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Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

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bruce bowser

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Aug 11, 2021, 1:19:33 PM8/11/21
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Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 11, 2021, 1:27:23 PM8/11/21
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On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 11, 2021, 1:29:24 PM8/11/21
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On 2021-08-11 17:27:18 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:

> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
>> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
>
> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.

No, but this is bruce bowser: has he ever made a useful post?


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Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 11, 2021, 8:16:05 PM8/11/21
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In recent months, more than the Franco-Brit has.

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Aug 12, 2021, 5:45:45 AM8/12/21
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On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
> > Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
>
> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.
>

It isn't. The mayonnaise is spelled Hellmans.

The province of Afghanistan is Helmand.

The North Sea island is Heligoland.

The phrase required to answer the question "Do we need another nonsensical bowser post?" is
"Hell, no!"

HTH

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Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 12, 2021, 5:51:30 AM8/12/21
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Actually, Y TDH. TYVM.

Chrysi Cat

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Aug 12, 2021, 7:23:37 AM8/12/21
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On 8/12/2021 3:45 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
> Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
>>
>> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.
>>
>
> It isn't. The mayonnaise is spelled Hellmans.
>
> The province of Afghanistan is Helmand.
>
> The North Sea island is Heligoland.

And, quite germane to this conversation, a parasitic worm is a helminth
and probably is pronounced more similarly to bowser's proposed
pronunciation for "helmet" than "helmet" actually is.

>
> The phrase required to answer the question "Do we need another nonsensical bowser post?" is
> "Hell, no!"
>
> HTH
>


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Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Aug 12, 2021, 8:57:03 AM8/12/21
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 10:45:42 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
>Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
>> > Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
>>
>> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.
>>
>
>It isn't. The mayonnaise is spelled Hellmans.

Actually "Hellmann's"
>
>The province of Afghanistan is Helmand.
>
>The North Sea island is Heligoland.
>
>The phrase required to answer the question "Do we need another nonsensical bowser post?" is
>"Hell, no!"
>
>HTH

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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Quinn C

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Aug 12, 2021, 9:21:56 AM8/12/21
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* Kerr-Mudd, John:

> On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
> Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

It's the HELEMENT of surprise!

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important to them, there ought to be as many for love.
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spains...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2021, 1:28:09 PM8/12/21
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On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 6:19:33 PM UTC+1, bruce bowser wrote:
> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

I guess you have probably surmised that you are talking in dialect.
Charles Dickens in "The Pickwick Papers" nailed dialect, with
"chimbley", "Samivel", "hextra-power", and thousands of other
dialect words that

spains...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2021, 1:33:12 PM8/12/21
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...people assume are ignorant. We like dialect until it gets written
down. Cf Mark Twain or William Faulkner.

Sam Plusnet

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Aug 12, 2021, 4:36:56 PM8/12/21
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On 12-Aug-21 12:23, Chrysi Cat wrote:
> On 8/12/2021 3:45 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
>> Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> Good question.  Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
>>>
>>> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.
>>>
>>
>> It isn't. The mayonnaise is spelled Hellmans.
>>
>> The province of Afghanistan is Helmand.
>>
>> The North Sea island is Heligoland.
>
> And, quite germane to this conversation, a parasitic worm is a helminth
> and probably is pronounced more similarly to bowser's proposed
> pronunciation for "helmet" than "helmet" actually is.
>

Now why should someone's thoughts leap to a parasitic worm when musing
on a bowser question?

Hmm? Thread started by bowser, response mentioning a parasitic worm.
Probably no more than a coincidence.


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Neill Massello

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Aug 12, 2021, 4:40:41 PM8/12/21
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On 2021-08-11 at 11:19:31 MDT, "bruce bowser" <bruce2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?

Because we have beent conquered by The Knights Who Say Ent.

bruce bowser

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Aug 12, 2021, 4:41:43 PM8/12/21
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Helminth is another name for worm, parasitic or not. Quite coincidence though, of course. Sorry Aethel couldn't catch that.

spains...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2021, 4:43:32 PM8/12/21
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Reply by someone from Wales? Brexit-scared? Another coincidence?

spains...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2021, 4:51:31 PM8/12/21
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We love Wales. Tenby, Pemboke, Manorbier, Swansea, the Gower. You
cannot find anywhere more beautiful in the UK (unless you go to Cornwall,
and even then you are struggling).

Why is it you Welsh people are so fighting-ready?

bruce bowser

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Aug 12, 2021, 5:41:45 PM8/12/21
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To us in the states, you make Wales seem like a no-go zone.

bruce bowser

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Aug 12, 2021, 5:53:06 PM8/12/21
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I like Locke (2013) from there, which was the movie about the guy sitting in the car talking on a car phone the whole time.

Peter Moylan

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Aug 12, 2021, 9:29:41 PM8/12/21
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On 12/08/21 20:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:

> The North Sea island is Heligoland.

When I was a child I quite enjoyed riding on a heligoland.

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Kerr-Mudd, John

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Aug 13, 2021, 5:27:34 AM8/13/21
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:56:56 +0100
"Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 10:45:42 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <ad...@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 18:27:18 +0100
> >Richard Heathfield <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/08/2021 18:19, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> > Good question. Why 'helmet" is pronounced HELMENT?
> >>
> >> It is? I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.
> >>
> >
> >It isn't. The mayonnaise is spelled Hellmans.
>
> Actually "Hellmann's"
> >

Ah good old Skitt. glad to be corrected.

> >The province of Afghanistan is Helmand.
> >
> >The North Sea island is Heligoland.
> >
> >The phrase required to answer the question "Do we need another nonsensical bowser post?" is
> >"Hell, no!"
> >
> >HTH
>
> --
> Peter Duncanson, UK
> (in alt.usage.english)


Jerry Friedman

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Aug 13, 2021, 8:59:53 AM8/13/21
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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 7:29:41 PM UTC-6, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 12/08/21 20:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>
> > The North Sea island is Heligoland.
> When I was a child I quite enjoyed riding on a heligoland.

Well, I'm whooshed.

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musika

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Aug 13, 2021, 9:15:09 AM8/13/21
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My guess, based on scansion, was merry-go-round.

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bruce bowser

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Aug 13, 2021, 2:16:30 PM8/13/21
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On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 9:29:41 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 12/08/21 20:45, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>
> > The North Sea island is Heligoland.
> When I was a child I quite enjoyed riding on a heligoland.

Why not just pronounce it like they do on the continent and say Helgoland?
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