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minimus
Feb 26, 2012, 6:24:54 AM2/26/12
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Hello,
I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
describing the dish and call
the starter "overture",
the main course "?" and
the dessert "coda".
Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
called; hence the question mark.
So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
between overture and coda?
I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
describing the dish and call
the starter "overture",
the main course "?" and
the dessert "coda".
Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
called; hence the question mark.
So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
between overture and coda?
Duggy
Feb 26, 2012, 6:35:24 AM2/26/12
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On Feb 26, 9:24 pm, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> called; hence the question mark.
> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
> between overture and coda?
I would have thought that post dinner drinks would be the coda.
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> called; hence the question mark.
> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
> between overture and coda?
===
= DUG.
===
Peter Young
Feb 26, 2012, 6:35:10 AM2/26/12
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On 26 Feb 2012 minimus <min...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
Act 1?
> Hello,
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
Act 2 and Finale?
Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
minimus
Feb 26, 2012, 6:46:19 AM2/26/12
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story regards the whole dish: starter, main course, dessert.
I am only asking about the missing link. Nothing less, nothing more.
minimus
Feb 26, 2012, 6:47:20 AM2/26/12
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On 2.26.2012 12:35, Peter Young wrote:
> On 26 Feb 2012 minimus<min...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>
>> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
>> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
>> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
>> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
>> describing the dish and call
>
>> the starter "overture",
>> the main course "?" and
>
> Act 1?
>
>> the dessert "coda".
>
> Act 2 and Finale?
>
> Peter.
>
Does not really fit. I don't understand your grouping. Why would I call
> On 26 Feb 2012 minimus<min...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>
>> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
>> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
>> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
>> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
>> describing the dish and call
>
>> the starter "overture",
>> the main course "?" and
>
> Act 1?
>
>> the dessert "coda".
>
> Act 2 and Finale?
>
> Peter.
>
starter and main course, act1, and the dessert act2 and finale?
Django Cat
Feb 26, 2012, 6:48:39 AM2/26/12
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DC
--
the Omrud
Feb 26, 2012, 6:51:25 AM2/26/12
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and would prefer "finale". The middle bit consists of a large number of
pieces which are variously: chorus, aria, possibly symphonia, trio, duet
and no doubt many more. I quite like "chorus" as it's a bigger word
than the others, to describe the main course. Or possibly "symphony",
or "symphonia"?
You could move away from opera and have overture, symphony and concerto
(although these are in the wrong order for a concert).
--
David
Stan Brown
Feb 26, 2012, 7:48:34 AM2/26/12
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Main theme?
Principal subject?
"Theme and variations" is not exactly what you said, but it sounds
good to me. :-)
Question:
Is the coda really an independent section? Especially in opera and
oratorio, I don't remember seeing anything labeled "coda". For operas
there's usually a "finale". Usually I think of a coda as the end
part of a movement, after a climax that *could* have served as the
end. Examples from Beethoven: the first movement of his fifth
symphony and the end of a section of his Missa Solemnis -- the
Gloria, IIRC.
--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
--Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com
James Hogg
Feb 26, 2012, 7:59:18 AM2/26/12
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--
James
Don Phillipson
Feb 26, 2012, 8:55:06 AM2/26/12
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"minimus" <min...@live.co.uk> wrote in message
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Similarities between a dinner and a symphony or opera are too slight
to support a common nomenclature. (The quest for a missing link
is a wild goose chase, so far as neither meals nor music provide for
missing links.)
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
news:jid62b$j3a$1...@dont-email.me...
> On 2.26.2012 12:35, Duggy wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 9:24 pm, minimus<mini...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
>>> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
>>> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
>>> between overture and coda?
>
>> On Feb 26, 9:24 pm, minimus<mini...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>>> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
>>> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
>>> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
>>> between overture and coda?
>
> I am referring to the dish only. No after drinks or anything. So the story
> regards the whole dish: starter, main course, dessert.
>
> I am only asking about the missing link. Nothing less, nothing more.
Enough evidence has cumulated to confirm the OP was a Bad Idea.
> regards the whole dish: starter, main course, dessert.
>
> I am only asking about the missing link. Nothing less, nothing more.
Similarities between a dinner and a symphony or opera are too slight
to support a common nomenclature. (The quest for a missing link
is a wild goose chase, so far as neither meals nor music provide for
missing links.)
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
musika
Feb 26, 2012, 11:05:30 AM2/26/12
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Overture
Interlude
Finale
or
Exposition
Development
Coda
or
Intro
Middle 8
Outro
for a more "pop" feel.
--
Ray
UK
semir...@my-deja.com
Feb 26, 2012, 11:36:33 AM2/26/12
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On Feb 26, 12:24 pm, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
>
Start with a prelude
> Hello,
>
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
>
Continue with a symphony, concerto or even a magnum opus
End with a caprice
Request audience participation.
MC
Feb 26, 2012, 12:43:28 PM2/26/12
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In article <jid4q7$e05$1...@dont-email.me>, minimus <min...@live.co.uk>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
>
> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> called; hence the question mark.
How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
--
"If you can, tell me something happy."
- Marybones
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
>
> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> called; hence the question mark.
--
"If you can, tell me something happy."
- Marybones
Peter Young
Feb 26, 2012, 1:27:52 PM2/26/12
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this wouldn't be the action of the guests!
Jerry Friedman
Feb 26, 2012, 1:45:19 PM2/26/12
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> Usually I think of a coda as the end
> part of a movement, after a climax that *could* have served as the
> end. Examples from Beethoven: the first movement of his fifth
> symphony and the end of a section of his Missa Solemnis -- the
> Gloria, IIRC.
to finish things off. In the many forms that repeat the beginning--
ABA, sonata-allegro, minuet and trio, rondo, etc.--I think the coda is
whatever comes after the final repetition.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Feb 26, 2012, 1:40:26 PM2/26/12
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On Feb 26, 10:43 am, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> In article <jid4q7$e0...@dont-email.me>, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk>
"Allegro" seems more like dessert than "chaconne" (Buxtehude) or
"variations" (Franck), though "riffs" (Bernstein) might work in a
weird way.
"Introduction, allegro, and coda" might almost work.
If you do anything like this, your guests may argue about whether the
terms were appropriate, which might be good or bad from your point of
view.
--
Jerry Friedman thanks Google.
> In article <jid4q7$e0...@dont-email.me>, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> > starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> > will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> > mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> > describing the dish and call
>
> > the starter "overture",
> > the main course "?" and
> > the dessert "coda".
>
> > Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> > final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> > called; hence the question mark.
>
> How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
Or "prelude, fugue, and allegro", with reference to a piece by Bach?
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> > starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> > will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> > mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> > describing the dish and call
>
> > the starter "overture",
> > the main course "?" and
> > the dessert "coda".
>
> > Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> > final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> > called; hence the question mark.
>
> How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
"Allegro" seems more like dessert than "chaconne" (Buxtehude) or
"variations" (Franck), though "riffs" (Bernstein) might work in a
weird way.
"Introduction, allegro, and coda" might almost work.
If you do anything like this, your guests may argue about whether the
terms were appropriate, which might be good or bad from your point of
view.
--
Jerry Friedman thanks Google.
Mike L
Feb 26, 2012, 5:13:27 PM2/26/12
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Allegretto, Andante cantabile, Scherzo.
I think the problem with the original idea is that "coda" isn't a
match for "overture". A sort of unofficial sonata form could have
"Introduction", "Development", and "Coda".
You could scare the guests with "Dies irae", "Quid sum miser",
"Ingemisco" (optional), and "Libera me".
--
Mike.
Don Phillipson
Feb 26, 2012, 5:54:15 PM2/26/12
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"musika" <mUs...@SPAMNOTexcite.com> wrote in message
news:jidl8d$78k$1...@dont-email.me...
> You could use:
>
> Overture
> Interlude
> Finale
When a meal has only three courses is planned, it seems a bit silly to
call the main course the Interlude. Nomenclature was easier for the
Victorians who served 10 or 12 courses, interspersing heavy ones
with light refreshing ones. They did indeed eat more than is nowadays
common, but their serving styles were nearer Spanish tapas than we
might have thought. If a cook was capable of creating 10 or 12 different
but equally tasty dishes, an employer was glad to show them off.
news:jidl8d$78k$1...@dont-email.me...
> You could use:
>
> Overture
> Interlude
> Finale
call the main course the Interlude. Nomenclature was easier for the
Victorians who served 10 or 12 courses, interspersing heavy ones
with light refreshing ones. They did indeed eat more than is nowadays
common, but their serving styles were nearer Spanish tapas than we
might have thought. If a cook was capable of creating 10 or 12 different
but equally tasty dishes, an employer was glad to show them off.
minimus
Feb 26, 2012, 5:57:16 PM2/26/12
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and make something up!
Jerry Friedman
Feb 26, 2012, 6:34:10 PM2/26/12
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On Feb 26, 3:13 pm, Mike L <n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:40:26 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>
>
>
> <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 26, 10:43 am, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> >> In article <jid4q7$e0...@dont-email.me>, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Hello,
>
> >> > I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> >> > starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> >> > will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> >> > mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> >> > describing the dish and call
>
> >> > the starter "overture",
> >> > the main course "?" and
> >> > the dessert "coda".
>
> >> > Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> >> > final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> >> > called; hence the question mark.
>
> >> How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
>
> >Or "prelude, fugue, and allegro", with reference to a piece by Bach?
...
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:40:26 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
>
>
>
> <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 26, 10:43 am, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> >> In article <jid4q7$e0...@dont-email.me>, minimus <mini...@live.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Hello,
>
> >> > I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> >> > starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> >> > will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> >> > mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> >> > describing the dish and call
>
> >> > the starter "overture",
> >> > the main course "?" and
> >> > the dessert "coda".
>
> >> > Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> >> > final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> >> > called; hence the question mark.
>
> >> How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
>
> >Or "prelude, fugue, and allegro", with reference to a piece by Bach?
> Introit, Anthem, Gloria.
>
> Allegretto, Andante cantabile, Scherzo.
If you're serving trifle, you could call the last movement
"Bagatelle".
> You could scare the guests with "Dies irae", "Quid sum miser",
> "Ingemisco" (optional), and "Libera me".
--
Jerry Friedman
R H Draney
Feb 26, 2012, 7:30:35 PM2/26/12
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minimus filted:
When you're buying the ingredients, make sure to bring a piece of paper headed
"Chopin Liszt"....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
"Chopin Liszt"....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Stan Brown
Feb 26, 2012, 8:51:46 PM2/26/12
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:54:15 -0500, Don Phillipson wrote:
> When a meal has only three courses is planned, it seems a bit silly to
> call the main course the Interlude.
D'accord. The Interlude would be an amuse-bouche, something like
> When a meal has only three courses is planned, it seems a bit silly to
> call the main course the Interlude.
three roasted pine nuts in a basil leaf, or a teaspoon of lemon
sorbet.
Stan Brown
Feb 26, 2012, 8:52:26 PM2/26/12
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:27:52 GMT, Peter Young wrote:
>
> On 26 Feb 2012 MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> > How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
>
> The literal meaning of "fugue" is "flight", so one would hope that
> this wouldn't be the action of the guests!
It could be a flight of several different small items, or several
>
> On 26 Feb 2012 MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
> > How about "toccata" followed by "fugue"?
>
> The literal meaning of "fugue" is "flight", so one would hope that
> this wouldn't be the action of the guests!
wines.
John Varela
Feb 26, 2012, 9:09:06 PM2/26/12
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:24:54 UTC, minimus <min...@live.co.uk>
wrote:
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
Other possibilities:
Introduction
Exposition and Development
Recapitulation
First Movement
Second Movement
Third Movement
Prelude
Fugue
Finale
--
John Varela
wrote:
> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
> describing the dish and call
>
> the starter "overture",
> the main course "?" and
> the dessert "coda".
Introduction
Exposition and Development
Recapitulation
First Movement
Second Movement
Third Movement
Prelude
Fugue
Finale
--
John Varela
Jerry Friedman
Feb 26, 2012, 9:26:38 PM2/26/12
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leftoverture, as they say in Kansas.
--
Jerry Friedman
Reinhold {Rey} Aman
Feb 26, 2012, 10:23:42 PM2/26/12
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John Varela wrote:
>
> Other possibilities:
>
> Introduction
> Exposition and Development
> Recapitulation
>
> First Movement
> Second Movement
> Third Movement
>
> Prelude
> Fugue
> Finale
>
Not to mention:
>
> Other possibilities:
>
> Introduction
> Exposition and Development
> Recapitulation
>
> First Movement
> Second Movement
> Third Movement
>
> Prelude
> Fugue
> Finale
>
Foreplay
Coitus
Ejaculation
--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~
I did not have sexual relations with that woman!
Robert Bannister
Feb 26, 2012, 11:23:30 PM2/26/12
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On 26/02/12 7:35 PM, Peter Young wrote:
> On 26 Feb 2012 minimus<min...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>
>> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
>> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
>> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
>> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
>> describing the dish and call
>
>> the starter "overture",
>> the main course "?" and
>
> Act 1?
>
>> the dessert "coda".
>
> Act 2 and Finale?
>
> Peter.
>
Or, if you want a complete symphony, you'll need to add biscuits and
> On 26 Feb 2012 minimus<min...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>
>> I will cook for my guests and the dish will consist of three parts:
>> starter, main course, and dessert. But these guests are special and I
>> will invite them for the dinner with a mail. And I want to make that
>> mail elegant. Now, these guests are musicians. In my mail, I thought of
>> describing the dish and call
>
>> the starter "overture",
>> the main course "?" and
>
> Act 1?
>
>> the dessert "coda".
>
> Act 2 and Finale?
>
> Peter.
>
cheese to give you:
The normal four-movement form became (Jackson 1999, 26; Stein 1979, 106):
an opening sonata or allegro starter
a slow movement, such as adagio meat course
a minuet with trio or "Beethoven four-movement solo sonata": scherzo
sorbet or dessert
an allegro, rondo, or sonata cheeses, coffee and liqueurs
--
Robert Bannister
Robert Bannister
Feb 26, 2012, 11:25:30 PM2/26/12
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On 27/02/12 9:51 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:54:15 -0500, Don Phillipson wrote:
>> When a meal has only three courses is planned, it seems a bit silly to
>> call the main course the Interlude.
>
> D'accord. The Interlude would be an amuse-bouche, something like
> three roasted pine nuts in a basil leaf, or a teaspoon of lemon
> sorbet.
OMG - that would cost at least $30.
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:54:15 -0500, Don Phillipson wrote:
>> When a meal has only three courses is planned, it seems a bit silly to
>> call the main course the Interlude.
>
> D'accord. The Interlude would be an amuse-bouche, something like
> three roasted pine nuts in a basil leaf, or a teaspoon of lemon
> sorbet.
--
Robert Bannister
Peter Young
Feb 27, 2012, 3:15:38 AM2/27/12
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Chopin bored.
CT
Feb 27, 2012, 6:40:16 AM2/27/12
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I had a very nice meal at a top Indian restaurant in London on Friday
evening. The starter I had was "Minced lamb kebab with Pomegranate
seeds". There were five (I counted them!) Pomegranate seeds.
I think it was only about £10 ($16) though.
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Chris
Duggy
Feb 27, 2012, 6:53:57 AM2/27/12
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Duggy
Feb 27, 2012, 6:52:07 AM2/27/12
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> > On Feb 26, 9:24 pm, minimus<mini...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> I am referring to the dish only. No after drinks or anything. So the
> story regards the whole dish: starter, main course, dessert.
>
> I am only asking about the missing link. Nothing less, nothing more.
Then you don't understand music or eating.
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> >> the starter "overture",
> >> the main course "?" and
> >> the main course "?" and
> >> the dessert "coda".
> >> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> >> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> >> called; hence the question mark.
>
> >> Overture is the introductory piece of an opera or oratorio. Coda is the
> >> final piece. But I don't know what the main part of an opera would be
> >> called; hence the question mark.
>
> >> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
> >> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
> >> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
> >> between overture and coda?
>
> > I would have thought that post dinner drinks would be the coda.
> >> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
> >> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
> >> between overture and coda?
>
> I am referring to the dish only. No after drinks or anything. So the
> story regards the whole dish: starter, main course, dessert.
>
> I am only asking about the missing link. Nothing less, nothing more.
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Peter Duncanson (BrE)
Feb 27, 2012, 7:50:44 AM2/27/12
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Mike L
Feb 27, 2012, 5:54:08 PM2/27/12
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:54:15 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
set for Christmas, and the dinner plates are 11" across, with even the
side plates measuring 8.6", while the soup bowls leave a space above
an astonishing Imperial pint and a quarter (25 fl.oz.). I've heard it
suggested that using smaller plates helps one to tackle obesity, and I
don't disbelieve it - though it wouldn't work to well if one used
smaller plates for ten courses.
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Mike.
Mike L
Feb 27, 2012, 5:57:53 PM2/27/12
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 08:15:38 GMT, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
wrote:
>On 27 Feb 2012 R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> minimus filted:
>>>
>>>On 26-Feb-12 12:24, minimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
>>>> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
>>>> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
>>>> between overture and coda?
>>>
>>>Thank you everybody for all your answers. I will consolidate the ideas
>>>and make something up!
>
>> When you're buying the ingredients, make sure to bring a piece of
>> paper headed
>> "Chopin Liszt"....r
>
>And when you're preparing your ingredients, make sure you use your
>Chopin bored.
>
He'd better not offer too much wine: it would never do for his guests
to get Schubert*.
*In some dialects, "Brahms".
--
Mike.
wrote:
>On 27 Feb 2012 R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>> minimus filted:
>>>
>>>On 26-Feb-12 12:24, minimus wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So, if you had to give the main course a musical name, in conjunction
>>>> with the given names to the starter and the and dessert (i.e. overture
>>>> and coda), what would you have called it? So, what is the missing link
>>>> between overture and coda?
>>>
>>>Thank you everybody for all your answers. I will consolidate the ideas
>>>and make something up!
>
>> When you're buying the ingredients, make sure to bring a piece of
>> paper headed
>> "Chopin Liszt"....r
>
>And when you're preparing your ingredients, make sure you use your
>Chopin bored.
>
to get Schubert*.
*In some dialects, "Brahms".
--
Mike.
J. J. Lodder
Feb 28, 2012, 5:17:48 AM2/28/12
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Plates have to be served as empty as possible,
with the food looking as much as possible
like an abstract painting,
Jan
Peter Moylan
Feb 28, 2012, 7:02:38 PM2/28/12
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verse, chorus, and outro.
I heard about "outro" only recently. I'm torn between thinking it's a
silly word and thinking it's an eminently sensible coinage.
--
Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org
For an e-mail address, see my web page.
Peter Brooks
Feb 28, 2012, 7:59:24 PM2/28/12
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On Feb 29, 2:02 am, Peter Moylan <inva...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid>
wrote:
coinage:
"
outro, n. colloq.
(ˈaʊtrəʊ)
[Irreg. blend of out adv. and intro n., with out adv. replacing in-.]
A concluding section, esp. one which closes a broadcast programme or
musical work.
1971 Listener 23 Dec. 882/2 At the start of the play and during the
outro into each cluster of commercials she was discovered lit in
limbo. 1980 Washington Post 17 May b2/2 This exquisitely edited
report‥tells its story without narration (except for Snyder's studio
intro and outro). 1984 Chicago Sun-Times 23 Apr. 47 It generally
takes the veejays less than an hour to tape a five-hour air shift.
They move quickly from intro to outro to promo to news. 1985 Music
Week 2 Feb. 25/3 Dave Goodman‥has added a straight orchestral intro
and outro. 1988 N.Y. Times 25 Nov. c21/4 We have a strong interest
in the intros and outros of our songs.
"
wrote:
>
>
> Musicians from a different tradition use intro, verse, chorus, bridge,
> verse, chorus, and outro.
>
> I heard about "outro" only recently. I'm torn between thinking it's a
> silly word and thinking it's an eminently sensible coinage.
>
It is only recent. 'The Listener' is a rather respectable source for a
>
> Musicians from a different tradition use intro, verse, chorus, bridge,
> verse, chorus, and outro.
>
> I heard about "outro" only recently. I'm torn between thinking it's a
> silly word and thinking it's an eminently sensible coinage.
>
coinage:
"
outro, n. colloq.
(ˈaʊtrəʊ)
[Irreg. blend of out adv. and intro n., with out adv. replacing in-.]
A concluding section, esp. one which closes a broadcast programme or
musical work.
1971 Listener 23 Dec. 882/2 At the start of the play and during the
outro into each cluster of commercials she was discovered lit in
limbo. 1980 Washington Post 17 May b2/2 This exquisitely edited
report‥tells its story without narration (except for Snyder's studio
intro and outro). 1984 Chicago Sun-Times 23 Apr. 47 It generally
takes the veejays less than an hour to tape a five-hour air shift.
They move quickly from intro to outro to promo to news. 1985 Music
Week 2 Feb. 25/3 Dave Goodman‥has added a straight orchestral intro
and outro. 1988 N.Y. Times 25 Nov. c21/4 We have a strong interest
in the intros and outros of our songs.
"
John Varela
Feb 28, 2012, 10:00:44 PM2/28/12
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:23:42 UTC, Reinhold {Rey} Aman
<am...@sonic.net> wrote:
> John Varela wrote:
> >
> > Other possibilities:
> >
> > Introduction
> > Exposition and Development
> > Recapitulation
> >
> > First Movement
> > Second Movement
> > Third Movement
> >
> > Prelude
> > Fugue
> > Finale
> >
> Not to mention:
>
> Foreplay
> Coitus
> Ejaculation
I tried to top that, possibly using Liebesträume or Bolero, but
<am...@sonic.net> wrote:
> John Varela wrote:
> >
> > Other possibilities:
> >
> > Introduction
> > Exposition and Development
> > Recapitulation
> >
> > First Movement
> > Second Movement
> > Third Movement
> >
> > Prelude
> > Fugue
> > Finale
> >
> Not to mention:
>
> Foreplay
> Coitus
> Ejaculation
failed.
--
John Varela
Reinhold {Rey} Aman
Feb 29, 2012, 1:06:52 AM2/29/12
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John Varela wrote:
Vorspiel
Geschlechtsverkehr / Beischlaf
Samenerguß*
_____________________________
*New orthography: Samenerguss
>
> Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
>> John Varela wrote:
>>>
>>> Other possibilities:
>>>
>>> Introduction
>>> Exposition and Development
>>> Recapitulation
>>>
>>> First Movement
>>> Second Movement
>>> Third Movement
>>>
>>> Prelude
>>> Fugue
>>> Finale
>>>
>> Not to mention:
>>
>> Foreplay
>> Coitus
>> Ejaculation
>
> I tried to top that, possibly using Liebesträume or Bolero,
> but failed.
>
Regarding _Liebesträume_, I'll Liszt the German terms:
> Reinhold {Rey} Aman wrote:
>> John Varela wrote:
>>>
>>> Other possibilities:
>>>
>>> Introduction
>>> Exposition and Development
>>> Recapitulation
>>>
>>> First Movement
>>> Second Movement
>>> Third Movement
>>>
>>> Prelude
>>> Fugue
>>> Finale
>>>
>> Not to mention:
>>
>> Foreplay
>> Coitus
>> Ejaculation
>
> I tried to top that, possibly using Liebesträume or Bolero,
> but failed.
>
Vorspiel
Geschlechtsverkehr / Beischlaf
Samenerguß*
_____________________________
*New orthography: Samenerguss
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