>>> [ … ]
>
>>> Dr. Rex Curry completed copious on those topics that you post about.
>>> Here are some
>
> Crackpot additions
Devotees of "Dr.Rex Curry" have been posting their private obsessions
here and elsewhere since at least 2005.
zak alt
zak alt
Peter Moylan
> You were also not previously aware that German socialists and Soviet
> socialists invaded Poland together, and continued onward from there,
> killing millions?
unwelcome in Nazi-era Germany.
Do not be fooled by the term "National socialist". It has nothing to do
with socialism.
--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org
Athel Cornish-Bowden
> On 27/04/22 17:06, zak alt wrote:
>
>> You were also not previously aware that German socialists and Soviet
>> socialists invaded Poland together, and continued onward from there,
>> killing millions?
>
> You keep saying this. Apparently you are unaware that socialists were
> unwelcome in Nazi-era Germany.
>
> Do not be fooled by the term "National socialist". It has nothing to do
> with socialism.
have gone to such lengths to overcome the USSR if Hitler and Stalin
were best buddies?
charles
> On 2022-04-27 07:22:08 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
> > On 27/04/22 17:06, zak alt wrote:
> >
> >> You were also not previously aware that German socialists and Soviet
> >> socialists invaded Poland together, and continued onward from there,
> >> killing millions?
> >
> > You keep saying this. Apparently you are unaware that socialists were
> > unwelcome in Nazi-era Germany.
> >
> > Do not be fooled by the term "National socialist". It has nothing to do
> > with socialism.
> Probably also unaware of the battle of Stalingrad. Why would Hitler
> have gone to such lengths to overcome the USSR if Hitler and Stalin
> were best buddies?
--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle
Snidely
> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>> On 2022-04-27 07:22:08 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>>> On 27/04/22 17:06, zak alt wrote:
>>>
>>>> You were also not previously aware that German socialists and Soviet
>>>> socialists invaded Poland together, and continued onward from there,
>>>> killing millions?
>>>
>>> You keep saying this. Apparently you are unaware that socialists were
>>> unwelcome in Nazi-era Germany.
>>>
>>> Do not be fooled by the term "National socialist". It has nothing to do
>>> with socialism.
>
>> Probably also unaware of the battle of Stalingrad. Why would Hitler
>> have gone to such lengths to overcome the USSR if Hitler and Stalin
>> were best buddies?
>
> but they were to begin with .. then Hitler atacked.
/dps "Germany needed wheat as much as petroleum"
--
"This is all very fine, but let us not be carried away be excitement,
but ask calmly, how does this person feel about in in his cooler
moments next day, with six or seven thousand feet of snow and stuff on
top of him?"
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain.
Ross Clark
Francis Bellamy
> A lot of fascinating research examines philology: the study of literary
Top mind-blowing discoveries of the 21st Century were revealed in the academic work of Professor Rex Curry and explained by the author Ian Tinny in his book: "Hitler Was A Communist". For example, Many of the following facts (with credit to Dr. Curry) will be news to most readers:
1. Karl Marx’s anti-Semitism (and his Christian background) inspired Hitler’s anti-Semitism and Hitler’s use of Christian cross symbolism including the SWASTIKA (the Hakenkreuz or “hooked cross”); Iron Cross; Balkenkreuz; Krückenkreuz; and the common Christian cross. The symbols signified commonality with Marx’s opposition to Judaism, and they promoted Christianity as the “alternative” thereto. The Swastika was also used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” (Marx’s underlying dogma). Marx was a Nazi and Hitler was a Communist. http://rexcurry.net
2. NEW SWASTIKA DISCOVERY: Hitler’s symbol is the reason why Hitler renamed his political party from DAP to NSDAP - "National Socialist German Workers Party" - because he needed the word "Socialist" in his party's name so that Hitler could use swastikas as "S"-letter shaped logos for "SOCIALIST" as the party's emblem. The party's name had to fit in Hitler's socialist branding campaign that used the swastika and many other similar alphabetical symbols, including the “SS” and “SA” and “NSV” and “VW” etc.
Lenin’s Christian background was similar to Marx’s. Marx’s anti-Semitism (and his religious upbringing) inspired Lenin’s anti-Semitism and the use of the SWASTIKA as Christian cross symbolism after 1917. The swastika symbol signified commonality with Marx’s opposition to Judaism. Judaism was banned by Soviet socialists. Under Lenin, the Russian Orthodox Church remained powerful (then Stalin became tyrant in 1922). The Swastika was also used to represent “S” letter shapes for “SOCIALISM” (Marx’s underlying dogma).
4. Marx, Hitler and their supporters self-identified as “socialists” by the very word in voluminous speeches and writings. The term "Socialist" appears throughout Mein Kampf as a self-description by Hitler. (Marx also used the term “Communist”).
5. Hitler was heavily influenced by Marx. Many socialists in the USA were also shaped by Marx. Two famous American socialists (the cousins Edward Bellamy and Francis Bellamy) were heavily influenced by Marx. The American socialists returned the favor: Francis Bellamy created the “Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag” that produced Nazi salutes and Nazi behavior. The Bellamy cousins were American national socialists.
6. Hitler never called himself a "Nazi." There was no “Nazi Germany.” There was no “Nazi Party.”
7. Hitler never called himself a “Fascist.” Modern socialists use “Nazi” and “Fascist” to hide how Hitler and his comrades self-identified: SOCIALIST.
8. The term “Nazi” isn’t in "Mein Kampf" nor in "Triumph of the Will."
9. The term “Fascist” never appears in Mein Kampf as a self-description by Hitler.
10. The term “swastika” never appears in the original Mein Kampf.
11. There is no evidence that Hitler ever used the word “swastika.”
12. The symbol that Hitler did use was intended to represent “S”-letter shapes for “socialist.”
13. Hitler altered his own signature to show his “S-shapes for socialism” logo branding. No one should stand for nor chant the Pledge of Allegiance because it was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (see the discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry). The early pledge began with a military salute that was then extended outward to point at the flag (thus the stiff-arm gesture came from the pledge and from the military salute). The rest is history.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
> On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray wrote:
>> A lot of
Message-ID: <90c5df93-d294-42d4...@googlegroups.com>
No comment on this bit
Peter Moylan
> On 2022-09-29 10:49:58 +0000, Francis Bellamy said:
>
> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
>
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray
>> wrote:
>>> A lot of
> stuff with no obvious connection to English usage.
Ah, but notice that the pest has a gmail address.
We've been told that gmail users are presented with a way to search the
web in a way that will lead them to Google Groups. I tried to check this
a couple of days ago, but couldn't proceed without creating a gmail
account, which I wasn't willing to do. (Actually, I do have a gmail mail
account, thanks to a previous phone that insisted on setting up mail for
me, but I don't use it because I don't know the password.) Are there any
gmail users here who can confirm that the gmail interface includes a
"search the web" option?
Peter T. Daniels
> On 2022-09-29 10:49:58 +0000, Francis Bellamy said:
> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
using a fake name for the purpose of deception?
The original one is best known for writing the Pledge of
Allegiance that you hate so much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Bellamy
Peter T. Daniels
> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
it was revived, on April 26, 2022.
Ken Blake
<pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>On 29/09/22 21:26, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-09-29 10:49:58 +0000, Francis Bellamy said:
>>
>> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
>>
>>> On Saturday, September 23, 2006 at 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, Tinny Ray
>>> wrote:
>>>> A lot of
>> stuff with no obvious connection to English usage.
>
>I didn't have the patience to read it all.
>
>> Message-ID:
>> <90c5df93-d294-42d4...@googlegroups.com> No comment
>> on this bit
>
>Ah, but notice that the pest has a gmail address.
>We've been told that gmail users are presented with a way to search the
>web in a way that will lead them to Google Groups. I tried to check this
>a couple of days ago, but couldn't proceed without creating a gmail
>account, which I wasn't willing to do. (Actually, I do have a gmail mail
>account, thanks to a previous phone that insisted on setting up mail for
>me, but I don't use it because I don't know the password.) Are there any
>gmail users here who can confirm that the gmail interface includes a
>"search the web" option?
Gmail web site, since I hate reading e-mail on the web. I use my Gmail
address as a secondary address for unimportant messages I never want
to reply to, and I read those messages in my e-mail client,
Thunderbird.
But I just went to the Gmail website to check for you. If the Gmail
interface includes a "search the web" option, I didn't see it.
Tony Cooper
under his real name.
He's written a number of books with interesting covers and titles. He
was QAnon before QAnon, and has been posting here for over 20 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Rex-Curry/e/B00BE6LDXC%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Curry is, or was, a lawyer practicing in Tampa, Florida and has run
for office in the Florida House or Senate (I forget which) as a
Liberterian candidate. He styles himseslf a Dr Rex Curry, Esq.
I don't think it's a problem to respond to his posts. I don't think
he follows the group at all. He just randomly spews out post to
various sources.
He's never, to my memory, responded to a response.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:26:13 AM UTC-4, Athel
>> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2022-09-29 10:49:58 +0000, Francis Bellamy said:
>>
>>> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
>>
>> Note also that you did your bit to keep the thread alive the last time
>> it was revived, on April 26, 2022.
> Rex Curry is using "Francis Bellamy" in this post, but he has posted
> under his real name.
>
> He's written a number of books with interesting covers and titles. He
> was QAnon before QAnon, and has been posting here for over 20 years.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Rex-Curry/e/B00BE6LDXC%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
>
> Curry is, or was, a lawyer practicing in Tampa, Florida and has run
> for office in the Florida House or Senate (I forget which) as a
> Liberterian candidate. He styles himseslf a Dr Rex Curry, Esq.
>
> I don't think it's a problem to respond to his posts. I don't think
> he follows the group at all. He just randomly spews out post to
> various sources.
>
> He's never, to my memory, responded to a response.
--
Peter T. Daniels
> On 2022-10-03 01:10:18 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
> > On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> > <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On Thursday, September 29, 2022 at 7:26:13 AM UTC-4, Athel
> >> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>> On 2022-09-29 10:49:58 +0000, Francis Bellamy said:
> >>> a lot of irrelevant stuff in answer to a 16 year old bit of spam.
> >> Note also that you did your bit to keep the thread alive the last time
> >> it was revived, on April 26, 2022.
> So? Who cares?
What kind of coward reprints a whole pointless message in order
to reply idiotically to one line, from days ago, buried within it?
> Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
Edward Bellamy
The pledge's hand gesture described by Francis Bellamy resulted in the classic "Nazi" salute because the ritual began with a military salute that was then extended outward toward the flag (in practice, that resulted in the final gesture being stiff and palm-down as performed by children in schools). The military salute (the initial gesture in Bellamy's pledge) was the origin of the Nazi salute.
Dr. Curry also showed that Hitler used the so-called swastika symbol to represent "S" letter shapes for his "socialism." All other historians did not see. Do you not see? "Nazis" did not call themselves "Nazis" (nor "Fascists," nor "Third Reich"). They described themselves as "socialists" (by the very word) in voluminous speeches and writings.
Soviet socialism and German socialism partnered to launch WWII, invading Poland together, and going onward from there, killing millions, in a secret conspiracy for International Socialism.
Athel Cornish-Bowden
>
> [ … ]
a pile of spam about America's treasure, Rex Curry
Peter Moylan
> Soviet socialism and German socialism partnered to launch WWII,
> invading Poland together, and going onward from there, killing
> millions, in a secret conspiracy for International Socialism.
ever found out about it. That's why they kept killing each other.
Edward Bellamy
The following is a list of topics that “Conservative, Republican, Libertarian” types have in common with socialists:
1. They won't cover Hitler as a socialist; They are ignorant of the fact that Hitler et al did not describe their movement with the words “Nazi, Fascist, Third Reich, nor Swastika.” They are ignorant of the fact that Hitler’s ilk described themselves as “Socialist” (by the very word) in their voluminous speeches and writings.
2. They won't cohesively cover Soviet socialism, Chinese socialism, and German socialism (all three together). They want to separate out German socialism as “different” and not part of the group. Then they want to refer to German socialism as “Nazism” or “Fascism.”
3. They won't cover how Soviet socialism and German socialism partnered to launch WWII, invading Poland together, going onward from there, killing millions, in a secret conspiracy for International Socialism.
4. They won't explain how an American socialist (Francis Bellamy) wrote the Pledge of Allegiance and it was the origin of the “Nazi” salute and “Nazi” behavior adopted later under Hitler’s German socialism (a discovery by the USA's Historian Laureate Dr. Rex Curry).
5. They won't explain the "swastika" as "S" letter shapes to symbolize socialism under Hitler (another discovery by the historian Dr. Rex Curry). They were unable to make the discoveries in #4 & #5 because of their ideological bias. Try harder.
Daniel Ruth
Peter Moylan
> On 19/11/22 17:39, Edward Bellamy wrote:
>
>> Soviet socialism and German socialism partnered to launch WWII,
>> invading Poland together, and going onward from there, killing
>> millions, in a secret conspiracy for International Socialism.
>
> A conspiracy so secret that neither the Nazis nor the Russian
> communists ever found out about it. That's why they kept killing each
> other.
Edward Bellamy (1850-1898) and Rex Curry were well-known crackpots.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW
Peter T. Daniels
> I had better apologise for this response. At the time I had no idea that
> Edward Bellamy (1850-1898) and Rex Curry were well-known crackpots.
Allegiance? (He did not, of course, recommend the "Nazi salute";
that extended-arm gesture was adopted, years later, independently,
from the same source -- "ancient" Rome.)