Pi Day - 14 March

[occam]

I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.

Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)

<https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-transcendental.html>

[Peter Moylan]

So someone has finally discovered a reason for putting the month first.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

[occam]

On 15/03/2023 11:44, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 15/03/23 21:36, occam wrote:
>
>> I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
>>
>> Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
>>
>> <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-transcendental.html>
>
> So someone has finally discovered a reason for putting the month first.
>

Don't Americans always do that? 03/14/2023? Or am I being whooshed?

[J. J. Lodder]

That's American pi day.
The European one is April 31, aka May first,

Jan

PS Some heretics (burn them all at the stake)
insist that tau-day should be celebrated instead,
on june 28.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

And today is the Ides of March. Beware.


--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

[Silvano]

Athel Cornish-Bowden hat am 15.03.2023 um 13:46 geschrieben:

> On 2023-03-15 10:36:28 +0000, occam said:
>
>> I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
>>
>> Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
>>
>> <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-transcendental.html>
>>
>
> And today is the Ides of March. Beware.

Only if your surname is Caesar.
Perhaps also if you're a "dictator perpetuo".

[occam]

On 15/03/2023 12:43, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> occam <oc...@nowhere.nix> wrote:
>
>> I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
>>
>> Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
>>
>> <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-tra
> nscendental.html>
>
> That's American pi day.
> The European one is April 31, aka May first,

I do not find any evidence of May 1st as the Day for Pi. However:

"Others opt to celebrate Pi Approximation Day on July 22, representing
the fraction 22/7, which is a way of working out an approximate value
for Pi."

[J. J. Lodder]

Athel Cornish-Bowden <athe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2023-03-15 10:36:28 +0000, occam said:
>
> > I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
> >
> > Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
> >
> > <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-t
ranscendental.html>
> >
>
> And today is the Ides of March. Beware.

Little need to.
Far less dictators are assasinated than there should have been,

Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

occam <oc...@nowhere.nix> wrote:

> On 15/03/2023 12:43, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > occam <oc...@nowhere.nix> wrote:
> >
> >> I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
> >>
> >> Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
> >>
> >> <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-
tra
> > nscendental.html>
> >
> > That's American pi day.
> > The European one is April 31, aka May first,
>
> I do not find any evidence of May 1st as the Day for Pi. However:

It was a joke, sometime, in pi-discussions.

> "Others opt to celebrate Pi Approximation Day on July 22, representing
> the fraction 22/7, which is a way of working out an approximate value
> for Pi."

I think November 10 (the 314th day of the year)
is more common for that one.
All equally silly of course,

Jan

[Hibou]

Le 15/03/2023 à 10:36, occam a écrit :
>
> I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day. [...]

Found out - from a circular?

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

I wish 'd posted that, but I never got a round tuit.


--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

[Ken Blake]

A circular divided by a radial?

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Beware of Free Radicals! oh radials, sorry, I'm tyred. Hope you aren't
cross with me for plying you with this comment.

[Sam Plusnet]

There is at least one would-be Tzar.

(Currently involved in what the Governor of Florida called:
"A territorial dispute")

--
Sam Plusnet

[lar3ryca]

This tread has certainly taken a turn or two.

--
All generalizations are bad.

[J. J. Lodder]

I'm not intent on hitting you with anything at all,
but it may be practical to know that the American radian
may be expressed in either feet at a thousand yards,
or in inches at 100 yards.

Europeans, and NATO-Americans do it in moa,
which is of course a small fraction of a big pi,

Jan

[Sam Plusnet]

You can't fool us. The moa is an extinct type of large flightless bird.

--
Sam Plusnet

[J. J. Lodder]

Making a radical of that is definitely irrational,

Jan

[J. J. Lodder]

Yes, that too, already discussed otherthread.
It was their one-egg policy that did them in,

Jan

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

It's sad that there aren't any around any moa.

IIRC some long-lived trees in Madagascar are up for extinction as well, as
their seed shells had evolved to survive passage through a giant bird's
gut, but consequently the uncorroded shell is too thick for the seed germ
to erm. germinate. Roc-hard they are.

[J. J. Lodder]

That was Dodos. It seems Turkeys can sustitute,
so no Rocs needed,

Jan

[Jerry Friedman]

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Kerr-Mudd, John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

...

> > It's sad that there aren't any around any moa.
> >
> > IIRC some long-lived trees in Madagascar are up for extinction as well, as
> > their seed shells had evolved to survive passage through a giant bird's
> > gut, but consequently the uncorroded shell is too thick for the seed germ
> > to erm. germinate. Roc-hard they are.

> That was Dodos. It seems Turkeys can sustitute,
> so no Rocs needed,

If it was Madagascar, it was the aepyornithidae or elephant birds, one
species of which was the heaviest bird known to have lived. The Dodo lived
on Mauritius, a thousand kilometers to the east.

--
Jerry Friedman

[J. J. Lodder]

Jerry Friedman <jerry.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, and that's where it is.
The tree is Sideroxylon grandiflorum, aka the Dodo tree.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideroxylon_grandiflorum>

The dodo connection has been disputed, and it may be false,

Jan

[Jerry Friedman]

Ah, all is now clear.

> The dodo connection has been disputed, and it may be false,

Can't these people get their stories straight?

--
Jerry Friedman

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Indeed, I don't think dodos could have swallowed the seed I was thinking
of. I still can't recall enough to give a definite reference, it was just
a passing (sic) pun about Roc-hard seeds.

https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascar-orphan-extinction

seems to be more general about 'orphan plants' that no longer have an
animal large enough to eat it's fruit.

[Kerr-Mudd, John]

Having now readahead, it seems it *was* the Dodo seed tale I was
recalling. Mea Culpa.

[lar3ryca]

They were probably French, and figured that one egg is un oeuf.

--
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone somewhere may be happy.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

On 2023-03-17 12:47:56 +0000, Jerry Friedman said:

> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Kerr-Mudd, John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:...
>
>>> It's sad that there aren't any around any moa.> >> > IIRC some
>>> long-lived trees in Madagascar are up for extinction as well, as> >
>>> their seed shells had evolved to survive passage through a giant
>>> bird's> > gut, but consequently the uncorroded shell is too thick for
>>> the seed germ> > to erm. germinate. Roc-hard they are.
>
>> That was Dodos. It seems Turkeys can sustitute,>

So can a mechanical grinder.

>> so no Rocs needed,
> If it was Madagascar, it was the aepyornithidae or elephant birds, one
> species of which was the heaviest bird known to have lived. The Dodo lived
> on Mauritius, a thousand kilometers to the east.


--

[Bebercito]

Le mercredi 15 mars 2023 à 12:43:26 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder a écrit :
> occam <oc...@nowhere.nix> wrote:
>
> > I just found out that yesterday (14th of March) was Pi day.
> >
> > Does it get more special if Pi Day falls on a Fri Day? (cf Friday 13th.)
> >
> > <https://www.i-programmer.info/news/85-humour-/16153-pi-day-irrational-and-tra
> nscendental.html>
> That's American pi day.
> The European one is April 31, aka May first,

Or even April first, as "April 31" sounds like an April fool.

[Bebercito]

I've heard there may still be one alive, but it's a lone moa.

[J. J. Lodder]

Jerry Friedman <jerry.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, it is science you know, of a kind.
And like nuts, some sciences are harder than others,

Jan

[Sam Plusnet]

Isn't the avocado in the same situation?
i.e. Land animals big enough to swallow the stone & let it pass through
the digestive tract, were made extinct some time ago.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/why-the-avocado-should-have-gone-the-way-of-the-dodo-4976527/

--
Sam Plusnet

[J. J. Lodder]

Kerr-Mudd, John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 05:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
> Jerry Friedman <jerry.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> > On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 5:14:04?AM UTC-6, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Kerr-Mudd, John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > > It's sad that there aren't any around any moa.
> > > >
> > > > IIRC some long-lived trees in Madagascar are up for extinction as
> > > > well, as their seed shells had evolved to survive passage through a
> > > > giant bird's gut, but consequently the uncorroded shell is too thick
> > > > for the seed germ to erm. germinate. Roc-hard they are.
> >
> > > That was Dodos. It seems Turkeys can sustitute,
> > > so no Rocs needed,
> >
> > If it was Madagascar, it was the aepyornithidae or elephant birds, one
> > species of which was the heaviest bird known to have lived. The Dodo lived
> > on Mauritius, a thousand kilometers to the east.
> >
> Indeed, I don't think dodos could have swallowed the seed I was thinking
> of. I still can't recall enough to give a definite reference, it was just
> a passing (sic) pun about Roc-hard seeds.
>
> https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascar-orphan-extinction
>
> seems to be more general about 'orphan plants' that no longer have an
> animal large enough to eat it's fruit.

You made me wonder for a moment which one ate all those coconuts,
but then I remembered that Roc,

Jan