00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
Dominate Tricks
I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
Is this 1 minute past midnight GMT or 1 minute past noon GMT?
Is GMT and BST time zone the same or what?
What would 24:00:00 and 12:00:00 in time be considered as a.m. or p.m.?
In summer U.K. people don't use GMT, but BST???
What does BST stand for?
This is confusing.
Thoughts?
Dominate Tricks
Susan Walker-O'Brien
: I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
The +0100 means one hour ahead of GMT, so "00:00:01 +0100" means one
second (not one minute; that would be 00:01:00) past midnight in the
time zone immediately to the right of GMT. Paris and Madrid are two
cities in that time zone. I have no idea what BST is. Do you UK folks
use Daylight Saving Time? If so, +0100 would also refer to the GMT
time zone during Daylight Saving Time. Is BST a reference to this
state of affairs?
It's highly unlikely you'll ever see a timestamp of 24:xx:xx Computer
clocks cycle back to 00:00:00 after 23:59:59. 00:00:00 is midnight;
12:00:00 is noon. Modern usage has noon written as 12 p.m., which I
think is patently silly. Since a.m. is "ante meridiem" (before noon)
and p.m. is "post meridiem" (after noon), noon should therefore be
"12 m.", right? But it's not used that way -- it would too easliy
confuse the ignorant, who would think the "m" stood for "midnight".
I've been told that "12 m.m." is the designation for midnight, in the
system where "12 m." means noon. Unfortunately, I've forgotten what
the first "m." stands for; the whole phrase is "m____ meridiem" and
it means something like "opposite of meridiem". Meta meridiem. Magic
meridiem. Mysterious meridiem. Minus meridiem. ???
Susan
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>I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
23:00:01 GMT
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> Dominate Tricks (domi...@tricks.com) wrote:
>
> : I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>
> The +0100 means one hour ahead of GMT, so "00:00:01 +0100" means one
> second (not one minute; that would be 00:01:00) past midnight in the
> time zone immediately to the right of GMT. Paris and Madrid are two
> cities in that time zone. I have no idea what BST is. Do you UK folks
> use Daylight Saving Time? If so, +0100 would also refer to the GMT
> time zone during Daylight Saving Time. Is BST a reference to this
> state of affairs?
>
> It's highly unlikely you'll ever see a timestamp of 24:xx:xx Computer
> clocks cycle back to 00:00:00 after 23:59:59.
Only until the year 2000, eh?
Ian Osborne
>: What does BST stand for?
British Summer Time
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Brian J Goggin
<domi...@tricks.com> wrote:
>I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
>Is this 1 minute past midnight GMT or 1 minute past noon GMT?
>Is GMT and BST time zone the same or what?
>What would 24:00:00 and 12:00:00 in time be considered as a.m. or p.m.?
>In summer U.K. people don't use GMT, but BST???
Is there nothing at Greenwich to explain these matters? No informative
leaflet for tourists?
bjg
J. Emery
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In article <lbpeepEy...@netcom.com>, lbp...@netcom.com (Susan
Walker-O'Brien) wrote:
>Modern usage has noon written as 12 p.m., which I
>think is patently silly. Since a.m. is "ante meridiem" (before noon)
>and p.m. is "post meridiem" (after noon), noon should therefore be
>"12 m.", right? But it's not used that way -- it would too easliy
>confuse the ignorant, who would think the "m" stood for "midnight".
>
>I've been told that "12 m.m." is the designation for midnight, in the
>system where "12 m." means noon. Unfortunately, I've forgotten what
>the first "m." stands for; the whole phrase is "m____ meridiem" and
>it means something like "opposite of meridiem". Meta meridiem. Magic
>meridiem. Mysterious meridiem. Minus meridiem. ???
Well, of course, it is done to confuse the arrogant.
Alec Owen
>
> On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:09:44 GMT, Dominate Tricks
> <domi...@tricks.com> wrote:
>
> >I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
> >00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
I presume that 00:00:01 is one second past midnight.
I am not sure about +0100. I have never seen it. BST is
of course British Summer Time. Which I suppose is GMT plus one hour.
> >Is this 1 minute past midnight GMT or 1 minute past noon GMT?
> >Is GMT and BST time zone the same or what?
>
> >What would 24:00:00 and 12:00:00 in time be considered as a.m. or p.m.?
I never saw 24:00:00 but presume it is midnight. For some reason when I
was a soldier midnight was referred to as 23:59 hours.But that was a
long time ago. 12:00 is midday obviously.
> >In summer U.K. people don't use GMT, but BST???
The BBC gives the time in GMT in their broadcasts to Canada.
During the war we had double summer time which was GMT plus 2 hours.
I think this was to save electricity and therefore coal.
A Owen
Toronto
Chuck Maurer
wrote:
>lbp...@netcom.com (Susan Walker-O'Brien) writes:
>>
>> Dominate Tricks (domi...@tricks.com) wrote:
>>
>> : I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>> : 00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
><snip>
>>
>> The +0100 means one hour ahead of GMT, so "00:00:01 +0100" means one
>> second (not one minute; that would be 00:01:00) past midnight in the
>> time zone immediately to the right of GMT. Paris and Madrid are two
>> cities in that time zone. I have no idea what BST is. Do you UK folks
>> use Daylight Saving Time? If so, +0100 would also refer to the GMT
>> time zone during Daylight Saving Time. Is BST a reference to this
>> state of affairs?
>>
>> It's highly unlikely you'll ever see a timestamp of 24:xx:xx Computer
>> clocks cycle back to 00:00:00 after 23:59:59.
Sometime 23:59:59 is followed by 23:59:60. This is how a leap second is
represented according to the web site for the US Naval Observatory.
pressu...@my-dejanews.com
>
> >I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
> >00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
>
> >Is GMT and BST time zone the same or what?
>
> >What would 24:00:00 and 12:00:00 in time be considered as a.m. or p.m.?
>
>
> leaflet for tourists?
>
> bjg
>
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>
>>>On Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:09:44 GMT, Dominate Tricks
>>><domi...@tricks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>>>>00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
>
>
>offered to dispute my early, one word, straightforward contribution of the
>correct answer. A discussion of the general relevances of time zones and how
>they are affected by the summertime clock adjustments has been presented, yet
>the simple answer has not been shown by anyone by me.
>
>My answer was, of course, 23:00:01.
>
>Searching for intelligent life on AUE, I remain
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>If you are posting a reply, please, do not email it.
>It just confuses me.
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>
How would you say that in German Skitt? Latvian? Yiddish? English?
Albert Marshall
>Dominate Tricks (domi...@tricks.com) wrote:
>
>: I want to know what time this is in GMT from an e-mail?-
>: 00:00:01 +0100 (BST)
>: Is this 1 minute past midnight GMT or 1 minute past noon GMT?
>: Is GMT and BST time zone the same or what?
>:
>: What would 24:00:00 and 12:00:00 in time be considered as a.m. or p.m.?
>:
>: In summer U.K. people don't use GMT, but BST???
>: What does BST stand for?
>: This is confusing.
>:
>: Thoughts?
>
>The +0100 means one hour ahead of GMT, so "00:00:01 +0100" means one
>second (not one minute; that would be 00:01:00) past midnight in the
>time zone immediately to the right of GMT. Paris and Madrid are two
>cities in that time zone. I have no idea what BST is. Do you UK folks
>use Daylight Saving Time? If so, +0100 would also refer to the GMT
>time zone during Daylight Saving Time. Is BST a reference to this
>state of affairs?
Yup. British Summer Time
>
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I checked two reference books I have, a book called "Punctuate it Right!" and
the Chicago Style Manual, regarding the use of time abbreviations. Both agree
on these points:
a.m. means "ante meridiem" or "before the meridiem"
p.m. means "post meridiem" or "after the meridiem" ,
where "meridiem" refers to 12 o'clock noon. Thus, the proper designations are:
Noon: 12:00 m. (that is, the meridiem).
Midnight: 12:00 p.m. (after the meridiem)
There is no 12:00 a.m. Ever. Period. However, because of widespread and
persistent confusion on this point I personally refrain from using the above
designations in most cases since some people may think 12:00 m means
"midnight" - I prefer to clearly identify them as noon or midnight since
everybody knows what that means. The idea, after all, is to clearly
communicate the idea, not just to be technically correct.
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