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Tony Cooper

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:03:01 PM8/17/22
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The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.

Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
decision that was made without properly thinking about it:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html

I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
title.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

Tony Cooper

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:04:42 PM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>
>Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>
>I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>title.

Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
hit the caps lock key.

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:08:56 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 7:02 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>
> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:

If we make enough laws pretending there is no difference between
the sexes, this is the kind of ridiculous result we can expect.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:12:07 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 7:04 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>
>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>
>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>> title.
>
> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
> hit the caps lock key.

All very well, but was the second 'a' in 'inadvertently' used
ininadadvertvertententlyly?

Mark Brader

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:29:52 PM8/17/22
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Tony Cooper:
> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>
> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html

No, it couldn't. The sentence is:

| A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
| giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
| project management from both the private and public sectors."

In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | The real trouble with this world of ours is... that
m...@vex.net | it is nearly reasonable, but not quite. --Chesterton

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Tony Cooper

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:46:54 PM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:28:29 +0000, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Tony Cooper:
>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>
>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>
>No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
>
>| A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
>| giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
>| project management from both the private and public sectors."
>
>In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.

I think you are ignoring the obvious lack of one particular
qualification that people most involved might look for.

This could lead to a discussion of the word "mansplaining".

Tony Cooper

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Aug 17, 2022, 2:57:10 PM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 19:12:02 +0100, Richard Heathfield
<r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

>On 17/08/2022 7:04 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>
>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>> title.
>>
>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>> hit the caps lock key.
>
>All very well, but was the second 'a' in 'inadvertently' used
>ininadadvertvertententlyly?

My excuse is that I'm still dealing with a vision problem. My close
vision is affected by my cataract removal procedure.

I'm wearing glasses with the lens removed from the right-eye side, but
on the left-eye side I have a bifocal lens.

My distance vision is sharp, but eye-to-monitor distance vision is
blurry. I have trouble seeing what I've typed.

After the second procedure, I should be able to be fitted with glasses
to read at the eye-to-monitor distance. "Reading glasses".

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 17, 2022, 3:14:39 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 7:57 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 19:12:02 +0100, Richard Heathfield
> <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 17/08/2022 7:04 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>>
>>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>>> title.
>>>
>>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>>> hit the caps lock key.
>>
>> All very well, but was the second 'a' in 'inadvertently' used
>> ininadadvertvertententlyly?
>
> My excuse is that I'm still dealing with a vision problem.

Sir, over the last eighteen months or so my accuracy rate has
plummeted, and I frequently notice O! too late yet another
blasted typo that I have sent stumbling out into an uncaring
world. When I notice these things in other people's articles, I
am not criticising so much as saying "welcome to the club, for
there, despite the grace of God, went I about half an hour ago".

> My distance vision is sharp, but eye-to-monitor distance vision is
> blurry. I have trouble seeing what I've typed.

Likewise - even though I have a special pair of specs just for
that application.

> After the second procedure, I should be able to be fitted with glasses
> to read at the eye-to-monitor distance. "Reading glasses".

My monitor specs are tuned in to 1m, a distance my optician
frowned at until I explained that I'd measured it with a laser,
and it's actually 996mm if she finds that figure more
satisfactory. Why so far? External keyboard.

Ken Blake

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Aug 17, 2022, 3:16:12 PM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
><tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>
>>Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>
>>https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>
>>I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>title.
>
>Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>hit the caps lock key.


It's right next to the A.

I used to do that all the time. I finally realized that I never wanted
Caps Lock to be on, so I permanently disabled the key.

Mark Brader

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Aug 17, 2022, 5:15:45 PM8/17/22
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Tony Cooper:
>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html

Mark Brader:
>> No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
>>
>>| A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
>>| giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
>>| project management from both the private and public sectors."
>>
>> In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.

Tony Cooper:
> I think you are ignoring the obvious lack of one particular
> qualification that people most involved might look for.

We are discussing what "no-brainer" meant in that sentence, not what
other people thought about the topic.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "It's been proven. Places stay clean until somebody
m...@vex.net | drops the first piece of litter." -- TTC poster

Sam Plusnet

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Aug 17, 2022, 6:01:12 PM8/17/22
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That was probably everyone's reaction - it certainly was mine.

My second thought was that the people doing the recruiting and selection
_must_ have known that this would get a heated reaction.

So unless we jump straight to the conclusion
"They must all be absolute imbeciles."
then there has to be a reason why he was selected.

I assume there was a job specification written for the post, and he had
all the qualities and experience that was asked for (or nearest offer).

On the other hand, the group responsible might be high-fiving each other
in delight, at having wound up millions of people.

--
Sam Plusnet


Tony Cooper

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Aug 17, 2022, 6:10:27 PM8/17/22
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 20:14:34 +0100, Richard Heathfield
Is that distance required because excessive girth determines how far
away you must sit from the monitor?

My computer glasses were set for a distance of 16" (.4m).

I can understand why you would sit so far away from the monitor if you
have a huge monitor that is, say 60" (1.5m) wide, but my primary
monitor (I have two) is only 20" (.5m) wide and that's considered
large for a computer monitor.

While I have a laptop, I rarely use it. The glasses are used when I
use my desktop (with a detached keyboard).

Richard Heathfield

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Aug 17, 2022, 6:21:37 PM8/17/22
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On 17/08/2022 11:10 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 20:14:34 +0100, Richard Heathfield
> <r...@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>>Why so far? External keyboard.
>
> Is that distance required because excessive girth determines how far
> away you must sit from the monitor?

I refer the Right Honourable Gentleman to the answer I gave a few
pixels ago.

Peter Moylan

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Aug 17, 2022, 9:29:13 PM8/17/22
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On 18/08/22 04:02, Tony Cooper wrote:

> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a
> decision that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about
> it.

When I first met that word, I thought it meant "stupid". I had to adjust
my thinking to make sense of it.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

Hibou

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Aug 18, 2022, 1:51:19 AM8/18/22
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Le 17/08/2022 à 19:02, Tony Cooper a écrit :
>
> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>
> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>
> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
> title.

It could be that those responsible are having a laugh - appointing a
man, and calling him 'Period Dignity Officer'. The fact that the man in
question once sold tobacco is another nice touch. If only his surname
were Leekie!

As to the expression 'no-brainer', I seem to hear it most often when
someone is urging us to adopt some position or other. I've always
assumed it meant, "Please don't think about this too much; you might
find reasons not to agree."

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 18, 2022, 2:06:54 AM8/18/22
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On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>
>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>> title.
>>
>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>> hit the caps lock key.
>
>
> It's right next to the A.

Not on my keyboard it isn't! (It's right next to the Q.)

> I used to do that all the time. I finally realized that I never wanted
> Caps Lock to be on, so I permanently disabled the key.

Likewise. For many years now my caps lock key (on successive computers)
has been a do-nothing key. PTD might find it useful to get a
technical-minded acquaintance to fix his keyboard so that he doesn't
accidentally have it on so often (except that maybe in his case it
isn't accidental).


--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

Silvano

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Aug 18, 2022, 3:43:51 AM8/18/22
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Tony Cooper hat am 18.08.2022 um 00:10 geschrieben:


> I can understand why you would sit so far away from the monitor if you
> have a huge monitor that is, say 60" (1.5m) wide, but my primary
> monitor (I have two) is only 20" (.5m) wide and that's considered
> large for a computer monitor.


First, I wish you manage to overcome your present sight problems.

Second, I have to tell you that a 20" monitor was large about 20 years ago.

Now I'm in front of a 23" monitor I bought in 2011. Even then it was not
the largest available, but I bought it because it has a pivot function,
as I spend over 90% of my computer time looking at texts, not at movies,
engineer diagrams or spreadsheets with lots of columns.

A question to those who can't see the usefulness of the pivot function:
why are most books and newspapers higher than wide? Newspapers even
increase this effect through the division in columns.

Silvano

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Aug 18, 2022, 3:45:30 AM8/18/22
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Athel Cornish-Bowden hat am 18.08.2022 um 08:06 geschrieben:
> On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>>> hit the caps lock key.
>>
>>
>> It's right next to the A.
>
> Not on my keyboard it isn't! (It's right next to the Q.)

Only because you have a French keyboard.

CDB

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Aug 18, 2022, 7:26:55 AM8/18/22
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On 8/17/2022 2:46 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>> Tony Cooper:

>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a
>>> decision that is so easy to make that you don't have to think
>>> about it.

>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:

>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html

No,
>>>
it couldn't. The sentence is:

>> | A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said |
>> giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in |
>> project management from both the private and public sectors."

>> In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose
>> him.

> I think you are ignoring the obvious lack of one particular
> qualification that people most involved might look for.

> This could lead to a discussion of the word "mansplaining".

Sin and error everywhere you look. I thought that Navratilova's "Have
we ever tried to explain to men how to shave or how to take care of
their prostate or whatever?!? This is absurd," was something of a
no-brainer.

No further comment needed; Ms N said it all.

Janet

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Aug 18, 2022, 8:18:20 AM8/18/22
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In article <iP-
cnbUfI5TQrmD_n...@giganews.com>, m...@vex.net
says...
>
> Tony Cooper:
> > The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
> > that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
> >
> > Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
> > decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>
> No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
>
> | A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
> | giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
> | project management from both the private and public sectors."
>
> In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.

Due to a new Scottish Law, every region in Scotland is
now compelled to provide free period products to all, at
multiple sources provided by every local council. This
follows an initiative in Dundee.

The job of "Period Dignity Manager" is publicising the
need and the service, and organising product distribution.
A task well within the capability of a man.

In his area (Dundee), he is working FOR and under an
established team led by four women.Before the new law,
Dundee operated a free period-product postal service for
years past. He's just the new boy.

https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/dundees-plan-tackle-
period-poverty-post

One of the benefits of appointing a man, is to better
inform and educate other men and boys about menstruation.

Janet in Scotland.

Janet

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Aug 18, 2022, 8:42:22 AM8/18/22
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In article <undqfhl2ktur4ek0s...@4ax.com>,
tonyco...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:28:29 +0000, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>
> >Tony Cooper:
> >> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
> >> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
> >>
> >> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
> >> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
> >>
> >> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
> >
> >No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
> >
> >| A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
> >| giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
> >| project management from both the private and public sectors."
> >
> >In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.
>
> I think you are ignoring the obvious lack of one particular
> qualification that people most involved might look for.

Wake up.

My babies were all delivered by male obstetricians who
knew what they were doing despite no personal experience
of pregnancy/giving birth . My gynaecologist is male. They
all did a great job despite not having wombs and
vaginas.My (famous) breast oncologist and surgeon saved my
life despite being a flat chested man. My skin-cancer
consultant (F) has never had skin cancer. My bowel-cancer
consultant (M) did not qualify by getting bowel cancer.

My husbands prostate cancer specialist nurse is female, so
was the radiologist who treated him, and so is is the
urology prostate cancer researcher he deals with. His eye
surgeon (M) doesn't wear glasses and hasn't got glaucoma.


If this news gives you palpitations, I recommend you
choose a cardiologist with a healthy heart. Less likely to
drop dead during your bypass op.


Janet

Tony Cooper

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Aug 18, 2022, 8:54:32 AM8/18/22
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I wasn't ragging on Grant's qualifications or ability to do the job.

It's the optics of the job title, and appointing a man for the job,
that started the flow in this thread.

Tony Cooper

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Aug 18, 2022, 9:07:26 AM8/18/22
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Evidently you have never needed marriage counseling as you did not
mention that your marriage counselor was a Catholic Priest.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 18, 2022, 9:26:07 AM8/18/22
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On 2022-08-18 12:42:14 +0000, Janet said:

Interesting that you say all this...
>
> My babies were all delivered by male obstetricians who
> knew what they were doing despite no personal experience
> of pregnancy/giving birth . My gynaecologist is male. They
> all did a great job despite not having wombs and
> vaginas.My (famous) breast oncologist and surgeon saved my
> life despite being a flat chested man. My skin-cancer
> consultant (F) has never had skin cancer. My bowel-cancer
> consultant (M) did not qualify by getting bowel cancer.
>
> My husbands prostate cancer specialist nurse is female, so
> was the radiologist who treated him, and so is is the
> urology prostate cancer researcher he deals with. His eye
> surgeon (M) doesn't wear glasses and hasn't got glaucoma.
>
>
> If this news gives you palpitations, I recommend you
> choose a cardiologist with a healthy heart. Less likely to
> drop dead during your bypass op.

... In general my wife agrees with you, without being intransigent
about it. When she was first in England she found it rather cold (can
you believe that?) and used to wear a hat with ties that covered part
of her face. When she went to the university health centre to register
with a doctor the receptionist said she was sorry, but only a male
doctor was available. She was quite surprised at that and said that it
was no problem. Since then, all of her general practitioners have been
men. She does, however, go to a woman gynaecologist.

Hibou

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Aug 18, 2022, 9:45:41 AM8/18/22
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Le 18/08/2022 à 13:42, Janet a écrit :
>
> Wake up.
>
> My babies were all delivered by male obstetricians who
> knew what they were doing despite no personal experience
> of pregnancy/giving birth . My gynaecologist is male. They
> all did a great job despite not having wombs and
> vaginas.My (famous) breast oncologist and surgeon saved my
> life despite being a flat chested man. My skin-cancer
> consultant (F) has never had skin cancer. My bowel-cancer
> consultant (M) did not qualify by getting bowel cancer.
>
> My husbands prostate cancer specialist nurse is female, so
> was the radiologist who treated him, and so is is the
> urology prostate cancer researcher he deals with. His eye
> surgeon (M) doesn't wear glasses and hasn't got glaucoma.
>
> If this news gives you palpitations, I recommend you
> choose a cardiologist with a healthy heart. Less likely to
> drop dead during your bypass op.

Well said!

Ken Blake

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Aug 18, 2022, 10:16:31 AM8/18/22
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 08:06:49 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>>> title.
>>>
>>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>>> hit the caps lock key.
>>
>>
>> It's right next to the A.
>
>Not on my keyboard it isn't! (It's right next to the Q.)


You're apparently using the French AZERTY layout. Since Tony is here
in the US, I assumed that, like me, he's using the QWERTY English
keyboard layout.

Peter T. Daniels

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SCREW YOU, Mister Irrelevant Insulter. Any capitals used are
intentional.

Some of you might consider a glance at sci.lang to see the
dual absurd attacks this person launched at Ruud overnight.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 18, 2022, 11:49:14 AM8/18/22
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On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> ... In general my wife agrees with you, without being intransigent
> about it. When she was first in England she found it rather cold (can
> you believe that?) and used to wear a hat with ties that covered part
> of her face. When she went to the university health centre to register
> with a doctor the receptionist said she was sorry, but only a male
> doctor was available. She was quite surprised at that and said that it
> was no problem.

Did her choice of extreme head-covering give the impression that
she was a Muslim woman? The receptionist's response strikes me
as especially, perhaps exceptionally, solicitous.

In France she might have been "cautioned."

Ruud Harmsen

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Thu, 18 Aug 2022 08:06:49 +0200: Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> scribeva:

>On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>>> title.
>>>
>>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>>> hit the caps lock key.
>>
>>
>> It's right next to the A.
>
>Not on my keyboard it isn't! (It's right next to the Q.)

You are using an Azert keyboard, like everybody in France and Belgium.

>> I used to do that all the time. I finally realized that I never wanted
>> Caps Lock to be on, so I permanently disabled the key.
>
>Likewise. For many years now my caps lock key (on successive computers)
>has been a do-nothing key. PTD might find it useful to get a
>technical-minded acquaintance to fix his keyboard so that he doesn't
>accidentally have it on so often (except that maybe in his case it
>isn't accidental).

--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

Ruud Harmsen

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Thu, 18 Aug 2022 08:38:14 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> scribeva:
Well, he doubted my English. Is that absurd? Not quite, I do sometimes
make mistakes. But not too often.

Peter T. Daniels

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Not at all in that case. But Athel is not good at reading comprehension
when it comes to discussions of language.

Mark Brader

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Tony Cooper:
> I wasn't ragging on Grant's qualifications or ability to do the job.
>
> It's the optics of the job title, and appointing a man for the job,
> that started the flow in this thread.

Yet you claimed to be discussing the term "no-brainer". That strikes
me as trollish behavior.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto "... pure English is de rigueur"
m...@vex.net -- Guardian Weekly

Tony Cooper

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:13:41 +0000, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>Tony Cooper:
>> I wasn't ragging on Grant's qualifications or ability to do the job.
>>
>> It's the optics of the job title, and appointing a man for the job,
>> that started the flow in this thread.
>
>Yet you claimed to be discussing the term "no-brainer". That strikes
>me as trollish behavior.

No, actually, that was just the lead-in to discussing the story.

You might say it was a troll, though, if you consider using click-bait
Subject title as an inducement to read a post. I'm not above that.

I'm sure you didn't miss the use of "ragging" and "flow", and consider
them to be trollishly bad wordplay, but I'm not above that, either.

lar3ryca

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When, in a discussion about keyboards, someone asks "Where would you
want your Caps Lock Key?", I answer, "On someone else's machine.'

Every keyboard I own has the Caps Lock key disabled, some physically,
some via a software setting.

--
Greek cows say "μ"

Sam Plusnet

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Aug 18, 2022, 5:32:45 PM8/18/22
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For comparison, I just measured my 'eye-to-monitor' distance as 60cm or
2ft in old money.
However this chair is on castors, & so the actual distance will vary
quite a bit.
The monitor is (IIRC) 25", but the people who specify monitor dimensions
are not Masons - so they are not measured on the square.
>
> I can understand why you would sit so far away from the monitor if you
> have a huge monitor that is, say 60" (1.5m) wide, but my primary
> monitor (I have two) is only 20" (.5m) wide and that's considered
> large for a computer monitor.
>
> While I have a laptop, I rarely use it. The glasses are used when I
> use my desktop (with a detached keyboard).

--
Sam Plusnet


Paul Wolff

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022, at 13:18:12, Janet posted:
>m...@vex.net
>> Tony Cooper:
>> > The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>> > that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>> >
>> > Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>> > decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>>>>>>https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>
>> No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
>>
>> | A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant said
>> | giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast experience in
>> | project management from both the private and public sectors."
>>
>> In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to choose him.
>
> Due to a new Scottish Law, every region in Scotland is
>now compelled to provide free period products to all, at
>multiple sources provided by every local council. This
>follows an initiative in Dundee.

That reads very strangely. In the latter years of my schooldays, every
pupil had a personal timetable adapted to the subjects being followed,
and we all had free periods, in which we were expected to do our prep.
Free period products would have been pens and pencils, ink, and exercise
books.
>
> The job of "Period Dignity Manager" is publicising the
>need and the service, and organising product distribution.
>A task well within the capability of a man.

Is it really the case that there's no better word than 'period'? It
makes me think of all those people who prefer passing to dying. Somehow,
language must be purged of any distasteful reality.
>
> In his area (Dundee), he is working FOR and under an
>established team led by four women.Before the new law,
>Dundee operated a free period-product postal service for
>years past. He's just the new boy.
>
>https://www.dundee.ac.uk/stories/dundees-plan-tackle-
>period-poverty-post
>
>One of the benefits of appointing a man, is to better
>inform and educate other men and boys about menstruation.
>
Oh yes, that's the word I was searching for.
--
Paul

CDB

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There's "courses", probably from the word meaning "run" (tu cursu Dea
menstruo metiens iter annuum) but maybe also the origin of "the curse".

Ken Blake

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I just measured it here--22 inches, or about 56 cm.

>However this chair is on castors, & so the actual distance will vary
>quite a bit.


Same here.

>The monitor is (IIRC) 25", but the people who specify monitor dimensions
>are not Masons - so they are not measured on the square.

There are measured in the direction that gives the biggest number--an
example of deceptive advertising.


>>
>> I can understand why you would sit so far away from the monitor if you
>> have a huge monitor that is, say 60" (1.5m) wide, but my primary
>> monitor (I have two) is only 20" (.5m) wide and that's considered
>> large for a computer monitor.


Two 24" monitors here.

I think they're getting close to being ten years old. One of these
days, they will die and I'll replace them with bigger ones (27"?
34"?), not because I want anything to be bigger, but so I can have
more on the screen.


>> While I have a laptop, I rarely use it.

Same with me; I never use mine anymore. I used to use it when I
traveled, but it was replaced by a netbook, then a tablet, and finally
with a smart phone--smaller and lighter and therefore easier to travel
with.


>>The glasses are used when I
>> use my desktop (with a detached keyboard).


I used to have a pair of glasses that I used only for my computer.
They were made for a distance somewhere between reading glasses and
distance glasses, Since I had my cataract surgery (4-5 years ago), I
no longer use them. My vision is fine at this distance.

Ken Blake

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Aug 19, 2022, 10:08:08 AM8/19/22
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It's easy to do it with software, so I've never done it any other way.

I have a couple of keyboards I've never used, that I keep as spares.
I've never done it with them, since I can't--disabling is done within
Windows. in the registry

I'm not a touch typist so I'm perhaps more likely to accidentally hit
caps lock than those who are,

Ken Blake

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Aug 19, 2022, 10:11:23 AM8/19/22
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On 19 Aug 2022 04:41:04 GMT, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
wrote:

>lar3ryca <la...@invalid.ca> writes:
>>Every keyboard I own has the Caps Lock key disabled, some physically,
>>some via a software setting.
>
> Mine's not simply disabled, but /repurposed/.
> To get "ä", I just pressed [Caps Lock] and then [A].
> "ß" is [Caps Lock], [S]. And so on.


Since it's a key I'm prone to hitting accidentally, it's not just that
I don't want to use caps lock; I don't want that key to do anything.

Quinn C

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* Peter T. Daniels:

> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:26:07 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
>> ... In general my wife agrees with you, without being intransigent
>> about it. When she was first in England she found it rather cold (can
>> you believe that?) and used to wear a hat with ties that covered part
>> of her face. When she went to the university health centre to register
>> with a doctor the receptionist said she was sorry, but only a male
>> doctor was available. She was quite surprised at that and said that it
>> was no problem.
>
> Did her choice of extreme head-covering give the impression that
> she was a Muslim woman? The receptionist's response strikes me
> as especially, perhaps exceptionally, solicitous.
>
> In France she might have been "cautioned."

[CW mention of genitalia]











I recently was afflicted with a UTI and had to see a doctor I didn't
know for an emergency appointment.

After the discussion of symptoms, the doctor, a man, announced he would
now examine my penis, and whether I wished a woman to be present for the
procedure. Excellent handling of gender, without even having talked
about it explicitly (I said it wasn't necessary).

At my gender clinic, when my doctor, also a man, did a breast exam, it
wasn't even a question; a woman was called into the room as a matter of
course.

--
Grab your lip gloss and your pepper spray, sweetheart. Your
date's here.
-- Keith Mars

Quinn C

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* Paul Wolff:
Ah, period is too vague, it has to be specified that it's a month! Sure,
that's much more explicit. Maybe in German, you would insist on using
"Monatsblutung".

I think you'll find those products most often under "female hygiene" in
this country. May or may not be next to "Papier hygiénique/Bathroom
Tissue".

--
There is no freedom for men unless there is freedom for women.
If women mustn't bring their will to the fore, why should men
be allowed to?
-- Hedwig Dohm (1876), my translation

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 19, 2022, 10:53:32 AM8/19/22
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On 2022-08-19 14:11:19 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On 19 Aug 2022 04:41:04 GMT, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> wrote:
>
>> lar3ryca <la...@invalid.ca> writes:
>>> Every keyboard I own has the Caps Lock key disabled, some
>>> physically,>>some via a software setting.
>>
>> Mine's not simply disabled, but /repurposed/.> To get "ä", I just
>> pressed [Caps Lock] and then [A].
>> "ß" is [Caps Lock], [S]. And so on.
>
I use the option (alt) key for that:

option-a gives á
option-e gives é (not really necessary, because as it's a French
keyboard it has an é key, but it's easier to do it the same as for áíóú)
option-n gives ñ
option-? gives ¿

etc.

> Since it's a key I'm prone to hitting accidentally, it's not just that
> I don't want to use caps lock; I don't want that key to do anything.


Tony Cooper

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 08:38:14 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 2:06:54 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> > I used to do that all the time. I finally realized that I never wanted
>> > Caps Lock to be on, so I permanently disabled the key.
>>
>> Likewise. For many years now my caps lock key (on successive computers)
>> has been a do-nothing key. PTD might find it useful to get a
>> technical-minded acquaintance to fix his keyboard so that he doesn't
>> accidentally have it on so often (except that maybe in his case it
>> isn't accidental).
>
>SCREW YOU, Mister Irrelevant Insulter. Any capitals used are
>intentional.

So are the asterisks used in Stephan Ram's posts.

The use of asterisks replacing letters, all caps, and addressing
someone as "Mister Irrelevant Insulter" are something one might expect
in one of those "Truth Books" that circulated in grade school, but not
here where the grown-ups are.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 11:17:35 AM8/19/22
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On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:14:40 AM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:

> I think you'll find those products most often under "female hygiene" in
> this country. May or may not be next to "Papier hygiénique/Bathroom
> Tissue".

AmE "feminine hygiene." Smoke on your pipe and put that in!

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 11:21:35 AM8/19/22
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On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:03:36 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:

> The use of asterisks replacing letters, all caps, and addressing
> someone as "Mister Irrelevant Insulter" are something one might expect
> in one of those "Truth Books" that circulated in grade school, but not
> here where the grown-ups are.

Must be a Hoosier thing. What s a "truth book"?

These don't seem to be the sort of thing that was circulating
among Indianoplace children:

https://bookauthority.org/books/best-truth-books

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Aug 19, 2022, 11:42:30 AM8/19/22
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 16:53:27 +0200
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> On 2022-08-19 14:11:19 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
> > On 19 Aug 2022 04:41:04 GMT, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> lar3ryca <la...@invalid.ca> writes:
> >>> Every keyboard I own has the Caps Lock key disabled, some
> >>> physically,>>some via a software setting.
> >>
> >> Mine's not simply disabled, but /repurposed/.> To get "ä", I just
> >> pressed [Caps Lock] and then [A].
> >> "ß" is [Caps Lock], [S]. And so on.
> >
> I use the option (alt) key for that:
>
> option-a gives á
> option-e gives é (not really necessary, because as it's a French
> keyboard it has an é key, but it's easier to do it the same as for áíóú)
> option-n gives ñ
> option-? gives ¿
>
> etc.
>

My (UK) AltGr key gives

AltGr- result
a (nothing)
e é
i í
o ó
u ú
n (opens (default?) file in notepad)
? / (same as without AltGr)

> > Since it's a key I'm prone to hitting accidentally, it's not just that
> > I don't want to use caps lock; I don't want that key to do anything.
>
>
> --
> Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.
>


--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Kerr-Mudd, John

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Aug 19, 2022, 11:47:34 AM8/19/22
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It's a real shame I only get to see PTD's bad side. Perhaps no-one
responds to all the interesting pearls of wisdom he posts, what a pity.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 11:51:23 AM8/19/22
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That happens to be a fact.

You condemn yourself by that very paragraph.

Why don't you have a glance at how I responded to that message?

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Aug 19, 2022, 12:24:10 PM8/19/22
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Perhaps I should have said that the keys I mentioned are not built into
the system; they're ones I added myself with Ukelele (Mac OS only, I
think, but similar tools exist on Windows).
If I use the default keyboard settings I get æê rather than áéíóú. æ
and œ are very occasionally useful. ê and î I don't need, because I
have a circumflex dead key. I don't have any use for º.

CDB

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Aug 19, 2022, 1:02:57 PM8/19/22
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On 8/19/2022 10:14 AM, Quinn C wrote:
> * Paul Wolff:
"Menstruate" is from "menstruus", monthly. Another word for
menstruation is "menses"; all are cognate to "moon".

'Menses: "monthly discharge of blood from the uterus," 1590s, from Latin
menses, plural of mensis "month" (see moon (n.).'

https://www.etymonline.com/word/menses

Quinn C

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* Peter T. Daniels:
Probably here too, and it was my mistake.

The website of my usual pharmacy uses "Intimate Care" for the category.
I wanted to check before I sent my last post, but their website is hard
to use. The other big chain uses "Feminine Hygiene".

--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)

Tony Cooper

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Aug 19, 2022, 1:33:55 PM8/19/22
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I'm sure they were not a Hoosier thing, but may have been called
something else elseplace. "Slam Books" is another term for them, but
wasn't used in Indianapolis.

They go back to as early as 1928 as this article will tell you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_book

Tony Cooper

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 13:02:47 -0400, CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/19/2022 10:14 AM, Quinn C wrote:
>> * Paul Wolff:
>>> Janet posted:
>>>> m...@vex.net
>>>>> Tony Cooper:
>
>>>>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a
>>>>>> decision that is so easy to make that you don't have to think
>>>>>> about it.
>
>>>>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to
>>>>>> mean a decision that was made without properly thinking about
>>>>>> it:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>No, it couldn't. The sentence is:
>
>>>>> | A spokesperson for the working group that employed Grant
>>>>> said | giving him the job "was a no-brainer with his vast
>>>>> experience in | project management from both the private and
>>>>> public sectors."
>
>>>>> In other words, he was well qualified, so it was obvious to
>>>>> choose him.
>

He was well qualified in the view of the spokesperson, but not
everyone agrees that he was the right choice because he's missing one
qualification that some say should have been considered.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 3:22:23 PM8/19/22
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On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 1:20:57 PM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:
> * Peter T. Daniels:
> > On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:14:40 AM UTC-4, Quinn C wrote:
> >
> >> I think you'll find those products most often under "female hygiene" in
> >> this country. May or may not be next to "Papier hygiénique/Bathroom
> >> Tissue".
> >
> > AmE "feminine hygiene." Smoke on your pipe and put that in!
> Probably here too, and it was my mistake.
>
> The website of my usual pharmacy uses "Intimate Care" for the category.
> I wanted to check before I sent my last post, but their website is hard
> to use. The other big chain uses "Feminine Hygiene".

Walmart keeps the toilet paper on the rear wall with the paper towels,
and the feminine hygiene products near the cosmetics, "pharmacy-
adjacent," but the bathroom stuff (shampoo, deodorant, dentifrices
[does anyone actually say "dentifrice"?],soaps, etc.) are in between.
I guess they're all "personal care items."

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 3:25:28 PM8/19/22
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Nope, that doesn't seem to have been a New York thang at all.

And don't try to tell me that New Brunswick is in the NYC Metro Area.
It ain't.

Interesting, "thang" isn't squiggled.

Tony Cooper

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 12:25:25 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
How about Yonkers? Part of the NYC Metro Area? Or the other
reference to Ardsley Middle School in Westchester County?

https://www.nymetroparents.com/article/TEEN-SLAM-BOOKS-What-do-the-pages-say-about-your-child-

It's always interesting, when you make an assumption based only on
what you have personally seen, to dig a little deeper.

I would have passed on this if you had just written that they were not
a thang in the school you attended.

The cruelty of those slam books is well described in:
http://denverpost.com/2010/12/16/before-facebook-there-was-a-slam-book/

It is written by a "writer in New York", but does not say where he
went to school in the 1950s.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 19, 2022, 5:19:01 PM8/19/22
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Ardsley isn't in Yonkers. But what does something from 2005
have to do with the 1950s?

> https://www.nymetroparents.com/article/TEEN-SLAM-BOOKS-What-do-the-pages-say-about-your-child-
>
> It's always interesting, when you make an assumption based only on
> what you have personally seen, to dig a little deeper.
>
> I would have passed on this if you had just written that they were not
> a thang in the school you attended.

Liar. You are consumed with hate.

See below.

> The cruelty of those slam books is well described in:
> http://denverpost.com/2010/12/16/before-facebook-there-was-a-slam-book/
>
> It is written by a "writer in New York", but does not say where he
> went to school in the 1950s.

What makes you think he went to school anywhere near New York,
asshole?

I realize that when you were a little boy, no one would have talked
to you, but I knew plenty of people who went to other schools,
including public schools, and such a custom would have been
mentioned. If it was a thing in my time, why wouldn't it have been
found in my school or my friends' and relatives' schools?

Why the FUCK do you have this pathological need to try to find
ANYTHING, no matter how irrelevant or off-topic, that you think
will somehow refute something I have written -- and NEVER DOES?
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

And bullying. Doubtless the author of those "truth books"
that lied about his classmates.

Tony Cooper

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 14:18:58 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
The article mentioned *both* Yonkers *and* Ardsley. Hence the use
"the other reference".

> But what does something from 2005
>have to do with the 1950s?

Just shows some things don't change.

>
>> https://www.nymetroparents.com/article/TEEN-SLAM-BOOKS-What-do-the-pages-say-about-your-child-
>>
>> It's always interesting, when you make an assumption based only on
>> what you have personally seen, to dig a little deeper.
>>
>> I would have passed on this if you had just written that they were not
>> a thang in the school you attended.
>
>Liar. You are consumed with hate.
>
>See below.
>
>> The cruelty of those slam books is well described in:
>> http://denverpost.com/2010/12/16/before-facebook-there-was-a-slam-book/
>>
>> It is written by a "writer in New York", but does not say where he
>> went to school in the 1950s.
>
>What makes you think he went to school anywhere near New York,
>asshole?
>
It was cited as an example of the cruelty, not of a NY experience.

>I realize that when you were a little boy, no one would have talked
>to you, but I knew plenty of people who went to other schools,
>including public schools, and such a custom would have been
>mentioned. If it was a thing in my time, why wouldn't it have been
>found in my school or my friends' and relatives' schools?

Probably was, but because your personality disorder was already so
developed that you were already KF'd.

Anders D. Nygaard

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No need to bother, John. It contained the gratuitous slur "Indianoplace"

/Anders, Denmark

Tony Cooper

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Aug 19, 2022, 7:52:26 PM8/19/22
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It's intended as a slur, but it doesn't work as an insult. That's
what *we* called it growing up there. It's kinda comfy and warm to
hear it called that.

The other nickname was "Naptown".

Peter Moylan

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How do bibles qualify as truth books?

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lar3ryca

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I've done it both ways. Much to my surprise, I discovered that I like
the physical disabling better. On the keyboard I am using right now, if
I press the caps lock key by mistake, It doesn't move at all, so I know
I have to re-key whatever it was I was trying to type.

> I have a couple of keyboards I've never used, that I keep as spares.
> I've never done it with them, since I can't--disabling is done within
> Windows. in the registry
>
> I'm not a touch typist so I'm perhaps more likely to accidentally hit
> caps lock than those who are,


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Peter T. Daniels

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On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 7:09:09 PM UTC-4, Anders D. Nygaard wrote:
> Den 19-08-2022 kl. 17:51 skrev Peter T. Daniels:
> > On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:47:34 AM UTC-4, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 11:03:29 -0400

> >> It's a real shame I only get to see PTD's bad side. Perhaps no-one
> >> responds to all the interesting pearls of wisdom he posts, what a pity.
> > That happens to be a fact.
> > You condemn yourself by that very paragraph.
> > Why don't you have a glance at how I responded to that message?
>
> No need to bother, John. It contained the gratuitous slur "Indianoplace"

I guess you've never been to Chicago. That's what the capital
of Indiana is called there. And if you visit it, you find out why.

(And Mudd's name is not "John.")

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 20, 2022, 9:02:36 AM8/20/22
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No idea. I googled the term and after a bunch of books that
had "truth" in the title (mostly about personal relationships)
came that link to a list of the 100 best "truth books," so that's
apparently how the phrase is used.

Ken Blake

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Aug 20, 2022, 9:54:08 AM8/20/22
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Isn't it often called "Indi" these days?

Tony Cooper

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Aug 20, 2022, 10:21:09 AM8/20/22
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 06:54:04 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
It's seen as "Indy" in reportage of the Indianapolis 500 (automobile)
race and the type of cars that race in that circuit. You might read
or hear about "Indy car racing" or the "Indy 500".

Whether or not it's used in other references is something I wouldn't
know. I haven't lived there since 1969.

I was born there, and lived there until 1956. I was transferred to
Indianapolis from Chicago in 1968, but was promoted and brought back
to the Chicago area in 1969.

Like many people, I couldn't wait to get out of my home town when I
left for college. In my year back there, though, I was quite happy
living there. The only reason I left again was related to my
employment.

Ken Blake

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Aug 20, 2022, 10:33:58 AM8/20/22
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 10:21:04 -0400, Tony Cooper
My grandson lived in NW Indiana for a couple of years. He moved to
Pennsylvania a year or two ago, but he still has friends who live in
Indianapolis, and he goes to visit them now and then. When he goes, he
says he's going to Indy.

Tony Cooper

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On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 07:33:54 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
Yeah, OK. I just haven't come across it.

S K

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Does the qualifier "NW" applied to Indiana mean anything except geographically?

Ken Blake

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Aug 20, 2022, 4:34:49 PM8/20/22
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2022 10:42:11 -0400, Tony Cooper
OK. I never did either, until I heard it from him.

Bill Day

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Aug 28, 2022, 9:59:25 AM8/28/22
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 08:06:49 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-08-17 19:16:07 +0000, Ken Blake said:
>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:04:37 -0400, Tony Cooper
>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 14:02:55 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>> <tonyco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>>>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>>>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>>>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>>>> title.
>>>
>>> Note...no emphasis was intended by the capitalization of the last
>>> characters in the word in the Subject line. I must have inadvertantly
>>> hit the caps lock key.
>>
>>
>> It's right next to the A.
>
>Not on my keyboard it isn't! (It's right next to the Q.)
>
>> I used to do that all the time. I finally realized that I never wanted
>> Caps Lock to be on, so I permanently disabled the key.
>
>Likewise. For many years now my caps lock key (on successive computers)
>has been a do-nothing key. PTD might find it useful to get a
>technical-minded acquaintance to fix his keyboard so that he doesn't
>accidentally have it on so often (except that maybe in his case it
>isn't accidental).
FYI... I have used a lttle program to control the capslock and other
keys for years. ( on a PC only)

It's powerful, but has a number of settings. It might be useful for
some.

https://firstcap.software.informer.com/3.2/

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/FirstCap.shtml

https://download.cnet.com/FirstCap/3000-2079_4-10574486.html

Bill Day

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Aug 28, 2022, 10:03:26 AM8/28/22
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They certainly were in Kansas in the 1950s in middle school. Using
them (briefly) I found that I really didn't enjoy reading what all my
school mates thought of each other.

Ken Blake

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 09:58:42 -0400, Bill Day <ext...@verizon.net>
wrote:
There are many ways to do this. See
https://www.raymond.cc/blog/disable-broken-caps-lock/

Sharpkeys (https://www.randyrants.com/2011/12/sharpkeys_35/) isn't
mentioned there, but it's what I use. It's easy to use, and I'm happy
with it. I don't think there's a big difference between any of them.

bruce bowser

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Aug 28, 2022, 2:11:29 PM8/28/22
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That raises the question (all the more) what exactly you expected them to say.

Snidely

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Hibou scribbled something on Wednesday the 8/17/2022:
> Le 17/08/2022 à 19:02, Tony Cooper a écrit :
>>
>> The term "no-brainer" is used (in the US, at least) to mean a decision
>> that is so easy to make that you don't have to think about it.
>>
>> Interestingly, in this article, it could also be taken to mean a
>> decision that was made without properly thinking about it:
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/uk/scotland-period-dignity-scli-intl-wellness-gbr/index.html
>>
>> I certainly wouldn't want to be critical of our Scottish friends, but
>> I do wonder if "Period Dignity Officer" is the best choice for a job
>> title.
>
> It could be that those responsible are having a laugh - appointing a man, and
> calling him 'Period Dignity Officer'. The fact that the man in question once
> sold tobacco is another nice touch. If only his surname were Leekie!
>
> As to the expression 'no-brainer', I seem to hear it most often when someone
> is urging us to adopt some position or other. I've always assumed it meant,
> "Please don't think about this too much; you might find reasons not to
> agree."

It can mean that when used sarcastically, but in the US the usual
meaning is that the logic is so obvious that you don't need a 3-year
study grant to come to agreement.

/dps

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