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kurt63

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Mar 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/30/00
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My father is now 75, he still remembers asking his father for
things and being told “You get what Paddy shot at.â€
Unfortunately, he never knew what Paddy shot at. When his father
was dying, my dad asked him what Paddy shot at, and he
replied, “What are you trying to do, pollute the kid?†he asked
pointing at my brother.

I know that that is a cribbage expression, but considering his
response when asked about it, I assume that it must have had
another meaning, one less . . . genteel. Does anyone have any
ideas?

Kurt.

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Geoff Butler

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Apr 2, 2000, 4:00:00 AM4/2/00
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kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote

>My father is now 75, he still remembers asking his father for
>things and being told “You get what Paddy shot at.â€
>Unfortunately, he never knew what Paddy shot at. When his father
>was dying, my dad asked him what Paddy shot at, and he
>replied, “What are you trying to do, pollute the kid?†he asked
>pointing at my brother.
>
>I know that that is a cribbage expression,

I've never heard the expression in any context, and I've played a lot of
crib (cribbage, if you prefer). In fact, crib expressions are rare apart
from those that relate directly to the game.

-ler

kurt63

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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>I've never heard the expression in any context, and I've played
a lot of
>crib (cribbage, if you prefer). In fact, crib expressions are
rare apart
>from those that relate directly to the game.

Please see, How to play Cribbage:
http://www.appcomp.utas.edu.au/students/dpurton/crib/terms.html

Ted H.

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 07:34:41 -0700, kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote:
> >I've never heard the expression in any context, and I've played
> a lot of
> >crib (cribbage, if you prefer). In fact, crib expressions are
> rare apart
> >from those that relate directly to the game.
>
> Please see, How to play Cribbage:
> http://www.appcomp.utas.edu.au/students/dpurton/crib/terms.html


I've played cribbage for many years--my mother taught me when
I was young. The expression in our family (also via my grandfather)
was, "I got what the little boy shot at." I've never heard any
other use of the phrase.

Ted

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kurt63

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Considering my grandfather's reaction to the question, I doubt
that his understanding of the idiom had anything to do with
Cribbage.

Do you know anything else about the expression?

kurt63

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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>I've played cribbage for many years--my mother taught me when I
was young.
>The expression in our family (also via my grandfather) was, "I
got what the
>little boy shot at." I've never heard any other use of the
phrase.

I apologize for reacting to your answer too quickly. In your
usage, does the expression also mean something useless?

Ted H.

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:55:20 -0700, kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> I apologize for reacting to your answer too quickly. In your
> usage, does the expression also mean something useless?

No apology needed. The phrase was always used to describe a hand
worth no points. My sense of the phrase was that there was a little
sin involved--after all, a young boy probably had something targeted
but was not willing to admit what it might have been.

Geoff Butler

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote
>[he didn't say this, but -ler wrote]

>>I've never heard the expression in any context, and I've played
>a lot of
>>crib (cribbage, if you prefer). In fact, crib expressions are
>rare apart
>>from those that relate directly to the game.
>
>Please see, How to play Cribbage:
>http://www.appcomp.utas.edu.au/students/dpurton/crib/terms.html

It'd be helpful if you gave me a clue what to look for when I look
there, or why I should bother. I do, after all, know How to play
Cribbage.

-ler

kurt63

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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>It'd be helpful if you gave me a clue what to look for when I
look there, or
>why I should bother. I do, after all, know How to play
Cribbage.

You stated that you had never heard of the expression, that link
gives you a list of Cribbage terms.

Truly Donovan

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Apr 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/4/00
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On 3 Apr 2000 20:31:01 GMT, the...@netins.net (Ted H.) wrote:

> The phrase was always used to describe a hand
>worth no points.

Oh, a nineteen-pointer.

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Truly Donovan
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Ted H.

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:09:24 -0600, Truly Donovan <tru...@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 3 Apr 2000 20:31:01 GMT, the...@netins.net (Ted H.) wrote:
>
> > The phrase was always used to describe a hand
> >worth no points.
>
> Oh, a nineteen-pointer.


That's right! I'd forgotten that one. :)

Geoff Butler

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote

>>It'd be helpful if you gave me a clue what to look for when I
>look there, or
>>why I should bother. I do, after all, know How to play
>Cribbage.
>
>You stated that you had never heard of the expression, that link
>gives you a list of Cribbage terms.

Well, "What Paddy shot at" is there as the name for a hand that scores
zero. Elsewhere, under scoring, it says that "Nineteen" is the name for
a hand that scores zero. I know the latter, but have never heard the
former. Furthermore, it seems that these are the only nicknames in the
list, bearing in mind that terms like "One for his nob" are the real
names for the score, not nicknames.

The page itself uses American spelling ("Center") and American
terminology ("Run - see Straight") but is on a .au site. So, on balance,
as a Brit, I feel no shame at never having heard "What Paddy shot at" at
all, at all.

-ler

kurt63

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Apr 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/5/00
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>So, on balance, as a Brit, I feel no shame at never having
heard "What Paddy
>shot at" at all, at all.

No one said that you should feel ashamed. I merely asked if
anyone had heard of the expression.

Geoff Butler

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Apr 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/10/00
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kurt63 <kurt63N...@altavista.net.invalid> wrote

>>So, on balance, as a Brit, I feel no shame at never having
>heard "What Paddy
>>shot at" at all, at all.
>
>No one said that you should feel ashamed. I merely asked if
>anyone had heard of the expression.

Irony, old bean, irony. And wordplay.

-ler

mrtu...@gmail.com

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Sep 18, 2014, 10:24:15 AM9/18/14
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On Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, kurt63 wrote:
> My father is now 75, he still remembers asking his father for
> things and being told â EURO oeYou get what Paddy shot at.â EURO
> Unfortunately, he never knew what Paddy shot at. When his father
> was dying, my dad asked him what Paddy shot at, and he
> replied, â EURO oeWhat are you trying to do, pollute the kid?â EURO he asked
> pointing at my brother.
>
> I know that that is a cribbage expression, but considering his
> response when asked about it, I assume that it must have had
> another meaning, one less . . . genteel. Does anyone have any
> ideas?

>
> Kurt.
>
> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
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My Dad used that expression a lot, this way: I got what the little boy shot at...nothing! He ,also had other "little boy" sayings. I'm from Louisiana

Peter Moylan

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Sep 19, 2014, 4:02:10 AM9/19/14
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On 19/09/14 00:24, mrtu...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, kurt63 wrote:
>> My father is now 75, he still remembers asking his father for
>> things and being told � EURO oeYou get what Paddy shot at.� EURO
>> Unfortunately, he never knew what Paddy shot at. When his father
>> was dying, my dad asked him what Paddy shot at, and he
>> replied, � EURO oeWhat are you trying to do, pollute the kid?� EURO he asked
>> pointing at my brother.
>>
>> I know that that is a cribbage expression, but considering his
>> response when asked about it, I assume that it must have had
>> another meaning, one less . . . genteel. Does anyone have any
>> ideas?
>
>>
>> Kurt.
>>
>> * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network *
>> The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free!
> My Dad used that expression a lot, this way: I got what the little boy shot at...nothing! He ,also had other "little boy" sayings. I'm from Louisiana

But 14 years ago, kurt63 said that Paddy shot at a Euro.

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c.von...@gmail.com

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Nov 20, 2019, 1:01:56 AM11/20/19
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19 years behind on the conversation:

My grandfather also used the phrase, "what the little boy shot at," to mean a cribbage hand with no points.

I know of no other meaning.

Joy Beeson

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Nov 21, 2019, 2:11:35 AM11/21/19
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I believe that my mother would say she felt like what the little boy
shot at when she was exhausted or unwell.

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