How do you pronounce "literally"?

[Gus]

Did Chuck Todd really say "lite rally" instead of "literally"??
http://tinyurl.com/bxaqfxy

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/05/jon-stewart-literally-loves-chuck-todds-lite-rally/65331/

Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen the
word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated and said
"butt ox"

[micky]

On Fri, 17 May 2013 23:00:03 -0400, "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Did Chuck Todd really say "lite rally" instead of "literally"??

Would't be surprised. How much of that stuff do they write and how
much do they just read?

>http://tinyurl.com/bxaqfxy
>
>http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/05/jon-stewart-literally-loves-chuck-todds-lite-rally/65331/
>
>Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen the
>word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated and said
>"butt ox"

Until I was in the 10th grade, I had ONLY read facetious and never
heard it. In my mind, I pronounced it, fas-it-a-shus. But in
algebra class the guy behind me used the word at least once a day, and
after a week or two I finally realized it was facetious, and he
pronounced it right.

[Gus]

"micky" <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:j7aep8lg2e1fkvd5l...@4ax.com...

ha... btw, "facetious" has all the vowels in alphabetical order. As does
"abstemious", though that is harder to work into casual conversation.

[Pablo]

Litrully.

--
Pablo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wibbleypants/
http://paulc.es/

[Donna Richoux]

Gus <gus.o...@geemail.com> wrote:

> Did Chuck Todd really say "lite rally" instead of "literally"??
> http://tinyurl.com/bxaqfxy

The second image is a link to the video of "The Daily Show," and the
pronunciation occurs at 3:38. You can hear doubt creeping into the
speaker's voice, but he doesn't correct himself.

This would be a misle.
--
Best - Donna Richoux

[James Silverton]

I'd never heard of a "misle" before but I am reminded that it was quite
late in elementary school that I learned that "misled" was pronounced as
is and not [maIz@ld]

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

[Gus]

"Donna Richoux" <tr...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
news:1l331ek.sr2yoq74zw4gN%tr...@euronet.nl...

What is a "misle"?

The definition below doesn't seem to fit, and I didn't even know there was
such a word. I always say "mist" or "drizzle"


Mi愀le
v. i. 1. To rain in very fine drops, like a thick mist; to mizzle; to
drizzle.
[imp. & p. p. Misled ; p. pr. & vb. n. Misling .]
n. 1. A fine rain; a thick mist; a mizzle; a drizzle.

Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, published 1913 by C. & G. Merriam
Co.

[Joe Fineman]

"Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com> writes:

> Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen
> the word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated
> and said "butt ox"

In the first grade, I read aloud in class about the landing on Ply
Mouth Rock.
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: Every movement is run by the people who show up. :||

[Joe Fineman]

James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> writes:

> I'd never heard of a "misle" before but I am reminded that it was
> quite late in elementary school that I learned that "misled" was
> pronounced as is and not [maIz@ld]

Quine, in _Quiddities_, has a whole article on "Misling". He favors
the word as a handy term for the commercial variety of misleading.

--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: Loyalty is a dipper for the fragile crock of human :||
||: brotherhood. :||

[Mike L]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:11:34 -0400, "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com>
wrote:

I think we should find room and a meaning for "facetatious": it's a
nice-sounding word.

--
Mike.

[Mike L]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 18:19:47 +0200, Pablo <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:

>
>
>Litrully.

That's posh. The ordinary rendering is "lichly".

--
Mike.

[R H Draney]

Mike L filted:

>
>On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:11:34 -0400, "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"micky" <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>news:j7aep8lg2e1fkvd5l...@4ax.com...
>>>

>>> Until I was in the 10th grade, I had ONLY read facetious and never
>>> heard it. In my mind, I pronounced it, fas-it-a-shus. But in
>>> algebra class the guy behind me used the word at least once a day, and
>>> after a week or two I finally realized it was facetious, and he
>>> pronounced it right.
>>
>>
>>ha... btw, "facetious" has all the vowels in alphabetical order. As does
>>"abstemious", though that is harder to work into casual conversation.
>
>I think we should find room and a meaning for "facetatious": it's a
>nice-sounding word.

Meaning: "having many facets", or as Tom Smothers once said, "I have many
faucets"....r


--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[R H Draney]

Joe Fineman filted:

>
>"Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com> writes:
>
>> Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen
>> the word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated
>> and said "butt ox"
>
>In the first grade, I read aloud in class about the landing on Ply
>Mouth Rock.

How far is that from Green Witch?...r

[R H Draney]

Gus filted:

>
>"Donna Richoux" <tr...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>news:1l331ek.sr2yoq74zw4gN%tr...@euronet.nl...
>>

>> This would be a misle.
>

>What is a "misle"?
>
>The definition below doesn't seem to fit, and I didn't even know there was
>such a word. I always say "mist" or "drizzle"
>
>
>Mi愀le
> v. i. 1. To rain in very fine drops, like a thick mist; to mizzle; to
>drizzle.
> [imp. & p. p. Misled ; p. pr. & vb. n. Misling .]
> n. 1. A fine rain; a thick mist; a mizzle; a drizzle.

And now, if Mr Hogg will be so kind as to compose a suitable limerick to feature
the uninflected form....r

[Gus]

"Joe Fineman" <jo...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:uvc6gm...@verizon.net...

> James Silverton <not.jim....@verizon.net> writes:
>
>> I'd never heard of a "misle" before but I am reminded that it was
>> quite late in elementary school that I learned that "misled" was
>> pronounced as is and not [maIz@ld]
>
> Quine, in _Quiddities_, has a whole article on "Misling". He favors
> the word as a handy term for the commercial variety of misleading.

why isn't that in internet dictionaries, even the urban dictionary?

[Gus]

"R H Draney" <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:kn8tr...@drn.newsguy.com...

He was a Master of being facetious.

[Jerry Friedman]

On May 18, 4:05 pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> Gus filted:
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> >"Donna Richoux" <t...@euronet.nl> wrote in message

> >news:1l331ek.sr2yoq74zw4gN%tr...@euronet.nl...
>
> >> This would be a misle.
>
> >What is a "misle"?
>
> >The definition below doesn't seem to fit, and I didn't even know there was
> >such a word.  I always say "mist" or "drizzle"
>

> >Mi´sle

> >      v. i. 1. To rain in very fine drops, like a thick mist; to mizzle; to
> >drizzle.
> >      [imp. & p. p. Misled ; p. pr. & vb. n. Misling .]
> >      n. 1. A fine rain; a thick mist; a mizzle; a drizzle.
>
> And now, if Mr Hogg will be so kind as to compose a suitable limerick to feature
> the uninflected form....r

Is he allowed to rhyme it with "aisle"?

--
Jerry Friedman

[James Hogg]

R H Draney wrote:
> Gus filted:
>> "Donna Richoux" <tr...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:1l331ek.sr2yoq74zw4gN%tr...@euronet.nl...
>>> This would be a misle.
>> What is a "misle"?
>>
>> The definition below doesn't seem to fit, and I didn't even know there was
>> such a word. I always say "mist" or "drizzle"
>>
>>

>> Mi�sle

>> v. i. 1. To rain in very fine drops, like a thick mist; to mizzle; to
>> drizzle.
>> [imp. & p. p. Misled ; p. pr. & vb. n. Misling .]
>> n. 1. A fine rain; a thick mist; a mizzle; a drizzle.
>
> And now, if Mr Hogg will be so kind as to compose a suitable limerick to feature
> the uninflected form....r

A bog-roll producer named Izal
Was in for a cruel surprisal
When somebody said
"We pronounce it 'misled'
"And it isn't the past tense of 'misle'."


You'll find "surprisal" (and "surmisal") in the OED.

--
James

[James Hogg]

Sorry, Rey. That should be:

A bog-roll producer named Izal
Was in for a cruel surprisal
When somebody said
"We pronounce it 'misled'
"And it isn't the past tense of 'misle'."

--
James

[Reinhold {Rey} Aman]

James Hogg wrote:
>
> Sorry, Rey. That should be:
>
> A bog-roll producer named Izal
> Was in for a cruel surprisal
> When somebody said
> "We pronounce it 'misled'
> "And it isn't the past tense of 'misle'."
>

Good man, James.

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

[micky]

On 18 May 2013 15:03:16 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

>Mike L filted:
>>
>>On Sat, 18 May 2013 10:11:34 -0400, "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"micky" <NONONO...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>>news:j7aep8lg2e1fkvd5l...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> Until I was in the 10th grade, I had ONLY read facetious and never
>>>> heard it. In my mind, I pronounced it, fas-it-a-shus. But in
>>>> algebra class the guy behind me used the word at least once a day, and
>>>> after a week or two I finally realized it was facetious, and he
>>>> pronounced it right.
>>>
>>>
>>>ha... btw, "facetious" has all the vowels in alphabetical order. As does
>>>"abstemious", though that is harder to work into casual conversation.
>>
>>I think we should find room and a meaning for "facetatious": it's a
>>nice-sounding word.

Thank you.

>Meaning: "having many facets", or as Tom Smothers once said, "I have many
>faucets"....r

That would be good.

[Whiskers]

On 2013-05-18, Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com> writes:
>
>> Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen
>> the word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated
>> and said "butt ox"
>
> In the first grade, I read aloud in class about the landing on Ply
> Mouth Rock.

I think you'd need to have known that the original place in Devonshire is
at the mouth of the river Plym.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

[Whiskers]

Luxuriously faceted?

[Whiskers]

On 2013-05-18, Gus <gus.o...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Did Chuck Todd really say "lite rally" instead of "literally"??
> http://tinyurl.com/bxaqfxy
>
> http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/05/jon-stewart-literally-loves-chuck-todds-lite-rally/65331/

I say 'litter ully' with the emphasis on the first syllabub.

> Once in early grade school we had to read aloud and I had never seen the
> word "buttocks" in print. All the kids laughed when I hesitated and said
> "butt ox"

I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.

[jgharston]

Whiskers wrote:
> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.

Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.

JGH

[Joe Fineman]

jgharston <j...@mdfs.net> writes:

> Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.

In Bret Harte's "Outcasts of Poker Flat", Achilles appears around the
campfire as Ash Heels.

--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: When depressed, do something hard. :||

[R H Draney]

jgharston filted:

>
>Whiskers wrote:
>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.

We need to get you to Albuquerque....

>Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.

And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own, who never played the Cally Oap....

There's also the pronunciation of "xylophone" in this clip, which we've
discussed here in the past:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjABuQslkqs

[Dr Nick]

R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:

> jgharston filted:
>>
>>Whiskers wrote:
>>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.
>
> We need to get you to Albuquerque....

Will Yowsermight Sam be there?

[Mike L]

On Sat, 18 May 2013 18:21:24 -0400, "Gus" <gus.o...@geemail.com>
wrote:

OED has something very like it:
< misling in mizzle, v.2 View full entry 1583

...trans. To confuse, muddle, mystify; to intoxicate, befuddle....>

Note particularly 1601: I wonder if that example suggests to me that
our ancestors may well have been in on the jocularity. It's probably
too formal for frolicking, though.

< trans. To confuse, muddle, mystify; to intoxicate, befuddle.
1583 P. Stubbes Anat. Abuses (new ed.) i. sig. Hii, Their heades
pretely mizzeled with wine.
1599 H. Porter Angry Women Abington (1841) 48 What though he be
mump, misled, blind..? tis no consequent to me.
1601 Bp. W. Barlow Def. Protestants Relig. 81 They were by their
owne ignorance mizeled, or by their blind guides miss-led.

1942 Amer. Speech 17 171 To Mizzle... The writer's informant used
it in the sense of �to confuse� or �to muddle�.>

--
Mike.

[Mike L]

Don't forget the celebrated writer to editors, "Misled of Isleworth".

--
Mike.

[Mike L]

On 18 May 2013 15:04:35 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

Dunno, but from You Shan't to Silly 'tis thirty-five leagues.

--
Mike.

[Robert Bannister]

Which makes you wonder why they spelt it that way if wasn't meant to
rhyme with "lime". Usually, when "y" is the stressed syllable, it is
pronounced /aI/.

Since it is English, of course, there are bound to be many exceptions -
there are probably rhythmic hymns about it.

--
Robert Bannister

[Robert Bannister]

I still say 'picture skew' and 'eye so skeelees' to myself when writing
those words, along with 'bee ee ay you - tee eye eff you - ell', which I
think I picked up from my mother.


--
Robert Bannister

[Whiskers]

I expect that "everybody knew" that the river was pronounced [plIm] but
looked nicer if you wrote it with a y. The estuary [1] was probably known
as [plIm] [maUT] which would elide into [plImm@T] and eventually [plIm@T].
The spelling of the place-name would have become established before formal
spelling rules or conventions took hold.

Proper nouns are pretty much exempt from the spelling and pronunciation
conventions applicable to other words.

[1] The waterway is (or was) important enough for various parts of it to
have names of their own; "Cattewater" and "the Laira" still appear on
modern maps and charts.

[Whiskers]

Well he has invented his own instrument ...

[Robin Bignall]

I do similar things, and I think it's probably because of learning to
read very early in life, and not being able to bother an adult each time
we came across what looked like a weird word.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)

[R H Draney]

Whiskers filted:

>
>On 2013-05-19, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> There's also the pronunciation of "xylophone" in this clip, which we've
>> discussed here in the past:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjABuQslkqs
>

>Well he has invented his own instrument ...

The comments in the years since I posted the clip to YouTube are an excellent
indicator of what I call the Beavis Effect: any innocent utterance can be taken
to have a salacious interpretation, and you're a hopeless prude if you don't
think of it at the same time as everyone else....r

[Mike L]

On 20 May 2013 17:30:00 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>

wrote:

>Whiskers filted:
>>
>>On 2013-05-19, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> There's also the pronunciation of "xylophone" in this clip, which we've
>>> discussed here in the past:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjABuQslkqs
>>
>>Well he has invented his own instrument ...
>
>The comments in the years since I posted the clip to YouTube are an excellent
>indicator of what I call the Beavis Effect: any innocent utterance can be taken
>to have a salacious interpretation, and you're a hopeless prude if you don't
>think of it at the same time as everyone else....r

You ain't just clappin' Dixie.

--
Mike.

[Evan Kirshenbaum]

R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:

> jgharston filted:
>>
>>Whiskers wrote:
>>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.
>
> We need to get you to Albuquerque....
>
>>Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.
>
> And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own,

Never having seen the name printed (nor known anybody with it), that's
how I mentally pronounced it on first reading.

> who never played the Cally Oap....
>
> There's also the pronunciation of "xylophone" in this clip, which we've
> discussed here in the past:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjABuQslkqs
>
> ....r

As soon as the Frinchmin had all been appointed to some ixalted
toitle, Jimmy give the signal an' his myrmidians kem pourin' in,
an' the clubs began to swing until it sounded loike a zillophone
orchestra takin' its spite out iv grand opera.

Robert Alexander Wason, "Jimmy Hogan",
_The Metropolitan Magazine_, October,
1907

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
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SF Bay Area (1982-) |looking on the bright side of any
Chicago (1964-1982) |catastrophe. When you quit looking
|on the bright side, the catastrophe
evan.kir...@gmail.com |is still there.
| P.J. O'Rourke
http://www.kirshenbaum.net/

[Cora Fuchs]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:14:34 -0700, Evan Kirshenbaum
<evan.kir...@gmail.com> wrote:

>R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:

>> And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own,
>
>Never having seen the name printed (nor known anybody with it), that's
>how I mentally pronounced it on first reading.

I knew the name from having seen Hermione Gingold on television. You
were probably too young to see most of her work when it first came
out, but there's always The Rerun Channel, right?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0320006/?ref_=sr_1

[Robert Bannister]

On 22/05/13 9:14 AM, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:
>
>> jgharston filted:
>>>
>>> Whiskers wrote:
>>>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>>>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.
>>
>> We need to get you to Albuquerque....
>>
>>> Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.
>>
>> And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own,
>
> Never having seen the name printed (nor known anybody with it), that's
> how I mentally pronounced it on first reading.

I might not have known had it not been for the English actress, Hermione
Gingold, who used to appear regularly.

I note that my spelling checker (English/UK) rejects Hermione and
suggests the even more unlikely "Thermionic".
--
Robert Bannister

[Nick Spalding]

Cora Fuchs wrote, in <p42rp85klq6opl16g...@4ax.com>
on Wed, 22 May 2013 20:10:40 -0700:

There was also her near contemporary Hermione Baddeley in the same line
of business. G was a few years older than B but they died within a year
of each other.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermione_Baddeley>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermione_Gingold>

--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

[the Omrud]

On 22/05/2013 02:14, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:
>
>> jgharston filted:
>>>
>>> Whiskers wrote:
>>>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>>>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.
>>
>> We need to get you to Albuquerque....
>>
>>> Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.
>>
>> And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own,
>
> Never having seen the name printed (nor known anybody with it), that's
> how I mentally pronounced it on first reading.

My children did the same.

--
David

[Mike L]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:33:38 +0100, the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com>
wrote:

She's in Shake's Winter's Tale, among other tales. Wkp tells me also:
"French frigate Hermione (1779), a French frigate that carried La
Fayette to join the American fight for independence in 1780". It seems
to have been a very popular British and French ship name.

--
Mike.

[Mike L]

And, I see, the civilian name of a _beautiful_ Scottish steam yacht
purchased into the USN as USS Hawk in 1898.

--
Mike.

[CDB]

On 23/05/2013 6:28 PM, Mike L wrote:

> the Omrud <usenet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
>>> R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:
>>>> jgharston filted:
>>>>> Whiskers wrote:

>>>>>> I first encountered "picturesque" in print, and to this day have to
>>>>>> concentrate not to say 'picture skew'.

>>>> We need to get you to Albuquerque....

>>>>> Percy Phone, Penny Lope and Eve Line.

>>>> And Harry Potter's friend, Hermy Own,

>>> Never having seen the name printed (nor known anybody with it), that's
>>> how I mentally pronounced it on first reading.

>> My children did the same.

> She's in Shake's Winter's Tale, among other tales. Wkp tells me also:
> "French frigate Hermione (1779), a French frigate that carried La
> Fayette to join the American fight for independence in 1780". It seems
> to have been a very popular British and French ship name.

Launched by Helen, out of Menelaus, innit.

[Mike L]

Or even v-v.

--
Mike.