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Peter Young

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May 2, 2015, 1:01:42 PM5/2/15
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Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
served as either a pint or a half pint.

On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.

Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
perhaps?

Peter.

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Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
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charles

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May 2, 2015, 1:11:44 PM5/2/15
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In article <64248ebd5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:
> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
> served as either a pint or a half pint.

> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.

> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
> perhaps?

I've never heard the term before. The only soft drink combo I know is "St
Clements": Orange & bitter lemon. Similar but - who was "Henry"?

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Guy Barry

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May 2, 2015, 1:21:49 PM5/2/15
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"Peter Young" wrote in message
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>
>Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
>and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
>served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
>On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
>folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
>at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
>Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
>perhaps?

I have only ever met one person who used the term. He was from
Gloucestershire.

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Guy Barry

Jack Campin

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May 2, 2015, 1:25:45 PM5/2/15
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> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
> perhaps?

I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
Scotland.

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Guy Barry

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>I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>Scotland.

That Scottish usage always struck me as slightly odd, since what's referred
to as "fresh orange" is never freshly squeezed orange juice but the bottled
stuff. Is it to distinguish it from orange squash?

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Guy Barry

musika

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May 2, 2015, 1:59:49 PM5/2/15
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On 02/05/2015 17:57, Peter Young wrote:
> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
> perhaps?
>
Never heard of it.
I might call that a Fuck's Bizz.
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Ray
UK

Jack Campin

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May 2, 2015, 2:02:38 PM5/2/15
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>> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>> Scotland.
> That Scottish usage always struck me as slightly odd, since what's referred
> to as "fresh orange" is never freshly squeezed orange juice but the bottled
> stuff. Is it to distinguish it from orange squash?

Yes. It strikes me as odd too, but then you get fussy after
visiting Turkey and having people routinely squeeze oranges
for you. I have yet to see a bar anywhere in the UK that had
a lever-arm orange-squeezing machine.

Richard Tobin

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May 2, 2015, 2:55:03 PM5/2/15
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In article <sd81x.429757$lV1.1...@fx05.am4>,
Guy Barry <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>>I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>>Scotland.

>That Scottish usage always struck me as slightly odd, since what's referred
>to as "fresh orange" is never freshly squeezed orange juice but the bottled
>stuff. Is it to distinguish it from orange squash?

"Juice" is commonly used here for all kinds of soft drinks, especially
by and when talking to children.

-- Richard

Jack Campin

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May 2, 2015, 3:32:54 PM5/2/15
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>>> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>>> Scotland.
> >T hat Scottish usage always struck me as slightly odd, since what's
>> referred to as "fresh orange" is never freshly squeezed orange juice
>> but the bottled stuff. Is it to distinguish it from orange squash?
> "Juice" is commonly used here for all kinds of soft drinks, especially
> by and when talking to children.

Except in Glasgow where the word is "ginger".

Jerry Friedman

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May 2, 2015, 3:46:33 PM5/2/15
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On 5/2/15 11:25 AM, Jack Campin wrote:
>> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
>> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
>> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>>
>> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
>> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
>> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>>
>> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
>> perhaps?
>
> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
> Scotland.

Apparently known, but not very well, as "orange juice and Sprite" or
"orange juice and 7up" in America.

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Guy Barry

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May 2, 2015, 3:53:09 PM5/2/15
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"Jerry Friedman" wrote in message news:mi39in$h2a$1...@news.albasani.net...
If for any reason I can't drink alcohol, but need a long drink in a pub, a
pint of orange juice and lemonade is my preferred option. Great after a
long walk as well.

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Guy Barry

Peter Young

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May 2, 2015, 4:15:57 PM5/2/15
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Ditto, but the term does seem to be exclusive to Gloucestershire. Who
Henry? No eye deer.

Peter Young

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May 2, 2015, 4:15:59 PM5/2/15
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<grin>

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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May 2, 2015, 5:12:13 PM5/2/15
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On Sat, 02 May 2015 17:57:01 +0100, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
wrote:

>Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
>and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
>served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
>On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
>folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
>at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
>Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
>perhaps?
>
Letting my mind wander -

Might it be jocular rhyming slang from "Martini-Henry", a type of gun.
with the omitted Martini indicating a drink?

Perhaps there was a pub in Gloucestershire which had a regular named
Henry who always ordered a half-and-half orange juice and lemonage
drink. In my experience of regulars in pubs it wouldn't take long before
the bar tenders would ask Henry "Your usual, Henry?". It wouldn't take
much longer for other regulars to ask for "The same as Henry", soon
shortened to just "Henry". Visitors to the pub might pick up the word
and take it to other pubs.

Other speculations are available.


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Katy Jennison

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May 2, 2015, 5:17:09 PM5/2/15
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+1.

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Mike L

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May 2, 2015, 5:54:17 PM5/2/15
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On Sat, 02 May 2015 21:15:18 +0100, Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 2 May 2015 musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote:
>
>> On 02/05/2015 17:57, Peter Young wrote:
>>> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
>>> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
>>> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>>>
>>> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
>>> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
>>> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>>>
>>> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
>>> perhaps?
>>>
>> Never heard of it.
>> I might call that a Fuck's Bizz.
>
><grin>
>
Lemon and orange in equal proportions was (is?) known as "fifty-fifty"
in Aus.

[OT: Ray, I'm sorry I got distracted ages ago from emailing you with a
singing question. Might I have the recommended address again, please?
I'm "mikeunderscorelyleunderscoreukatyahoodotcodotuk".]

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musika

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May 2, 2015, 6:47:05 PM5/2/15
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On 02/05/2015 22:54, Mike L wrote:
> [OT: Ray, I'm sorry I got distracted ages ago from emailing you with a
> singing question. Might I have the recommended address again, please?
> I'm "mikeunderscorelyleunderscoreukatyahoodotcodotuk".]
>
On its way.

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Jerry Friedman

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May 2, 2015, 7:07:19 PM5/2/15
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For instance, that it's rhyming slang involving a word that rhymes with
"orange"--or one that rhymes with "Henry".

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Jerry Friedman

Robert Bannister

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May 2, 2015, 8:25:26 PM5/2/15
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Lemon, lime and bitters for me.

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1972-now W Australia

Tony Cooper

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May 2, 2015, 9:17:35 PM5/2/15
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There are several possible explanations of the name of the "Oh Henry!"
candy bar. One is that a boy named Henry used to flirt with the girls
in the Williamson factory. Some say it's named after O. Henry, the
writer.

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Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

Peter T. Daniels

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May 2, 2015, 10:10:47 PM5/2/15
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On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:54:17 PM UTC-4, Mike L wrote:

> Lemon and orange in equal proportions was (is?) known as "fifty-fifty"
> in Aus.

Snapple now offers bottles of 50-50, which are iced tea and lemonade (not
the fizzy kind; actual lemonade).

R H Draney

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May 2, 2015, 11:59:34 PM5/2/15
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"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote in
news:2e268293-37a7-4ff6...@googlegroups.com:
Known elsewhere as an "Arnold Palmer"....r

Dr Nick

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May 3, 2015, 2:17:23 AM5/3/15
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Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> writes:

> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
> perhaps?

As a non-Gloucestershire person who has lived in Glos for half my life,
I'd agree with all that: it's known throughout the county but nowhere
else (I doubt the boundaries follow the country boundary exactly mind).

Even Wadworth's introducing "Henry's IPA" hasn't caused the confusion
I'd have expected.

Dr Nick

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May 3, 2015, 2:27:13 AM5/3/15
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Wikipedia notes the Henry under
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Clement%27s_%28cocktail%29> (but I
agree with those elsethread who've said that a Saint Clements is OJ and
bitter lemon) but with no explanation. It adds Berks to the range.
No-one else seems to.

Here's a documented example of it being on sale - I've never seen it
before (though heard, and said, it often enough):
<http://www.theprioryinn.co.uk/dinning/Non-alcoholicdrinkslist.asp>
Note the location - right in the heart of Gloucestershire.

And it's in this rather fun article.
<http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/21-things-learn-Cheltenham/story-26303013-detail/story.html>

I can find several other people asking the questions but no even
half-way plausible answers (indeed, nothing approaching this thread for
usefulness).

Guy Barry

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May 3, 2015, 2:49:33 AM5/3/15
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"Peter Duncanson [BrE]" wrote in message
news:6reakapdphoc720ch...@4ax.com...

>Perhaps there was a pub in Gloucestershire which had a regular named
>Henry who always ordered a half-and-half orange juice and lemonage
>drink. In my experience of regulars in pubs it wouldn't take long before
>the bar tenders would ask Henry "Your usual, Henry?". It wouldn't take
>much longer for other regulars to ask for "The same as Henry", soon
>shortened to just "Henry". Visitors to the pub might pick up the word
>and take it to other pubs.

"I believe that this drink originated in the Corinium Court
hotel,Cirencester ,glos,--don't know when but maybe 60 s ,after a regular
called Henry always asked for this after a night on the booze!"

- "CatherineIsSexy" on
http://www.answers.com/Q/Why_is_an_orange_juice_lemonade_drink_called_a_Henry

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Guy Barry

Guy Barry

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May 3, 2015, 2:56:08 AM5/3/15
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"Mike L" wrote in message
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>Lemon and orange in equal proportions was (is?) known as "fifty-fifty"
>in Aus.

Wikipedia says it's known as a "Saint Clement's" here, although I've never
heard the term:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Clement%27s_%28cocktail%29

I should clarify that the drink I'm talking about normally consists of
bottled orange juice and fizzy lemonade (which isn't usually lemon-flavoured
in this country). Usually the barkeeper will empty a bottle of orange juice
into a pint glass and fill it up with lemonade from the nozzle.

>[OT: Ray, I'm sorry I got distracted ages ago from emailing you with a
>singing question. Might I have the recommended address again, please?
>I'm "mikeunderscorelyleunderscoreukatyahoodotcodotuk".]

I glanced at that and wondered why you had Katy's name in your email
address.

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Guy Barry

charles

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May 3, 2015, 3:27:59 AM5/3/15
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In article <87ioca6...@temporary-address.org.uk>,
"Oranges and Lemons" say the bells of St Clements ....

Guy Barry

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"charles" wrote in message
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The article explains "St Clements", but not "Henry". I'm meeting a friend
from Gloucestershire shortly so perhaps he can shed some light on the
matter.

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Guy Barry

Peter Young

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May 3, 2015, 3:58:56 AM5/3/15
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Probably the best explanation so far; thanks, Guy.

Peter Young

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May 3, 2015, 3:58:58 AM5/3/15
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Thanks for turning that up.

> Here's a documented example of it being on sale - I've never seen it
> before (though heard, and said, it often enough):
> <http://www.theprioryinn.co.uk/dinning/Non-alcoholicdrinkslist.asp>
> Note the location - right in the heart of Gloucestershire.

Interesting, and I must remember that pub for one of our walking
groups sometime

> And it's in this rather fun article.
> <http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/21-things-learn-Cheltenham/story
> -26303013-detail/story.html>

I like that article; duly bookmarked.

> I can find several other people asking the questions but no even
> half-way plausible answers (indeed, nothing approaching this thread for
> usefulness).

It#s certainly been an interesting thread, and thanks for all the
answers.

Peter T. Daniels

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Doesn't that involve a great deal of alcohol? (Like a Long Island Iced Tea.)
Alcohol doesn't seem to figure in either the English or the American 50-50.

Katy Jennison

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For a moment, so did I.

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Katy Jennison

Tony Cooper

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The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
Palmer name.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/11/28/how-arnold-palmer-invented-the-arnold-palmer/1732613/

http://wdy.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/09/54eac52c02144_-_er-arnold-palmer-drink-food-and-drinks-named-after-people-1.jpg

The mixture of lemonade and iced tea, with vodka, is called a "John
Daly". Daly, another golfer, is not known as being abstemious.

Peter T. Daniels

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On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 11:25:47 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 3 May 2015 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 11:59:34 PM UTC-4, R H Draney wrote:
> >> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote in
> >> news:2e268293-37a7-4ff6...@googlegroups.com:
> >> > On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:54:17 PM UTC-4, Mike L wrote:

> >> >> Lemon and orange in equal proportions was (is?) known as
> >> >> "fifty-fifty" in Aus.
> >> > Snapple now offers bottles of 50-50, which are iced tea and lemonade
> >> > (not the fizzy kind; actual lemonade).
> >> Known elsewhere as an "Arnold Palmer"....r
> >Doesn't that involve a great deal of alcohol? (Like a Long Island Iced Tea.)
> >Alcohol doesn't seem to figure in either the English or the American 50-50.
>
> The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
> by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
> Palmer name.

Why would you say that? Has someone suggested that Snapple uses the "Palmer"
name?

Moreover, it seems unlikely that R H was claiming "Arnold Palmer" is a
trademark of the Arizona canned tea company, but rather that it's a familiar
term for the beverage.

> http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/11/28/how-arnold-palmer-invented-the-arnold-palmer/1732613/
>
> http://wdy.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/09/54eac52c02144_-_er-arnold-palmer-drink-food-and-drinks-named-after-people-1.jpg
>
> The mixture of lemonade and iced tea, with vodka, is called a "John
> Daly". Daly, another golfer, is not known as being abstemious.

John Daly is a long-ago CBS newsman and the long-time host of *What's My Line?*.

Mike L

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On Sat, 02 May 2015 23:47:01 +0100, musika <mUs...@NOSPAMexcite.com>
wrote:
Thanks.

Mike L

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A fella can't have too much Katy in his life.

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Jerry Friedman

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May 3, 2015, 7:35:29 PM5/3/15
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On 5/3/15 9:25 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 3 May 2015 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 11:59:34 PM UTC-4, R H Draney wrote:
>>> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote in
>>> news:2e268293-37a7-4ff6...@googlegroups.com:
>>>> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 5:54:17 PM UTC-4, Mike L wrote:
>>
>>>>> Lemon and orange in equal proportions was (is?) known as
>>>>> "fifty-fifty" in Aus.
>>>> Snapple now offers bottles of 50-50, which are iced tea and lemonade
>>>> (not the fizzy kind; actual lemonade).
>>>
>>> Known elsewhere as an "Arnold Palmer"....r
>>
>> Doesn't that involve a great deal of alcohol? (Like a Long Island Iced Tea.)
>> Alcohol doesn't seem to figure in either the English or the American 50-50.
>
> The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
> by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
> Palmer name.

I didn't know it was a trade name. I thought it was just the name for
half iced tea half lemonade. How quickly we commit genericide. (That's
the "we" that may not include the person addressed.)

> http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/11/28/how-arnold-palmer-invented-the-arnold-palmer/1732613/
>
> http://wdy.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/09/54eac52c02144_-_er-arnold-palmer-drink-food-and-drinks-named-after-people-1.jpg

Just lemonade, possibly with other fruit juice, or limeade for me, please.

--
Jerry Friedman

Tony Cooper

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AriZona donates the proceeds from this product to the Arnold Palmer
Hospital for Children here in Orlando.

The Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children is a major children's
hospital. There is also the Winnie Palmer Hospital for Women & Babies
that's part of the medical center. Winnie was Arnold's first wife.
She died in 1999.

Both hospitals are part of the Orlando Regional Medical Center complex
of hospitals.

Arnold Palmer lives in this area and owns one of the premier US golf
courses - Bay Hill - which has been the site of many major golf
tournaments.

This is a shot of mine of the APCH. The dome is over the lobby of the
hospital.

http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Miscellanea/i-9wvdJWK/0/X2/2010-01-17-2-X2.jpg

Katy Jennison

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On 04/05/2015 00:35, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On 5/3/15 9:25 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 May 2015 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 11:59:34 PM UTC-4, R H Draney wrote:

>> The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
>> by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
>> Palmer name.
>
> I didn't know it was a trade name. I thought it was just the name for
> half iced tea half lemonade. How quickly we commit genericide. (That's
> the "we" that may not include the person addressed.)

I don't think it is exclusively a trade name. I fist came across it
when my d-i-l's mother asked for one in a restaurant (in Illinois), and
they simply made it up for her, no questions asked.

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Katy Jennison

Peter T. Daniels

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May 3, 2015, 11:34:00 PM5/3/15
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The only "evidence" for its being a trademark is Tony Cooper's fantasy that
only Arizona sells it. Arizona also has "Ginseng Tea." Does that make it their
trademark as well?

Tony Cooper

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May 4, 2015, 12:06:42 AM5/4/15
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It's a trade name when on a bottle of AriZona's beverage, but just a
description of what you want when you order it as a beverage or make
it yourself.

Had Shirley Temple made arrangements with Canada Dry to sell a
beverage called "Shirley Temple" it would be much the same.

They could have added something to darken the grenadine and offered a
"Shirley Temple Black", too.

Tony Cooper

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On Sun, 3 May 2015 20:33:58 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:57:06 PM UTC-4, Katy Jennison wrote:
>> On 04/05/2015 00:35, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> > On 5/3/15 9:25 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 3 May 2015 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 11:59:34 PM UTC-4, R H Draney wrote:
>>
>> >> The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
>> >> by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
>> >> Palmer name.
>> >
>> > I didn't know it was a trade name. I thought it was just the name for
>> > half iced tea half lemonade. How quickly we commit genericide. (That's
>> > the "we" that may not include the person addressed.)
>>
>> I don't think it is exclusively a trade name. I fist came across it
>> when my d-i-l's mother asked for one in a restaurant (in Illinois), and
>> they simply made it up for her, no questions asked.
>
>The only "evidence" for its being a trademark is Tony Cooper's fantasy that
>only Arizona sells it. Arizona also has "Ginseng Tea." Does that make it their
>trademark as well?

You have come up with some bizarre inanities here, but you seem to
want to continually top yourself in this department.

A company can use the name of a plant in a name of product without the
permission of the plant. They cannot use the name of a living person
without that person's approval.

Arnold Palmer has licensed Arizona Beverage USA to use his name, a
replica of his signature, his logo umbrella, and his face on the
AriZona product. As shown here:
http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_ec_794804601

Look closely, and you will see the ® (r within a circle) next to this.
That is the symbol for a registered trademark.

(Even if Palmer dies, the trademark remains)

Snapple sells a product called "Half 'n Half" that is allegedly half
lemonade and half iced tea. They do not call it "Arnold Palmer", but
you may drink it and say "Yum! That's a good Arnold Palmer". That is
you misnaming the drink.

This is a good chance for you to retract and apologize for your error
in saying that it is my fantasy that only Arizona Beverage USA sells a
beverage with the name "Arnold Palmer". You need to demonstrate that
it possible for you to admit error. (Not that anyone here needs
convincing that you make errors)

The Arizona Beverage Company USA spells the name "AriZona" on labels.
That is their registered trademark.
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Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:h5sdkat91frftp7s4...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 3 May 2015 20:33:58 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>The only "evidence" for its being a trademark is Tony Cooper's fantasy
>>that only Arizona sells it. Arizona also has "Ginseng Tea." Does that
>>make it their trademark as well?

They used to sell one called "Nirvana" with mango and melon flavors...good
stuff, so of course they stopped making it....

> The Arizona Beverage Company USA spells the name "AriZona" on labels.
> That is their registered trademark.

Probably because they're in Brooklyn....r

Peter T. Daniels

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May 4, 2015, 7:29:55 AM5/4/15
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 12:06:42 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 04 May 2015 01:57:02 +0100, Katy Jennison
> <ka...@spamtrap.kjennison.com> wrote:
> >On 04/05/2015 00:35, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> >> On 5/3/15 9:25 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 3 May 2015 04:52:36 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Saturday, May 2, 2015 at 11:59:34 PM UTC-4, R H Draney wrote:

> >>> The "Arnold Palmer" beverage is non-alcoholic and is sold in bottles
> >>> by the AriZona Beverage Company. Snapple's version does not use the
> >>> Palmer name.
> >> I didn't know it was a trade name. I thought it was just the name for
> >> half iced tea half lemonade. How quickly we commit genericide. (That's
> >> the "we" that may not include the person addressed.)
> >I don't think it is exclusively a trade name. I fist came across it
> >when my d-i-l's mother asked for one in a restaurant (in Illinois), and
> >they simply made it up for her, no questions asked.
>
> It's a trade name when on a bottle of AriZona's beverage, but just a
> description of what you want when you order it as a beverage or make
> it yourself.

Where did _you_ study copyright law? Or, what do you think "trade name"
means? (The relevant legal term is "trademark.")

> Had Shirley Temple made arrangements with Canada Dry to sell a
> beverage called "Shirley Temple" it would be much the same.

Did Rupert Gee ask permission of Paul Shafer to sell a Paul Shafer sandwich?

The other day, Paul said to Rupert, "You could have at least made it something I would eat!"

Peter T. Daniels

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Any bartender in the US will happily sell you an Arnold Palmer.
(Which is why I am surprised that alcohol is not involved.)

That you think it is otherwise is inexplicable.

Guy Barry

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"Peter Young" wrote in message
news:64248ebd5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk...
>
>Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
>and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
>served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
>On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
>folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
>at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
>Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
>perhaps?

I spoke to my friend from Cirencester today, and he tells me that it
probably originated at the Black Horse in Castle Street, where (according to
folklore) a student called Henry from the Royal Agricultural College (now
Royal Agricultural University) only drank orange juice and lemonade. Or it
might have been a generic term referring to the upper-class "Hooray Henry"
types who formed the bulk of the college's students.

--
Guy Barry

Peter Young

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May 4, 2015, 6:07:20 PM5/4/15
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Thanks, Guy, and another theory that could well be true.

Janet

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May 5, 2015, 10:43:40 AM5/5/15
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In article <64248ebd5...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
pny...@ormail.co.uk says...
>
> Throughout Gloucestershire "A Henry" is universally understood in bars
> and pubs to mean a drink which is half orange juice and half lemonade,
> served as either a pint or a half pint.
>
> On a recent trip to South Devon a walking group of Gloucestershire
> folk discovered that this term was unknown there, and we were told by
> at least one person that it's an exclusively Gloucestershire usage.
>
> Can any non-Gloucestershire Rightpondians confirm or deny this,
> perhaps?

I think it's probably right.

The drink is well known (it's what my husband orders in pubs when
he's driving) but neither of us has heard that name. I lived years in
the two adjacent counties and his parents livedin Gloucester.

Janet.

Snidely

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May 27, 2015, 3:26:45 AM5/27/15
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On Saturday, Guy Barry pointed out that ...
> "Jerry Friedman" wrote in message news:mi39in$h2a$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>
>>On 5/2/15 11:25 AM, Jack Campin wrote:
>
>>> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>>> Scotland.
>>
>>Apparently known, but not very well, as "orange juice and Sprite" or "orange
>> juice and 7up" in America.
>
> If for any reason I can't drink alcohol, but need a long drink in a pub, a
> pint of orange juice and lemonade is my preferred option. Great after a long
> walk as well.

But is your lemonade lemonade, or is it just lemon-flavored soda water?

(Sprite and 7-Up are the best known varieties in the US)

Lemonade here is properly made with the lever-arm squeezing "machines"
Jack referred to, sugar, and ice-cold water. No fizz, plenty of citric
acid. Usually a little pulp to catch the light.

/dps

--
"This is all very fine, but let us not be carried away be excitement,
but ask calmly, how does this person feel about in in his cooler
moments next day, with six or seven thousand feet of snow and stuff on
top of him?"
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain.

Guy Barry

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"Snidely" wrote in message news:mn.d81a7df59077922d.127094@snitoo...
>
>On Saturday, Guy Barry pointed out that ...

>> If for any reason I can't drink alcohol, but need a long drink in a pub,
>> a pint of orange juice and lemonade is my preferred option. Great after
>> a long walk as well.
>
>But is your lemonade lemonade, or is it just lemon-flavored soda water?

It's the fizzy stuff, and it doesn't taste of lemons.

--
Guy Barry

charles

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May 27, 2015, 5:10:20 AM5/27/15
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In article <L1f9x.647219$Zf4.3...@fx22.am4>, Guy Barry
unless it's the grey stuff, known as "cloudy" - which has a sort of lemony
taste

--
From KT24 in Surrey

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

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GordonD

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May 27, 2015, 1:04:47 PM5/27/15
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On 27/05/2015 16:35, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mn.d81a7df59077922d.127094@snitoo>
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, Guy Barry pointed out that ...
>>> "Jerry Friedman" wrote in message news:mi39in$h2a$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/2/15 11:25 AM, Jack Campin wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>>>>> Scotland.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently known, but not very well, as "orange juice and Sprite" or "orange
>>>> juice and 7up" in America.
>>>
>>> If for any reason I can't drink alcohol, but need a long drink in a pub, a
>>> pint of orange juice and lemonade is my preferred option. Great after a long
>>> walk as well.
>
>> But is your lemonade lemonade, or is it just lemon-flavored soda water?
>
>> (Sprite and 7-Up are the best known varieties in the US)
>
> Neither Sprite nor 7-Up nor any similar carbonated drink would be called
> lemonade.
>

In the west of Scotland any carbonated drink is called "ginger". In the
east, it's called "juice".
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

Jerry Friedman

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May 27, 2015, 1:27:33 PM5/27/15
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On 5/27/15 9:35 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <mn.d81a7df59077922d.127094@snitoo>
> Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, Guy Barry pointed out that ...
>>> "Jerry Friedman" wrote in message news:mi39in$h2a$1...@news.albasani.net...
>>>>
>>>> On 5/2/15 11:25 AM, Jack Campin wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I've never heard the word before. "Fresh orange and lemonade" in
>>>>> Scotland.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently known, but not very well, as "orange juice and Sprite" or "orange
>>>> juice and 7up" in America.
>>>
>>> If for any reason I can't drink alcohol, but need a long drink in a pub, a
>>> pint of orange juice and lemonade is my preferred option. Great after a long
>>> walk as well.
>
>> But is your lemonade lemonade, or is it just lemon-flavored soda water?
>
>> (Sprite and 7-Up are the best known varieties in the US)
>
> Neither Sprite nor 7-Up nor any similar carbonated drink would be called
> lemonade.

In America.

--
Jerry Friedman

snide...@gmail.com

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May 27, 2015, 7:47:36 PM5/27/15
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 at 10:27:33 AM UTC-7, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On 5/27/15 9:35 AM, Lewis wrote:
> > Snidely <snide...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> But is your lemonade lemonade, or is it just lemon-flavored soda water?
> >
> >> (Sprite and 7-Up are the best known varieties in the US)
> >
> > Neither Sprite nor 7-Up nor any similar carbonated drink would be called
> > lemonade.
>
> In America.

In the spring.

(Yes, I could have been clearer in my declaration. Is Lewis caught up now?)

/dps

finann...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2020, 2:10:31 PM4/13/20
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I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.

I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late to catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.

Peter Young

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Apr 13, 2020, 2:37:34 PM4/13/20
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It is indeed widely known in pubs and cafes in Gloucestershire, and is my
usual drink in a pub lunch after a walking group walk. Very refreshing and
rehydrating. Known also in some of South Worcestershire, but nowhere else.

There are several theories about the origin of the name, none of them
convincing.

Peter.

--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)

Spains Harden

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Apr 13, 2020, 3:21:43 PM4/13/20
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On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 7:37:34 PM UTC+1, Peter Young wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2020 finann...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
> > ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.
>
> > I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late to
> > catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.
>
> It is indeed widely known in pubs and cafes in Gloucestershire, and is my
> usual drink in a pub lunch after a walking group walk. Very refreshing and
> rehydrating. Known also in some of South Worcestershire, but nowhere else.
>
> There are several theories about the origin of the name, none of them
> convincing.

I'm guessing that brandy and babycham is not much drunk in Gloucestershire
either? The other 70s drinks? Campari, Martini and soda, rum and black,
vodka and lime.

I got told off on a date because the barman tried to fob her off with a
Noilly Prat which (he said) is exactly the same as Martini.

Horace LaBadie

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Apr 13, 2020, 5:56:58 PM4/13/20
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In article <7798ae605...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
Peter Young <pny...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 13 Apr 2020 finann...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
> > ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.
>
> > I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late to
> > catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.
>
> It is indeed widely known in pubs and cafes in Gloucestershire, and is my
> usual drink in a pub lunch after a walking group walk. Very refreshing and
> rehydrating. Known also in some of South Worcestershire, but nowhere else.
>
> There are several theories about the origin of the name, none of them
> convincing.
>
> Peter.

But the Arnold Palmer is firmly attested.

Dingbat

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On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
> ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.

A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry

Henry VIII is a yam

Henry the 8th a yam a yam

is how the rhyme sounds in some people's pronunciation.

> I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late
> to catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.

Talking about Gloucestershire, no drink was called a Henry at the Round
Table since England didn't have any Henries till the Normans.

A Henry in physics, a unit of inductance, is named after an American;
I've idly wondered whether it's a Henri in French.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)

O'Henry is surprisingly known to some Indians who speak little English.
Here'a an exposition on Jimmy Valentine in Hindi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxV8Xk5mWH0

Spains Harden

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Apr 14, 2020, 2:42:20 AM4/14/20
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On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:26:22 AM UTC+1, Dingbat wrote:
> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
> > ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.
>
> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>
> Henry VIII is a yam
>
> Henry the 8th a yam a yam

In case you think Dingbat has gone mad, we need to refresh ourselves
with Herman's Hermits of 1965.

"She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam"

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cly_2pGTNw>

RH Draney

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Apr 14, 2020, 3:09:18 AM4/14/20
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There's a restaurant called "The Henry" not far from here...I've been
there a few times to pick up delivery orders...one of those pretentious
Fox Restaurant Concepts places...their website is here for anyone with
an interest:

https://www.thehenryrestaurant.com/

Takeout only now, of course...and no clue as to the source of the name....r

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Apr 14, 2020, 4:35:19 AM4/14/20
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On 2020-04-14 05:26:19 +0000, Dingbat said:

> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
>> ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.
>
> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>
> Henry VIII is a yam
>
> Henry the 8th a yam a yam
>
> is how the rhyme sounds in some people's pronunciation.
>
>> I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late
>> to catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.
>
> Talking about Gloucestershire, no drink was called a Henry at the Round
> Table since England didn't have any Henries till the Normans.
>
> A Henry

henry

> in physics, a unit of inductance, is named after an American;
> I've idly wondered whether it's a Henri in French.
> wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)

I see that like PTD you haven't yet learned how to do a search:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit%C3%A9): it's "henry", as one
would expect. You haven't even managed to correctly quote the site you
refer to.
>
> O'Henry is surprisingly known to some Indians who speak little English.
> Here'a an exposition on Jimmy Valentine in Hindi:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxV8Xk5mWH0


--
athel

phil

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Apr 14, 2020, 4:40:19 AM4/14/20
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Harry Champion, surely? Or at least, Joe Brown and the Bruvvers.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Apr 14, 2020, 5:04:05 AM4/14/20
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Mrs Thatcher: "Everyone needs a Willy."

Michael Gove: "I am very proud of our Willy: William Hague."


--
athel

Kerr-Mudd,John

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Apr 14, 2020, 6:37:42 AM4/14/20
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:26:19 GMT, Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+
>> years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from
>> Gloucester.
>
> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>
> Henry VIII is a yam
>
> Henry the 8th a yam a yam
>
and King Edward (but which? wiki: 7th) is immortalised in a potato.

--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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On 2020-04-14 10:37:39 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John said:

> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:26:19 GMT, Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+
>>> years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from
>>> Gloucester.
>>
>> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>>
>> Henry VIII is a yam
>>
>> Henry the 8th a yam a yam

Henery, innit?
>>
> and King Edward (but which? wiki: 7th) is immortalised in a potato.


--
athel

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 14, 2020, 11:29:03 AM4/14/20
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On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 4:35:19 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2020-04-14 05:26:19 +0000, Dingbat said:
> > On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+ years,
> >> ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from Gloucester.
> > A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
> > Henry VIII is a yam
> > Henry the 8th a yam a yam

Enery

> > is how the rhyme sounds in some people's pronunciation.
> >> I have always assumed it was a widespread term that I was just late
> >> to catch-on to, didn't realise it was a Gloucestershire only term.
> > Talking about Gloucestershire, no drink was called a Henry at the Round
> > Table since England didn't have any Henries till the Normans.
> > A Henry
>
> henry
>
> > in physics, a unit of inductance, is named after an American;
> > I've idly wondered whether it's a Henri in French.
> > wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)
>
> I see that like PTD you haven't yet learned how to do a search:
> https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit%C3%A9): it's "henry", as one
> would expect. You haven't even managed to correctly quote the site you
> refer to.

Do you really not understand the expression "I wonder"?

Maybe it's an Asperger's-like inability to take anything non-literally?

> > O'Henry is surprisingly known to some Indians who speak little English.
> > Here'a an exposition on Jimmy Valentine in Hindi:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxV8Xk5mWH0

Sidney Porter's pen name was O. Henry, not "O'Henry."

RH Draney

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Apr 14, 2020, 11:29:52 AM4/14/20
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On 4/14/2020 7:37 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2020-04-14 10:37:39 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John said:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:26:19 GMT, Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+
>>>> years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from
>>>> Gloucester.
>>>
>>> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>>>
>>> Henry VIII is a yam
>>>
>>> Henry the 8th a yam a yam
>
> Henery, innit?

Get thee to a hennery?...r

Peter T. Daniels

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Apr 14, 2020, 11:36:43 AM4/14/20
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no

> Get thee to a hennery?...r

an 'ennery

Ken Blake

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Apr 14, 2020, 11:47:00 AM4/14/20
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On 4/14/2020 7:37 AM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2020-04-14 10:37:39 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John said:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 05:26:19 GMT, Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 11:40:31 PM UTC+5:30, finann...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last 20+
>>>> years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and he was from
>>>> Gloucester.
>>>
>>> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry
>>>
>>> Henry VIII is a yam
>>>
>>> Henry the 8th a yam a yam
>
> Henery, innit?


Henry Crun?


--
Ken

Mark Brader

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Apr 14, 2020, 1:44:44 PM4/14/20
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Ranjit Mathews:
> A Henry in physics, a unit of inductance, is named after an American;

No, that's a henry.

> I've idly wondered whether it's a Henri in French.
> wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)

You mean en.wikipedia.org. And from that page you will find a link to
fr.wikipedia.org/Henry_(unité), which tells you that it's also henry in
French, if Wikipedia is correct.
--
Mark Brader "I always hoped that when someone quoted me
Toronto it would be because I said something profound."
m...@vex.net -- Chris Volpe

Peter Young

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"My name's Bannister"
"Didn't I see you on the stairs?"

Snidely

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Mark Brader asserted that:
> Ranjit Mathews:
>> A Henry in physics, a unit of inductance, is named after an American;
>
> No, that's a henry.
>
>> I've idly wondered whether it's a Henri in French.
>> wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_(unit)
>
> You mean en.wikipedia.org. And from that page you will find a link to
> fr.wikipedia.org/Henry_(unité), which tells you that it's also henry in
> French, if Wikipedia is correct.

You fixed the "citation needed" in the previous post.

CDB

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Apr 15, 2020, 8:21:01 AM4/15/20
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On 4/14/2020 11:36 AM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> RH Draney wrote:
>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> Kerr-Mudd,John said:
>>>> Dingbat <ranjit_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> finann...@gmail.com wrote:

>>>>>> I've called fresh orange and lemonde a "Henry" for the last
>>>>>> 20+ years, ever since a friend of mine called it that, and
>>>>>> he was from Gloucester.
>>>>> A Martini Henry, however, is a rifle, not a cocktail.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini–Henry Henry VIII is a
>>>>> yam Henry the 8th a yam a yam
>>> Henery, innit?

> no

>> Get thee to a hennery?...r

> an 'ennery

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6I-pmV0RA
IMHO, it didn't merit being at the top of the Pops.
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