H G Wells: Time Machine: Hettie Potter?
x...@xahlee.org
The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
Hettie Potter.
What does Hettie Potter refer to?
full text here:
http://xahlee.org/p/time_machine/tm-ch02.html
thanks.
Lars Eighner
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alt.usage.english:
> H G Well's Time Machine chapter 2 has this sentence:
> The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
> Hettie Potter.
> What does Hettie Potter refer to?
It should be "Who was Hettie Potter?" Today this would almost
certainly be a woman's name, but I guess it might also have been a
male's name in 1895. In any event, it is not an especially
unlikely name and it has been borne by a number of people who
could not have been or are very unlikely to have the subject of
Wells' reference. My guess is that it might have been a British
comic actor or actress, for some twelve years later a Hettie
Potter appears in a comic silent film "Our New Policeman."
The context suggests that Wells expected his readers would know
who this was. The word "anecdote" suggest that the stories
might be amusing. Perhaps some superannuated Brit will be by to
tell us who this Hettie Potter was, but I doubt the name means
much to contemporary readers anywhere in the English-speaking
world, at least not as a reference in a story published in 1895.
This, you see, is why I urge writers to be careful about
including contemporary references in their fiction. The Time
Machine, it turns out, is timeless, but the fame of Hettie
Potter was not.
> full text here:
> http://xahlee.org/p/time_machine/tm-ch02.html
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the Omrud
> H G Well's Time Machine chapter 2 has this sentence:
>
> The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
> Hettie Potter.
>
> What does Hettie Potter refer to?
>
> full text here:
> http://xahlee.org/p/time_machine/tm-ch02.html
Given the date of the book, it's probably a reference to a film
actress of the early 1900s, given in IMDB as Hetty Potter:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0693285/
--
David
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Donna Richoux
> In our last episode,
> <1120205703.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, the
> lovely and talented x...@xahlee.org broadcast on
> alt.usage.english:
>
> > H G Well's Time Machine chapter 2 has this sentence:
>
> > The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
> > Hettie Potter.
>
> > What does Hettie Potter refer to?
>
> It should be "Who was Hettie Potter?" Today this would almost
> certainly be a woman's name, but I guess it might also have been a
> male's name in 1895. In any event, it is not an especially
> unlikely name and it has been borne by a number of people who
> could not have been or are very unlikely to have the subject of
> Wells' reference. My guess is that it might have been a British
> comic actor or actress, for some twelve years later a Hettie
> Potter appears in a comic silent film "Our New Policeman."
When I saw this, I thought, "Oh, this film certainly would have caught
H.G. Wells's attention":
http://www.dinodatabase.com/dinoapnd05.asp
Movies with Dinosaurs
1905 Prehistoric Peeps (Sebastian Smith, Hetty
Potter) A scientist dreams of prehistoric adventures.
But then I looked up the date of "The Time Machine" -- it was written in
1895, ten years' before that film. Maybe the influence went the other
way.
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John Dean
You haven't considered the possibility that Herbert went forward in time
to see the film and then back again to write the book?
--
John Dean
Oxford
Bill Patterson
Machine (published, IIRC, as "The Chronic Argonaut" in The Strand
magazine)., but I believe it went through several revisions, some of
them quite extensive, before reaching the form in which it was finally
published in the Atlantic Edition. The reference to Hetty/ie Potter
could have been added some time later.
There is a fair amount of Wells scholarship on The Time Machine; we
could always put the question to someone in The Wells Society.
John Dean
> In our last episode,
> <1120205703.4...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, the
> lovely and talented x...@xahlee.org broadcast on
> alt.usage.english:
>
>> H G Well's Time Machine chapter 2 has this sentence:
>
>> The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
>> Hettie Potter.
>
>> What does Hettie Potter refer to?
>
>
> who this was. The word "anecdote" suggest that the stories
> might be amusing. Perhaps some superannuated Brit will be by to
> tell us who this Hettie Potter was,
I'm afraid we don't get superannuated, we stay Brits until we die.
>
> This, you see, is why I urge writers to be careful about
> including contemporary references in their fiction. The Time
> Machine, it turns out, is timeless, but the fame of Hettie
> Potter was not.
>
>> full text here:
>> http://xahlee.org/p/time_machine/tm-ch02.html
Did you know that a Google on [ wells "hettie potter" time ] brings up
Xah's site as the first hit? As does a simple Google for [ "hettie
potter" ] Fast work, young Xah.
--
John Dean
Oxford
the Omrud
Please Sir, I knew that, Sir.
Isn't it most likely that Hettie/Hetty/Henrietta was a well-known
stage actress who made a couple of films later in her career,
possibly given a bunk up by being mentioned in Herbert George's opus.
Areff
Bill Patterson wrote:
> 1895 is the first publication date of the earliest version of The Time
> Machine (published, IIRC, as "The Chronic Argonaut" in The Strand
> magazine)., but I believe it went through several revisions, some of
> them quite extensive, before reaching the form in which it was finally
> published in the Atlantic Edition. The reference to Hetty/ie Potter
> could have been added some time later.
Not to be confused with "Heddy Potter", which is how Ron refers to that
Scotch woman's young protagonist, wot?
Mike Dworetsky
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A couple of other films c. 1905-10 are listed as starring "Hetty Potter".
It seems possible that she might have been a stage actress for some years
before getting involved in early films, hence her name might well have been
in the earlier versions of The Time Machine.
But why anecdotes about her would be especially entertaining would require
deeper research.
--
Mike Dworetsky
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R H Draney
>
>Donna Richoux wrote:
>>
>> When I saw this, I thought, "Oh, this film certainly would have caught
>> H.G. Wells's attention":
>>
>> http://www.dinodatabase.com/dinoapnd05.asp
>>
>> Movies with Dinosaurs
>> 1905 Prehistoric Peeps (Sebastian Smith, Hetty
>> Potter) A scientist dreams of prehistoric adventures.
>>
>> But then I looked up the date of "The Time Machine" -- it was written
>> in 1895, ten years' before that film. Maybe the influence went the
>> other way.
>
>You haven't considered the possibility that Herbert went forward in time
>to see the film and then back again to write the book?
I think Donna's original thought was correct, although perhaps not exactly as
she meant it...no doubt a flick involving time-travel and made as early as 1905
*would* have been noticed by Mr Wells....r
rja.ca...@excite.com
Yes. Got a "Hetty Potter" at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brett/photos/wnstatham.html ,
but there isn't an obvious connection - one could, again, ask.
Couldn't Wells's "Hettie Potter" be fictional? Admittedly there is a
shortage of names for other apparently fictional characters in the
book...
Brion K. Lienhart
Paris Hilton of the Gay Ninties? :)
Lars Eighner
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> Mike Dworetsky wrote:
>> But why anecdotes about her would be especially entertaining would require
>> deeper research.
>>
> Paris Hilton of the Gay Ninties? :)
No, no. He asked what would be *especially* *entertaining* about
hearing anecdotes about her.
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Mike Dworetsky
> In our last episode, <Le6dnWfW7ry...@comcast.com>, the
> lovely and talented Brion K. Lienhart broadcast on
> alt.usage.english:
>
> > Mike Dworetsky wrote:
>
> >> But why anecdotes about her would be especially entertaining would
require
> >> deeper research.
> >>
>
> > Paris Hilton of the Gay Ninties? :)
>
> No, no. He asked what would be *especially* *entertaining* about
> hearing anecdotes about her.
>
A more serious attempt to answer the question might involve a trawl through
the newspapers and magazines of the 1890s for references to Hettie Potter
and her antics or activities. Then again, in those days the more amusing
anecdotes were unlikely to be anything the average newspaper could publish.
The Times (London) has an electronic version going back to 1800 or earlier.
I wonder if my university library has a subscription to that? Hmm, another
way to waste time.
Don Aitken
My local library has it. Nothing for "Hettie Potter" or "Hetty
Potter".
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Emma Pease
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>> In our last episode, <Le6dnWfW7ry...@comcast.com>, the
>> lovely and talented Brion K. Lienhart broadcast on
>> alt.usage.english:
>>
>> > Mike Dworetsky wrote:
>>
>> >> But why anecdotes about her would be especially entertaining would
> require
>> >> deeper research.
>> >>
>>
>> > Paris Hilton of the Gay Ninties? :)
>>
>> No, no. He asked what would be *especially* *entertaining* about
>> hearing anecdotes about her.
>>
>
> A more serious attempt to answer the question might involve a trawl through
> the newspapers and magazines of the 1890s for references to Hettie Potter
> and her antics or activities. Then again, in those days the more amusing
> anecdotes were unlikely to be anything the average newspaper could publish.
Unless they came out in divorce trial hearings. A newspaper could
print court testimony without fear of libel suits and so the juicier
court testimony would be prominently placed. Add in that to get a
divorce in those days in England required a trial where one spouse had
to prove the other had committed adultery.
> The Times (London) has an electronic version going back to 1800 or earlier.
> I wonder if my university library has a subscription to that? Hmm, another
> way to waste time.
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Was the Times that sort of paper at the time?
What have they got on Oscar Wilde, or Ellen Terry?
John Dean
Well, the court had to be satisfied that adultery had taken place. The
charades involved were notorious and fooled no-one, least of all the
Judge. If someone had decided to take the sledgehammer of perjury to
crack the nut of professional co-respondents the divorce rate would have
dropped alarmingly. A situation which continued into the 1950s, if not
the 1960s.
And printing lurid court details was the staple of the News of the World
in the early to mid 20th Century. Then came the era of the investigative
reporter. "I made my excuses and left".
--
John Dean
Oxford
Peter Moylan
>This, you see, is why I urge writers to be careful about
>including contemporary references in their fiction. The Time
>Machine, it turns out, is timeless, but the fame of Hettie
>Potter was not.
I recently finished re-reading a short story by Isaac Asimov, written
in the 1940s but set a few hundred years from now, where part of the
background was that everyone on Earth was on short rations because
of overpopulation. The crisis was reaching breaking point because
the population had just hit 6 billion.
This made me realise, oliver sudden, why those Malthusian predictions
were wrong. The people who predicted a crisis seem to have assumed
uniform food distribution across different countries. They completely
missed the modern solution, where most of the starvation is concentrated
in countries nobody cares about.
--
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http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au (OS/2 and eCS information and software)
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Hmm, not quite, since that implies that if food were evenly distributed,
we'd all be on short rations. I think there is more than enough food
for everyone to eat well.
Asimov did perdict food terrorism in his first Lucky Starr book though,
in a scenario that played out very similarly to the Chilean grape poisioning
thing here in the States 20 or so years ago..
Ted
Ted
Paul F. Dietz
> This made me realise, oliver sudden, why those Malthusian predictions
> were wrong. The people who predicted a crisis seem to have assumed
> uniform food distribution across different countries. They completely
> missed the modern solution, where most of the starvation is concentrated
> in countries nobody cares about.
Actually, if western agricultural yields were obtained on all the arable
land in the world, we could feed 100 billion people. Africa alone could
feed 15 billion.
Countries with starvation do not have overpopulation problems, they
have lethal governments and underdevelopment.
Paul
Michael S. Schiffer
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>...
> I recently finished re-reading a short story by Isaac Asimov,
> written in the 1940s but set a few hundred years from now, where
> part of the background was that everyone on Earth was on short
> rations because of overpopulation. The crisis was reaching
> breaking point because the population had just hit 6 billion.
>
> This made me realise, oliver sudden, why those Malthusian
> predictions were wrong. The people who predicted a crisis seem
> to have assumed uniform food distribution across different
> countries. They completely missed the modern solution, where
> most of the starvation is concentrated in countries nobody cares
> about.
"The absolute number of malnourished people is declining by about
5m a year. As a proportion of the world's population, the
improvement is even more marked." --_The Economist_, 6/13/02
Which isn't to say hunger is a solved problem. But the world is
better-nourished than it was in the 40s, despite the rise in
population. (Thanks substantially to Norman Borlaug[1], arguably
the most important living person in terms of lives affected-- and
certainly the living person with the greatest ratio of impact to
fame.)
Mike
[1] <http://www.agbioworld.org/biotech-
info/topics/borlaug/benefactor.html>
or
<http://shorterlink.com/?GP6D79>
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Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS
msch...@condor.depaul.edu
Emma Pease
Well some weren't charades but yes charades were common though I think
they generally avoided perjury. Usual scenario was take evidence from
the hotel employees or someone similar.
"What did you see"
"Mr. C and a woman not Mrs. C checked in together"
"Mr. C and a woman not Mrs. C requested breakfast in their room. They
were both there when the food was delivered."
Neither Mr. C or the woman not Mrs. C would be asked directly whether
adultery took place because to answer yes would be self-incrimination.
All the evidence would be circumstantial.
Note in a charade divorce it was always the man who took the fall.
rja.ca...@excite.com
> To get a
> divorce in those days in England required a trial where one spouse had
> to prove the other had committed adultery.
If Woody Allen's 1960s stand-up comedy act is trustworthy (of course
for his private life you hope it isn't), this was (sometimes?) the case
in New York state then. At http://www.ibras.dk/comedy/allen.htm it
appears that someone has industriously copied out one version of an
album recording, although I think I have a different one. Maybe edited
for taste... I think recall him describing trying to negotiate with a
call girl in order to commit adultery, but she was too expensive, and
she didn't give student discount. I don't think that mine goes, "Well,
finally, what happened was, my wife comitted adultery for me. She's
always been more mechanically inclined than I have." But I may be
mistaken.
Come to think, I do not actually believe there specifically was a law
in New York state against driving with a conscious moose on your
fender, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.
The page also includes a quick story of his that I had vaguely had it
in mind to look for:
"Years ago, my mother gave me a bullet...a bullet, and I put it in my
breast pocket. Two years after that, I was walking down the street,
when a berserk evangelist heaved a Gideon bible out a hotel room
window, hitting me in the chest. Bible would have gone through my heart
if it wasn't for the bullet."
Lars Eighner
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the lovely and talented rja.ca...@excite.com
broadcast on alt.usage.english:
> Emma Pease wrote:
>> To get a
>> divorce in those days in England required a trial where one spouse had
>> to prove the other had committed adultery.
> If Woody Allen's 1960s stand-up comedy act is trustworthy (of course
> for his private life you hope it isn't), this was (sometimes?) the case
> in New York state then.
New York was notable for tough divorce laws in the '50s. People
who could afford it went to Vegas.
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Mike Schilling
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> Emma Pease wrote:
>> To get a
>> divorce in those days in England required a trial where one spouse had
>> to prove the other had committed adultery.
>
> If Woody Allen's 1960s stand-up comedy act is trustworthy (of course
> for his private life you hope it isn't), this was (sometimes?) the case
> in New York state then. At http://www.ibras.dk/comedy/allen.htm it
> appears that someone has industriously copied out one version of an
> album recording, although I think I have a different one.
She was listening to *Conelrad* on the radio, that is, is the predecessor to
the Emergency Broadcast System.
Warchild
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He alway felt that he had married an immature woman. See if this is not
immature to you - she would come into the bathroom while he was taking a
bath, and sink his boats.
Xah Lee
> Did you know that a Google on [ wells "hettie potter" time ] brings up
> Xah's site as the first hit? As does a simple Google for [ "hettie
> potter" ] Fast work, young Xah.
google the other day just kicked me off their banner ad program,
stating racial material or the like on my site...
... i find that it is not difficult to get on the first page of results
of google search (or any other search engine). One just write something
that doesn't exist elsewhere, and there are quite a lot of somethings
that haven't been written or thought about, as far as i realized...
For instance, i bet if one seriously annotate or write a commentary on
another H G Well's work or any other classic literature for that
matter, it would be a first on the net.
the size of today's internet are perhaps larger than most libraries in
industrialized countries... but compared to all printed human writings
it's probably a few magnitude smaller. Then, all human's collective
writings are again dwarfed by possible worthy topics yet to be
explored.
...knowledge of science has been growing exponentially for a hundred or
two hundred years, with a double life every 1.5 years or so... and 18th
century mathematicians have thought at one point the topic (math) has
been exhausted. I think that we know today that the practical unknowns
and unexplored topics are almost infinite in just about any area.
... a easy way to get hit by google frequently is to simply write about
pornography. This is the all-time favorite subject of men ā the drive
of humanity. For the vast majority of people, they are not computer
savvy thus don't have search engine preference set, therefore search
engines automatically filter out the rampant outright porn sites and
what's left on top is your essay about pornography with those dirty
words men seek.
Liz
8<
> > ...knowledge of science has been growing exponentially for a hundred or
> > two hundred years, with a double life every 1.5 years or so...
> > I think that we know today that the practical unknowns
> > and unexplored topics are almost infinite in just about any area.
In recent decades, scientists have discovered that the
ordinary matter that makes up stars, planets, even human beings,
accounts for only 5 percent of everything in the universe.
The rest belongs to dark matter and dark energy, phenomena that
scientists are just now learning about.
Top 25 unanswered science questions.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/0630_050630_top25science.html
j...@sfbooks.com
Folks, I tried. I tried so hard I had to type the damn post twice.
Google seems to have improved a few things, e.g. it now knows
Followup-To: headers exist, but is still a really annoying interface.
Too bad I'm back to having no home phone, and can't do this properly
with ease.)
Well, in the nick of time (I hope) to put this post in the proper
thread without mighty machinations of Pnews, I may have an answer to
the subject-line question. Yay. Or I may not, and could use your
help. See below, after some quote-and-response.
Xah Lee wrote:
> John Dean wrote:
> > Did you know that a Google on [ wells "hettie potter" time ] brings up
> > Xah's site as the first hit? As does a simple Google for [ "hettie
> > potter" ] Fast work, young Xah.
Currently, this thread is the leading answer in such searches, followed
by Xah Lee's site, with billions of sites quoting <The Time Machine> in
full as also-rans.
This thread appears in that *Web* search list discourtesy of a software
company which is representing alt.usage.english as a support newsgroup
for its software, though to be fair they do identify it as a "Usenet
newsgroup" distinct from their internal offerings.
> google the other day just kicked me off their banner ad program,
> stating racial material or the like on my site...
?
> ... i find that it is not difficult to get on the first page of results
> of google search (or any other search engine). One just write something
> that doesn't exist elsewhere, and there are quite a lot of somethings
> that haven't been written or thought about, as far as i realized...
>
> For instance, i bet if one seriously annotate or write a commentary on
> another H G Well's work or any other classic literature for that
> matter, it would be a first on the net.
Yes, it would be a first on the net, as witness the searches referred
to above.
However, it's not a first in print, as witness the rest of this post.
I'm citing solely
<The Time Machine: An Invention. A Critical Text of the 1895 London
First Edition, with an Introduction and Appendices>. H. G. Wells,
edited by Leon Stover. Volume 1 of <The Annotated H. G. Wells>.
Jefferson, North Carolina, and London: McFarland & Company, Inc.,
Publishers, c 1996.
(And yes, further volumes of <The Annotated H. G. Wells> did appear,
and the library I'm posting from has several on the shelf.)
Stover states that there were several magazine appearances of versions
of the story prior to the book version he reprints. These are:
1) "The Chronic Argonauts". Appeared in <Science Schools Magazine>
(not <The Strand> as reported earlier in this thread). Stover reprints
it in full. It doesn't much resemble the work as we know it, and
certainly doesn't mention Hettie Potter.
2) A story titled either "The Time Machine" or "Time Machine". (Sorry;
I made copies from the book, then put it in the reshelving bin
expecting to do more research elsewhere, then found I wouldn't be doing
more research elsewhere, started writing this post, and found the book
gone from the reshelving bin... Well, that's the simplified version,
anyhow.) Stover reprints this story in full too. I didn't look
closely at it, but Stover claims it's basically the time traveller's
story from the book we know, and it doesn't mention Hettie Potter.
Perhaps this is the source of the reference to <The Strand> upthread?
3) A serialisation immediately prior to the book publication, also in
1895, in <The National Review>, which presumably is not the US
publication known for its conservative views today. Stover includes an
appendix printing this version's alternative treatment of chapter 1
(but Hettie Potter is in book chapter 2, at least as of 1895), and
summarising other noteworthy changes, which summary doesn't mention
Hettie Potter.
In sum, I consider it possible, but unlikely, that Hettie Potter first
appeared in the London edition of 1895; otherwise she first appeared in
the <National Review> serialisation.
Here is what Stover has to say about her:
|| The Journalist tried to relieve the tension by telling anecdotes of
|| Hettie Porter.54
The footnote does make clear that Stover meant "Potter" there; this is
our first hint that Stover is not entirely reliable. Anyway, to
proceed:
| 54. Hettie Potter is a composite reference that at once alludes to
| Beatrice (Potter) Webb who, with Sidney Webb dominated the Fabian
| Society, and to a family of music-hall comedians named Potter (see
| McConnell 1977:27, n9). The merciless Potter "anecdotes"
"merciless" ? Where was *that* in the text?
| retailed by the Journalist suggest that the public laughed at the
| economic tracts written by Mrs. Webb. In this Wells is quite
| mistaken, and he uses the Journalist to make the same mockery of her
| working-class humanitarianism as he later did in the person of
| Alitora Bailey in <The New Machiavelli> (1911).
|
| The fact is that Beatrice Webb's research reports, aimed at
| reforming the uncaring Poor Laws, were seriously received. Like
| Alitora Bailey before she married Oscar Bailey (Sidney Webb),
| Beatrice Potter made her debut on the London scene as a wealthy
| socialite; born rich, she could talk about the urban poor with
| empathy and get away with it, as less respectable do-gooders could
| not. Wells clearly resented this, it seems, because her popularity
| went against his unsentimental views of his own lower-class origins.
|
| His hated Morlocks, after all, are those antisocial elements of the
| working poor organized for mischief by trade unionists of Marxist
| persuasion. Adding to Wells's dismay at the doings of the Fabian
| Society, is the fact that it started out with a statist program a
| la Bellamy, only to lend support to the Labour Party formed after
| the Coal War of 1893; the resulting tension between authoritarian
| and democratic socialism within Fabianism (see Lipow 1982:138)
| caused Wells to leave the Society shortly after joining it in 1902.
(Huh. A biography of E. Nesbit tells a much less respectable story,
involving an attempt to take over the Society by packing its
membership, followed by an attempt to elope with Nesbit's 16-year-old
daughter.)
| The Journalist who, in <The Time Machine>, reports a public making
| fun of "Hettie Potter" is therefore wishful thinking on Wells's
| part. He would rather this was the case, in support of his own
| unflinching statism.
Now, the germane reference here is
| McConnell, Frank D., ed.
| 1977 <H.G. Wells: "The Time Machine" and "The War of the
| Worlds."> New York: Oxford University Press.
It appears that library catalogues regard the title of this book as
<The Time Machine; The War of the Worlds>
but that doesn't mean that any libraries I can easily get to admit to
owning a copy. Since it will soon become very difficult to put this
post in this thread, and I have a lot else to do, I thought it best to
stop here.
But we now know that Stover has *not* seriously considered the
possibility that Wells is here referring to the actual Hetty/Hettie
Potter who appeared in several silent films a decade later. Has
McConnell taken her into account? I don't know.
At the first library I tried, no print resource at all gave information
about the screen actress Hetty Potter. I have not tried at the library
whence I post this. If someone reading this has access to McConnell's
version, and can let us know what it has to say on this subject, and it
turns out that McConnell is *also* unaware of our screen actress, then
it will be time for me to do further research (and it'll probably be
enough days from now that I can *take* time to do further research) on
her.
Meanwhile, though, that's Stover's theory, for what it's worth.
Joe Bernstein
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Xah Lee
thanks a lot.
I've put a link to a mirror of your text.
http://xahlee.org/p/time_machine/tm-ch02.html
Thanks for your research.
Xah
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Peter Moylan
> Good point O_o
Could you quote a little of what you're responding to? I don't seem to
have received the original message in this thread.
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R H Draney
>
>Good point O_o
And what's more, purple kittycat underwear pastrami indignant....r
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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Robin Bignall
>alvinc...@gmail.com filted:
>>
>>Good point O_o
>
>And what's more, purple kittycat underwear pastrami indignant....r
that Wells' time traveller saw when he went forward in time as far as he
dared.
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