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arth...@yahoo.com
May 1, 2013, 7:22:27 AM5/1/13
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‘Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three counties.’
This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
The trailer can be found on Youtube.
But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
The diner is in one of them isn't it?
Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts in three counties?
Gratefully,
Navi.
This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
The trailer can be found on Youtube.
But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
The diner is in one of them isn't it?
Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts in three counties?
Gratefully,
Navi.
the Omrud
May 1, 2013, 7:27:07 AM5/1/13
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On 01/05/2013 12:22, arth...@yahoo.com wrote:
> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three counties.�
It's like saying that a restaurant has the best steaks in all the
countries of Europe. It doesn't matter where it is, no other restaurant
in Europe has better steaks.
It's not meant to be taken literally - if it were then the names of the
counties would be given. Just read it as "for miles around".
--
David
> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three counties.�
>
> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
> The diner is in one of them isn't it?
> Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
> Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
> Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts in three counties?
The doughnuts are the best to be found across all three counties.
> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
> The diner is in one of them isn't it?
> Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
> Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
> Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts in three counties?
It's like saying that a restaurant has the best steaks in all the
countries of Europe. It doesn't matter where it is, no other restaurant
in Europe has better steaks.
It's not meant to be taken literally - if it were then the names of the
counties would be given. Just read it as "for miles around".
--
David
Don Phillipson
May 1, 2013, 9:22:16 AM5/1/13
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<arth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7efd3eb8-83ac-4eac...@googlegroups.com...
<<
�Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
This is standard English-language vernacular in the common
American semantic context.
1. "In three counties" specifies a finite geographic region.
2. Anything "the best in three counties" is asserted to be the
best in that region.
3. The semantic environment is centred on banks as targets
for bank robbery. The quotation advises robbers to avoid banks
with many people nearby. The unstated middle term (enthymeme)
of the logical sequence is that the best diners attract people:
so that avoiding people implies that robbers should avoid
banks near the best diners. Another enthymeme is the
assumption that good donuts attract more people than
do mediocre donuts.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
news:7efd3eb8-83ac-4eac...@googlegroups.com...
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�Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
American semantic context.
1. "In three counties" specifies a finite geographic region.
2. Anything "the best in three counties" is asserted to be the
best in that region.
3. The semantic environment is centred on banks as targets
for bank robbery. The quotation advises robbers to avoid banks
with many people nearby. The unstated middle term (enthymeme)
of the logical sequence is that the best diners attract people:
so that avoiding people implies that robbers should avoid
banks near the best diners. Another enthymeme is the
assumption that good donuts attract more people than
do mediocre donuts.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
Scion
May 1, 2013, 10:57:47 AM5/1/13
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Don Phillipson put finger to keyboard:
Surely the implication in this example is that good donuts attract lots of
cops?
cops?
Evan Kirshenbaum
May 1, 2013, 5:27:55 PM5/1/13
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stereotyped as being inordinately fond of donuts[1], so if you rob a
bank across from a place known for its donuts, the odds are good that
you will find that there are cops right across the street.
[1] This stereotype was not harmed by the recent mess in and near
Boston, after which all businesses were asked to close except for
a few restaurants to help feed all the police officers. Dunkin'
Donuts was one of the ones left open.
--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |It does me no injury for my neighbor
SF Bay Area (1982-) |to say there are twenty gods, or no
Chicago (1964-1982) |God.
| Thomas Jefferson
evan.kir...@gmail.com
http://www.kirshenbaum.net/
Jerry Friedman
May 1, 2013, 6:31:24 PM5/1/13
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On May 1, 8:57 am, Scion <a...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Don Phillipson put finger to keyboard:
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> > <arthu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Don Phillipson put finger to keyboard:
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> > <<
> > ‘Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
> > counties.’
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> > <<
> > ‘Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
> > counties.’
> > 3. The semantic environment is centred on banks as targets for bank
> > robbery. The quotation advises robbers to avoid banks with many people
> > nearby. The unstated middle term (enthymeme)
> > of the logical sequence is that the best diners attract people:
> > so that avoiding people implies that robbers should avoid banks near the
> > best diners. Another enthymeme is the assumption that good donuts
> > attract more people than do mediocre donuts.
>
> Surely the implication in this example is that good donuts attract lots of
> cops?
time.
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Jerry Friedman
Iain Archer
May 1, 2013, 6:41:01 PM5/1/13
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Jerry Friedman wrote on Wed, 1 May 2013 at 15:31:24 GMT
So why don't banks have a doughnut counter?
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Iain Archer
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Iain Archer
BCD
May 1, 2013, 7:59:18 PM5/1/13
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Best Wishes,
--BCD
R H Draney
May 1, 2013, 8:36:38 PM5/1/13
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Evan Kirshenbaum filted:
Peter Boyd, quoting a favorite saying of his grandfather, is "By golly, I'm the
richest man in six counties"...it's never suggested that Boyd and his
grandfather refer to the same six counties....
>> 3. The semantic environment is centred on banks as targets
>> for bank robbery. The quotation advises robbers to avoid banks
>> with many people nearby. The unstated middle term (enthymeme)
>> of the logical sequence is that the best diners attract people:
>> so that avoiding people implies that robbers should avoid
>> banks near the best diners. Another enthymeme is the
>> assumption that good donuts attract more people than
>> do mediocre donuts.
>
>Not quite with the last. At least in the US, police officers are
>stereotyped as being inordinately fond of donuts[1], so if you rob a
>bank across from a place known for its donuts, the odds are good that
>you will find that there are cops right across the street.
>
>[1] This stereotype was not harmed by the recent mess in and near
> Boston, after which all businesses were asked to close except for
> a few restaurants to help feed all the police officers. Dunkin'
> Donuts was one of the ones left open.
Further reinforced in the animated movie "Wreck-It Ralph", in which the palace
guards of the video game "Sugar Rush", set in a world made entirely of sweets,
are two talking donuts named Wynnchel and Duncan (referencing the Winchell's and
Dunkin Donuts chains respectively)....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>"Don Phillipson" <e9...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> writes:
>
>> <arth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7efd3eb8-83ac-4eac...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
>> three counties.�
>>
>> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>>
>> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
>> The diner is in one of them isn't it?
>> Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
>> Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
>> Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner
>> when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this
>> is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts
>> in three counties?
>>>>
>>
>> This is standard English-language vernacular in the common
>> American semantic context.
>> 1. "In three counties" specifies a finite geographic region.
>> 2. Anything "the best in three counties" is asserted to be the
>> best in that region.
The closing line of the movie "Bedtime for Bonzo", spoken by Ronald Reagan as
>"Don Phillipson" <e9...@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> writes:
>
>> <arth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:7efd3eb8-83ac-4eac...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
>> three counties.�
>>
>> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>>
>> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
>> The diner is in one of them isn't it?
>> Does it deliver donuts to the other two counties?
>> Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
>> Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to that diner
>> when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly get? I think this
>> is what it means, but can one say, in this case, that it has the best donuts
>> in three counties?
>>>>
>>
>> This is standard English-language vernacular in the common
>> American semantic context.
>> 1. "In three counties" specifies a finite geographic region.
>> 2. Anything "the best in three counties" is asserted to be the
>> best in that region.
Peter Boyd, quoting a favorite saying of his grandfather, is "By golly, I'm the
richest man in six counties"...it's never suggested that Boyd and his
grandfather refer to the same six counties....
>> 3. The semantic environment is centred on banks as targets
>> for bank robbery. The quotation advises robbers to avoid banks
>> with many people nearby. The unstated middle term (enthymeme)
>> of the logical sequence is that the best diners attract people:
>> so that avoiding people implies that robbers should avoid
>> banks near the best diners. Another enthymeme is the
>> assumption that good donuts attract more people than
>> do mediocre donuts.
>
>Not quite with the last. At least in the US, police officers are
>stereotyped as being inordinately fond of donuts[1], so if you rob a
>bank across from a place known for its donuts, the odds are good that
>you will find that there are cops right across the street.
>
>[1] This stereotype was not harmed by the recent mess in and near
> Boston, after which all businesses were asked to close except for
> a few restaurants to help feed all the police officers. Dunkin'
> Donuts was one of the ones left open.
guards of the video game "Sugar Rush", set in a world made entirely of sweets,
are two talking donuts named Wynnchel and Duncan (referencing the Winchell's and
Dunkin Donuts chains respectively)....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Tony Cooper
May 1, 2013, 10:39:12 PM5/1/13
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On 1 May 2013 17:36:38 -0700, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>The closing line of the movie "Bedtime for Bonzo", spoken by Ronald Reagan as
>Peter Boyd, quoting a favorite saying of his grandfather, is "By golly, I'm the
>richest man in six counties"
>
I somehow find it greatly disturbing that you know this.
>The closing line of the movie "Bedtime for Bonzo", spoken by Ronald Reagan as
>Peter Boyd, quoting a favorite saying of his grandfather, is "By golly, I'm the
>richest man in six counties"
>
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
Curlytop
May 4, 2013, 4:04:23 AM5/4/13
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Don Phillipson set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:
> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
> counties.�
>
> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
It could be built to cover the triple point where the three counties in
question meet.
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continuum:
> �Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
> counties.�
>
> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
question meet.
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ξ: ) Proud to be curly
Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply
Dr Nick
May 4, 2013, 4:40:22 AM5/4/13
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Curlytop <pvstownse...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> Don Phillipson set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
>
>> ‘Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
>> counties.’
>>
>> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>>
>> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
>
> It could be built to cover the triple point where the three counties in
> question meet.
It could be here:
> Don Phillipson set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
> continuum:
>
>> ‘Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in three
>> counties.’
>>
>> This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>> The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>>
>> But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties?
>
> It could be built to cover the triple point where the three counties in
> question meet.
http://www.threecounties.co.uk/
Evan Kirshenbaum
May 4, 2013, 7:15:25 PM5/4/13
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arth...@yahoo.com writes:
> 'Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
Others have weighed in, but I don't think that anybody's quite got the
sense of "in three counties" that I get. It's not that the diner has
the best donuts in counties A, B, and C, but rather that you'd have to
go three counties over (in some direction) to find a place that serves
better donuts. That is, you'd have to start at the diner and pass all
the way through two other counties before you found a county that
contained someplace that had better.
This is much more exclusive. For the other reading, if the diner was
on the county line, there could be a better place across the street.
--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |As the judge remarked the day that
SF Bay Area (1982-) | he acquitted my Aunt Hortense,
Chicago (1964-1982) |To be smut
|It must be ut-
evan.kir...@gmail.com |Terly without redeeming social
| importance.
http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ | Tom Lehrer
> 'Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
sense of "in three counties" that I get. It's not that the diner has
the best donuts in counties A, B, and C, but rather that you'd have to
go three counties over (in some direction) to find a place that serves
better donuts. That is, you'd have to start at the diner and pass all
the way through two other counties before you found a county that
contained someplace that had better.
This is much more exclusive. For the other reading, if the diner was
on the county line, there could be a better place across the street.
--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |As the judge remarked the day that
SF Bay Area (1982-) | he acquitted my Aunt Hortense,
Chicago (1964-1982) |To be smut
|It must be ut-
evan.kir...@gmail.com |Terly without redeeming social
| importance.
http://www.kirshenbaum.net/ | Tom Lehrer
rafiek...@gmail.com
Aug 15, 2013, 6:24:53 AM8/15/13
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You are all incorrect. It means this is where all the police are.duh!!!!
Professor Redwine
Aug 15, 2013, 7:13:24 AM8/15/13
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On Sunday, 5 May 2013 01:15:25 UTC+2, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> arth...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
> > 'Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
>
> > three counties.'
>
> >
>
> > This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>
> > The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> >
>
> > But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties? The
>
> > diner is in one of them isn't it? Does it deliver donuts to the
>
> > other two counties? Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
>
> > Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to
>
> > that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly
>
> > get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case,
>
> > that it has the best donuts in three counties?
>
>
>
> Others have weighed in, but I don't think that anybody's quite got the
>
> sense of "in three counties" that I get. It's not that the diner has
>
> the best donuts in counties A, B, and C, but rather that you'd have to
>
> go three counties over (in some direction) to find a place that serves
>
> better donuts. That is, you'd have to start at the diner and pass all
>
> the way through two other counties before you found a county that
>
> contained someplace that had better.
>
>
>
> This is much more exclusive. For the other reading, if the diner was
>
> on the county line, there could be a better place across the street.
>
>
This is the best summary of how I would interpret it. Thanks, Evan.
> arth...@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>
> > 'Never rob a bank across from a diner that has the best donuts in
>
> > three counties.'
>
> >
>
> > This is a line I heard in the trailer for a film called "2 Guns".
>
> > The trailer can be found on Youtube.
>
> >
>
> > But how can a diner have the best donuts in THREE counties? The
>
> > diner is in one of them isn't it? Does it deliver donuts to the
>
> > other two counties? Is it a chain with outlets in three counties?
>
> > Or do the people from the three counties in question all come to
>
> > that diner when they want to have the best donuts they can possibly
>
> > get? I think this is what it means, but can one say, in this case,
>
> > that it has the best donuts in three counties?
>
>
>
> Others have weighed in, but I don't think that anybody's quite got the
>
> sense of "in three counties" that I get. It's not that the diner has
>
> the best donuts in counties A, B, and C, but rather that you'd have to
>
> go three counties over (in some direction) to find a place that serves
>
> better donuts. That is, you'd have to start at the diner and pass all
>
> the way through two other counties before you found a county that
>
> contained someplace that had better.
>
>
>
> This is much more exclusive. For the other reading, if the diner was
>
> on the county line, there could be a better place across the street.
>
>
Professor Redwine
Aug 15, 2013, 7:13:57 AM8/15/13
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On Thursday, 15 August 2013 12:24:53 UTC+2, rafiek...@gmail.com wrote:
> You are all incorrect. It means this is where all the police are.duh!!!!
That's a good take on it - would have to see the film to be sure.
> You are all incorrect. It means this is where all the police are.duh!!!!
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