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MC

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Dec 10, 2011, 9:24:42 PM12/10/11
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Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.

Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"

It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?

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Steve Hayes

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Dec 10, 2011, 9:56:31 PM12/10/11
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:24:42 -0500, MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:

>Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>
>Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>
>It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?

I thought PNC was "Police National computer".


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tony cooper

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Dec 11, 2011, 12:40:56 AM12/11/11
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 21:24:42 -0500, MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net>
wrote:

>Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>
>Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>
>It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?

Could you have transposed that? A PCN is a Penalty Charge Notice in
the UK and what you get for a parking offense.

If the officer keyed the vehicle as a - shall we say "informal" - way
of indicating that the vehicle was illegally parked, then it might be
called a PCN.
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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Dr Nick

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Dec 11, 2011, 4:17:42 AM12/11/11
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r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:

> MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> writes:
>>Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>>"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>>Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>>It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
>
> Could it be related to the
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer
>
> ?

I'd have thought PNCing was looking the car up in the PNC. It would be
wrong for a policeman to do this for personal reasons, so if that had
happened it might be this.

Can you provide a bit more context (what drama, why did he do it, what
the outcome was, was the reference to the incident involving him or
others etc)?
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MC

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Dec 11, 2011, 4:46:58 AM12/11/11
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In article <cbg8e7p47r7q81gh4...@4ax.com>,
Good guess, but no... Definitely PNC.

MC

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Dec 11, 2011, 4:48:34 AM12/11/11
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In article <87r50bq...@temporary-address.org.uk>,
Dr Nick <3-no...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:

> r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>
> > MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> writes:
> >>Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
> >>"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
> >>Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
> >>It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
> >
> > Could it be related to the
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer
> >
> > ?
>
> I'd have thought PNCing was looking the car up in the PNC. It would be
> wrong for a policeman to do this for personal reasons, so if that had
> happened it might be this.

That would fit the secrecy about her actions.
>
> Can you provide a bit more context (what drama, why did he do it, what
> the outcome was, was the reference to the incident involving him or
> others etc)?

It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
car, so she had no need to look it up.

MC

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Dec 11, 2011, 5:01:12 AM12/11/11
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In article <copespaz-4718F5...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Although... I may have missed something along these lines. I wasn't
paying *very* close attention to what I was watching ("Scott & Bailey").
At times, none at all. It was just on.

And... We have a winner!

I just spent a little time searching on line and came up with:

"Rachel and Janet had both better behave themselves after Gill has put
her career on the line by covering up Rachel using the PNC to find out
about Nick."

It wasn't connected to the car-keying incident.

James Hogg

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Dec 11, 2011, 5:21:30 AM12/11/11
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Dr Nick wrote:
> r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>
>> MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> writes:
>>> Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>>> "keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>>> Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>>> It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
>> Could it be related to the
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer
>>
>> ?
>
> I'd have thought PNCing was looking the car up in the PNC. It would be
> wrong for a policeman to do this for personal reasons, so if that had
> happened it might be this.
>
> Can you provide a bit more context (what drama, why did he do it, what
> the outcome was, was the reference to the incident involving him or
> others etc)?

I saw that being done the other day in "Ashes to Ashes" (Series 1,
episode 5) but I don't remember what Gene Hunt said as he did it.

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James

Peter Duncanson (BrE)

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Dec 11, 2011, 7:28:31 AM12/11/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:17:42 +0000, Dr Nick
<3-no...@temporary-address.org.uk> wrote:

>r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>
>> MC <cope...@mapca.inter.net> writes:
>>>Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>>>"keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>>>Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>>>It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
>>
>> Could it be related to the
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer
>>
>> ?
>
>I'd have thought PNCing was looking the car up in the PNC. It would be
>wrong for a policeman to do this for personal reasons, so if that had
>happened it might be this.
>
This has happened in real life in England with tragic consequences a
couple of days ago:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8946652/Melton-Mowbray-Police-inspector-killed-wife-and-daughter-after-being-sacked.html

Melton Mowbray: Police inspector killed wife and daughter after
being sacked
....
Once considered a rising star of his force who had been commended
for his bravery, he had seen his life unravel in recent weeks and
went on the rampage at his family home, also stabbing his other two
children before killing himself.

On Friday, sources said that things came to his head after he
-> discovered his wife had been having an affair and Day, 37, accessed
-> the police national computer seeking details of her boyfriend.

He was suspended in September after his superiors were made aware of
what he was doing, and was dismissed for it last week.

On Thursday afternoon, at around 4pm, he ran amok with a knife,
killing Samantha, 38, and six-year-old Genevieve, and seriously
injuring the couple's 15-year-old daughter and 13-year-old son.
....
>Can you provide a bit more context (what drama, why did he do it, what
>the outcome was, was the reference to the incident involving him or
>others etc)?

--
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(in alt.usage.english)

Robin Bignall

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Dec 11, 2011, 8:21:57 AM12/11/11
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I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first. Just
think what it would do to "Protect and Serve" as a motto, even with the
car of a love rat.
Should love rats have a notice on their cars saying 'key here'?
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(BrE)
Herts, England

John Dunlop

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Dec 11, 2011, 8:31:26 AM12/11/11
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Peter Duncanson (BrE):

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8946652/Melton-Mowbray-Police-inspector-killed-wife-and-daughter-after-being-sacked.html
...
> On Friday, sources said that things came to his head after he
> -> discovered his wife had been having an affair and Day, 37, accessed
> -> the police national computer seeking details of her boyfriend.

"Things came to a head", probably.

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Christian Weisgerber

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Dec 11, 2011, 11:54:11 AM12/11/11
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Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> >> It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
> >> car, so she had no need to look it up.
>
> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.

That's Detective Constable Bailey, so no uniform.
Played by Suranne Jones... Which reminds me, how do you pronounce
"Suranne"?

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Robin Bignall

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Dec 11, 2011, 1:47:01 PM12/11/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:54:11 +0000 (UTC), na...@mips.inka.de (Christian
Weisgerber) wrote:

>Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> >> It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
>> >> car, so she had no need to look it up.
>>
>> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.
>
>That's Detective Constable Bailey, so no uniform.
>Played by Suranne Jones... Which reminds me, how do you pronounce
>"Suranne"?

Ha! You can tell how much TV I watch.

Mike Lyle

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Dec 11, 2011, 5:24:35 PM12/11/11
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Is she related to Lord Suralan?

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Duggy

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Dec 11, 2011, 5:41:10 PM12/11/11
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On Dec 11, 11:21 pm, Robin Bignall <docro...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.  Just
> think what it would do to "Protect and Serve" as a motto, even with the
> car of a love rat.

Keying someone's car in your underwear seems odd.

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Peter Duncanson (BrE)

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Dec 11, 2011, 5:55:17 PM12/11/11
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:54:11 +0000 (UTC), na...@mips.inka.de (Christian
Weisgerber) wrote:

>Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> >> It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
>> >> car, so she had no need to look it up.
>>
>> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.
>
>That's Detective Constable Bailey, so no uniform.
>Played by Suranne Jones... Which reminds me, how do you pronounce
>"Suranne"?

I think it is like "sooran".
This is a clip from an interview on a radio station in Northern Ireland.
The interviewer speaks her name as I indicate above:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkh2_57bQLk&feature=youtu.be&t=31s

This doesn't mention pronunciation but is mildly interesting:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/a-piece-of-my-mind-suranne-jones-actress-1.836889

....
I THINK MY name means "princess". My great gran was called Suranne
and when my dad told the priest he wanted to call me Suranne, too,
he said: "Now, that's not a proper name." So I was christened
Sarah-Anne. When I got the chance to pick a stage name, my dad asked
if I would consider Suranne.
....

R H Draney

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Dec 11, 2011, 9:41:56 PM12/11/11
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Duggy filted:
>
>On Dec 11, 11:21=A0pm, Robin Bignall <docro...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first. =A0Just
>> think what it would do to "Protect and Serve" as a motto, even with the
>> car of a love rat.
>
>Keying someone's car in your underwear seems odd.

One day I shot an elephant in my pajamas....r


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Duggy

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Dec 11, 2011, 11:17:49 PM12/11/11
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One day I shot in my pajamas.

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Steve Hayes

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Dec 12, 2011, 2:26:29 AM12/12/11
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I dreamed I killed a vampire in my Maidenform bra.

Duggy

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Dec 12, 2011, 2:57:21 AM12/12/11
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I was reading a newsgroup when I saw:

In Dec 12, 5:26 pm, Steve Hayes <hayes...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> I dreamed I killed a vampire in my Maidenform bra.

What is the true and only possible meaning of this sentence?

a - I dreamed (I killed a vampire) in my Maidenform bra.
b - I dreamed I killed (a vampire in my Maidenform bra).
c - I dreamed (I killed a vampire in my Maidenform bra).

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James Hogg

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Dec 12, 2011, 3:26:04 AM12/12/11
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The only possible meaning is that an advertising slogan has become a meme.

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R H Draney

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Dec 12, 2011, 4:14:18 AM12/12/11
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James Hogg filted:
And darned near fifty years before "become a meme" became a meme...I remember
Playboy doing a parody of the Maidenform ads back in the days when Hef lived in
Chicago and the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out....r

the Omrud

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Dec 12, 2011, 5:03:17 AM12/12/11
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On 11/12/2011 16:54, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Robin Bignall<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>>> It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
>>>> car, so she had no need to look it up.
>>
>> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.
>
> That's Detective Constable Bailey, so no uniform.
> Played by Suranne Jones...

Who very memorably portrayed the TARDIS, briefly turned to flesh.

> Which reminds me, how do you pronounce "Suranne"?

No idea. Syoor-ann?

WikiP tells me that her priest suggested to her father she be christened
Sarah Anne, instead of Suranne, her great-grandmother's name, as Suranne
was not "a proper name".

Mancunian, she is, and still lives here. Ah, I see that she was in
Coronation Street for some years.

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David

Duggy

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Dec 12, 2011, 5:07:03 AM12/12/11
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On Dec 12, 8:03 pm, the Omrud <usenet.om...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/2011 16:54, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>
> > Robin Bignall<docro...@ntlworld.com>  wrote:
>
> >>>> It was a female cop keying the car of a love rat boyfriend. She knew the
> >>>> car, so she had no need to look it up.
>
> >> I hope that whoever did the keying took her uniform off first.
>
> > That's Detective Constable Bailey, so no uniform.
> > Played by Suranne Jones...

> Who very memorably portrayed the TARDIS, briefly turned to flesh.

Who didn't portray the TARDIS turned flesh, Who is a charcter not an
actor.

In the Doctor Who universe, Suranne Jones portrayed the Mona Lisa made
flesh.

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Duggy

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Dec 12, 2011, 5:02:49 AM12/12/11
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Ah, yes, when the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out, back
before the pictures had the Playmate's pubic hair airbrushed out.

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Sproz

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Dec 12, 2011, 5:36:06 AM12/12/11
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At some point in between they just had it hairbrushed.

Mark

R H Draney

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Dec 12, 2011, 4:21:21 PM12/12/11
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Sproz filted:
>
>On Dec 12, 10:02=A0am, Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 7:14=A0pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>> > And darned near fifty years before "become a meme" became a meme...I re=
>member
>> > Playboy doing a parody of the Maidenform ads back in the days when Hef =
>lived in
>> > Chicago and the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out....r
>>
>> Ah, yes, when the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out, back
>> before the pictures had the Playmate's pubic hair airbrushed out.
>
>At some point in between they just had it hairbrushed.

And now they show up with no pubic hair at all, so there's no brushing
required...and people wonder why child-molesting is on the upswing....r

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Dec 13, 2011, 1:24:11 AM12/13/11
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R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> writes:

> Sproz filted:
>>
>>On Dec 12, 10:02=A0am, Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 7:14=A0pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > And darned near fifty years before "become a meme" became a
>>> > meme...I remember Playboy doing a parody of the Maidenform ads
>>> > back in the days when Hef lived in Chicago and the Playmates had
>>> > their pubic hair airbrushed out....r
>>>
>>> Ah, yes, when the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out,
>>> back before the pictures had the Playmate's pubic hair airbrushed
>>> out.
>>
>>At some point in between they just had it hairbrushed.
>
> And now they show up with no pubic hair at all, so there's no
> brushing required...and people wonder why child-molesting is on the
> upswing....r

Is it? Or is it just that it's more often reported now?

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Duggy

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Dec 13, 2011, 2:58:06 AM12/13/11
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"If the grass has been removed from the pitch you can play"?

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Duggy

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On Dec 13, 4:24 pm, Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kirshenb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Sproz filted:
>
> >>On Dec 12, 10:02=A0am, Duggy <Paul.Dug...@jcu.edu.au> wrote:
> >>> On Dec 12, 7:14=A0pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> >>> > And darned near fifty years before "become a meme" became a
> >>> > meme...I remember Playboy doing a parody of the Maidenform ads
> >>> > back in the days when Hef lived in Chicago and the Playmates had
> >>> > their pubic hair airbrushed out....r
>
> >>> Ah, yes, when the Playmates had their pubic hair airbrushed out,
> >>> back before the pictures had the Playmate's pubic hair airbrushed
> >>> out.
>
> >>At some point in between they just had it hairbrushed.
>
> > And now they show up with no pubic hair at all, so there's no
> > brushing required...and people wonder why child-molesting is on the
> > upswing....r
>
> Is it?  Or is it just that it's more often reported now?

Reported to authorities or reported on?

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Duggy

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Dec 13, 2011, 2:56:47 AM12/13/11
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How much did you have to pay to do that job?

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Steve Hayes

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Dec 13, 2011, 5:20:46 AM12/13/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:36:06 -0800 (PST), Sproz <mspr...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
If the point got in between it might get heirbrushed.

Evan Kirshenbaum

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Dec 13, 2011, 7:05:11 PM12/13/11
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Both. Especially since most American states (and I'd expect the same
to be true in many other countries) have enacted laws requiring
doctors, teachers, social workers, and the like to file reports any
time they have any reason to suspect that any form of child abuse has
taken place.

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Adam Funk

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Dec 14, 2011, 3:33:46 PM12/14/11
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On 2011-12-12, R H Draney wrote:

> And now they show up with no pubic hair at all, so there's no brushing
> required...and people wonder why child-molesting is on the upswing....r

While researching (FSVO) the oxter/leg question, I came across a
number of essays making related arguments:

The character in Eve Ensler's Vagina Monologues, whose husband
makes her shave, says, "I felt little when my hair was gone down
there, and I couldn't help talking in a baby voice." It is a
dangerous thought, but many, perhaps the majority of men, like
their women to look like pre-pubescent girls. Such an appetite for
shaving has the uncomfortable whiff of paedophilia about it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2003/mar/04/healthandwellbeing.health3


Cosmetic surgeons and expensive underwear promise to give the
illusion of the ‘firm’, ‘pert’ and ‘perky’ breasts which generally
only occur naturally in adolescent girls. Most curiously of all,
women are required to remove the most visible, prominent physical
sign that they have entered adulthood – their bodily hair.

I once spoke with a woman on this very subject – her male partner
had expressed his distaste for her pubic hair. It looked messy, he
had said, it was unhygienic and he ‘just preferred’ the look of a
woman’s genitals shaved (a preference borne, no doubt, from the
normalisation of baldness in both pornography and ‘mainstream’
media). “I don’t get it,” she wondered, bemused. “Why on earth
would he want to feel like he was having sex with a little girl
rather than the grown woman I am?”

http://shutupsitdown.co.uk/2008/04/07/the-politics-of-body-hair-2/


I can't find the sources again, but I also saw the claim that body
shaving is in fact unhygienic because it can encourage ingrown hair
and weakens the skin to bacterial attack.


Also, some current research indicates body hair is still useful:

Hairy humans do not let the bed bugs bite according to research at
the University of Sheffield which shows how hair helps us defend
against and detect blood-thirsty invaders on our bodies.

Sensitive, fine hairs which cover our bodies allow us to feel
parasitic insects on our skin as well as creating a natural barrier
to stop them biting us.

http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/mediacentre/2011/bed-bugs-bite.html




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On Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 8:24:42 PM UTC-6, MC wrote:
> Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
> "keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>
> Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>
> It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
>
> --
>
> "If you can, tell me something happy."
> - Marybones

If this scene is from from Scott and Bailey, Rachael PNC-ed Nick's car meaning she looked up the registration on the Police National Computer to find out his address. She had just found out he is married and wanted to make a little visit to his home. It has nothing to do with scratching the car with a key.

Peter Moylan

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You're too late. Marybones left this group several years ago.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden

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ObAUE. I think you need a "she" before "wanted", unless you ean that he
wanted to visit his own home.


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John Ritson

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In article <10ddba93-7709-4c7a...@googlegroups.com>,
dsh...@gmail.com writes
>On Saturday, December 10, 2011 at 6:24:42 PM UTC-8, MC wrote:
>> Been watching a British cop drama which portrayed a police officer
>> "keying" a car - i.e. scratching the bodywork with a key.
>>
>> Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"
>>
>> It's not in Urban Dictionary. Can someone here decipher it?
>>

Normally 'Police National Computer'. So PNCing would mean entering the
details of a crime into the system.
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Pete

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> Thereafter the incident was referred to as "PNC" or "P.n.c-ing"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_National_Computer

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