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John

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Jun 19, 2002, 6:49:51 PM6/19/02
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Why is "What did you say your name was?" better than "What did you say was
your name?"

It has been a while since I was learning these things in an English class.
I've searched my Fowler's and my Swan English Usage Guides, but can find
nothing. In addition to explaining why the former is better than the
latter, might anyone also be able to explain why I couldn't find this in my
usage guides? Am I looking in the wrong types of books? Or am I looking
wrongly in the right books?

Thank you, to anyone who will help me.

John Schless


Mark Brader

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Jun 19, 2002, 8:06:29 PM6/19/02
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John Schless writes:
> Why is "What did you say your name was?" better than "What did you say was
> your name?"

Because the first is idiomatic and the second, although correct, isn't.
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Michael J Hardy

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Jun 19, 2002, 8:56:50 PM6/19/02
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John (singth...@yahoo.com) wrote:

> Why is "What did you say your name was?" better than "What did
> you say was your name?"


In "What did you say your name was?", "your name" is the
subject of the subordinate clause. But in the second sentence,
"your name" seems like a subjective complement (or "predicate
nominative", if you like to call it that). In "My name is X",
"My name" is the subject and "X" is the complement. In "X is
my name", "X" is the subject and "my name" is the complement.

Mike Hardy

John O'Flaherty

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Jun 20, 2002, 12:15:32 PM6/20/02
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:49:51 GMT, "John" <singth...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Why is "What did you say your name was?" better than "What did you say was
>your name?"
>
>It has been a while since I was learning these things in an English class.
>I've searched my Fowler's and my Swan English Usage Guides, but can find
>nothing. In addition to explaining why the former is better than the
>latter, might anyone also be able to explain why I couldn't find this in my
>usage guides? Am I looking in the wrong types of books? Or am I looking
>wrongly in the right books?

I think "What did you say your name was?" is a changed word order
form of "You said your name was ...". The question word and the
change in word order make it a question. You can say "What is your
name?", which is a change from "Your name is ..." that makes it a
question. In your second example, the word order is changed in two
places, which isn't necessary to make a question.
In your two examples, the first sounds right, but I wouldn't hear the
second one as wrong, or even strange.

john

Joe Fineman

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Jun 20, 2002, 6:17:16 PM6/20/02
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"John" <singth...@yahoo.com> writes:

> Why is "What did you say your name was?" better than "What did you
> say was your name?"

Because what I said before you forgot it was probably "My name is
Joe", not "Joe is my name". Both are grammatical, of course, but the
second puts a kind of stress on "Joe" that in most circumstances would
be unnatural.
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