What we discussed:
Mike L's sheep breeding experiences and exploitation of the Common
Agricultural Policy (this was enough to shock Laura into briefly
contemplating voting UKIP before she was distracted by tales of Swan
Vestas igniting in pockets and other alarming tales about Lyle behinds).
The Heimlich manoeuvre: happily no-one needed this and lunch was
consumed without incident, other than a quest for chutney. It was noted
that in today's Sunday Telegraph the medical column explains how to do
the Heimlich thing to yourself but contains an entertaining typo,
suggesting that you should hit yourself with a clenched fish.
The eating of guinea pigs - questions raised but unanswered: are they
served with chips in Peru? How would you know you were eating guinea pig
rather than some other small furry animal? Are there guinea pig recipes
on the web?
Throdkins: it was confirmed that this comestible was unknown to Fylde
connections of those present. Speculation about the derivation of the
name ranged from a small geographical area called a throding (cf a
riding) to a measure of size (as in th'rod, th'pole and th'perch, a
throd being a huge pie for special occasions and a throdkin thus a small
everyday version)
Chocolate tasting: blind tasting of Thornton's Milk (not popular); Fair
Trade white with crunchy bits enjoyed by some; Fairtrade Dark and
Waitrose Fruit & Nut munched happily; Green & Black's Dark remained
untouched.
Professor Page, aue's foremost chocolate researcher, brought materials
to answer the question he had posed: is it possible to drink port
through a Cadbury's milk chocolate finger? Answer: yes, indeed (if you
first remove both ends of the finger and suck quite hard). It tastes
quite nice. It was agreed that further experimentation was warranted,
involving other types of drink, dark chocolate fingers and possibly
inserting the biscuit into a cigarette holder for greater convenience.
Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
webmaster shortly.
Final food note: Graeme wisely cautioned us never to eat anything of
which the E numbers total more than 1000.
It was agreed that there was some doubt as to whether Jitze's Qantas
note was genuine: we all believed that Jitze had seen the notice but we
thought that the spelling might be too good for an 8 year old.
And some of us complained that we are still waiting to see Linz's
wedding outfit.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
Always good advice, whether one is choking or not....
>Final food note: Graeme wisely cautioned us never to eat anything of
>which the E numbers total more than 1000.
I may have missed an important thread...what are "E numbers"?...r
Numbers given to food additives by the EU:
http://www.foodlaw.rdg.ac.uk/additive.htm#3
> Chocolate tasting: blind tasting of Thornton's Milk (not popular); Fair
> Trade white with crunchy bits enjoyed by some; Fairtrade Dark and
> Waitrose Fruit & Nut munched happily; Green & Black's Dark remained
> untouched.
I will dispose of it if necessary.
--
David
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>
>It was agreed that there was some doubt as to whether Jitze's Qantas
>note was genuine: we all believed that Jitze had seen the notice but we
>thought that the spelling might be too good for an 8 year old.
>
Indeed, that thought had crossed my mind as well. But I wasn't
looking at the spelling so much as the handwriting consistency
between the main corpus of the text and the last sentence. My
suspicion is that a young lady wrote the initial missive, but
left extra space between the end of the text and the signature.
This (maybe) allowed a helpfull adult to append the final sentiment.
More glaring in my estimation (but unlikely to have been faked
nevertheless - why would one bother?) is the difference in
sophistication of the two drawings - the stick figure and
the picture of the airliner. These bespeak different ages
to me - but then what do I know?
Jitze
>Those present: Mike L, Katy J, Paul W, Laura, Graeme, Mike P, Robin by
>phone and the hovering virtual spirits of aue chocolate lovers.
Congratulations on a masterly report!
The only thing I remember which you seem to have omitted was the
passing around, to general wonderment, of a red balloon, the writing
on which proclaimed it be be in celebration of the 125th(?)
anniversary of the inception of the Institute of Chartered
Accountants. Words are inadequate, really.
>Throdkins: it was confirmed that this comestible was unknown to Fylde
>connections of those present. Speculation about the derivation of the
>name ranged from a small geographical area called a throding (cf a
>riding) to a measure of size (as in th'rod, th'pole and th'perch, a
>throd being a huge pie for special occasions and a throdkin thus a small
>everyday version)
In the absence of a discoverable recipe we speculated on how exactly
this dish (comprising oatmeal, bacon and syrup) might be produced;
Graeme suggested that the oatmeal part might not be porridge-oid but
more along the lines of an oatmeal pancake. This certainly makes
culinary sense, but seems geographically suspect, since this type of
oatcake is a regional speciality of Staffordshire, not Lancs.
>Professor Page, aue's foremost chocolate researcher, brought materials
>to answer the question he had posed: is it possible to drink port
>through a Cadbury's milk chocolate finger? Answer: yes, indeed (if you
>first remove both ends of the finger and suck quite hard).
Most of us broke off or bit off the ends of our biscuits, leaving a
rather short piece through which to suck. Prof Page nonchalantly
produced a key-ring which sported a small pair of scissors, with which
he proceeded to pierce the ends of his biscuit, with predictably
superior results. What a pro!
--
Katy Jennison
spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @
My thoughts exactly. But if that so, it's been done well. I checked a
few letters to see if they were direct copies from elsewhere on the
page, and they weren't.
--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
I say it's a deliberate joke start to finish. People can imitate
childish writing and drawing.
The humor is a formula, guys. There are any number of jokes based on the
idea that someone (like a little old lady) says something that starts
off sweet and demure and ends with sudden profanity -- shock, surprise,
amusement.
I suppose it behooves me to provide evidence of such jokes. Snopes.com
has the one about the radio show host who supposedly said (thinking he
was off-mike) "There, that oughta hold the little bastards!" It's not
the identical situation, but it's the same genre, and it's too late at
night to look any further.
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/uncledon.htm
--
Best -- Donna Richoux
But it could not possibly have compared to the thrills of your
chocolate and port experiment, which sounds hugely inspired.
And worth replicating.
Stephanie
in Brussels but not for long
The note was discussed on alt.folklore.urban under the heading "Kidnote"
in 1999. I don't think there was anything definite there,
but we have a date. A later thread mentions the little 4 year old girl
who might get paid again next week "if the fucking bricks show up".
-- ---------------------------------------------
Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
>>Throdkins:
>In the absence of a discoverable recipe we speculated on how exactly
>this dish (comprising oatmeal, bacon and syrup) might be produced;
>Graeme suggested that the oatmeal part might not be porridge-oid but
>more along the lines of an oatmeal pancake.
I think that it was the learned and respected Mr Lyle who suggested the
pancake, although I certainly agreed with the suggestion. (One would
have thought that, with Mr Lyle's family connections, he would have been
more likely to comment on the syrup. But this all goes to show the
amazing breadth of erudition that so characterizes the AUE RR.)
>This certainly makes
>culinary sense, but seems geographically suspect, since this type of
>oatcake is a regional speciality of Staffordshire, not Lancs.
I believe that that cake is restricted to just one of the Six Towns. My
lethenomia prevents me from naming it.
But claims of geographical suspicion aren't really valid here, when we
have so much cause to doubt the existence of the delicacy in the first
place.
--
Graeme Thomas
All that tar and they can only come up with one brush?...I'm going to want to
know which "amaranth" is meant by E123...I suppose it's stated elsewhere whether
one counts the acetic acid already in vinaigrette dressing as an "additive"....
(I'm also trying to figure out what purpose is served by adding helium to
food...does it make flatulence-producing foods manifest at a higher pitch?...r
No, it makes you weigh less. The more you eat, the lighter you get.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
Forgive me. I missed out on the part where Stockport changed to Cheshire.
What's that all about? Surely not massive urban anschluss?
Out with it, lad!
>In article <ovha715j4ctg0n4qt...@4ax.com>, Wood Avens
><wood...@askjennison.com> writes
>>Graeme suggested that the oatmeal part might not be porridge-oid but
>>more along the lines of an oatmeal pancake.
>
>I think that it was the learned and respected Mr Lyle who suggested the
>pancake, although I certainly agreed with the suggestion.
A thousand apologies to Mike! And while I'm apologising, Graeme, you
were of course right abut "magistra".
>>This certainly makes
>>culinary sense, but seems geographically suspect, since this type of
>>oatcake is a regional speciality of Staffordshire, not Lancs.
>
>I believe that that cake is restricted to just one of the Six Towns. My
>lethenomia prevents me from naming it.
My experience of them dates back to the 60s, when we had a friend who
lived near Newcastle (under Lyme).
However, judicious Googling turns up a website
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2333/index.htm, which says they're
a speciality of North Staffordshire, and includes a picture, a
paragraph of (rather dubious) history, a recipe, suggested fillings
(including bacon but with no mention of added syrup), and a list of
shops in which to buy them, covering Tunstall, Longton, Fenton,
Hanley, Burslem, Stoke, Newcastle and a few others. All six, in other
words. (Note for non-UK readers: it's not that I can't count, it's
that one of those named is not one of the Six. And Arnold Bennett
subtracted another one.)
That recipe is twitching at my taste-buds now ...
>Professor Page, aue's foremost chocolate researcher, brought materials
>to answer the question he had posed: is it possible to drink port
>through a Cadbury's milk chocolate finger? Answer: yes, indeed (if you
>first remove both ends of the finger and suck quite hard). It tastes
>quite nice. It was agreed that further experimentation was warranted,
>involving other types of drink, dark chocolate fingers and possibly
>inserting the biscuit into a cigarette holder for greater convenience.
>Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
>webmaster shortly.
Had the learned professor been listening to Home Truths, by any
chance?
--
The point of education is to correct ignorance. It cannot deal with stupidity.
(Mortimer Hebblethwaite, uk.misc)
>On Sun, 01 May 2005 17:19:28 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
><la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Professor Page, aue's foremost chocolate researcher, brought materials
>>to answer the question he had posed: is it possible to drink port
>>through a Cadbury's milk chocolate finger? Answer: yes, indeed (if you
>>first remove both ends of the finger and suck quite hard). It tastes
>>quite nice. It was agreed that further experimentation was warranted,
>>involving other types of drink, dark chocolate fingers and possibly
>>inserting the biscuit into a cigarette holder for greater convenience.
>>Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
>>webmaster shortly.
>
>Had the learned professor been listening to Home Truths, by any
>chance?
Yes he had, according to what he told me on the phone. I must say
that they all sounded quite sober, considering that they had probably
been in the pub for a couple of hours when I called.
--
wrmst rgrds
Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire, England
It were Cheshire when I lived there. Ah say ...
Cheers, Sage
>
>
uk.local.north-staffs is a grand place to talk about oatcakes and their
accoutrements (but never pikelets, for some reason).
Cheers, Sage
>On Mon, 02 May 2005 10:16:01 +0100, Linz <sp...@lindsayendell.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 May 2005 17:19:28 +0100, "Laura F. Spira"
>><la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Professor Page, aue's foremost chocolate researcher, brought materials
>>>to answer the question he had posed: is it possible to drink port
>>>through a Cadbury's milk chocolate finger? Answer: yes, indeed (if you
>>>first remove both ends of the finger and suck quite hard). It tastes
>>>quite nice. It was agreed that further experimentation was warranted,
>>>involving other types of drink, dark chocolate fingers and possibly
>>>inserting the biscuit into a cigarette holder for greater convenience.
>>>Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
>>>webmaster shortly.
>>
>>Had the learned professor been listening to Home Truths, by any
>>chance?
I think I acknowledged the source in a pre-boink post.
>
>Yes he had, according to what he told me on the phone. I must say
>that they all sounded quite sober, considering that they had probably
>been in the pub for a couple of hours when I called.
While one can drink port through a chocolate finger, it is difficult
to drink much of it.
Mike Page
Lots of 'em in movies. One that was more subtle than most was in
"Foul Play" (1978). Gloria, escaping from clutches of the bad guys,
passes the window of an apartment where two old ladies are playing
Scrabble. They're too deaf to hear her cries for help, and she has
try another way.
As the viewpoint cuts inside the apartment, we see some of the game.
The word MOTHER is already on the board; one of the players adds 6 more
letters, of which we see the last 5: UCKER. And the other player says
she thinks that word is hyphenated. And in case you hadn't already
noticed, *all* the words on the board, as well as their mundane
English meanings, have risque or taboo ones as well. So, what the
dear old ladies are playing is *Dirty* Scrabble...
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "B-b-but laziness is the only virtue I have *left*!"
m...@vex.net | -- Jutta Degener
My text in this article is in the public domain.
http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html
--
Mike Barnes
Webmaster, http://alt-usage-english.org/
> People can imitate
> childish ... drawing.
This is also known as modern art.
--
Rob Bannister
Ah, pause for thought here. My father also told this one about a
colleague on the ABC (Aus, not Am) Children's Session. Needless to say,
the family believed it implicitly. Hmmm...The sat-on needle and the
self-igniting wax matches in the hip pocket are independently verified,
and I was personally familiar with the unpleasant scar from the bush
doctor's extraction of the former. But, and this is a little worrying,
and de mortuis and all that, but I begin, fellow-boinkers, to wonder if
that one about the oriental morsure might have been one of those
returned soldiers' tales told to divert youthful enquiry from subjects
the former AIF member would actually much rather not discuss in factual
terms...
Eurosceptics should be aware that the sheep subsidy micro-goldmine was
abolished some years ago. You townies just don't understand country
sports.
With those words of caution, back to the Boink: a delight as always,
and, given the high casualty rate reported by the BBC, perhaps it was
just as well that we didn't do the dawn thing. I'd love to see our
August Members tempted into joining the leap off Magdalen Bridge with
the customary joyous shout, but only when the Cherwell (ObAUE: pron.
"charwell" -- I'm sure _le tout_ AUE can do "Magdalen" by now) was
safely more than three feet deep.
--
Mike.
>I'd love to see our
>August Members tempted into joining the leap off Magdalen Bridge with
>the customary joyous shout, but only when the Cherwell (ObAUE: pron.
>"charwell" -- I'm sure _le tout_ AUE can do "Magdalen" by now) was
>safely more than three feet deep.
It took me a couple of readings to realise that this wasn't a
reference to a late-summer boink.
In alt.usage.english, Robert Bannister wrote:
>Donna Richoux wrote:
>> People can imitate childish ... drawing.
>
>This is also known as modern art.
I spotted a splendidly typical example of modern art the other day. It
had been commissioned by some quango or other and was on display in a
magnificent sixteenth-century oak-beamed market hall. It was a computer
game (not programmed by the artist) intended to dramatise the
stupefyingly trite message that War is Bad.
Genus: Conceptual.
Species: New media.
Habitat: Civic subsidised.
Field marks: Flat-screen monitor, computer mouse, mouse mat,
polysyllabic blurb on the wall obnubilating a monosyllabic Message that
is (usually deliberately) completely obscure in the 'piece' itself.
Status: Not threatened.
On the screen were a standard chess board and 32 standard chess pieces
(standard 2-D outlines). The clever bit - the bit that made it Art - was
that you could only move the pawns and, every now and then, grass
sprouted from the board. This was pawns 'joining forces to defend world
peace'.
The idea is to spread new peace-promoting, non-heirarchical
models of organisation and conflict resolution like a virus by
changing the way clever-chess-players' synapses fire, embedding
considerations of complex cooperation into the game.
Super.*
Elsewhere in the market hall was a huge and hugely expensive plasma
monitor displaying a low-res animation-loop of the silhouette of a woman
with improbably perky breasts. She jiggled across the screen from right
to left, then did it again, and again, and again. I couldn't find the
blurb so I don't know what this symbolised. I made something very
similar for my own private amusement on a Sinclair Spectrum (or perhaps
ZX) back in the early '80s and, as far as I can recall, that didn't
symbolise anything except sexual frustration.
I actually know someone who teaches Conceptual Art at a London
university and makes a very good living selling the stuff to big
corporations. Every time he talks about his or his students'
extraordinarily banal 'art', I keep waiting for him to wink and admit
that it's all a con-trick, or at the very least lay to claim to some
sort anti-capitalist subversion - charging fat-cats a fortune for what
is obviously complete bollocks is a revolutionary act, etc. (Most
Conceptual Artists claim to be socialists of one sort or another.) But
no, he appears to be entirely sincere.
I am entirely baffled. Perhaps I should stand in an art gallery and pin
this post on the wall behind me. I'll call the piece 'Entirely Baffled'.
Do you think I should hold a fish, or is that too old-hat even for
Conceptual Art? Perhaps a block of lard? Or a dentist?
* ObAUE: An eggcorn accompanies a more graphically sophisticated (and
possibly more reglementarily complicated) online version of the chess
game:
http://www.furtherfield.org/rcatlow/rethinking_wargames/docs/rules/index.
htm
Players 1 and 2 - mission is to martial pieces to checkmate each
other's kings, as with conventional chess.
--
Mickwick
Scoff all you like: I can't help noticing that no world war has
broken out since the piece went on display, so the bloke is clearly
onto something.
[...]
>
> Elsewhere in the market hall was a huge and hugely expensive plasma
> monitor displaying a low-res animation-loop of the silhouette of a
> woman with improbably perky breasts. She jiggled across the screen
> from right to left, then did it again, and again, and again. I
> couldn't find the blurb so I don't know what this symbolised. I
made
> something very similar for my own private amusement on a Sinclair
> Spectrum (or perhaps ZX) back in the early '80s and, as far as I
can
> recall, that didn't symbolise anything except sexual frustration.
You miss the point: it would have started symbolising stuff if you'd
_said_ it did.
> I actually know someone who teaches Conceptual Art at a London
> university and makes a very good living selling the stuff to big
> corporations. Every time he talks about his or his students'
> extraordinarily banal 'art', I keep waiting for him to wink and
admit
> that it's all a con-trick, or at the very least lay to claim to
some
> sort anti-capitalist subversion - charging fat-cats a fortune for
what
> is obviously complete bollocks is a revolutionary act, etc. (Most
> Conceptual Artists claim to be socialists of one sort or another.)
But
> no, he appears to be entirely sincere.
>
> I am entirely baffled. Perhaps I should stand in an art gallery and
> pin this post on the wall behind me. I'll call the piece 'Entirely
> Baffled'. Do you think I should hold a fish, or is that too old-hat
> even for Conceptual Art? Perhaps a block of lard? Or a dentist?
You should probably sit at a table alternately drinking tea and
playing strip patience. The print-out should be in looking-glass
letters, of course.
> * ObAUE: An eggcorn accompanies a more graphically sophisticated
(and
> possibly more reglementarily complicated) online version of the
chess
> game:
>
>
http://www.furtherfield.org/rcatlow/rethinking_wargames/docs/rules/index.
> htm
>
> Players 1 and 2 - mission is to martial pieces to checkmate
> each other's kings, as with conventional chess.
They missed a trick: should have said "martial peaces", then they'd
have got backing from Yoko Ono.
--
Mike.
Don't count your chickens yet. We may realize in retrospect that
the first day of WWIII was 11 Sept. 2001.
--
Liebs
> In alt.usage.english, Laura F. Spira wrote:
>> Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
>> webmaster shortly.
>
> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html
That site today is as slow as molasses. In fact, I gave up after a few
minutes. Funny, it worked fine a few days ago. It was fast, even.
I just checked my connection speed, and it is 4064/355 kbps down/up
respectively. Nothing wrong with that.
>The aue webmaster wrote:
>
>> In alt.usage.english, Laura F. Spira wrote:
>>> Photographic evidence of this experiment will be supplied to the
>>> webmaster shortly.
>>
>> http://alt-usage-english.org/boink_may05/index.html
>
>That site today is as slow as molasses. In fact, I gave up after a few
>minutes. Funny, it worked fine a few days ago. It was fast, even.
>
>I just checked my connection speed, and it is 4064/355 kbps down/up
>respectively. Nothing wrong with that.
>
I checked it just now and it comes through as fast as you could wish
for... Partially this may be because I viewed the page when it was
first announced and then my browser cached the jpg's (use of
apostrophic plural is hereby sicced) thus obviating the need to
suck them all down again. But that's the price you pay when you
use a state-of-the-art browser like IE. (insert smiley here)
Jitze
Ah, guess what? Now it is fine for me too. Took about three seconds (and
no, it wasn't cached, as I gave up on it earlier without getting a single
picture loaded).
All is well ...
That was suggested in the recent thread on when, exactly, wars began.
It might have been a TIC comment, but...