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Young Sociolinguist

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Feb 27, 2006, 11:22:17 AM2/27/06
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Try as I might, I can't find the given names of J.B. Pride. I've tried
googling, but there are thousands of people called Pride, and the
linguist is referred to as J.B. He/She is the author of the following
work: Pride, J.B. 1971. "The Social Meaning of Language". Oxford:
Oxford University Press. Thanks in advance. P.S. It's snowing in my
town.

Father Ignatius

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Feb 27, 2006, 11:50:55 AM2/27/06
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"Young Sociolinguist" <spoo...@interia.pl> wrote in message
news:1141057337.6...@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

The J is for John.

As for the B, paps you could ask his collaborator:
http://www.vuw.ac.nz/lals/staff/janet-holmes/holmes.aspx

Josh Norther

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Feb 27, 2006, 11:53:17 AM2/27/06
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J.B. Pride is a man, because the "J." definitely stands
John. He often co-authors or co-edits with Professor
Janet Holmes.

Eg:

See: http://khnt.hit.uib.no/icame/manuals/wsc/REF.HTM

I haven't discovered what the "B." stands for, but it's
a fair bet that it's something like "Benjamin" or
"Bartholomew".

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Young Sociolinguist

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Feb 28, 2006, 10:25:41 AM2/28/06
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Thank you both. The first name will be quite enough. A list of sources
is incomplete if it lacks the first names of the authors. I've also
seen books in English in whose bibliographies Polish names and titles
were mis-spelt beyond recognition :)

Mike Lyle

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Feb 28, 2006, 3:15:19 PM2/28/06
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When quoting a publication, I'd always use the form of the name used in
that publication: the author may have good reasons for using a
particular form in a particular case, and in my view it would be wrong
to change it. Note that you, quite rightly, dislike seeing Polish
references misquoted.

There may sometimes be a case for "J[ohn] B. Pride", but I'd use even
that with caution. The author's wishes should normally be paramount.

--
Mike.


Don Aitken

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Feb 28, 2006, 7:40:22 PM2/28/06
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That recalls a problem I had using the Big Catalogue at Cambridge
University Library. This was in pre-computer days, when it consisted
of several hundred large volumes, occupying a room of their own, in
which the details for each book were specified on a slip stuck in with
glue. I was after a work by A.J.P. Taylor, the historian, whose name I
had never seen in any other form (I still haven't, except in
biographies). It turned out that everything appeared only under the
author's *full* name. I managed to remember that his first name was
Alan (or was it Allan, or even Allen?). There were page after page
after page of books by Alan [something] Taylor. The experience was
sufficiently harrowing that I've never forgotten that he was Alan John
Percivale Taylor.

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Young Sociolinguist

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Mar 1, 2006, 8:01:45 AM3/1/06
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I'd better ask my supervisor then. MLA and APA styles are a subject
that deserves a separate discussion group.

Father Ignatius

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Mar 1, 2006, 8:38:58 AM3/1/06
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Young Sociolinguist wrote:
> I'd better ask my supervisor then. MLA and APA styles are a subject
> that deserves a separate discussion group.

Are you f'miliar with _The Little, Brown Handbook_? It covers both these
style, and more -- such as Chicago -- besides. It might be a least-effort
pathway vhither you vish to go.

Vhich style are you usink? It now seems that the kvastion you asked vas not
all szat cleauzely goppled vith the onkser you are rilly vishink, yaïs?

Young Sociolinguist

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Mar 1, 2006, 4:16:01 PM3/1/06
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Thank you. I'm using modified MLA. Last year I had a course in Academic
English and used a blue book written by my professor, who is British.
We have an official guide to MLA in our library, but it doesn't answer
all questions.
Ich see that ye art a fan ov Myddel Englysche.

Mike Page

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Mar 1, 2006, 6:11:25 PM3/1/06
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On 28 Feb 2006 07:25:41 -0800, "Young Sociolinguist"
<spoo...@interia.pl> wrote:

It depends entirely on which of numerous referencing conventions
that you are using. The widely used Harvard APA convention does
not us first names.


Mike Page

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