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annily
Sep 29, 2013, 1:53:52 AM9/29/13
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The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
How do you pronounce it?
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Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
How do you pronounce it?
--
Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
R H Draney
Sep 29, 2013, 3:15:02 AM9/29/13
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annily filted:
And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
http://oglaf.com/skein/
....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
>How do you pronounce it?
Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
>How do you pronounce it?
And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
http://oglaf.com/skein/
....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Mark Brader
Sep 29, 2013, 3:48:28 AM9/29/13
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"Annily":
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Mark Brader | "Ooh, righteous indignation -- a bold choice!
Toronto | I myself would start with dismay and *work my way up*
m...@vex.net | to righteous indignation." --Murphy Brown
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
Likewise. But it's not a word I've heard pronounced a whole lot.
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
--
Mark Brader | "Ooh, righteous indignation -- a bold choice!
Toronto | I myself would start with dismay and *work my way up*
m...@vex.net | to righteous indignation." --Murphy Brown
John Dunlop
Sep 29, 2013, 3:51:51 AM9/29/13
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annily:
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first but
> does list the long "i" as an alternative.
The OED gives both pronunciations for BrE:
Brit. /ˈmʌɪnətɔː/ , /ˈmɪnətɔː/ , U.S. /ˈmɪnəˌtɔ(ə)r/
But the Longman Pronunciation Dictionary gives both pronunciations for
AmE, not BrE, "min" being the primary one; BrE only has "mine", which I
would agree with.
--
John
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first but
> does list the long "i" as an alternative.
Brit. /ˈmʌɪnətɔː/ , /ˈmɪnətɔː/ , U.S. /ˈmɪnəˌtɔ(ə)r/
But the Longman Pronunciation Dictionary gives both pronunciations for
AmE, not BrE, "min" being the primary one; BrE only has "mine", which I
would agree with.
--
John
Nick Spalding
Sep 29, 2013, 5:54:46 AM9/29/13
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annily wrote, in <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930:
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
> How do you pronounce it?
Long "i", the same as in the palace of Minos where it resided.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930:
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
> How do you pronounce it?
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
annily
Sep 29, 2013, 7:13:05 AM9/29/13
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On 29.09.13 17:21, John Dunlop wrote:
> annily:
>
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first but
>> does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
> The OED gives both pronunciations for BrE:
>
> Brit. /ˈmʌɪnətɔː/ , /ˈmɪnətɔː/ , U.S. /ˈmɪnəˌtɔ(ə)r/
>
I assume that's from OED online. I guess it's been changed since my
> annily:
>
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first but
>> does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>
> The OED gives both pronunciations for BrE:
>
> Brit. /ˈmʌɪnətɔː/ , /ˈmɪnətɔː/ , U.S. /ˈmɪnəˌtɔ(ə)r/
>
older version on CD-ROM was issued.
annily
Sep 29, 2013, 7:15:12 AM9/29/13
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Stan Brown
Sep 29, 2013, 7:25:17 AM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930, annily wrote:
>
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
AHD4 lists both, separated by comma.
>
> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
When I was young, "MYE-n'tar" was usual, probably because the
monster's mother's husband's name was pronounced exactly like the
first word of "minus sign".
I'm not sure how I pronounce it these days. It doesn't come up in
conversation that often!
--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
--Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com
Derek Turner
Sep 29, 2013, 7:42:18 AM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930, annily wrote:
> How do you pronounce it?
(BrE) mine, as taught in school when we did Greek myths (circa 1965)
Mack A. Damia
Sep 29, 2013, 8:03:06 AM9/29/13
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On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:
>annily filted:
>>
>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>
>>How do you pronounce it?
>
>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
--
wrote:
>annily filted:
>>
>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>
>>How do you pronounce it?
>
>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
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CDB
Sep 29, 2013, 9:02:53 AM9/29/13
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On 29/09/2013 8:51 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> How do you pronounce it?
> Short i.
> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New
> Oxford American Dictionary) lists:
> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second
> in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the
> final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American accents
that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer former".
I pronounce "minotaur" [main@tor] (with an "[A]-coloured" schwa), unless
I'm talking to someone who pronounces it with [I]; but I probably
learned the word while in the US.
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in
>> which "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in
>> pie). I'd only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in
>> pit).
> I've often heard it with the long i, on the BBC (and possibly ITV).
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in
>> which "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in
>> pie). I'd only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in
>> pit).
>> How do you pronounce it?
> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New
> Oxford American Dictionary) lists:
> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second
> in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the
> final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American accents
that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer former".
I pronounce "minotaur" [main@tor] (with an "[A]-coloured" schwa), unless
I'm talking to someone who pronounces it with [I]; but I probably
learned the word while in the US.
Katy Jennison
Sep 29, 2013, 10:02:09 AM9/29/13
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--
Katy Jennison
Peter T. Daniels
Sep 29, 2013, 1:15:19 PM9/29/13
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On Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:02:53 AM UTC-4, CDB wrote:
> On 29/09/2013 8:51 AM, Lewis wrote:
>
> > So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second
> > in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the
> > final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
>
> How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American accents
> that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer former".
My "Jack Mormon" officemate at the Assyrian Dictionary many years ago
> On 29/09/2013 8:51 AM, Lewis wrote:
>
> > So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second
> > in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the
> > final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
>
> How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American accents
> that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer former".
said she grew up saying things like "o Lard, I forgot to put the lord
in the pan" -- she was from southern Idaho.
Do we know whether Lewis is a cat/caught mergerer? That would explain
"minotar".
John Briggs
Sep 29, 2013, 2:30:58 PM9/29/13
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--
John Briggs
Mack A. Damia
Sep 29, 2013, 2:37:36 PM9/29/13
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Lead on O kinky turtle.
--
Bart Dinnissen
Sep 29, 2013, 2:39:59 PM9/29/13
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--
Bart Dinnissen
Het was zomerdag.
De doodstille straat lag
te blakeren in de zon.
Een man kwam de hoek om.
James Silverton
Sep 29, 2013, 2:46:48 PM9/29/13
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probably not very consistent as I would use a long "i' for "Minos".
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Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
Mack A. Damia
Sep 29, 2013, 2:53:42 PM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:39:59 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
<dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>annily filted:
>>>>
>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>
>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>
>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>
>Mirror, Shirley?
http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
<dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>annily filted:
>>>>
>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>
>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>
>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>
>Mirror, Shirley?
--
Robin Bignall
Sep 29, 2013, 3:53:19 PM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 10:54:46 +0100, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
wrote:
+1
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)
wrote:
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)
Richard Tobin
Sep 29, 2013, 4:04:05 PM9/29/13
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In article <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>,
gives both for British English; only short for US.
How do you pronounce "Minos"?
On the other hand, I've never heard anyone pronounce "Minoan" with a
long i, which the OED includes as a British pronunciation.
-- Richard
annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"
What version of the OED are you looking at? The online version
>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"
gives both for British English; only short for US.
How do you pronounce "Minos"?
On the other hand, I've never heard anyone pronounce "Minoan" with a
long i, which the OED includes as a British pronunciation.
-- Richard
Robin Bignall
Sep 29, 2013, 4:10:42 PM9/29/13
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Mynotaur.
Nick Spalding
Sep 29, 2013, 4:25:37 PM9/29/13
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Robin Bignall wrote, in <282h491ol84uru7hv...@4ax.com>
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:10:42 +0100:
I hadn't thought about Minoan, there I do use the short 'i'.
Inconsistency'r'us.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:10:42 +0100:
Inconsistency'r'us.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
Mike L
Sep 29, 2013, 5:29:32 PM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:25:37 +0100, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
wrote:
Me, too. But note that in "Minos" I give the second syll its full BrE
"boss" vowel: giving the word pretty well a spondee stress. There's
not a lot of regularity in English pronunciations of adopted ancient
words.
--
Mike.
wrote:
"boss" vowel: giving the word pretty well a spondee stress. There's
not a lot of regularity in English pronunciations of adopted ancient
words.
--
Mike.
Bart Dinnissen
Sep 29, 2013, 5:37:45 PM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:53:42 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
thing.
I stand corrected,
<mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:39:59 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
>><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>annily filted:
>>>>>
>>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>
>>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>>
>>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>>
>>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>>
>>Mirror, Shirley?
>
>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
Well, I always heard mirror, as it seemed to fit so well with the face
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:39:59 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
>><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>annily filted:
>>>>>
>>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>
>>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>>
>>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>>
>>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>>
>>Mirror, Shirley?
>
>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
thing.
I stand corrected,
Mack A. Damia
Sep 29, 2013, 6:05:13 PM9/29/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:37:45 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
Waylon Jennings recorded a version with "mirror".
"Willie Nelson on the Always on My Mind album (Columbia 1982) coaxes
the words from his larynx shyly, bringing a new matter-of-factness to
Brooker's obtuse words. Waylon Jennings pitches in for a verse with
his drier, slyer delivery. The two hell-raisers contrive to ditch
every last trace of Eng Lit from the song. So 'The Miller told his
tale' becomes 'the mirror told its tale'. An alteration which, in
fact, probably enhances its narrative clarity. 'That's quite good,'
Keith Reid admitted, when I told him. 'It's better. You can see why
he's such a good songwriter, can't you?' "
http://procolharum.com/awsop_lotgs.htm
--
<dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:53:42 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:39:59 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
>><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
>>><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>annily filted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>>>
>>>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>>
>>>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>>>
>>>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>>>
>>>Mirror, Shirley?
>>
>>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
>
>Well, I always heard mirror, as it seemed to fit so well with the face
>thing.
>
>I stand corrected,
No need. You're not the only one. Apparently, Willie Nelson and
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:53:42 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 20:39:59 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
>><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 05:03:06 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
>>><mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>annily filted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>>>"Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>>>only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>>>but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you pronounce it?
>>>>>
>>>>>Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>>
>>>>...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>>>
>>>>"As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>>>
>>>Mirror, Shirley?
>>
>>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
>
>Well, I always heard mirror, as it seemed to fit so well with the face
>thing.
>
>I stand corrected,
Waylon Jennings recorded a version with "mirror".
"Willie Nelson on the Always on My Mind album (Columbia 1982) coaxes
the words from his larynx shyly, bringing a new matter-of-factness to
Brooker's obtuse words. Waylon Jennings pitches in for a verse with
his drier, slyer delivery. The two hell-raisers contrive to ditch
every last trace of Eng Lit from the song. So 'The Miller told his
tale' becomes 'the mirror told its tale'. An alteration which, in
fact, probably enhances its narrative clarity. 'That's quite good,'
Keith Reid admitted, when I told him. 'It's better. You can see why
he's such a good songwriter, can't you?' "
http://procolharum.com/awsop_lotgs.htm
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Mark Brader
Sep 29, 2013, 6:08:12 PM9/29/13
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Richard Tobin:
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Mark Brader | "Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My ecumenical
Toronto | compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought,
m...@vex.net | proper consideration." -- Stan Kelly-Bootle
> How do you pronounce "Minos"?
"MEE-noce": long E, long O, unvoiced S.
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Toronto | compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought,
m...@vex.net | proper consideration." -- Stan Kelly-Bootle
R H Draney
Sep 29, 2013, 7:15:24 PM9/29/13
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Lewis filted:
>
>In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
Guess he was worried the site might be too labyrinthine (ObAUE: analyze all the
vowels in *that*)....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29.09.13 16:45, R H Draney wrote:
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>> I am at a loss as to why the question made you think of that.
>
>Really? Did you read the comic, or stop on the warning page?
>
Guess he was worried the site might be too labyrinthine (ObAUE: analyze all the
vowels in *that*)....r
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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
R H Draney
Sep 29, 2013, 7:18:15 PM9/29/13
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Nick Spalding filted:
Which is found just outside of Minot, North Dakota....r
R H Draney
Sep 29, 2013, 7:20:55 PM9/29/13
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Richard Tobin filted:
>
>On the other hand, I've never heard anyone pronounce "Minoan" with a
>long i, which the OED includes as a British pronunciation.
A small thing, but mine own....r
>On the other hand, I've never heard anyone pronounce "Minoan" with a
>long i, which the OED includes as a British pronunciation.
Mack A. Damia
Sep 29, 2013, 7:50:10 PM9/29/13
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On 29 Sep 2013 16:18:15 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
wrote:
As we used to say in the Air Force, "Why not Minot?"
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Robert Bannister
Sep 29, 2013, 7:57:07 PM9/29/13
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On 29/09/13 3:48 PM, Mark Brader wrote:
> "Annily":
>
I tend to despise people who use a long i in words where I don't. Of
course, with those words where I do use a long i, this is simply how the
best people speak.
In other words, my ear gets jarred when I hear "Eye-rak" or
"Mine-a-tor", but then I realise there are other words with the "eye"
sound that have no greater justification, so there really is no point in
trying to claim "that word should be pronounced this way".
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Robert Bannister
> "Annily":
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> Likewise. But it's not a word I've heard pronounced a whole lot.
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
>
I tend to despise people who use a long i in words where I don't. Of
course, with those words where I do use a long i, this is simply how the
best people speak.
In other words, my ear gets jarred when I hear "Eye-rak" or
"Mine-a-tor", but then I realise there are other words with the "eye"
sound that have no greater justification, so there really is no point in
trying to claim "that word should be pronounced this way".
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Robert Bannister
Robert Bannister
Sep 29, 2013, 7:58:54 PM9/29/13
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On 29/09/13 5:54 PM, Nick Spalding wrote:
> annily wrote, in <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930:
>
> annily wrote, in <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:23:52 +0930:
>
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>
>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>
>> How do you pronounce it?
>
> Long "i", the same as in the palace of Minos where it resided.
>
You mean the place pronounced "Meenos".
>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>
>> How do you pronounce it?
>
> Long "i", the same as in the palace of Minos where it resided.
>
There really is no point in arguing about things like this.
--
Robert Bannister
annily
Sep 29, 2013, 9:41:08 PM9/29/13
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On 29.09.13 22:22, Lewis wrote:
> In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29.09.13 16:45, R H Draney wrote:
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
> In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29.09.13 16:45, R H Draney wrote:
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>> And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
>>>
>>> http://oglaf.com/skein/
>>>
>>> ....r
>>>
>>> And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
>>>
>>> http://oglaf.com/skein/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>> I am at a loss as to why the question made you think of that.
>
> Really? Did you read the comic, or stop on the warning page?
>
I read the comic. Perhaps you can explain the connection to me.
>>>
>
>> I am at a loss as to why the question made you think of that.
>
> Really? Did you read the comic, or stop on the warning page?
>
--
Lifelong resident of Adelaide, South Australia
annily
Sep 29, 2013, 9:43:38 PM9/29/13
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On 30.09.13 05:34, Richard Tobin wrote:
> In article <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>,
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>
>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"
>
> What version of the OED are you looking at? The online version
> gives both for British English; only short for US.
>
As I said in another post, a version issued on CD-ROM a few years ago.
> In article <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>,
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>
>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"
>
> What version of the OED are you looking at? The online version
> gives both for British English; only short for US.
>
> How do you pronounce "Minos"?
>
as "Minotaur".
> On the other hand, I've never heard anyone pronounce "Minoan" with a
> long i, which the OED includes as a British pronunciation.
>
John Briggs
Sep 29, 2013, 9:49:16 PM9/29/13
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John Briggs
annily
Sep 29, 2013, 9:51:36 PM9/29/13
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On 29.09.13 22:22, Lewis wrote:
> In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29.09.13 16:45, R H Draney wrote:
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>> And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
>>>
>>> http://oglaf.com/skein/
>>>
>>> ....r
>>>
>>>
>
>> I am at a loss as to why the question made you think of that.
>
> Really? Did you read the comic, or stop on the warning page?
>
Oh sorry, I did forget to click on the "I am over 18" link (if you see
> In message <52480c6b$0$25395$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29.09.13 16:45, R H Draney wrote:
>>> annily filted:
>>>>
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>
>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>
>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>> And the question made me think of this (NSFW-adjacent):
>>>
>>> http://oglaf.com/skein/
>>>
>>> ....r
>>>
>>>
>
>> I am at a loss as to why the question made you think of that.
>
> Really? Did you read the comic, or stop on the warning page?
>
my other reply that I didn't, that was an error).
annily
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Sep 30, 2013, 6:41:18 AM9/30/13
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On 30/09/2013 1:07 AM, Lewis wrote:
> CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> ITV).
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>> Short i.
>>> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New
>>> Oxford American Dictionary) lists:
>>> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
>>> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
>>> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
>>> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it
>>> second in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA
>>> for the final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with
>>> far and car.
>> How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American
>> accents that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer
>> former".
> Farmer with an a sound like in far and car. Former is a definite o
> sound like in bore, door, soar, and gore.
So, "Minotar"? I think that's a new item on our growing list of variants.
> CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis,
>>>> in which "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i"
>>>> (as in pie). I'd only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i"
>>>> (as in pit).
>>> I've often heard it with the long i, on the BBC (and possibly
>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis,
>>>> in which "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i"
>>>> (as in pie). I'd only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i"
>>>> (as in pit).
>>> ITV).
>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New
>>> Oxford American Dictionary) lists:
>>> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
>>> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
>>> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
>>> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it
>>> second in both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA
>>> for the final vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with
>>> far and car.
>> How do you say "former farmer"? I've head there are American
>> accents that would make that phrase sound (to me) like "farmer
>> former".
> Farmer with an a sound like in far and car. Former is a definite o
> sound like in bore, door, soar, and gore.
So, "Minotar"? I think that's a new item on our growing list of variants.
annily
Sep 30, 2013, 7:31:14 AM9/30/13
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above?
Nick Spalding
Sep 30, 2013, 10:05:56 AM9/30/13
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Mike L wrote, in <bl6h49d3q15ii8nv7...@4ax.com>
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:29:32 +0100:
Yes, I do too.
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Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
on Sun, 29 Sep 2013 22:29:32 +0100:
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Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
John Briggs
Sep 30, 2013, 10:06:02 AM9/30/13
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John Briggs
John Briggs
Sep 30, 2013, 10:25:27 AM9/30/13
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On 30/09/2013 07:31, Lewis wrote:
> In message <Cl_1u.20243$s36....@fx06.am4>
> John Briggs <john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> On 29/09/2013 13:03, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>
> I claim non sequitur.
"As the miller told his tale" is a reference to "The Miller's Tale".
"That her face, at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale" is
the /non sequitur/ as "The Miller's Tale" isn't a ghost story.
--
John Briggs
> In message <Cl_1u.20243$s36....@fx06.am4>
> John Briggs <john.b...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> On 29/09/2013 13:03, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>> On 29 Sep 2013 00:15:02 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> annily filted:
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>
>>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>>
>>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>>
>>>> annily filted:
>>>>>
>>>>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>>>>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>>>>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>>>>>
>>>>> OED and Macquarie only list the short "i"; M-W online lists this first
>>>>> but does list the long "i" as an alternative.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you pronounce it?
>>>>
>>>> Short "i", but I think Elton used the long "i" on his first album....
>>>
>>> ...and a Mondegreen in Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade of Pale" -
>>>
>>> "As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>
>> Which makes even less sense, as "The Miller's Tale" isn't a ghost story.
>>>
>>> "As the Minotaur his tail", is, "As the miller told his tale."
>
>
> I claim non sequitur.
"As the miller told his tale" is a reference to "The Miller's Tale".
"That her face, at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale" is
the /non sequitur/ as "The Miller's Tale" isn't a ghost story.
--
John Briggs
Jerry Friedman
Sep 30, 2013, 10:59:10 AM9/30/13
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On 9/29/13 6:51 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
Ditto, but I'd probably say "Minos" with the "mine" vowel. See comment
by Nick Spalding.
> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New Oxford
> American Dictionary) lists:
>
> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
>
> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
>
> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
>
> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second in
> both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the final
> vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
Now we're getting to the interesting part. I probably pronounce it
either that way or with my "caught" vowel, which is between my "car"
vowel and my "core" vowel. Dictionaries don't seem to recognize this
possibility, and you have to use an ad hoc IPA symbol for it.
I probably do the same in "dinosaur", with perhaps the added option of
the "core" vowel. "Laura", "laurel", and "Taurus" have "core" for me.
I believe there are Americans from the Midwest and West who pronounce
"Laurie" /'lAri/ and "Lorrie" (nickname for "Lorraine") /'lOri/, and
Americans from the East who do the reverse.
--
Jerry Friedman
> In message <5247c11d$0$25186$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com>
> annily <ann...@annily.invalid> wrote:
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
>> The BBC has just started airing a TV series called Atlantis, in which
>> "Minotaur" is consistently pronounced with a long "i" (as in pie). I'd
>> only ever heard it pronounced with a short "i" (as in pit).
>
> I've often heard it with the long i, on the BBC (and possibly ITV).
>
>
>> How do you pronounce it?
>
> Short i.
>
Ditto, but I'd probably say "Minos" with the "mine" vowel. See comment
by Nick Spalding.
> The Oxford Dictionary of English installed on OS X (not the New Oxford
> American Dictionary) lists:
>
> Minotaur |ˈmɪnətɔː, ˈmʌɪ-|Greek Mythology
>
> for British English, while the NOAD lists:
>
> Minotaur |ˈminəˌtôr, ˈmī-|Greek Mythology
>
> So, they show the long sound slightly differently, and list it second in
> both cases. They also show an entirely different IPA for the final
> vowel. I pronounce the final vowel to rhyme with far and car.
either that way or with my "caught" vowel, which is between my "car"
vowel and my "core" vowel. Dictionaries don't seem to recognize this
possibility, and you have to use an ad hoc IPA symbol for it.
I probably do the same in "dinosaur", with perhaps the added option of
the "core" vowel. "Laura", "laurel", and "Taurus" have "core" for me.
I believe there are Americans from the Midwest and West who pronounce
"Laurie" /'lAri/ and "Lorrie" (nickname for "Lorraine") /'lOri/, and
Americans from the East who do the reverse.
--
Jerry Friedman
Bart Dinnissen
Sep 30, 2013, 12:44:27 PM9/30/13
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:05:13 -0700, in alt.usage.english Mack A. Damia
<mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:37:45 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
>>
>>Well, I always heard mirror, as it seemed to fit so well with the face
>>thing.
>>
>>I stand corrected,
>
>No need. You're not the only one. Apparently, Willie Nelson and
>Waylon Jennings recorded a version with "mirror".
<mybaco...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 23:37:45 +0200, Bart Dinnissen
><dinn...@chello.nl> wrote:
>>>http://www.kissthisguy.com/a-whiter-shade-of-pale-procol-harum-misheard-song-1742.htm
>>
>>Well, I always heard mirror, as it seemed to fit so well with the face
>>thing.
>>
>>I stand corrected,
>
>No need. You're not the only one. Apparently, Willie Nelson and
>Waylon Jennings recorded a version with "mirror".
> So 'The Miller told his
>tale' becomes 'the mirror told its tale'. An alteration which, in
>fact, probably enhances its narrative clarity. 'That's quite good,'
>Keith Reid admitted, when I told him. 'It's better. You can see why
>he's such a good songwriter, can't you?' "
:)
>tale' becomes 'the mirror told its tale'. An alteration which, in
>fact, probably enhances its narrative clarity. 'That's quite good,'
>Keith Reid admitted, when I told him. 'It's better. You can see why
>he's such a good songwriter, can't you?' "
Robert Bannister
Sep 30, 2013, 8:16:11 PM9/30/13
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On 01/10/2013 20:40, Lewis wrote:
> In message <sRf2u.7894$zx5....@fx27.am4>
> You're putting too much stock in the word ghostly.
>
> The song is not about a ghost, nor is the reference to The Miller's Tale
> implying that it is a ghost story either.
Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her face, at first just
ghostly, turn a whiter shade of pale?
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John Briggs
> In message <sRf2u.7894$zx5....@fx27.am4>
>
> The song is not about a ghost, nor is the reference to The Miller's Tale
> implying that it is a ghost story either.
Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her face, at first just
ghostly, turn a whiter shade of pale?
--
John Briggs
Mack A. Damia
Oct 1, 2013, 4:28:57 PM10/1/13
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On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:18:05 +0100, John Briggs
If that's the way you read it, if somebody was reciting "The Miller's
Tale" to her, she might turn a "Whiter Shade of Pale" (or
embarrassingly red) at a certain part of the tale involving a tail.
--
Tale" to her, she might turn a "Whiter Shade of Pale" (or
embarrassingly red) at a certain part of the tale involving a tail.
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Les (BrE)
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Ray
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Peter Young
Oct 2, 2013, 5:12:26 AM10/2/13
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Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
David D S
Oct 2, 2013, 5:58:45 AM10/2/13
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Peter Young wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
> > On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
> >>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
> >>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
> pale?
> > > > >
> >>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
> G-string.
> > > >
> >>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
> > >
> >> It made a change from the usual scheidt
> > >
> > Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>
> They're coming in the window.
>
> Peter.
Nah! Widor was much later than Bach, Scheidt, Schein, or
> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
> > On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
> >>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
> >>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
> pale?
> > > > >
> >>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
> G-string.
> > > >
> >>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
> > >
> >> It made a change from the usual scheidt
> > >
> > Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>
> They're coming in the window.
>
> Peter.
Schutz!
Oh for the Green Hill of Venice!
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Peter Young
Oct 2, 2013, 6:22:31 AM10/2/13
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On 2 Oct 2013 "David D S" <inv...@m-invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Peter Young wrote:
>> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>>>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
>>>>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
>> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
>> pale?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
>> G-string.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
>>>>
>>>> It made a change from the usual scheidt
>>>>
>>> Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>>
>> They're coming in the window.
>>
>> Peter.
> Nah! Widor was much later than Bach, Scheidt, Schein, or
> Schutz!
> Oh for the Green Hill of Venice!
Oh, Scheidt!
> Peter Young wrote:
>> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>>>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
>>>>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
>> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
>> pale?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
>> G-string.
>>>>>
>>>>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
>>>>
>>>> It made a change from the usual scheidt
>>>>
>>> Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>>
>> They're coming in the window.
>>
>> Peter.
> Nah! Widor was much later than Bach, Scheidt, Schein, or
> Schutz!
> Oh for the Green Hill of Venice!
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Mack A. Damia
Oct 2, 2013, 8:22:35 AM10/2/13
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 10:34:16 +0000 (UTC), Lewis
<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <2tbm49t27kkf1peeg...@4ax.com>
>Or, perhaps like in the story, she turned her face away and showed her
>pale tail?
There was a full moon in the tale - actually, several.
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<g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>In message <2tbm49t27kkf1peeg...@4ax.com>
>pale tail?
There was a full moon in the tale - actually, several.
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Jerry Friedman
Oct 2, 2013, 11:35:00 AM10/2/13
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On 10/2/13 4:22 AM, Peter Young wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2013 "David D S" <inv...@m-invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Peter Young wrote:
>
>>> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>>>>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
>>>>>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
>>> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
>>> pale?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
>>> G-string.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
>>>>>
>>>>> It made a change from the usual scheidt
>>>>>
>>>> Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>>>
>>> They're coming in the window.
>>>
>>> Peter.
>
>> Nah! Widor was much later than Bach, Scheidt, Schein, or
>> Schutz!
>
>> Oh for the Green Hill of Venice!
>
> Oh, Scheidt!
Is there an award for these? Maybe someone can send books to who
> On 2 Oct 2013 "David D S" <inv...@m-invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Peter Young wrote:
>
>>> On 2 Oct 2013 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/10/2013 05:59, David D S wrote:
>>>>> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:36:41 +0800, Robert Bannister
>>>>>> <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/10/13 4:18 AM, John Briggs wrote:
>>>>>>>> Why else, as the miller told his tale, would her
>>> face, >>>>> at first just ghostly, turn a whiter shade of
>>> pale?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expect that was the result of the air on her
>>> G-string.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Her bach was worse than her bite?
>>>>>
>>>>> It made a change from the usual scheidt
>>>>>
>>>> Schein a light! (Schutz the door.)
>>>
>>> They're coming in the window.
>>>
>>> Peter.
>
>> Nah! Widor was much later than Bach, Scheidt, Schein, or
>> Schutz!
>
>> Oh for the Green Hill of Venice!
>
> Oh, Scheidt!
deserves them.
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Jerry Friedman
Robin Bignall
Oct 2, 2013, 4:15:30 PM10/2/13
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awarded to overall winners of the SDC: a BW double-ewe, for example, or
a Lamb-borghini.
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Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)
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