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Marius Hancu

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:31:54 AM11/23/09
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Hello:

Do you think that:

"Well, I feel_so that_ I've violently landed somewhere_that_ I think I
must have been thrown."

could still be used these days? Also, does it mean:

"Well, I feel that _in order to_ violently land somewhere I must have
been thrown."

Very strange (or perhaps not?), two quite distant versions are
available for the last sentence:

In my book:
---
[Stether feels he's been treated badly by Sarah, the latest ambassador
of her mother to Paris.

"I've been like a lamb to Sarah. I've only put my back to the wall.
It's to THAT one naturally staggers when one has been violently pushed
there."

She watched him a moment. "Thrown over?"

"Well, I feel so that I've violently landed somewhere that I think I
must have been thrown."

Henry James, The Ambassadors, p. 329
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On the Web the last sentence reads:
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"Well, as I feel I've landed somewhere I think I must have been
thrown."

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/432/432-h/432-h.htm
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu

James Hogg

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:40:51 AM11/23/09
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Marius Hancu wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Do you think that:
>
> "Well, I feel_so that_ I've violently landed somewhere_that_ I think
> I must have been thrown."
>
> could still be used these days? Also, does it mean:
>
> "Well, I feel that _in order to_ violently land somewhere I must
> have been thrown."
>
> Very strange (or perhaps not?), two quite distant versions are
> available for the last sentence:
>
> In my book: --- [Stether feels he's been treated badly by Sarah, the
> latest ambassador of her mother to Paris.
>
> "I've been like a lamb to Sarah. I've only put my back to the wall.
> It's to THAT one naturally staggers when one has been violently
> pushed there."
>
> She watched him a moment. "Thrown over?"
>
> "Well, I feel so that I've violently landed somewhere that I think I
> must have been thrown."

I don't think "so that" is a unit here. The "so" goes with "feel": he
feels so much, he has such a strong sensation, that ...

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James

Marius Hancu

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:23:51 AM11/23/09
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Ah, that explains it quite well.

Thanks.
Marius Hancu

James Hogg

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:24:27 AM11/23/09
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Only if I'm right...

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James

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