Is there a word for people from Cambridge and likewise for Oxford?

[Bertel Lund Hansen]

Is there a word for people from Cambridge and likewise for
Oxford? I'm thinking about "Liverpudlian" and the like.

--
Bertel, Kolt, Denmark

[bert]

I'm pretty sure they're "Cantabrians" and "Oxonians".
--

[Henrik Snog]

Or rather, Cantabrigian.

--
Henrik Snog, Denmark

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Yes. A Cantabrian is someone from the Spanish region of Cantabria.

"Oxonian" is much more widely used than "Cantabrigian"; at least, so it
seems to me.

The universities are often listed as "Oxon." and "Cantab." when listing
degrees, e.g. "M.A., D.Phil., D.Sc. (Oxon.)" or "M.A., Ph.D.,
Sc.D.(Cantab.)".


--
athel

[Garrett Wollman]

In article <cuvpug...@mid.individual.net>,

Athel Cornish-Bowden <athe...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>"Oxonian" is much more widely used than "Cantabrigian"; at least, so it
>seems to me.

That's probably true in general, but in *this* Cambridge, the locals
are sometimes jocularly referred to as "Cantabrigians" or "Cantabs",
whereas the nearest several "Oxfords" are small towns of little
interest to anyone, so it can very. (My Cambridge, formerly Newtowne,
was named in honor of the English one. However, the only educational
institution by that name here is Cambridge College, which would be
pretty hard to confuse with the ancient University of Cambridge across
the pond.)

-GAWollman

--
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wol...@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers. | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

The OED says:

Cantab, n. and adj.
A. n.
A colloquial abbreviation of Cantabrigian adj. and n.

B. adj.
[Abbrev. of Latin Cantabrigiensis.] Of the University of Cambridge.
Usu. succeeding noun in titles, as M.A. Cantab.

Cantabrigian, adj. and n.
Etymology: < Cantabrigia, Latin form of the name Cambridge + -an
suffix.

1. Of or belonging to Cambridge; a member of the University of
Cambridge.

2. Belonging to Cambridge, Mass., or to Harvard University.


Wikipedia says that "Oxon" in the abbreviation of a degree is "short for
(Academia) Oxoniensis".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of_the_University_of_Oxford

I've looked at the Oxford U. website. That didn't help because the
abbreviation "Oxf" is preferred.

OED:

Oxon., n. and adj.

Etymology: < post-classical Latin Oxon. (1205 in a British source),
shortened (as a graphic abbreviation) < Oxonia (see Oxonian n. and
adj.). With use as adjective compare post-classical Latin
Oxoniensis, adjective (early 13th cent. with reference to the city
of Oxford, mid 13th cent. with reference to the university of
Oxford).


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[Bertel Lund Hansen]

Garrett Wollman skrev:

> That's probably true in general, but in *this* Cambridge, the locals
> are sometimes jocularly referred to as "Cantabrigians" or "Cantabs",
> whereas the nearest several "Oxfords" are small towns of little
> interest to anyone, so it can very.

Yes, a lot!

--
Bertel, Kolt, Denmark

[bob]

I've always regarded these as being used for members of the respective
universities rather than inhabitants of the cities who have nothing to
do with the academic institutions. I am not really aware of "townie"
demonyms.

Robin

[Whiskers]

OED also has "Oxfordian, n. and adj" with similar meanings, from the
17th century onwards - and with a special meaning

3. Of or relating to Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford (1550–1604);
spec. designating, relating to, or advocating the theory that he was
the author of works attributed to Shakespeare.

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-- Whiskers
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[Sneaky O. Possum]

Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in
news:slrnmolvl4.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net:

[snip]

> OED also has "Oxfordian, n. and adj" with similar meanings, from the
> 17th century onwards - and with a special meaning
>

> 3. Of or relating to Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford (1550鈥"1604);

> spec. designating, relating to, or advocating the theory that he
> was the author of works attributed to Shakespeare.

Back when humanities.lit.authors.shakespeare was thriving, I
occasionally took issue with the fact that the advocates of Edward de
Vere who hung out there referred to themselves as 'Oxfordians,' but they
referred to advocates of William Shakespeare as 'Stratfordians' rather
than 'Shakespearians.'

There were also some advocates of Christopher Marlowe (faked his own
death, don't you know), but they could never agree on whether they
should be called 'Marlovians' or something else. Since Marlowe attended
Cambridge, I suppose they could call themselves Cantabrigians.

The general term that people who reject Shakespeare's authorship use for
themselves is 'anti-Stratfordians.' A few of them took umbrage when
I referred to them as anti-Shakespearians - they felt that was
inaccurate, for some reason. No one complained when I switched to
calling them Shakespeare deniers, but that's probably due to the fact
that there was hardly anyone left in the group by that time.
--
S.O.P.

[Katy Jennison]

"Oxon" is also
the usual abbreviation for the county of Oxfordshire, and that's
probably the first meaning the average Brit-in-the-street will think of..

--
Katy Jennison

[Peter Moylan]

On 25/06/15 12:13, Katy Jennison wrote:
>
> "Oxon" is also
> the usual abbreviation for the county of Oxfordshire, and that's
> probably the first meaning the average Brit-in-the-street will think of..

I'm surprised that nobody has yet thrown in the following limerick, so
I'll toss it in myself. Written by Anon, that author of most of the best
limericks.

There once was a vicar of Salisbury
Whose manners were all halisbury-scalisbury
He went around Hampshire
Without any pampshire
Till the bishop told him to walisbury.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2015-06-24 16:26:09 +0000, Peter Duncanson [BrE] said:

> [ … ]

>
>
> Wikipedia says that "Oxon" in the abbreviation of a degree is "short for
> (Academia) Oxoniensis".
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of_the_University_of_Oxford
>
> I've looked at the Oxford U. website. That didn't help because the
> abbreviation "Oxf" is preferred.

That's interesting, and it follows the modern practice of abbreviating
the English names of degrees where most other universities abbreviate
the Latin names: B.M., D.M., D.Phil., D.Sc. etc; rather than M.B.,
M.D., Ph.D., Sc.D. etc.



--
athel

[John Holmes]

"Whiskers" <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnmolvl4.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net...

There are many interesting Oxfordian animals shown here:

http://dinosauralive.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Oxfordian_Animals


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[Traddict]

"Bertel Lund Hansen" <gade...@lundhansen.dk> a écrit dans le message de
groupe de discussion : mmepik$t94$1...@dont-email.me...

Vary much so!

>
> --
> Bertel, Kolt, Denmark

[Jerry Friedman]

On 6/24/15 10:13 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 25/06/15 12:13, Katy Jennison wrote:
>>
>> "Oxon" is also
>> the usual abbreviation for the county of Oxfordshire, and that's
>> probably the first meaning the average Brit-in-the-street will think of..
>
> I'm surprised that nobody has yet thrown in the following limerick, so
> I'll toss it in myself. Written by Anon, that author of most of the best
> limericks.
>
> There once was a vicar of Salisbury
> Whose manners were all halisbury-scalisbury
> He went around Hampshire
> Without any pampshire
> Till the bishop told him to walisbury.

Or to scan better, "Till the bishop insisted he walisbury."

All I know about people from the town of Cambridge is they never smile,
being urban, squat, and full of guile.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Jerry Friedman]

Rarely, not never.

--
Jerry Friedman

[Peter Young]

City, please!

> being urban, squat, and full of guile.

All too true. And the academics are a bit odd too.

Peter, who grew up in Cambridge, and is MA MB BChir (Cantab)

--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Re)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

[Jerry Friedman]

On 6/26/15 9:08 AM, Peter Young wrote:
> On 26 Jun 2015 Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/24/15 10:13 PM, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 25/06/15 12:13, Katy Jennison wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Oxon" is also
>>>> the usual abbreviation for the county of Oxfordshire, and that's
>>>> probably the first meaning the average Brit-in-the-street will think of..
>>>
>>> I'm surprised that nobody has yet thrown in the following limerick, so
>>> I'll toss it in myself. Written by Anon, that author of most of the best
>>> limericks.
>>>
>>> There once was a vicar of Salisbury
>>> Whose manners were all halisbury-scalisbury
>>> He went around Hampshire
>>> Without any pampshire
>>> Till the bishop told him to walisbury.
>
>> Or to scan better, "Till the bishop insisted he walisbury."
>
>> All I know about people from the town of Cambridge is they never smile,
> City, please!

Sorry. I allowed myself to be misled by "town and gown".

>> being urban, squat, and full of guile.

...

--
Jerry Friedman

[Peter Moylan]

On 26/06/15 23:49, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
> All I know about people from the town of Cambridge is they never smile,
> being urban, squat, and full of guile.

Jacques Brel tells us that les Flamandes dansent sans sourire.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2015-06-27 08:11:54 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> On 26/06/15 23:49, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>>
>> All I know about people from the town of Cambridge is they never smile,
>> being urban, squat, and full of guile.
>
> Jacques Brel tells us that les Flamandes dansent sans sourire.

and a web page at
http://www.montagne-et-nature.fr/Montagne_et_Nature/en/Birds-of-Camargue.html
tells us that "On Pond Fangassier more than 10,000 Flemish come to
reproduce." Probably they're too busy reproducing to have time for
smiling.

--
athel