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chandelle
Jul 30, 2021, 10:49:30 PM7/30/21
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Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
Thanks in advance,
Thanks in advance,
Peter Moylan
Jul 31, 2021, 12:09:55 AM7/31/21
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On 31/07/21 13:49, chandelle wrote:
> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
> adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
> adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
know what the verb means.
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Mark Brader
Jul 31, 2021, 12:50:20 AM7/31/21
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"Chandelle":
to look up what it meant.
That said, if you are inclined to use it at all, then I see no reason
to say there's anything wrong with "adducement".
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m...@vex.net | the US Constitution." --James Hogg
> > Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
> > adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> > sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
Peter Moylan:
> > adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> > sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> know what the verb means.
I'd tend to agree with that; I know I've seen it at some time but I had
> know what the verb means.
to look up what it meant.
That said, if you are inclined to use it at all, then I see no reason
to say there's anything wrong with "adducement".
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Mark Brader, Toronto | "Strange commas are enshrined in
m...@vex.net | the US Constitution." --James Hogg
bil...@shaw.ca
Jul 31, 2021, 2:13:35 AM7/31/21
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On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 9:50:20 PM UTC-7, Mark Brader wrote:
> "Chandelle":
> > > Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
> > > adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> > > sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> Peter Moylan:
> > The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> > know what the verb means.
> I'd tend to agree with that; I know I've seen it at some time but I had
> to look up what it meant.
>
> That said, if you are inclined to use it at all, then I see no reason
> to say there's anything wrong with "adducement".
Adducement could sensibly mean material brought forward in argument or evidence.
> "Chandelle":
> > > Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
> > > adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
> > > sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> Peter Moylan:
> > The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> > know what the verb means.
> I'd tend to agree with that; I know I've seen it at some time but I had
> to look up what it meant.
>
> That said, if you are inclined to use it at all, then I see no reason
> to say there's anything wrong with "adducement".
A Web search finds only 5,000 or so instances, but there seems to be a consistent
meaning along the lines of the above in the results, and I'm prepared to endorse its
word-ness.
bill
Peter Moylan
Jul 31, 2021, 4:05:11 AM7/31/21
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counts them. As always, you have to take Google counts with a grain of salt.
(I searched for adducement -adduce. Without that qualification, it seems
to search for all inflected forms of adduce.)
Dingbat
Jul 31, 2021, 6:15:37 AM7/31/21
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Jerry Friedman
Jul 31, 2021, 11:14:53 AM7/31/21
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minus sign, and this use of it can be very helpful.
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Jerry Friedman
Jul 31, 2021, 11:15:35 AM7/31/21
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On 7/30/21 8:49 PM, chandelle wrote:
> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
>
> Thanks in advance,
Example? Evidence?
> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
>
> Thanks in advance,
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Pierre Jelenc
Jul 31, 2021, 4:01:56 PM7/31/21
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In article <5c79affb-1cd0-4fe1...@googlegroups.com>,
its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
Pierre
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chandelle <ra...@samura.ai> wrote:
>Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
>although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
>Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
>although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
Pierre
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Mark Brader
Jul 31, 2021, 5:40:37 PM7/31/21
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"Chandelle":
people are familiar with such words, that won't confuse anyone, at that.
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>> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
>> although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>> prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
Pierre Jelenc:
>> although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>> prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
> its Latin etymon?
Hmm. I see that can refer to either adducing or adducting, but I guess if
> its Latin etymon?
people are familiar with such words, that won't confuse anyone, at that.
--
Mark Brader | "It never occurred to me that a living person could be
Toronto | used as a blowtorch, but we admit human beings are a
m...@vex.net | bit special, don't we?" --Hal Clement: STILL RIVER
Jerry Friedman
Jul 31, 2021, 6:31:33 PM7/31/21
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On 7/31/21 2:01 PM, Pierre Jelenc wrote:
> In article <5c79affb-1cd0-4fe1...@googlegroups.com>,
> chandelle <ra...@samura.ai> wrote:
>> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
>> although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>> prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
>
> Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
> its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
Maybe what "chandelle" wants is more like an inducement than an induction.
> In article <5c79affb-1cd0-4fe1...@googlegroups.com>,
> chandelle <ra...@samura.ai> wrote:
>> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
>> although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
>> prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
>
> Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
> its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
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Ken Blake
Jul 31, 2021, 7:27:34 PM7/31/21
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chandelle
Jul 31, 2021, 8:27:35 PM7/31/21
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On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 12:01:56 AM UTC+4, Pierre Jelenc wrote:
> In article <5c79affb-1cd0-4fe1...@googlegroups.com>,
> chandelle <ra...@samura.ai> wrote:
> >Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
> >although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
> >prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
> its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
Pierre, thanks a lot. 'Adduction' seems perfectly fit for the intended purposes.
> In article <5c79affb-1cd0-4fe1...@googlegroups.com>,
> chandelle <ra...@samura.ai> wrote:
> >Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to adducement,
> >although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a sentence like, "We
> >prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> Why not the plain "adduction", which has a long history going back to
> its Latin etymon? The OED has citations going back to the mid-1600s.
bil...@shaw.ca
Aug 1, 2021, 2:05:21 AM8/1/21
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On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 1:05:11 AM UTC-7, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 31/07/21 17:13, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> >
> > Adducement could sensibly mean material brought forward in argument or evidence.
> > A Web search finds only 5,000 or so instances, but there seems to be a consistent
> > meaning along the lines of the above in the results, and I'm prepared to endorse its
> > word-ness.
> About 5,000 results according to Google's estinate, but 100 if a human
> counts them. As always, you have to take Google counts with a grain of salt.
I always do. No further research was needed to conclude that "adducement"
> On 31/07/21 17:13, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> >
> > Adducement could sensibly mean material brought forward in argument or evidence.
> > A Web search finds only 5,000 or so instances, but there seems to be a consistent
> > meaning along the lines of the above in the results, and I'm prepared to endorse its
> > word-ness.
> About 5,000 results according to Google's estinate, but 100 if a human
> counts them. As always, you have to take Google counts with a grain of salt.
does not appear very often on the Web, but that when it does, it usually relates to
the meaning I suggested above.
bill
Lewis
Aug 1, 2021, 2:28:36 PM8/1/21
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In message <se2ief$5eg$1...@dont-email.me> Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 31/07/21 13:49, chandelle wrote:
>> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
>> adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
>> sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> know what the verb means.
I've never seen it, but I suspect it must be related to induce, and
> On 31/07/21 13:49, chandelle wrote:
>> Is there a noun of 'adduce'? I'm looking for a word akin to
>> adducement, although I know that that isn't legit, for use in a
>> sentence like, "We prefer to let our adducements speak for us".
> The reason there's no noun (as far as I know) is that most people don't
> know what the verb means.
inducement is the noun corm of induce, so I don't see why adducement
would not be an acceptable noun form of adduce, if needed.
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