Des Voeux

[Ross]

Anybody know to pronounce the surname of Sir George William Des Voeux
(1834-1909)? Despite the French name, he was an Englishman who had
a career in the colonial service, being successively Governor of Fiji,
Newfoundland, and Hong Kong,so I think he must have had an English
pronunciation.

Forvo offers only a French version. The other sites I've looked
at don't say anything about pronunciation.

Assuming none of you actually knew him, maybe you know somebody
with that surname (he had eight children)? There's a street named
after him in HK, so I'd also be interested in local pronunciation
of that or anything else bearing his name.

[Traddict]

"Ross" <benl...@ihug.co.nz> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion
: d93da40b-e2a3-42e4...@googlegroups.com...

> Anybody know to pronounce the surname of Sir George William Des Voeux
> (1834-1909)? Despite the French name, he was an Englishman who had
> a career in the colonial service, being successively Governor of Fiji,
> Newfoundland, and Hong Kong,so I think he must have had an English
> pronunciation.

Based on the usual alteration of French names in English, my guess would be
dei'v(j)u:z

[James Hogg]

Daniel Jones has it, at least the 14th edition: deI'vV":
Hope I've got that right. The last vowel should be the long reversed
epsilon of "burn, fern". Basically an anglicized variant of the French
pronunciation.

--
James

[Ross]

Ha! Thank you. I hadn't looked at Jones, since I didn't expect it would
be there -- the guy was not that famous.

Makes a problem for those of us who don't have that vowel in that position.
But I don't have to give a lecture on him or anything. It was just idle
curiosity; I came across references to him in a history of British colonial
doings in the Pacific, and wondered how it would be Englished.

[Ross]

Still more surprises. My latest Jones (18th, 2011) gives exactly
the form you describe. But what's this? In 1940 (and also in 1919 via
Google Books) he has [deiˈvou]! Actually that's more the sort of thing
I would have expected.

Just in the interests of completeness, according to one site I found,
Cantonese for "Des Voeux Street" (HK) is "Du Fu Doe" -- whatever you
want to make of that phonetically.

[Peter T. Daniels]

FWIW, the Indo-Europeanist Bert Vaux is [vOks], and yes, he is related
to Olmstead's partner Calvert Vaux, the landscape architects. I forget
whether he said he was a direct or a collateral descendant.

[Steve Hayes]

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:47:00 +0200, James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com>
wrote:

I wonder if there is any connection to Vaux or De Vaux?

Vaux used to be a brewery in Sunderland.

A Victorian (era, not state) genealogist claimed that Vaux was related
my great frandfather's surname Vause.


--
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[CDB]

On 01/04/2015 7:48 PM, Ross wrote:

The pronunciation you have above may be Cantonese: IIGIR, the pinyin
transcription is De2fu3Dao4. Encouragement to Virtue Way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Des_Voeux_Road

[Jerry Friedman]

On 4/1/15 9:29 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:47:00 +0200, James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ross wrote:
>>> Anybody know to pronounce the surname of Sir George William Des Voeux
>>> (1834-1909)? Despite the French name, he was an Englishman who had a
>>> career in the colonial service, being successively Governor of Fiji,
>>> Newfoundland, and Hong Kong,so I think he must have had an English
>>> pronunciation.
>>>
>>> Forvo offers only a French version. The other sites I've looked at
>>> don't say anything about pronunciation.
>>>
>>> Assuming none of you actually knew him, maybe you know somebody with
>>> that surname (he had eight children)? There's a street named after
>>> him in HK, so I'd also be interested in local pronunciation of that
>>> or anything else bearing his name.
>>
>> Daniel Jones has it, at least the 14th edition: deI'vV":
>> Hope I've got that right. The last vowel should be the long reversed
>> epsilon of "burn, fern". Basically an anglicized variant of the French
>> pronunciation.
>
> I wonder if there is any connection to Vaux or De Vaux?
>
> Vaux used to be a brewery in Sunderland.
>
> A Victorian (era, not state) genealogist claimed that Vaux was related
> my great frandfather's surname Vause.

This agrees, though it raises the possibility that "le Vaus" could mean
"the false".

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Vause

The important Vaux, of course, is William Sansom Vaux (1811-1882), who
Vaux's Swift (/Chaetura vauxi/) is named after. Pronounced "vawx", like
the name of the landscape architect who PTD mentioned.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Steve Hayes]

And presumably Vauxhall, which is how the Brits pronouce "Opel" and is
alleged to have given its name to Russian mainline stations, though
the image that comes to mind when I hear it is bricked-in railway
arches with second-hand shops underneath.

The Victorian genealogist who drew up the family tree for a relative
included most of the information on that web site you linked to,
sometimes even in the same words, suggesting a common source, with a
family tree showing some medieval De Vaux family, with a dotted line
labelled "here there is a break but" linking it to someone who died in
Lincolnshire some 200 years later. And even that was the wrong person.

But Vaux ale, from Sunderland, was almost as good as Newcastle Brown
when I was a student in Durham.

[Janet]

In article <gb0vha5qq3m4tiba8...@4ax.com>,
haye...@telkomsa.net says...

> The Victorian genealogist who drew up the family tree for a relative
> included most of the information on that web site you linked to,
> sometimes even in the same words,
>

I didn't know the Victorians used the internet.

Janet

[Steve Hayes]

Neither did I.

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 13:24:03 +0100, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victorian_Internet


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 1:14:57 AM UTC-4, Jerry Friedman wrote:

> The important Vaux, of course, is William Sansom Vaux (1811-1882), who
> Vaux's Swift (/Chaetura vauxi/) is named after. Pronounced "vawx", like
> the name of the landscape architect who PTD mentioned.

Does it thrive in any of the environments created by Olmstead & Vaux throughout
the country? (The firm continued after the originals' retirements.)

[Jerry Friedman]

They breed in big hollow trees in old-growth forests in the West Coast
states and BC (and a little of Alberta). Range map at

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Vauxs_Swift/id

In migration they roost by the thousands in certain favored trees and
chimneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TT07lAdNaM

(Search YouTube for Vaux's Swifts Eugene.)

A sufficiently dedicated person could probably figure out whether
they're found in any of O&V's landscapes.

--
Jerry Friedman

[John Holmes]

Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 13:24:03 +0100, Janet <nob...@home.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <gb0vha5qq3m4tiba8...@4ax.com>,
>> haye...@telkomsa.net says...
>>
>>> The Victorian genealogist who drew up the family tree for a relative
>>> included most of the information on that web site you linked to,
>>> sometimes even in the same words,
>>>
>> I didn't know the Victorians used the internet.
>
> Neither did I.

Some of us do, but it is a bit slow outside central Melbourne.

--
Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au

[roh...@gmail.com]

The correct pronunciation is 'Devoe' (like Defoe). And in answer to the questions below, there is no connection to Vaux or De Vaux. My family is connected to other French Huguenot families but none of them have similar surnames.

[Whiskers]

Quaintly, Wikipedia sidesteps the pronunciation question by not
mentioning it. It also sticks to the spelling 'des Vœux'.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Des_V%C5%93ux&oldid=756321951>

Microsoft translator auto-recognises 'des Vœux' as 'French' and offers
'Wishes' as the English translation (and 'vows' or 'greetings' as
alternatives).

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

[James Hogg]

Daniel Jones has [deɪˈvɜː]

--
James

[Ross]

...as you helpfully told me on 4/2/15 (see above), but with better
phonetics this time. To which I replied that in other editions
Jones gives [dei'vou]. There's also de2fu3 (in Cantonese).
Now our new contributor offers (I assume) [dI'vou] or maybe [d@'vou].
That should be enough for anyone.

[Ross]

Thank you! You have revived a thread from two years ago, but with
new information to contribute.
Am I right in assuming that Des Voeux is your family name? And if so,
are you related to the individual described above?

[pixleya...@gmail.com]

I'm one of his Yank descendants. The Williams family in England pronounces it De Voh. Just a long 'O' on the end.

[bebe...@aol.com]

Le jeudi 2 avril 2015 01:48:38 UTC+2, Ross a écrit :
> On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:55:40 AM UTC+13, Ross wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 2, 2015 at 10:47:02 AM UTC+13, James Hogg wrote:
> > > Ross wrote:
> > > > Anybody know to pronounce the surname of Sir George William Des Voeux
> > > > (1834-1909)? Despite the French name, he was an Englishman who had a
> > > > career in the colonial service, being successively Governor of Fiji,
> > > > Newfoundland, and Hong Kong,so I think he must have had an English
> > > > pronunciation.
> > > >
> > > > Forvo offers only a French version. The other sites I've looked at
> > > > don't say anything about pronunciation.
> > > >
> > > > Assuming none of you actually knew him, maybe you know somebody with
> > > > that surname (he had eight children)? There's a street named after
> > > > him in HK, so I'd also be interested in local pronunciation of that
> > > > or anything else bearing his name.
> > >
> > > Daniel Jones has it, at least the 14th edition:

> > > deI'vV":

That's funny because, with that pronunciation, had his first name been "Ron", his complete name would sound very close to "rendezvous".

[roh...@gmail.com]

Yes, it my family name. We are the last remaining Des Voeuxs. We are cousins to Sir George Des Voeux. That side of the family has died out. The pronunciation is definitely De Voe and the surname should definitely be written with a capital D and V.

[Snidely]

Remember when roh...@gmail.com bragged outrageously? That was
Wednesday:

No fair posting with actual knowledge!

/dps

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[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Can one be definite about such things, anyway? Some people of the same
family spell their surbames Foulkes,others ffoulkes. Some people of the
same family (mine) pronounce the "bow" of Bowden to rhyme with "bow",
others to rhyme with "bow". (If that's too ambiguous, you can take
"row" and "row" instead, or "how" and "low").



--
athel

[J. J. Lodder]

Is it known how Mr. Bowden, of cable fame, should be pronounced?
(I used the 'how' pronunciation, but wikip suggests 'low'")

Jan

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2018-03-15 13:42:27 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:

> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-15 08:35:15 +0000, Snidely said:
>>
>>> Remember when roh...@gmail.com bragged outrageously? That was Wednesday:

[ ... ]

>>>>
>>>> Yes, it my family name. We are the last remaining Des Voeuxs. We are
>>>> cousins to Sir George Des Voeux. That side of the family has died out.
>>>> The pronunciation is definitely De Voe and the surname should
>>>> definitely be written with a capital D and V.
>>>
>>> No fair posting with actual knowledge!
>>
>> Can one be definite about such things, anyway? Some people of the same
>> family spell their surbames Foulkes,others ffoulkes. Some people of the
>> same family (mine) pronounce the "bow" of Bowden to rhyme with "bow",
>> others to rhyme with "bow". (If that's too ambiguous, you can take
>> "row" and "row" instead, or "how" and "low").
>
> Is it known how Mr.

Sir Frank Bowden, Bt.

> Bowden, of cable fame, should be pronounced?
> (I used the 'how' pronunciation, but wikip suggests 'low'")

Wikipedia implicitly contradicts itself. It says "low" in one article,
but the article on Sir Frank Bowden says he was born in Devon, which
makes it 90% certain that he used "how" when he was a lad, unless, like
me, he had a greatgrandmother who found the traditional Devon
pronunciation "common". If he'd been born in Manchester or Cheshire it
would almost certainly have been "low". Mind you, he bought his first
bicycle in Nottingham, so it's possible he changed it to match the
northern pronunciation, in which it's not a diphthong but a lengthened
oh (I don't know how to do that in IPA because it's a sound that
doesn't exist in RP).

--
athel

[Paul Wolff]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, J. J. Lodder <nos...@de-ster.demon.nl> posted:

>Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>> On 2018-03-15 08:35:15 +0000, Snidely said:
>> > Remember when roh...@gmail.com bragged outrageously? That was Wednesday:
>> >>

>> >> Yes, it my family name. We are the last remaining Des Voeuxs. We are
>> >> cousins to Sir George Des Voeux. That side of the family has died out.
>> >> The pronunciation is definitely De Voe and the surname should
>> >> definitely be written with a capital D and V.
>> >
>> > No fair posting with actual knowledge!
>>
>> Can one be definite about such things, anyway? Some people of the same
>> family spell their surbames Foulkes,others ffoulkes. Some people of the
>> same family (mine) pronounce the "bow" of Bowden to rhyme with "bow",
>> others to rhyme with "bow". (If that's too ambiguous, you can take
>> "row" and "row" instead, or "how" and "low").
>
>Is it known how Mr. Bowden, of cable fame, should be pronounced?
>(I used the 'how' pronunciation, but wikip suggests 'low'")
>

It's a long time since I had occasion to speak it, but I think 'low'
(not exactly like German Boden).

(I hope I'm not re-opening a can of Worms.)
--
Paul

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I don't know why I didn't think of the German word: the Manchester
pronunciation of Bowden is quite similar to German Boden: not exactly
the same, but closer than anything one could say in RP.

I'm reminded of an argument I had with PTD three or four years ago
that, in retrospect, was partly a misunderstanding. I thought he was
claiming that German Dom had a diphthong, whereas he appears to have
been saying that he pronounces the English word "dome" without a
diphthong, which hadn't occurred to me.

>
> (I hope I'm not re-opening a can of Worms.)


--

athel

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:52:04 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden

A friend of my parents and a fellow PhD student of my father was a man
named Vivian Bowden.
He was ennobled as "Baron Bowden, of Chesterfield in the County of
Derbyshire". He had been born in Chesterfield. When I met him, and in
fact lived in his house for a few weeks with my mother when I was ill,
he was living in the Cheshire town of Bowdon.

Both he and the town had "Bow" rhyming with "low".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._V._Bowden,_Baron_Bowden

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

When I were a lad I lived within walking distance of Bowdon. Wikipedia
informs me that "Bowdon, Hale and Hale Barns together are regarded as
the wealthiest areas in Greater Manchester". I can believe it, but when
I lived in Hale Bowdon was regarded as being where the rich people
lived, i.e. significantly wealthier than Hale or Hale Barns.

> Both he and the town had "Bow" rhyming with "low".
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._V._Bowden,_Baron_Bowden


--

athel

[Ken Blake]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:10:13 +0000, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]"
<ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:


>A friend of my parents and a fellow PhD student of my father was a man
>named Vivian Bowden.
>He was ennobled as "Baron Bowden, of Chesterfield in the County of
>Derbyshire". He had been born in Chesterfield. When I met him, and in
>fact lived in his house for a few weeks with my mother when I was ill,
>he was living in the Cheshire town of Bowdon.
>
>Both he and the town had "Bow" rhyming with "low".

The first syllable of Bowdoin college, in Maine USA, also rhymes with
"low."

[Paul Wolff]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> posted:

>On 2018-03-15 18:10:13 +0000, Peter Duncanson [BrE] said:
>> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:52:04 +0100, Athel Cornish-Bowden

>>> On 2018-03-15 13:42:27 +0000, J. J. Lodder said:
>>>> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>>>>>Some people of the
>>>>> same family (mine) pronounce the "bow" of Bowden to rhyme with "bow",
>>>>> others to rhyme with "bow". (If that's too ambiguous, you can take
>>>>> "row" and "row" instead, or "how" and "low").
>>>> Is it known how Mr.
>>> Sir Frank Bowden, Bt.
>>>
>>>> Bowden, of cable fame, should be pronounced?
>>>> (I used the 'how' pronunciation, but wikip suggests 'low'")
>>> Wikipedia implicitly contradicts itself. It says "low" in one
>>>article,>but the article on Sir Frank Bowden says he was born in Devon,
>>> which>makes it 90% certain that he used "how" when he was a lad,
>>> unless, like>me, he had a greatgrandmother who found the traditional
>>> Devon>pronunciation "common". If he'd been born in Manchester or
>>> Cheshire it>would almost certainly have been "low". Mind you, he
>>>bought his first>bicycle in Nottingham, so it's possible he changed
>>>it to match the>northern pronunciation, in which it's not a
>>>diphthong but a
>>> lengthened>oh (I don't know how to do that in IPA because it's a

>>> lengthened>

>>> that>doesn't exist in RP).
>> A friend of my parents and a fellow PhD student of my father was a
>>man
>> named Vivian Bowden.
>> He was ennobled as "Baron Bowden, of Chesterfield in the County of
>> Derbyshire". He had been born in Chesterfield. When I met him, and in
>> fact lived in his house for a few weeks with my mother when I was ill,
>> he was living in the Cheshire town of Bowdon.

A passing comment: a Baron is distinct from a Baronet, abbreviated Bt. I
don't know how they compare in formal rank. A Baronet is somewhere down
at the bottom in the pecking order, but hereditary (which is a plus),
while I'd suspect a Baron of being a mere Life Peer, recently appointed
to the House of Lords as a reward for services and wealth creation,
which leaves a number of questions unput, never mind unanswered.

>
>When I were a lad I lived within walking distance of Bowdon. Wikipedia
>informs me that "Bowdon, Hale and Hale Barns together are regarded as
>the wealthiest areas in Greater Manchester". I can believe it, but when
>I lived in Hale Bowdon was regarded as being where the rich people
>lived, i.e. significantly wealthier than Hale or Hale Barns.
>
>> Both he and the town had "Bow" rhyming with "low".
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._V._Bowden,_Baron_Bowden

Oh, /that/ Bowdon! A top croquet club, but the courts are rather closely
crowded together, so watch your backswing when playing from the
boundaries. And the houses round about do look comfortable. Definitely
Bow as in "Rosin the Bow"; or "low" if you must.
--
Paul

[Paul Wolff]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018, Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> posted:

Yes, the Wormser Dom was what I had in mind!
--
Paul

[Ken Blake]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 22:44:02 +0000, Paul Wolff
<boun...@thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk> wrote:

>Oh, /that/ Bowdon! A top croquet club, but the courts are rather closely
>crowded together, so watch your backswing when playing from the
>boundaries. And the houses round about do look comfortable. Definitely
>Bow as in "Rosin the Bow"; or "low" if you must.

Or Rosin the Beau
https://thebards.net/music/lyrics/Rosin_The_Beau.shtml

[Mark Brader]

Peter Duncanson:

> A friend of my parents and a fellow PhD student of my father was a man
> named Vivian Bowden.
> He was ennobled as "Baron Bowden, of Chesterfield in the County of

> Derbyshire"...

Ah, that's the man who was advised by Prof. Douglas Hartree that
Ferranti should give up the idea of manufacturing digital computers
because the three computers already being built would suffice for
all the calculations that would ever be needed in Britain.

I continue to suspect a similar prediction attributed to Thomas
Watson Sr. was really ijust a transposition of this conversation
to the US.
--
Mark Brader | "Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember
Toronto | the exact instant when I realized that a large part
m...@vex.net | of my life... was going to be spent in finding
| mistakes in my own programs." -- Maurice Wilkes

My text in this article is in the public domain.

[David Kleinecke]

Except for the first verse the version I know is much more
sober and much more likely to be the original of which this
is a "comic Irishman" parody.

I don't remember it all just now -

I live for the good of my nation
And my sons are all growing low
...

I've traveled this whole world all over
And now to the next one I go
So take up a bumper at parting
And drink to old Rosin the Beau

[Peter T. Daniels]

[o:] (as in "dome").

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2018-03-15 22:44:02 +0000, Paul Wolff said:

> [ ... ]

> A passing comment: a Baron is distinct from a Baronet, abbreviated Bt.
> I don't know how they compare in formal rank.

Royal Duke > Duke > Marquess (Marquis) > Earl > Viscount > Baron >
Baronet > Knight > you and me

> A Baronet is somewhere down at the bottom in the pecking order, but
> hereditary (which is a plus), while I'd suspect a Baron of being a mere
> Life Peer, recently appointed to the House of Lords as a reward for
> services and wealth creation, which leaves a number of questions unput,
> never mind unanswered.

Yes, baronets are hereditary, but they are still outranked by life peers.


--
athel

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

As in your "dome", not in mine ([dəʊ̯m]).

--
athel

[Peter T. Daniels]

On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 3:45:52 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2018-03-15 22:44:02 +0000, Paul Wolff said:

> > A passing comment: a Baron is distinct from a Baronet, abbreviated Bt.
> > I don't know how they compare in formal rank.
>
> Royal Duke > Duke > Marquess (Marquis) > Earl > Viscount > Baron >
> Baronet > Knight > you and me

we sweat and strain, body all achin' and racked wid pain
tote dat barge, lift dat bale, git a little drunk and you land in jail

[Anders D. Nygaard]

Den 15-03-2018 kl. 09:44 skrev Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> [...] Some people of the same

> family spell their surbames Foulkes,others ffoulkes. Some people of the
> same family (mine) pronounce the "bow" of Bowden to rhyme with "bow",
> others to rhyme with "bow". (If that's too ambiguous, you can take "row"
> and "row" instead, or "how" and "low").

And are you on the "how" or the "low" side of the fence?
(I have always assumed "low")

/Anders, Denmark

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

I'm "low", but only because my greatgrandmother was a snob. Her husband
was always "how" before they were married.


--
athel

[Peter T. Daniels]

Mrs Bucket!

[Sam Plusnet]

On 15-Mar-18 23:59, Mark Brader wrote:
> Peter Duncanson:
>> A friend of my parents and a fellow PhD student of my father was a man
>> named Vivian Bowden.
>> He was ennobled as "Baron Bowden, of Chesterfield in the County of
>> Derbyshire"...
>
> Ah, that's the man who was advised by Prof. Douglas Hartree that
> Ferranti should give up the idea of manufacturing digital computers
> because the three computers already being built would suffice for
> all the calculations that would ever be needed in Britain.
>

If only he had warned them against buying a US company which thrived on
illegal arms sales.


--
Sam Plusnet

[roh...@gmail.com]

Bragged outrageously?? Surely I know both how to pronounce my own name and also my family history. Please explain why that is bragging?

[roh...@gmail.com]

On this particular subject I can be definite because there are no other Des Voeuxs left. The rest of the family has died out. As the name was an addition to the original French family name and was anglicised the moment it was adopted, we can be sure of the pronunciation.

[roh...@gmail.com]

Hi. I hadn't seen these comments until I stumbled back on this site. Des Voeux is my family name. I am a distant cousin to him. There is only our branch of the family left. Just 6 of us with the surname.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2018-07-16 13:24:13 +0200, roh...@gmail.com said:

> Bragged outrageously?? Surely I know both how to pronounce my own name
> and also my family history. Please explain why that is bragging?

Snidely has several ways of expressing "wrote" at the beginning of a
post. That's one of them. It's not intended to be taken literally.

>
> On Thursday, 15 March 2018 08:35:20 UTC, Snidely wrote:
>> Remember when roh...@gmail.com bragged outrageously? That was
>> Wednesday:

--
athel

[RHDraney]

It's a good job this thread didn't happen back when I was using the
"filted" pattern....r

[Snidely]

With a quizzical look, Athel Cornish-Bowden observed:

> On 2018-07-16 13:24:13 +0200, roh...@gmail.com said:
>
>> Bragged outrageously?? Surely I know both how to pronounce my own name and
>> also my family history. Please explain why that is bragging?
>
> Snidely has several ways of expressing "wrote" at the beginning of a post.
> That's one of them. It's not intended to be taken literally.
>

And while I can force a particular "wrote" line, I usually forget to
check what the automatic selection provides.

The bit in the .sig position is a random selection from my "afters"
list with no override.

>> On Thursday, 15 March 2018 08:35:20 UTC, Snidely wrote:
>>> Remember when roh...@gmail.com bragged outrageously? That was
>>> Wednesday:

/dps "spins the wheel"

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"That's a good sort of hectic, innit?"

" Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons."
-njm

[ksarb...@gmail.com]

Hi there my partner's great Gradfather is this man William De Voeux!

Some of his family history is missing. Very interested to connect.

Thanks,

S.K.